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BCM112 Week 10
Tanja Dreher
tanjad@uow.edu.au

#MENCALLMETHINGS:
IDENTITY AND DIFFERENCE
ONLINE
Women online 1997   (Spender 1997)

‘GIRLS
NEED
MODEMS’      ‘A virtual reality, in which
             communication,
             relationships, community
             and cooperation are
             fostered, has to be seen to
             provide opportunities for
             women’s talents’
Women online 1997    (Spender 1997)

‘GIRLS
NEED        Women under-represented
MODEMS’        in computer science training
              Lack of women in decision-
               making capacities
              Harassment and abuse,
               flaming
              Risk assessment
              Macho culture
Women online 2012


 High School education in the 21st century

 BCM112 : blogging, tweeting, publishing and
  interacting

 Social media

 Computer Science @ UOW?
Gender online
Gender gap?
Feminism online?
Misogyny?
Technological determinism?
Women are from Pinterest, Men are from Dartitup
http://thediagonal.com/2012/04/16/the-gender-gap-online/
Gender Gap: Wikipedia
http://news.discovery.com/tech/is-there-a-gender-gap-online.html
Who are the most influential
people online?
The 50 Most Important People on the Web
http://www.pcworld.com/article/129301/the_50_most_important_people_on_the_web.ht
ml
The 50 Most Important People on the Web
http://www.pcworld.com/article/129301/the_50_most_important_people_on_the_web.ht
ml




1 in 10 are women

First woman listed is
#9, Marissa Meyer
The Top 10 Most Influential
People Online
http://articles.businessi
nsider.com/2011-03-
04/tech/29996072_1_lar
ry-page-mark-
zuckerberg-apple-
products




Business Insider: 1
Woman in the Top Ten
(#5 Ariana Huffington
of HuffingtonPost.com)
Debating misogyny online
Misogyny:
‘the hatred of women’
‘a great dislike of women’
#mencallmethings




                   Twitter hashtag and
                   online conversation
                   beginning November 2011
#mencallmethings
#mencallmethings


 http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3659712

 htmlhttp://meanjin.com.au/blog/post/men-
  call-me-things/

 http://www.theage.com.au/technology/techn
  ology-news/trollattack-campaign-goes-viral-
  20111108-1n4j4.html
Internet Misogyny, Trolls
and Gendered Comment Abuse

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8rr5Tq6
 MBA

 By ThosePeskyDames
   http://www.youtube.com/user/ThosePeskyDames
‘Poisoning the well of our
 discourse?’
                                                        In the online edition of
                                                        Melbourne-based
                                                        publication King's
                                                        Tribune last month,
                                                        editors Jane and Justin
                                                        Shaw came to a radical
                                                        decision. They resolved -
                                                        after a few months of
                                                        earnest consideration
                                                        was capped by one post
                                                        of anonymous,
                                                        misogynist bilge too
                                                        many - to turn
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-
culture/who-are-these-haters-that-poison-the-well-of-   comments on their
our-discourse-20120411-1ws5c.html                       website ''off'’.
What Is 'Trolling'?

   Answer: Internet 'trolling' is the anti-social act of
   causing of interpersonal conflict and shock-value
   controversy online.

   Named for the wicked troll creatures of children's
   tales, trolling is purposely sowing hatred, bigotry,
   racism, misogyny, or just simple bickering between
   others. Trolls themselves are emotionally-immature
   users who thrive in any environment where they are
   allowed to make public comments, like blog sites,
   news sites, discussion forums, and game chat.

http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/netiquetteonlineculture/f/What-Is-Trolling.htm
Trolling


 Anonymity
 Open forums and comments
 Chilling effect?
 Polarising debates?
 Extremes rather than middle ground?
Poisoning our discourse?
(Stafford 2012)

 More and more bloggers disabling comments

 ‘a minority is having a disproportionate influence
  on both the tone and direction of the print and
  electronic media’

 ‘Mostly, [anonymity] just allows people to
  indulge their worst tendencies, not only towards
  individuals but entire social groups’
Sexual violence online

 Facebook bans pro-rape pages,
  kicking and screaming
   http://gawker.com/5858000/face
     book-removes-pro+rape-pages-      Compared to:
     kicking-and-screaming               Attempts to ban
                                          images of
                                          breastfeeding on
 ‘It took Change.org two                 facebook
  months, 186K signatures and a
  furious Twitter campaign to get        Debate on banning
  pro-rape pages removed from             the cover of Nirvana’s
  Facebook.’                              ‘Nevermind’ on
                                          facebook
   http://www.zdnet.com/blog/viol
     etblue/facebook-finally-
     removes-its-pro-rape-pages/788
Hate mail is not just for
women …

 ‘pro-feminist’ men
   Eg. Dr Michael Flood
   UOW Sociology
   Receives hate mail and threats of violence for his
    criticism of some men’s groups
Gender and Media

                These issues are not only
                   online …

                    Kyle Sandilands’ ‘fat slag’
                     remarks
                       http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012
                        -03-27/sandilands-ruling-
                        released/3914886?section=enterta
                        inment


                    2JJJ first ever ‘Hottest 100 of
                     all time’
                       http://hoydenabouttown.com/200
                        90630.5557/alternative-youth-
                        music-station-thinks-theres-no-
                        alternative-to-being-a-bloke/
Community regulation / self-
regulation
Stafford (2012)


 ‘genuine transparency of identity, a much
 tougher line on personal abuse and a greater
 weighting towards comments that actually
 expand discussion’
Community regulation / self-
regulation

 Balancing robust debate with respect and
  responsibility
 Impasse on regulation and proactive
  interventions

 What will you contribute?
RECAP: Women online 1997
(Spender 1997)


‘GIRLS            Women under-represented
NEED                 in computer science training
MODEMS’             Lack of women in decision-
                     making capacities
                    Harassment and abuse,
                     flaming
                    Risk assessment
                    Macho culture
The feminist blogosphere

 Settle Petal
   http://settlepetal.org.au/
 Clementine Ford
   http://clementineford.tumblr.com/
 Nina Funnell
   http://www.mamamia.com.au/author/nina-funnell-2-
    2-2-2/
 Those Pesky Dames
   http://www.youtube.com/user/ThosePeskyDames
 Shakesville
   http://www.shakesville.com/
Tanja Dreher
tanjad@uow.edu.au


THANKYOU!

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#mencallmethings: identity and difference online

  • 1. BCM112 Week 10 Tanja Dreher tanjad@uow.edu.au #MENCALLMETHINGS: IDENTITY AND DIFFERENCE ONLINE
  • 2. Women online 1997 (Spender 1997) ‘GIRLS NEED MODEMS’ ‘A virtual reality, in which communication, relationships, community and cooperation are fostered, has to be seen to provide opportunities for women’s talents’
  • 3. Women online 1997 (Spender 1997) ‘GIRLS NEED  Women under-represented MODEMS’ in computer science training  Lack of women in decision- making capacities  Harassment and abuse, flaming  Risk assessment  Macho culture
  • 4. Women online 2012  High School education in the 21st century  BCM112 : blogging, tweeting, publishing and interacting  Social media  Computer Science @ UOW?
  • 5. Gender online Gender gap? Feminism online? Misogyny? Technological determinism?
  • 6. Women are from Pinterest, Men are from Dartitup http://thediagonal.com/2012/04/16/the-gender-gap-online/
  • 8. Who are the most influential people online?
  • 9. The 50 Most Important People on the Web http://www.pcworld.com/article/129301/the_50_most_important_people_on_the_web.ht ml
  • 10. The 50 Most Important People on the Web http://www.pcworld.com/article/129301/the_50_most_important_people_on_the_web.ht ml 1 in 10 are women First woman listed is #9, Marissa Meyer
  • 11. The Top 10 Most Influential People Online http://articles.businessi nsider.com/2011-03- 04/tech/29996072_1_lar ry-page-mark- zuckerberg-apple- products Business Insider: 1 Woman in the Top Ten (#5 Ariana Huffington of HuffingtonPost.com)
  • 12.
  • 14. Misogyny: ‘the hatred of women’ ‘a great dislike of women’
  • 15. #mencallmethings Twitter hashtag and online conversation beginning November 2011
  • 17. #mencallmethings  http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3659712  htmlhttp://meanjin.com.au/blog/post/men- call-me-things/  http://www.theage.com.au/technology/techn ology-news/trollattack-campaign-goes-viral- 20111108-1n4j4.html
  • 18. Internet Misogyny, Trolls and Gendered Comment Abuse  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8rr5Tq6 MBA  By ThosePeskyDames  http://www.youtube.com/user/ThosePeskyDames
  • 19. ‘Poisoning the well of our discourse?’ In the online edition of Melbourne-based publication King's Tribune last month, editors Jane and Justin Shaw came to a radical decision. They resolved - after a few months of earnest consideration was capped by one post of anonymous, misogynist bilge too many - to turn http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and- culture/who-are-these-haters-that-poison-the-well-of- comments on their our-discourse-20120411-1ws5c.html website ''off'’.
  • 20. What Is 'Trolling'? Answer: Internet 'trolling' is the anti-social act of causing of interpersonal conflict and shock-value controversy online. Named for the wicked troll creatures of children's tales, trolling is purposely sowing hatred, bigotry, racism, misogyny, or just simple bickering between others. Trolls themselves are emotionally-immature users who thrive in any environment where they are allowed to make public comments, like blog sites, news sites, discussion forums, and game chat. http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/netiquetteonlineculture/f/What-Is-Trolling.htm
  • 21. Trolling  Anonymity  Open forums and comments  Chilling effect?  Polarising debates?  Extremes rather than middle ground?
  • 22. Poisoning our discourse? (Stafford 2012)  More and more bloggers disabling comments  ‘a minority is having a disproportionate influence on both the tone and direction of the print and electronic media’  ‘Mostly, [anonymity] just allows people to indulge their worst tendencies, not only towards individuals but entire social groups’
  • 23. Sexual violence online  Facebook bans pro-rape pages, kicking and screaming  http://gawker.com/5858000/face book-removes-pro+rape-pages-  Compared to: kicking-and-screaming  Attempts to ban images of breastfeeding on  ‘It took Change.org two facebook months, 186K signatures and a furious Twitter campaign to get  Debate on banning pro-rape pages removed from the cover of Nirvana’s Facebook.’ ‘Nevermind’ on facebook  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/viol etblue/facebook-finally- removes-its-pro-rape-pages/788
  • 24. Hate mail is not just for women …  ‘pro-feminist’ men  Eg. Dr Michael Flood  UOW Sociology  Receives hate mail and threats of violence for his criticism of some men’s groups
  • 25. Gender and Media  These issues are not only online …  Kyle Sandilands’ ‘fat slag’ remarks  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012 -03-27/sandilands-ruling- released/3914886?section=enterta inment  2JJJ first ever ‘Hottest 100 of all time’  http://hoydenabouttown.com/200 90630.5557/alternative-youth- music-station-thinks-theres-no- alternative-to-being-a-bloke/
  • 26. Community regulation / self- regulation
  • 27. Stafford (2012) ‘genuine transparency of identity, a much tougher line on personal abuse and a greater weighting towards comments that actually expand discussion’
  • 28. Community regulation / self- regulation  Balancing robust debate with respect and responsibility  Impasse on regulation and proactive interventions  What will you contribute?
  • 29. RECAP: Women online 1997 (Spender 1997) ‘GIRLS  Women under-represented NEED in computer science training MODEMS’  Lack of women in decision- making capacities  Harassment and abuse, flaming  Risk assessment  Macho culture
  • 30. The feminist blogosphere  Settle Petal  http://settlepetal.org.au/  Clementine Ford  http://clementineford.tumblr.com/  Nina Funnell  http://www.mamamia.com.au/author/nina-funnell-2- 2-2-2/  Those Pesky Dames  http://www.youtube.com/user/ThosePeskyDames  Shakesville  http://www.shakesville.com/