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“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart
Twitter: @ePatientDave
Let Patients Help
Decide What
Matters
facebook.com/ePatientDave
LinkedIn.com/in/ePatientDave
dave@epatientdave.com
“It can be argued
that the largest
yet most neglected
health care
resource,
worldwide,
is the patient…”
Patients are the
ultimate stakeholder
Yet they’re often
excluded from discussing
ANYthing
What
Glover
observed
was not
caused by
modern
insurance
What could be said
that would make any
difference?
To whom would you
say it?
e-Patients.net founder
Tom Ferguson MD
1944-2006
Equipped
Engaged
Empowered
Enabled”
Doc Tom said,
“e-Patients are
“E” is not a new idea
•  Doctor Spock’s Baby and Child Care (1946)
“E” is not a new idea
•  Doctor Spock’s Baby and Child Care (1946)
•  Our Bodies, Ourselves (1973)
“We weren’t encouraged to ask questions,
but to depend on the so-called experts,”
Hawley told Women’s eNews.
“Not having a say in our own health care
frustrated and angered us.We didn’t have
the information we needed, so we decided
to find it on our own.”
Who gets to say
what’s important??
Who gets to say
which outcomes
are important??
Who gets to say
which outcomes
should be goals?
Who gets to
declare which
endpoint
we measure?
Who gets to say
what’s in the
patient’s best
interest?
Paternalistic caring
“No, honey –
you don’t know
what you need.”
“I’ll take care of you.”
Sensible – up to a point
“I’ll decide for you.”
19
“How can patients participate if they can’t
see what I see?” – Dr.Danny Sands
The Incidental Finding
Routine shoulder x-ray, Jan. 2, 2007
“Your	
  shoulder	
  
	
  	
  will	
  be	
  fine	
  …	
  
	
  	
  but	
  there’s	
  	
  
	
  	
  something	
  	
  
	
  	
  in	
  your	
  lung”	
  
Classic
Stage IV,
Grade 4
Renal Cell
Carcinoma
Illustration on
the drug company’s
web site
Median Survival:
24 weeks
ACOR members told me:
•  This is an uncommon disease –
get to a hospital that does a lot of cases
•  There’s no cure, but HDIL-2 sometimes works.
–  When it does, about half the time it’s permanent
–  The side effects are severe.
•  Don’t let them give you anything else first
•  Here are four doctors in your area who do it
–  And one of them was at my hospital
Surgery & Interleukin worked.
Target Lesion 1 – Left Upper Lobe
Baseline: 39x43 mm 50 weeks: 20x12 mm 24
Keeping patients in the dark, #1
IL-2?
Keeping patients in the dark, #2
Open surgery
vs. laparoscopic
Case: Elyse Chapman
Case: Elyse Chapman
Keeping patients in the dark, #3
Option:
Watchful
Waiting
Can you keep someone
in the dark
if you don’t KNOW
what you’re
not telling them?
Keeping patients in the dark, #4
Vaginal
hysterectomy
Keeping patients in the dark, #5
IL-2
(again)
What’s changed since
Arrow’s day?
Problem:
Patients may not
find value in all the
technical details
(In other words,
to them, the
discussion wasn’t
patient centered)
“Ultimately,
it turned out
to be the
trade-off
between
peeing better
and sex.”
“And when it
was stated
in those terms,
SDM flowed
into the
conversation.”
Let patients help
say which
outcomes
are important
Clarity is power.
If the data’s unclear
let’s MAKE it clear
Like other industries do.
Thomas Goetz, Wired
Thomas Goetz, Wired
“It’s time to redesign medical data”
People perform better
when they’re
informed better.
It’s perverse
to keep people
in the dark
and call them ignorant
Corollary:
“My patients
aren’t like that.”
“They aren’t
asking for this.”
Objection:
Urgency:
The Demographic
Crunch
Problem(?)
Chronic Disease Epidemic
CDC	
  (2004)	
  Ten	
  Great	
  Public	
  Health	
  Achievements	
  in	
  the	
  20th	
  Century	
  &	
  Leading	
  Causes	
  of	
  Death	
  
Jones	
  (2012)	
  The	
  Burden	
  of	
  Disease	
  and	
  the	
  Changing	
  Task	
  of	
  Medicine.	
  NEJM	
  
Used	
  with	
  permission	
  of	
  John	
  O.	
  Moore	
  MD,	
  PhD	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  newmed.media.mit.edu	
  
Problem(?)
Chronic Disease Epidemic
CDC	
  (2004)	
  Ten	
  Great	
  Public	
  Health	
  Achievements	
  in	
  the	
  20th	
  Century	
  &	
  Leading	
  Causes	
  of	
  Death	
  
Jones	
  (2012)	
  The	
  Burden	
  of	
  Disease	
  and	
  the	
  Changing	
  Task	
  of	
  Medicine.	
  NEJM	
  
Used	
  with	
  permission	
  of	
  John	
  O.	
  Moore	
  MD,	
  PhD	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  newmed.media.mit.edu	
  
52
My classmate Jay
Half of everyone who’s
ever been 65 is alive today
Population today: ~7.0 billion
End of World War II: ~2.3 billion
Let Hippies Help
Institute of Medicine – Sept 2012
Major New Report:“Best Care at Lower Cost”
Yes, the IOM itself
says e-patients are an
essential part of
tomorrow’s healthcare.
Patient-Clinician Partnerships
Engaged, empowered patients—
A learning health care system is
anchored on patient needs and
perspectives
and promotes the inclusion of patients,
families, and other caregivers as vital
members of the continuously learning
care team.
June 11, 2014
Announced –
•  Patient advisory panel
•  Patient peer review
of research papers
•  Authors are to document
how they involved patients in defining
the question and outcome measures
www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g3726
William Gibson
“The future
is here –
it’s just
not evenly
distributed yet”
“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart
Twitter: @ePatientDave
Let Patients Help
Decide What
Matters
facebook.com/ePatientDave
LinkedIn.com/in/ePatientDave
dave@epatientdave.com

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