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Philip Tubman BA MSc Cert Ed CMALT e-Learning Consultant Lancaster University, UK m-Learning and the iPhone
What do e-Learning consultants do? I manage e-learning at university 2 main categories Providing access to university information Where am I? (Campus Maps) What course am I on? Can I copy my timetable into my iPhone calendar? Departmental announcements (e.g. lecturer sick) What library books do I have on loan? Can I get my email? Providing access to resources Can I access my lecture notes? Multimedia resources What about recording my own lectures
How can the iPhone help? 3 Case Studies Mobile video sharing Geo-sensitive learning resources Personalised Learning Environment (PLE)
Mobile Video Sharing Group of students studying Nursing Part of course is a placement at regional hospitals Each student has a different experience on placement  This means witnessing different operations and procedures So, the overall experience of the class is rich, but the experience of individual students will vary How can we ensure a rich experience for every student?
Mobile Video Sharing Placement A Placement B Placement C
Geo-Sensitive ‘Learning Objects’ Group of students studying Geology Part of the course is a fieldtrip to the beach Students do not seem to get much out of the fieldtrip: It is difficult to make useful notes on the beach;  It is hard to take books down to the beach; It is hard to give a lecture on the beach (being heard etc.); It is hard to spend quality time with each student; How can we improve the learning process?
Geo-Sensitive ‘Learning Objects’ An App is created with maps, markers and links to further resources When the student steps into the GPS ‘hot zone’, further information and multimedia learning objects pop up These learning objects could be animations, videos, audio, quizzes, images or text Students can self-guide around the fieldtrip Learning is ‘experiential’ Lecturer has time for focussed questions
Personalised Learning Environment I am a student doing an undergraduate degree in Philosophy I can access lecture notes and discussions on my iPhone I get internet access on my iPhone I can record the lectures with my iPhone I have RSS feeds from variety of journals I can download other Apps Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy Wikipaedia TED talks... I can search iTunes U for other Philosophy podcasts I can read e-books I can connect with others on the course e.g. Facebook, Twitter I can keep all this information in the palm of my hand

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M Learning and the iPhone

  • 1. Philip Tubman BA MSc Cert Ed CMALT e-Learning Consultant Lancaster University, UK m-Learning and the iPhone
  • 2. What do e-Learning consultants do? I manage e-learning at university 2 main categories Providing access to university information Where am I? (Campus Maps) What course am I on? Can I copy my timetable into my iPhone calendar? Departmental announcements (e.g. lecturer sick) What library books do I have on loan? Can I get my email? Providing access to resources Can I access my lecture notes? Multimedia resources What about recording my own lectures
  • 3. How can the iPhone help? 3 Case Studies Mobile video sharing Geo-sensitive learning resources Personalised Learning Environment (PLE)
  • 4. Mobile Video Sharing Group of students studying Nursing Part of course is a placement at regional hospitals Each student has a different experience on placement This means witnessing different operations and procedures So, the overall experience of the class is rich, but the experience of individual students will vary How can we ensure a rich experience for every student?
  • 5. Mobile Video Sharing Placement A Placement B Placement C
  • 6. Geo-Sensitive ‘Learning Objects’ Group of students studying Geology Part of the course is a fieldtrip to the beach Students do not seem to get much out of the fieldtrip: It is difficult to make useful notes on the beach; It is hard to take books down to the beach; It is hard to give a lecture on the beach (being heard etc.); It is hard to spend quality time with each student; How can we improve the learning process?
  • 7. Geo-Sensitive ‘Learning Objects’ An App is created with maps, markers and links to further resources When the student steps into the GPS ‘hot zone’, further information and multimedia learning objects pop up These learning objects could be animations, videos, audio, quizzes, images or text Students can self-guide around the fieldtrip Learning is ‘experiential’ Lecturer has time for focussed questions
  • 8. Personalised Learning Environment I am a student doing an undergraduate degree in Philosophy I can access lecture notes and discussions on my iPhone I get internet access on my iPhone I can record the lectures with my iPhone I have RSS feeds from variety of journals I can download other Apps Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy Wikipaedia TED talks... I can search iTunes U for other Philosophy podcasts I can read e-books I can connect with others on the course e.g. Facebook, Twitter I can keep all this information in the palm of my hand

Notas do Editor

  1. I manage e-learning for Lancaster University. Increasingly, this also means supporting learning on mobile platforms. Learning on mobile devices adds another dimension to e-learning – that of geo-sensitivity and portability, which we will look at more later.