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ISSUE 78 SPRING 2015
REPRINT 00310
BY ART KLEINER
The Thought Leader
Interview: Ellen Langer
A pioneer in mindfulness research says that
companies can promote innovation and their own
rejuvenation by setting the right context.
THOUGHT LEADER
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uppose you’re confined to a
nursing home. You’re elder-
ly, you’ve lost much of your
mobility, and your faculties are dete-
riorating. Along comes a Harvard
University social psychology profes-
sor named Ellen Langer who takes
you away on a retreat, where every-
thing is transformed into the way it
looked and felt when you were 25.
Radios with vacuum tubes play
rockabilly and Perry Como, a hard-
cover copy of Ian Fleming’s Goldfin-
ger sits on a Danish modern coffee
table (the movie won’t be released
for several years yet), the clothing is
au courant for 1959, and the conver-
sation covers recent events like Fidel
Castro’s invasion of Havana. The
staff treat you like you’re in the
prime of physical health, making
you carry your own suitcases up-
stairs even if you haven’t recently
lifted anything nearly that heavy.
You know, at some level, that this is
all a fictional re-creation. But as it
comes alive around you, you find
yourself paying attention to your
environment in ways you haven’t
done in years.
You wouldn’t expect five days in
a retreat like this to have much ef-
fect. But in the “counterclockwise”
study, which Langer conducted in
1981 and named after the way it
seemed to reverse the effects of time,
the results were remarkable. At the
end of the retreat, members of the
group showed demonstrable im-
provement, on average, in objective
tests of memory, height, weight gain,
posture, vision, and hearing. They
even looked noticeably younger.
To Langer, most people are
much more capable than they think
they are. The way they think holds
back their capabilities. But when a
context forces people out of their in-
grained, self-imposed limits (“I am
old”), it makes them mindful. They
have to approach the world freshly,
with a beginner’s mind, in a way that
has an enormous positive effect.
Langer, who is 67 and the first wom-
an to gain tenure in Harvard’s psy-
chology department, has conducted
dozens of studies of changed con-
text—involving such diverse situa-
tions as aging, recovery from disease,
individual creativity, organizational
innovation, the management of dis-
abilities, and addiction. And they all
share a theme: Cultivated mindful-
ness can change your life.
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The Thought Leader Interview:
Ellen Langer
A pioneer in mindfulness research says that companies can promote
innovation and their own rejuvenation by setting the right context.
PhotographbyBryceVickmark
BY ART KLEINER
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As many business leaders know,
mindfulness is gathering momen-
tum as a management practice.
Conferences such as Wisdom 2.0,
and companies such as Google, are
making a clear case that more delib-
erate awareness leads to stronger
performance and better decision
making. Often, this improvement is
linked to meditation practice. But
other forms of mindfulness are also
prominent in the business world to-
day, including the simple concept of
“being here now”—holding an open
frame of mind, avoiding the com-
placent arrogance that comes from
the “illusion of certainty,” as Langer
calls it. In his October 2014 profile
of Langer for the New York Times
Magazine, writer Bruce Grierson
described her form of mindfulness
as “noticing moment-to-moment
changes around you, from the dif-
ferences in the face of your spouse
across the breakfast table to the vari-
ability of your asthma symptoms.”
This approach runs counter, of
course, to the highly focused, take-
no-prisoners approach to leadership
prevalent in many companies today.
The executive’s attention is sup-
posed to be streamlined and free of
distractions so that he or she can pay
attention only to what is important.
But in practice, that means tackling
most problems as rapidly and mind-
lessly as possible, just to get them
out of the way. Langer argues that
distractions, when approached with
the right frame of mind, are sources
of opportunity.
Langer recently spoke with
strategy+business in her office in
Cambridge, Mass., about the theory
and practice of mindfulness in busi-
ness. The occasion was the new 25th-
anniversary edition of her first book
on the subject: Mindfulness (Da Capo
Press, 2014). In both her classroom
and her consultations, Langer is
known for her cheerfully blunt insis-
tence on two basic premises: First,
inattention is the source of most (or
all) problems faced by the world’s
leaders today. Second, an organiza-
tion that provides a context that en-
ables people to be mindful on the
job will reap the benefits of innova-
tion and effectiveness.
S+B: The counterclockwise study
is a remarkable story. But that
anachronistic world lasted for only
a week. Then they all returned to
the real world. What is this story
really telling us?
LANGER: The purpose of that ex-
periment was not to set up an artifi-
cial environment and show how
it influenced behavior. The major
point is the power of possibility. The
people in the experiment cured
themselves; we just provided a pla-
cebo, a catalyst for change. In other
words, all the limits that people as-
sume to be real—limits on vitality,
creativity, innovation, and even
health—are often of our own mak-
ing. Through mindful interven-
tions, they can be reversed.
One of the basic principles of so-
cial psychology is that behavior is
context-dependent. This runs coun-
ter to the personality theory that
people associate with psychology,
which says that everything you do is
a function of who you are inside, and
if you change your personality, you
can change your life. In social psy-
chology, you’re not the master of
your fate. The context is the master.
So if you want to gain real con-
trol over your life, the first step is to
ask who controls the context. Then
find ways to generate the kind of
context that will help you do the
things you want to do. By being
aware of the context, and making
more mindful choices about it, you
can become the master of your fate
even in a context-dependent world.
In the counterclockwise study,
we improved memory and strength.
That was good. But the most excit-
ing aspect was that we improved
people’s vision and hearing. If you
ask most people, “Can eyesight im-
prove?” they say no. When you show
them it can, their minds open up to
other possibilities.
We’ve done other studies of eye-
sight improvement. In one study we
reversed the Snellen eye chart. This is
the familiar eye chart in every op-
tometrist’s office, where the letters
get smaller as you look down. But we
made the letters get progressively
larger. This sent the message that
“you will find it easier to see as you go
along.” People could see what they
couldn’t see before. By changing
people’s expectations of what they
would see, we improved their vision.
S+B: Does it help to draw the
patient’s attention to the fact that
you reversed the type sizes?
“In social psychology, you’re not the
master of your fate. The context is
the master. To gain control over your
life, ask who controls the context.”
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LANGER: Yes, it does. The essence
of being mindful is noticing change.
The Snellen eye chart is supposed
to provide an absolute measurement
of your vision—a number like
20/40. But you’re in an artificial,
high-stress environment, looking at
a card with tiny type. It’s bizarre to
think that number would be the
same the next morning, when you’re
driving around hungry looking for a
restaurant. If you’re aware of these
differences, your vision can improve.
We see the same thing in re-
covery from illness. When people
are told they have a chronic illness,
they assume the diagnosis is abso-
lute. They stop paying attention to
their own symptoms. If they were
conditioned to pay attention, they’d
notice that the symptoms vary.
Sometimes they’re greater, some-
times they’re less, sometimes they
don’t even exist. Then they could
start to ask, “Why are these differ-
ences occurring?” Even if you don’t
find the answer, the research we’ve
done on mindfulness over the years
shows that just paying attention to
variability is good for your health.
My life’s work is to make the
link between the way you pay atten-
tion and your vitality more obvious.
You don’t need a pill to improve;
you can improve by changing the
way you view your circumstances.
For instance, we have studied the
relationship between people’s stereo-
types of themselves and their perfor-
mance. In one experiment, we tested
a group of Asian women in math.
The research consistently shows
that if they are primed for their gen-
der—given cues that remind them
that they’re women—they don’t
do as well as when the experiment
draws their attention to the fact that
they’re Asian. The test itself is the
same. There are similar findings for
every race, even for stereotypes that
they consciously and rightfully re-
ject. Black men score much higher
on the same test when they are told
it’s a test of athletic ability than
when they’re told it’s a test of intel-
lect. All of us are mindlessly prone
to believe stereotypes of ourselves
unless we question them.
Embracing Mistakes
S+B: How does this apply to
business?
LANGER: In business, there is a ten-
dency to seek absolutes. They can be
metrics, like the Snellen eye chart, or
prejudices, or any other accepted per-
spective. The leader’s main job should
not be to provide a script, but to pro-
voke the mindfulness of everyone in
the company. For example, innova-
tion depends on the ability to recog-
nize and recontextualize failures.
That’s what 3M did with the Post-it
note: A glue that failed to adhere be-
came one of its greatest successes.
Gabriel Hammond [founder/
CEO of the SteelPath investment
advisory firm] and I conducted a
study of failed products. We asked
participants questions like, “What
would you do with a substance that
adhered for only a short amount of
time?” Would they give up and go on
to the next product, or would they
reframe it into something useful?
To think this way, you have to
be willing to put things in a new
context. In Mindfulness, I pose a
puzzle to the reader: At 3 o’clock in
the morning, your doorbell rings.
It’s a man driving a Rolls-Royce and
wearing a sable coat. He says, “I’m
in a scavenger hunt. My ex-wife is
in it too. It’s important to me that
I beat her. I need a piece of wood
about 3 feet by 7 feet. I’ll give you
$60,000 for it.” Now where will you
find this piece of wood at that hour?
You can’t think of anything, so
you say you’re sorry. He leaves, and
you go back to sleep.
Art Kleiner
kleiner_art@
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is editor-in-chief of
strategy+business.
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The next day, you realize you
could have taken your closet door
off the hinges and given it to him.
But it didn’t occur to you to think
that way. Most products and servic-
es have that quality. The use to
which we put them is only one of
several potential uses.
S+B: How do you encourage people
to think this way?
LANGER: You put them in a context
that rewards a mindful approach to
failure. For example, I’ve consulted
to several nursing homes. I was once
in a director’s office and the nurse
came in complaining that one of the
residents didn’t want to go down
to the dining hall. She wanted to
stay in her room and have peanut
butter. They saw this as a failure and
began debating how to fix it. I asked,
“What’s wrong with letting her stay
in?” The nurse said, “Well, what if
everyone wanted to do that?”
First of all, they’d save lots of
money in the short run. In the long
run, it would help them figure out
how to change the food service
so people would want to come down
to dinner.
S+B: Many organizations have a
hard time with exceptions. If they let
someone get away with breaking
the rule…
LANGER: They’re afraid everyone
will want to do it. They know that
will lead to someone making a mis-
take, and they don’t want to have to
police everyone.
But underneath that ruling is a
type of company so worried about
making mistakes that it gives up
opportunities for innovation. Every
decision, by definition, involves un-
certainty. How do we design this
car? Where do we drill for oil? How
much should I allot for production?
At the moment the decision is an-
nounced, though, we act as if it was
handed down from the heavens, so
that a deviation from it is heresy
rather than an opportunity.
Then we compound the prob-
lem with selective enforcement. A
lot of rules don’t exist for the mani-
fest reason. Speed limits, for exam-
ple, don’t really regulate speed. The
authorities use them to pull over
who they want to pull over, often for
a variety of reasons. Most company
rules are like that. The companies
know most people are breaking the
rule. Why do they keep it in the first
place? So it’s there when they want
it, to target the people they want to
target for other reasons.
S+B: So the answer is to eliminate
penalties for mistakes?
LANGER: The answer is to recog-
nize that if something problematic
happens only once in a while, it’s no
big deal. And if it happens all the
time, there is probably a business op-
portunity somewhere nearby. It’s all
in the way you frame the mistake.
You get an absolute and you get it
wrong—a crisis, right? If you have a
“maybe” and you get it wrong, it’s
not so terrible.
We conducted a study of the
value of mistakes. We asked a group
of volunteers to come in at the start
of the day. We asked them what they
had eaten for breakfast, and told
them they would contribute to a re-
search project about the subject of
“morning,” either by drawing a pic-
ture or writing an essay. Then we
divided them into three groups. The
first group completed the assign-
ment without further instructions.
We stopped the second group half-
way through to give them a printout
that, we said, would help further
them along. But the printout spelled
it “mourning,” not “morning”—
making it clear they should have
been thinking about a funeral in-
stead of a sunrise. These groups real-
ized they had made a mistake, start-
ed over, and rushed their way
through to catch up.
S+B: Just as many groups in
business do when the specs change.
LANGER: Exactly. The third group
was told at the outset that if they
made a mistake, they shouldn’t start
over. Instead, they should incorpo-
“The type of company so worried
about making mistakes gives up
opportunities for innovation.”
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rate their ideas into the final piece of
work. Then, when we stopped them
halfway through with the new print-
out about “mourning,” they did ex-
actly that. They worked their old
material about daylight into their
new work on grieving.
Then we shuffled the essays and
drawings together and had a sepa-
rate group evaluate their quality.
The third group’s products were
consistently [seen as] superior to the
others, including those from the
group that didn’t make mistakes.
That’s because the third group was
mindful of what they were doing.
They were primed to see their mis-
takes as opportunities.
Mistakes are good things. They
are signals that you’re doing some-
thing mindlessly, and if you pay at-
tention, you’ll find an opportunity.
Suppose you’re producing car seats
and all of a sudden you find that the
armrest is built wrong. It was sup-
posed to be straight, and instead, it’s
curved. Before you throw it away,
think: What are the advantages of it
being curved? Well, maybe it can
serve as a tray, or add safety, or in-
crease comfort. You don’t get to that
way of thinking when you presume
that the decision—any decision—
means you’ve found the very best
way of doing things.
Mindfulness is very powerful.
When we’re mindful, noticing more
things, it’s literally and figuratively
enlivening. In a work situation that
encourages mindfulness, we enjoy
being there, we are healthier, it costs
less, and there are fewer accidents.
Research shows that when we’re
mindful, paying more direct atten-
tion to the people around us, we’re
seen as more charismatic. We’re able
to avert dangers and spot opportuni-
ties. We don’t fall into potholes. And
the things we produce seem to bear
the imprint of our mindfulness.
They are better.
A Context for Mindfulness
S+B: If you’re a leader, how do you
set a tone for this kind of approach?
LANGER: You cultivate the ability to
notice things around you. Noticing
new things, in general, puts you in
the present. That makes you more
sensitive to context. Most impor-
tant, it shows you that you didn’t
know that thing you thought you
knew, which makes everything new
to you again.
In business, there are a lot of au-
tomatic mind-sets that dictate what
people do. You set an example by
not approaching those in a mindless
way. For example, many companies
struggle with work–life balance.
People assume they should act one
way at work and another way at
home. But that type of work–life
balance is mindless. Sure, it’s better
than work–life imbalance. But bet-
ter still is work–life integration. Peo-
ple should be the same person wher-
ever they are, bringing the same
talents to bear at home and work.
Most people know that when
they’re at work, they’re not as au-
thentic. They’re oriented to out-
comes. When they’re at home, they
have more concern about relation-
ships. They pay more attention.
They take time to play. If they
brought those qualities to work,
they’d be less stressed and more ca-
pable. But to do that, they’d need to
exercise more control over their ac-
tivity. I bring my dog to work every
day because she’s old and needs care.
When she needs attention, I have to
be able to stop work for a minute. As
a leader, if I’m granting myself that
kind of freedom, then others should
have the same.
S+B: But not every organization
provides that kind of context.
LANGER: That’s because people at
the top of the hierarchy tend to as-
sume that people at the lower levels
don’t know much. But that turns
out to be incorrect. When you level
the hierarchy a bit, and everyone is
mindful and encouraged to do their
own thing, you end up with superior
coordinated activity. Not chaos. Em-
ployees feel cared for, valued.
The leaders have to recognize
that everything people do makes
sense from their perspective, and
that everyone can provide value in
the right context. Someone who
seems rigid is actually someone you
can count on, somebody stable. If
she seems impulsive, she’s spontane-
ous. If he seems gullible, he also pro-
motes trust and candor.
If you’re a leader, once you rec-
ognize this, not only do you end up
with more respect for people, but
you see how they add value. Then if
you value them more, they’ll work
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S+B: What did the call center
leaders say?
LANGER: They said, “We’ll try it
tomorrow.”
Companies without Stress
S+B: You have not yet mentioned
meditation.
LANGER: Meditation is a tool. You
can meditate to become mindful.
But you can also achieve mindful-
ness without meditation. It’s not
better or worse; just a different way.
In meditation, you focus on a
mantra or your breath, and when
stray thoughts occur, you notice
them and let them leave, no matter
how they grip you or upset you.
Sometimes that’s hard; sometimes
it’s easy. Then you return to the
breath or the mantra. Over time,
you come to see that it’s just a
thought, it’s not real.
The approach I prefer is to take
a thought coming in and look at it
from different perspectives. How do
you know it’s true? When is it un-
true? When is it an advantage?
When is it a disadvantage?
For example, stress is a result of
mindlessness. It’s a result of a
thought that something bad is going
to happen. You can examine that
thought. You can give yourself five
reasons why this awful event might
not occur. That immediately reduc-
es the stress. Or you can explore the
advantages it might bring along with
the problems. If you continue to be
mindful about your own thoughts,
and direct them this way, it is possi-
harder and enjoy it more. They’ll
need fewer days off, there will be
fewer accidents, healthcare costs will
come down. And your company will
make more money.
One basic principle is to notice
the things that people at other levels
notice. The rule I used in evaluating
the effectiveness of nursing homes
was to ask myself, “Could I stay here
myself?” If the answer was “No
way,” I’d ask myself why. Maybe it
smelled. Maybe the doors to the
apartments were kept open, so there
was no privacy. Maybe the staff were
in uniforms, which put them at a
distance from the residents. That
didn’t feel good.
I used a similar rule when I talk-
ed to the managers of a large com-
pany with a call center. They have a
thousand people receiving calls, all
with a script. I said, “Would you han-
dle 20 of these calls in a row yourself?
Let’s do it right now.” They wouldn’t
do it. The scripts are too boring.
But nobody at the call center is
allowed to break the script. As a con-
sumer, when I get a call asking for
money, I always say the same thing.
“If you break out of the script, I’ll
write you a check.” But the callers
can’t do it, even with that incentive.
It’s bizarre. Sometimes you have to
yell at a caller to stop the script so
you can get off the phone.
I told the call center leaders,
“Your employees, just like yourself,
have talked on the phone all their
lives. Nobody needs to be trained to
use the phone. Give them a few gen-
eral rules and let them talk as they
would normally. They’ll enjoy it.”
The data is very clear that when peo-
ple on one end of a transaction act
authentically, the people on the oth-
er end feel cared for. “Your company
will come across as trustworthy,” I
said, “and you’ll make the sale.”
ble to live a virtually stress-free life.
It saddens me that people in indus-
trial culture take stress as a baseline.
They think that to be human is to be
stressed. I don’t think so.
S+B: Are businesspeople more
sophisticated about mindfulness
than they would have been, perhaps,
in 1990?
LANGER: Are more people comfort-
able with being mindful in the face
of uncertainty? I would like to think
so, but I don’t know. Many people
confuse the stability of their mind-
sets with the stability of the under-
lying phenomenon. Everything is
changing, but people act as if things
are more certain than they actually
are. We’re taught this in school, and
it is reinforced at work. Even learn-
ing a sport, like tennis, you’re told,
“Here’s how you hold the racket;
here’s how you swing.” None of these
things are universally true; they ap-
ply only to certain players at certain
times. But it’s presented as true, and
over time, this gives us the illusion
that we know what’s going on.
S+B: And that’s a problem?
LANGER: When you think you
know what’s going on, you don’t
look. And when you don’t look, you
don’t see. And if you don’t look or
see, you’re not thriving.
For example, suppose I have a
cookie on my desk, and I’m trying
to figure out whether to offer it to
you. I will make this decision, like
all decisions, in the face of uncer-
tainty. Maybe you’re a diabetic.
“Work–life balance is mindless.
Better is work–life integration.”
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Maybe you’re trying to be healthy,
and you’re going to hate the person
who offers it to you. Or maybe
you’ll respond well to it and become
a bit more avuncular. Maybe the
gesture will make us feel friendlier
to each other, and make our interac-
tion more informal and authentic.
There’s no way of knowing.
People who study decision
making say you should gather infor-
mation and then weigh the costs
and the benefits. But there’s no end
of potentially relevant information
and no way of knowing the limits of
what you should consider. You
might do a cost-benefit analysis. But
the costs and the benefits are all in
your head, not in the cookie itself.
They incorporate your expectations
and interpretations. The cookie’s
sugar, for instance, might be bad for
your teeth. On the other hand, its
sweetness is satisfying, which leads
you to produce more ptyalin, which
is actually good for your teeth.
So, the point is clear. Rather
than worrying about whether a de-
cision is right, make the decision
work. Look at the advantages that
accrue from whatever happens, and
then play it as if it was the right de-
cision all along. Pay close enough
attention to what happens so that if
the decision goes wrong, you’re
aware of how to improve things
without changing course. That’s
what successful companies do.
S+B: That level of mindfulness
sounds exhausting.
LANGER: Mindfulness is energy-
begetting, not energy-consuming.
When you go on a trip, you’re pay-
ing money to see new things. And
it’s exhilarating, right? It’s not ex-
hausting. Humor relies on mindful-
ness. I’ll tell you a joke to illustrate:
Did you hear about the three-foot-
tall clairvoyant who escaped from
prison? There’s a small medium at
large. That’s funny only because you
notice the double meaning in those
words. Mindfulness makes it funny.
The only thing exhausting
about mindfulness is the concern we
have about it in the abstract. Oh my
gosh, what if I don’t have time to in-
vest all this attention? Or what if I
invest it and I still can’t solve the
problem? Or how am I supposed to
invest all this attention in these bor-
ing events?
Events are neither innately ex-
citing nor innately non-exciting. You
can make a boring event engaging
by noticing things about it. We stud-
ied this by taking groups of people
who professed [some] antipathy:
people who hated football, rap mu-
sic, or classical music. We had every-
one watch a video they professed to
hate, but we gave them instructions:
Notice six things that were new to
you. Then we asked them how they
liked the video. The more they no-
ticed, the more engaged they were—
not the other way around.
If you’re bored, make a distinc-
tion. It doesn’t matter if that distinc-
tion is grand, grandiose, or petty; it
has the same psychological effect on
you. If you truly dislike what you’re
doing, then being mindful about
it might show you a way to stop hav-
ing to do it. If you hate doing the
dishes, say to your spouse, “I’ll
do something else. I don’t want to
do this.”
S+B: Is it really feasible to design
companies to promote this level of
attention?
LANGER: Yes. The quality move-
ment and Japanese management,
for example, have a lot of methods
that develop people’s awareness of
the processes around them. They
are continuously engaged in im-
proving the systems, paying atten-
tion to every detail, and making it
better. That’s just one example.
You don’t have to set aside time
for meditation. Depending on how
you design them, written directions,
physical environments, incentives,
and practices can all either put peo-
ple to sleep or wake them up. +
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  • 1. strategy+business ISSUE 78 SPRING 2015 REPRINT 00310 BY ART KLEINER The Thought Leader Interview: Ellen Langer A pioneer in mindfulness research says that companies can promote innovation and their own rejuvenation by setting the right context.
  • 2. THOUGHT LEADER S uppose you’re confined to a nursing home. You’re elder- ly, you’ve lost much of your mobility, and your faculties are dete- riorating. Along comes a Harvard University social psychology profes- sor named Ellen Langer who takes you away on a retreat, where every- thing is transformed into the way it looked and felt when you were 25. Radios with vacuum tubes play rockabilly and Perry Como, a hard- cover copy of Ian Fleming’s Goldfin- ger sits on a Danish modern coffee table (the movie won’t be released for several years yet), the clothing is au courant for 1959, and the conver- sation covers recent events like Fidel Castro’s invasion of Havana. The staff treat you like you’re in the prime of physical health, making you carry your own suitcases up- stairs even if you haven’t recently lifted anything nearly that heavy. You know, at some level, that this is all a fictional re-creation. But as it comes alive around you, you find yourself paying attention to your environment in ways you haven’t done in years. You wouldn’t expect five days in a retreat like this to have much ef- fect. But in the “counterclockwise” study, which Langer conducted in 1981 and named after the way it seemed to reverse the effects of time, the results were remarkable. At the end of the retreat, members of the group showed demonstrable im- provement, on average, in objective tests of memory, height, weight gain, posture, vision, and hearing. They even looked noticeably younger. To Langer, most people are much more capable than they think they are. The way they think holds back their capabilities. But when a context forces people out of their in- grained, self-imposed limits (“I am old”), it makes them mindful. They have to approach the world freshly, with a beginner’s mind, in a way that has an enormous positive effect. Langer, who is 67 and the first wom- an to gain tenure in Harvard’s psy- chology department, has conducted dozens of studies of changed con- text—involving such diverse situa- tions as aging, recovery from disease, individual creativity, organizational innovation, the management of dis- abilities, and addiction. And they all share a theme: Cultivated mindful- ness can change your life. thoughtleader 1 The Thought Leader Interview: Ellen Langer A pioneer in mindfulness research says that companies can promote innovation and their own rejuvenation by setting the right context. PhotographbyBryceVickmark BY ART KLEINER
  • 3. thoughtleader 2 As many business leaders know, mindfulness is gathering momen- tum as a management practice. Conferences such as Wisdom 2.0, and companies such as Google, are making a clear case that more delib- erate awareness leads to stronger performance and better decision making. Often, this improvement is linked to meditation practice. But other forms of mindfulness are also prominent in the business world to- day, including the simple concept of “being here now”—holding an open frame of mind, avoiding the com- placent arrogance that comes from the “illusion of certainty,” as Langer calls it. In his October 2014 profile of Langer for the New York Times Magazine, writer Bruce Grierson described her form of mindfulness as “noticing moment-to-moment changes around you, from the dif- ferences in the face of your spouse across the breakfast table to the vari- ability of your asthma symptoms.” This approach runs counter, of course, to the highly focused, take- no-prisoners approach to leadership prevalent in many companies today. The executive’s attention is sup- posed to be streamlined and free of distractions so that he or she can pay attention only to what is important. But in practice, that means tackling most problems as rapidly and mind- lessly as possible, just to get them out of the way. Langer argues that distractions, when approached with the right frame of mind, are sources of opportunity. Langer recently spoke with strategy+business in her office in Cambridge, Mass., about the theory and practice of mindfulness in busi- ness. The occasion was the new 25th- anniversary edition of her first book on the subject: Mindfulness (Da Capo Press, 2014). In both her classroom and her consultations, Langer is known for her cheerfully blunt insis- tence on two basic premises: First, inattention is the source of most (or all) problems faced by the world’s leaders today. Second, an organiza- tion that provides a context that en- ables people to be mindful on the job will reap the benefits of innova- tion and effectiveness. S+B: The counterclockwise study is a remarkable story. But that anachronistic world lasted for only a week. Then they all returned to the real world. What is this story really telling us? LANGER: The purpose of that ex- periment was not to set up an artifi- cial environment and show how it influenced behavior. The major point is the power of possibility. The people in the experiment cured themselves; we just provided a pla- cebo, a catalyst for change. In other words, all the limits that people as- sume to be real—limits on vitality, creativity, innovation, and even health—are often of our own mak- ing. Through mindful interven- tions, they can be reversed. One of the basic principles of so- cial psychology is that behavior is context-dependent. This runs coun- ter to the personality theory that people associate with psychology, which says that everything you do is a function of who you are inside, and if you change your personality, you can change your life. In social psy- chology, you’re not the master of your fate. The context is the master. So if you want to gain real con- trol over your life, the first step is to ask who controls the context. Then find ways to generate the kind of context that will help you do the things you want to do. By being aware of the context, and making more mindful choices about it, you can become the master of your fate even in a context-dependent world. In the counterclockwise study, we improved memory and strength. That was good. But the most excit- ing aspect was that we improved people’s vision and hearing. If you ask most people, “Can eyesight im- prove?” they say no. When you show them it can, their minds open up to other possibilities. We’ve done other studies of eye- sight improvement. In one study we reversed the Snellen eye chart. This is the familiar eye chart in every op- tometrist’s office, where the letters get smaller as you look down. But we made the letters get progressively larger. This sent the message that “you will find it easier to see as you go along.” People could see what they couldn’t see before. By changing people’s expectations of what they would see, we improved their vision. S+B: Does it help to draw the patient’s attention to the fact that you reversed the type sizes? “In social psychology, you’re not the master of your fate. The context is the master. To gain control over your life, ask who controls the context.”
  • 4. 3 thoughtleader strategy+businessissue78 LANGER: Yes, it does. The essence of being mindful is noticing change. The Snellen eye chart is supposed to provide an absolute measurement of your vision—a number like 20/40. But you’re in an artificial, high-stress environment, looking at a card with tiny type. It’s bizarre to think that number would be the same the next morning, when you’re driving around hungry looking for a restaurant. If you’re aware of these differences, your vision can improve. We see the same thing in re- covery from illness. When people are told they have a chronic illness, they assume the diagnosis is abso- lute. They stop paying attention to their own symptoms. If they were conditioned to pay attention, they’d notice that the symptoms vary. Sometimes they’re greater, some- times they’re less, sometimes they don’t even exist. Then they could start to ask, “Why are these differ- ences occurring?” Even if you don’t find the answer, the research we’ve done on mindfulness over the years shows that just paying attention to variability is good for your health. My life’s work is to make the link between the way you pay atten- tion and your vitality more obvious. You don’t need a pill to improve; you can improve by changing the way you view your circumstances. For instance, we have studied the relationship between people’s stereo- types of themselves and their perfor- mance. In one experiment, we tested a group of Asian women in math. The research consistently shows that if they are primed for their gen- der—given cues that remind them that they’re women—they don’t do as well as when the experiment draws their attention to the fact that they’re Asian. The test itself is the same. There are similar findings for every race, even for stereotypes that they consciously and rightfully re- ject. Black men score much higher on the same test when they are told it’s a test of athletic ability than when they’re told it’s a test of intel- lect. All of us are mindlessly prone to believe stereotypes of ourselves unless we question them. Embracing Mistakes S+B: How does this apply to business? LANGER: In business, there is a ten- dency to seek absolutes. They can be metrics, like the Snellen eye chart, or prejudices, or any other accepted per- spective. The leader’s main job should not be to provide a script, but to pro- voke the mindfulness of everyone in the company. For example, innova- tion depends on the ability to recog- nize and recontextualize failures. That’s what 3M did with the Post-it note: A glue that failed to adhere be- came one of its greatest successes. Gabriel Hammond [founder/ CEO of the SteelPath investment advisory firm] and I conducted a study of failed products. We asked participants questions like, “What would you do with a substance that adhered for only a short amount of time?” Would they give up and go on to the next product, or would they reframe it into something useful? To think this way, you have to be willing to put things in a new context. In Mindfulness, I pose a puzzle to the reader: At 3 o’clock in the morning, your doorbell rings. It’s a man driving a Rolls-Royce and wearing a sable coat. He says, “I’m in a scavenger hunt. My ex-wife is in it too. It’s important to me that I beat her. I need a piece of wood about 3 feet by 7 feet. I’ll give you $60,000 for it.” Now where will you find this piece of wood at that hour? You can’t think of anything, so you say you’re sorry. He leaves, and you go back to sleep. Art Kleiner kleiner_art@ strategy-business.com is editor-in-chief of strategy+business.
  • 5. thoughtleader 4 The next day, you realize you could have taken your closet door off the hinges and given it to him. But it didn’t occur to you to think that way. Most products and servic- es have that quality. The use to which we put them is only one of several potential uses. S+B: How do you encourage people to think this way? LANGER: You put them in a context that rewards a mindful approach to failure. For example, I’ve consulted to several nursing homes. I was once in a director’s office and the nurse came in complaining that one of the residents didn’t want to go down to the dining hall. She wanted to stay in her room and have peanut butter. They saw this as a failure and began debating how to fix it. I asked, “What’s wrong with letting her stay in?” The nurse said, “Well, what if everyone wanted to do that?” First of all, they’d save lots of money in the short run. In the long run, it would help them figure out how to change the food service so people would want to come down to dinner. S+B: Many organizations have a hard time with exceptions. If they let someone get away with breaking the rule… LANGER: They’re afraid everyone will want to do it. They know that will lead to someone making a mis- take, and they don’t want to have to police everyone. But underneath that ruling is a type of company so worried about making mistakes that it gives up opportunities for innovation. Every decision, by definition, involves un- certainty. How do we design this car? Where do we drill for oil? How much should I allot for production? At the moment the decision is an- nounced, though, we act as if it was handed down from the heavens, so that a deviation from it is heresy rather than an opportunity. Then we compound the prob- lem with selective enforcement. A lot of rules don’t exist for the mani- fest reason. Speed limits, for exam- ple, don’t really regulate speed. The authorities use them to pull over who they want to pull over, often for a variety of reasons. Most company rules are like that. The companies know most people are breaking the rule. Why do they keep it in the first place? So it’s there when they want it, to target the people they want to target for other reasons. S+B: So the answer is to eliminate penalties for mistakes? LANGER: The answer is to recog- nize that if something problematic happens only once in a while, it’s no big deal. And if it happens all the time, there is probably a business op- portunity somewhere nearby. It’s all in the way you frame the mistake. You get an absolute and you get it wrong—a crisis, right? If you have a “maybe” and you get it wrong, it’s not so terrible. We conducted a study of the value of mistakes. We asked a group of volunteers to come in at the start of the day. We asked them what they had eaten for breakfast, and told them they would contribute to a re- search project about the subject of “morning,” either by drawing a pic- ture or writing an essay. Then we divided them into three groups. The first group completed the assign- ment without further instructions. We stopped the second group half- way through to give them a printout that, we said, would help further them along. But the printout spelled it “mourning,” not “morning”— making it clear they should have been thinking about a funeral in- stead of a sunrise. These groups real- ized they had made a mistake, start- ed over, and rushed their way through to catch up. S+B: Just as many groups in business do when the specs change. LANGER: Exactly. The third group was told at the outset that if they made a mistake, they shouldn’t start over. Instead, they should incorpo- “The type of company so worried about making mistakes gives up opportunities for innovation.”
  • 6. 5 thoughtleader strategy+businessissue78 rate their ideas into the final piece of work. Then, when we stopped them halfway through with the new print- out about “mourning,” they did ex- actly that. They worked their old material about daylight into their new work on grieving. Then we shuffled the essays and drawings together and had a sepa- rate group evaluate their quality. The third group’s products were consistently [seen as] superior to the others, including those from the group that didn’t make mistakes. That’s because the third group was mindful of what they were doing. They were primed to see their mis- takes as opportunities. Mistakes are good things. They are signals that you’re doing some- thing mindlessly, and if you pay at- tention, you’ll find an opportunity. Suppose you’re producing car seats and all of a sudden you find that the armrest is built wrong. It was sup- posed to be straight, and instead, it’s curved. Before you throw it away, think: What are the advantages of it being curved? Well, maybe it can serve as a tray, or add safety, or in- crease comfort. You don’t get to that way of thinking when you presume that the decision—any decision— means you’ve found the very best way of doing things. Mindfulness is very powerful. When we’re mindful, noticing more things, it’s literally and figuratively enlivening. In a work situation that encourages mindfulness, we enjoy being there, we are healthier, it costs less, and there are fewer accidents. Research shows that when we’re mindful, paying more direct atten- tion to the people around us, we’re seen as more charismatic. We’re able to avert dangers and spot opportuni- ties. We don’t fall into potholes. And the things we produce seem to bear the imprint of our mindfulness. They are better. A Context for Mindfulness S+B: If you’re a leader, how do you set a tone for this kind of approach? LANGER: You cultivate the ability to notice things around you. Noticing new things, in general, puts you in the present. That makes you more sensitive to context. Most impor- tant, it shows you that you didn’t know that thing you thought you knew, which makes everything new to you again. In business, there are a lot of au- tomatic mind-sets that dictate what people do. You set an example by not approaching those in a mindless way. For example, many companies struggle with work–life balance. People assume they should act one way at work and another way at home. But that type of work–life balance is mindless. Sure, it’s better than work–life imbalance. But bet- ter still is work–life integration. Peo- ple should be the same person wher- ever they are, bringing the same talents to bear at home and work. Most people know that when they’re at work, they’re not as au- thentic. They’re oriented to out- comes. When they’re at home, they have more concern about relation- ships. They pay more attention. They take time to play. If they brought those qualities to work, they’d be less stressed and more ca- pable. But to do that, they’d need to exercise more control over their ac- tivity. I bring my dog to work every day because she’s old and needs care. When she needs attention, I have to be able to stop work for a minute. As a leader, if I’m granting myself that kind of freedom, then others should have the same. S+B: But not every organization provides that kind of context. LANGER: That’s because people at the top of the hierarchy tend to as- sume that people at the lower levels don’t know much. But that turns out to be incorrect. When you level the hierarchy a bit, and everyone is mindful and encouraged to do their own thing, you end up with superior coordinated activity. Not chaos. Em- ployees feel cared for, valued. The leaders have to recognize that everything people do makes sense from their perspective, and that everyone can provide value in the right context. Someone who seems rigid is actually someone you can count on, somebody stable. If she seems impulsive, she’s spontane- ous. If he seems gullible, he also pro- motes trust and candor. If you’re a leader, once you rec- ognize this, not only do you end up with more respect for people, but you see how they add value. Then if you value them more, they’ll work
  • 7. thoughtleader 6 S+B: What did the call center leaders say? LANGER: They said, “We’ll try it tomorrow.” Companies without Stress S+B: You have not yet mentioned meditation. LANGER: Meditation is a tool. You can meditate to become mindful. But you can also achieve mindful- ness without meditation. It’s not better or worse; just a different way. In meditation, you focus on a mantra or your breath, and when stray thoughts occur, you notice them and let them leave, no matter how they grip you or upset you. Sometimes that’s hard; sometimes it’s easy. Then you return to the breath or the mantra. Over time, you come to see that it’s just a thought, it’s not real. The approach I prefer is to take a thought coming in and look at it from different perspectives. How do you know it’s true? When is it un- true? When is it an advantage? When is it a disadvantage? For example, stress is a result of mindlessness. It’s a result of a thought that something bad is going to happen. You can examine that thought. You can give yourself five reasons why this awful event might not occur. That immediately reduc- es the stress. Or you can explore the advantages it might bring along with the problems. If you continue to be mindful about your own thoughts, and direct them this way, it is possi- harder and enjoy it more. They’ll need fewer days off, there will be fewer accidents, healthcare costs will come down. And your company will make more money. One basic principle is to notice the things that people at other levels notice. The rule I used in evaluating the effectiveness of nursing homes was to ask myself, “Could I stay here myself?” If the answer was “No way,” I’d ask myself why. Maybe it smelled. Maybe the doors to the apartments were kept open, so there was no privacy. Maybe the staff were in uniforms, which put them at a distance from the residents. That didn’t feel good. I used a similar rule when I talk- ed to the managers of a large com- pany with a call center. They have a thousand people receiving calls, all with a script. I said, “Would you han- dle 20 of these calls in a row yourself? Let’s do it right now.” They wouldn’t do it. The scripts are too boring. But nobody at the call center is allowed to break the script. As a con- sumer, when I get a call asking for money, I always say the same thing. “If you break out of the script, I’ll write you a check.” But the callers can’t do it, even with that incentive. It’s bizarre. Sometimes you have to yell at a caller to stop the script so you can get off the phone. I told the call center leaders, “Your employees, just like yourself, have talked on the phone all their lives. Nobody needs to be trained to use the phone. Give them a few gen- eral rules and let them talk as they would normally. They’ll enjoy it.” The data is very clear that when peo- ple on one end of a transaction act authentically, the people on the oth- er end feel cared for. “Your company will come across as trustworthy,” I said, “and you’ll make the sale.” ble to live a virtually stress-free life. It saddens me that people in indus- trial culture take stress as a baseline. They think that to be human is to be stressed. I don’t think so. S+B: Are businesspeople more sophisticated about mindfulness than they would have been, perhaps, in 1990? LANGER: Are more people comfort- able with being mindful in the face of uncertainty? I would like to think so, but I don’t know. Many people confuse the stability of their mind- sets with the stability of the under- lying phenomenon. Everything is changing, but people act as if things are more certain than they actually are. We’re taught this in school, and it is reinforced at work. Even learn- ing a sport, like tennis, you’re told, “Here’s how you hold the racket; here’s how you swing.” None of these things are universally true; they ap- ply only to certain players at certain times. But it’s presented as true, and over time, this gives us the illusion that we know what’s going on. S+B: And that’s a problem? LANGER: When you think you know what’s going on, you don’t look. And when you don’t look, you don’t see. And if you don’t look or see, you’re not thriving. For example, suppose I have a cookie on my desk, and I’m trying to figure out whether to offer it to you. I will make this decision, like all decisions, in the face of uncer- tainty. Maybe you’re a diabetic. “Work–life balance is mindless. Better is work–life integration.”
  • 8. 7 thoughtleader strategy+businessissue78 Maybe you’re trying to be healthy, and you’re going to hate the person who offers it to you. Or maybe you’ll respond well to it and become a bit more avuncular. Maybe the gesture will make us feel friendlier to each other, and make our interac- tion more informal and authentic. There’s no way of knowing. People who study decision making say you should gather infor- mation and then weigh the costs and the benefits. But there’s no end of potentially relevant information and no way of knowing the limits of what you should consider. You might do a cost-benefit analysis. But the costs and the benefits are all in your head, not in the cookie itself. They incorporate your expectations and interpretations. The cookie’s sugar, for instance, might be bad for your teeth. On the other hand, its sweetness is satisfying, which leads you to produce more ptyalin, which is actually good for your teeth. So, the point is clear. Rather than worrying about whether a de- cision is right, make the decision work. Look at the advantages that accrue from whatever happens, and then play it as if it was the right de- cision all along. Pay close enough attention to what happens so that if the decision goes wrong, you’re aware of how to improve things without changing course. That’s what successful companies do. S+B: That level of mindfulness sounds exhausting. LANGER: Mindfulness is energy- begetting, not energy-consuming. When you go on a trip, you’re pay- ing money to see new things. And it’s exhilarating, right? It’s not ex- hausting. Humor relies on mindful- ness. I’ll tell you a joke to illustrate: Did you hear about the three-foot- tall clairvoyant who escaped from prison? There’s a small medium at large. That’s funny only because you notice the double meaning in those words. Mindfulness makes it funny. The only thing exhausting about mindfulness is the concern we have about it in the abstract. Oh my gosh, what if I don’t have time to in- vest all this attention? Or what if I invest it and I still can’t solve the problem? Or how am I supposed to invest all this attention in these bor- ing events? Events are neither innately ex- citing nor innately non-exciting. You can make a boring event engaging by noticing things about it. We stud- ied this by taking groups of people who professed [some] antipathy: people who hated football, rap mu- sic, or classical music. We had every- one watch a video they professed to hate, but we gave them instructions: Notice six things that were new to you. Then we asked them how they liked the video. The more they no- ticed, the more engaged they were— not the other way around. If you’re bored, make a distinc- tion. It doesn’t matter if that distinc- tion is grand, grandiose, or petty; it has the same psychological effect on you. If you truly dislike what you’re doing, then being mindful about it might show you a way to stop hav- ing to do it. If you hate doing the dishes, say to your spouse, “I’ll do something else. I don’t want to do this.” S+B: Is it really feasible to design companies to promote this level of attention? LANGER: Yes. The quality move- ment and Japanese management, for example, have a lot of methods that develop people’s awareness of the processes around them. They are continuously engaged in im- proving the systems, paying atten- tion to every detail, and making it better. That’s just one example. You don’t have to set aside time for meditation. Depending on how you design them, written directions, physical environments, incentives, and practices can all either put peo- ple to sleep or wake them up. + Reprint No. 00310 “Rather than worrying about whether a decision is right, make the decision work.”
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