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    Comments on Carolyn Dicey Jennings
                “Conscious Immersion”
                             Sebastian Watzl
The Question




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    Is there consciousness without
    attention (“beyond the reach of
            attention”, p. 1)?
Carolyn’s Answer




+ YES
 (not in the usual ways, though)
+
    More detail ...

       Previous attempts to identify conscious experiences outside
        attention have failed
           gist experience: best candidates without attention probably not
            conscious
           imagistic experience: there is more to attention than the focus:
            attention prioritizes some and suppresses other information
           phenomenal experience: no clear argument to show why
            representation of, say, the full Sperling display are conscious. Why
            not preconscious?

       New candidate: conscious immersion
           clearly conscious
           in no way is “within the reach of attention”
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    What is consciousness?

       “that which separates dreamless sleep from dreaming” (p. 4)




                                 Aside
                                 Why not:
                                 a state or activity is conscious iff
                                 there is something it is like to be in
                                 that state or engage in that activity?
+
    What is attention?

       “[Attention] is a voluntary act of prioritization by the subject,
        where “voluntary” is taken to include everything from volitional
        direction of attention to voluntary acceptance of attention to a
        stimulus [...] This prioritization is best understood through the
        concept of resource distribution” (p. 3)
+
    What is attention?

       “[Attention] is a voluntary act of prioritization by the subject,
        where “voluntary” is taken to include everything from volitional
        direction of attention to voluntary acceptance of attention to a
        stimulus [...] This prioritization is best understood through the
        concept of resource distribution” (p. 3)




                          For Carolyn attention is always voluntary!
+
    Some excellent points that
    could be expanded
+
    Against conscious gist perception

       Excellent points!

       But maybe some (medium fast) gist perception is both
        conscious and outside attention? (What do the subjects
        report?)
+
    Broadening attention beyond the
    focus
       Carolyn:

        outside the focus of attention ≠ outside the reach of attention

       What would show (in perception) that information is not
        suppressed by attention but outside its reach?
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    Is attention always voluntary?
+
    It doesn’t seem to!

       Sometimes attention is automatically drawn to something
        against our will.

       Sometimes attention drifts aimlessly.
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    But maybe that’s too fast!

       The intentionality criterion for automaticity


        Attempts by a subject to prevent an automatic process from
        proceeding are not successful (Yantis and Jonides 1990)
+
    But maybe that’s too fast!

       The intentionality criterion for automaticity


        Attempts by a subject to prevent an automatic process from
        proceeding are not successful (Yantis and Jonides 1990)
+
    But maybe that’s too fast!


                                          Result 1:
                                          RT btw. onset and
                                          no-onset target
                                          does not differ


                                          Result 2:
                                          onset distractor
                                          does not seem to
                                          capture attention
                                          against the
                                          subject’s prior
                                          intentions

                             Yantis and Jonides 1990, Figure 3
+
    But maybe that’s too fast!

       Tentative conclusions from these and other experiments:

            Attention capture is not automatic according to the intentionality
             criterion
            What captures attention and how is contingent on the subject’s
             goals, intentions and task: contingent capture




See also: Folk, Remington and                  Yet against see: Theeuwes 1991,
Johnston 1992; Yantis 1993; Bacon and          Theeuwes 1994;Theeuwes 2004; for a
Egeth 1994; Yantis and Egeth 1999;             (opinionated) review: Theeuwes 2010
Serences et al. 2005; Folk and
Remington 2006; Chen and Mordkoff
2007; Ansorge and Horstmann 2007;
Kiss et al. 2008; etc.
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    Distinctions

    1.       Attention is always directly controlled by the subject.          ✖
    2.       Attention is always an act that is sensitive to a subject’s
             goals, intentions, tasks, etc.
                                                                              ✔
    3.       Attention is always an act that is under the subject’s voluntary
             control (p. 3)
                                                                                   ✔
                                                                                  ?
             i.e. the subject can voluntarily control attention (in a sense in which
             she cannot control, say, what she sees).
+
    Does conscious immersion
    involve no attention?
+
    Carolyn’s claim

       Conscious immersion is a kind of conscious experience that
        lies beyond the reach of attention.
+
    What is conscious immersion?

       "I understand “conscious immersion” to be conscious
        engrossment in a task, activity, or process that proceeds via
        unconscious, involuntary control" (p. 20/21)

       close to flow consciousness (Csikszentmihalyi)
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    Flow without attention?




           The opposite seems true!
+
    A Dancer

       "Your concentration is very
        complete. Your mind isn't
        wandering, you are not
        thinking of something else; you
        are totally involved in what
        you are doing ....”


    Csikszentmihaly, Flow, p. 53
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    A chess player

       "... the concentration is like
        breathing - you never think of it.
        The roof could fall and, if it
        missed you, you would be
        unaware of it”

    Csikszentmihaly, Flow, p. 53/54
+
    Flow without attention?

     “The first symptom of flow is a narrowing of attention on a
     clearly defined goal. We feel involved, concentrated,
     absorbed.” (Csikszentmihaly, Evolving Self, p. xiii)
+
    Not only Csikszentmihaly!

       When absorbed in intellectual
        attention we may become so
        inattentive to outer things as to
        be 'absent-minded,’ [...].”

    W. James, Principles, p. 418/419
+
    But Carolyn has an argument!

          1. Immersion experience is conscious.           ✔
          2. Immersion experience is involuntary.
          3. Attention is always voluntary.

    Hence 4.   Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
+
    But Carolyn has an argument!

          1. Immersion experience is conscious.
          2. Immersion experience is involuntary.
                                                          Ambiguity!
          3. Attention is always voluntary.

    Hence 4.   Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
+
    But Carolyn has an argument!

          1. Immersion experience is conscious.
          2. Immersion experience is not directly controlled        ✔
             voluntarily.
          3. Attention is always directly controlled voluntarily.   ✖
    Hence 4.   Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
+
    But Carolyn has an argument!

          1. Immersion experience is conscious.
          2. Immersion experience is not directly controlled        ✔
             voluntarily.
          3. Attention is always directly controlled voluntarily.   ✖
    Hence 4.   Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
+
    But Carolyn has an argument!

          1. Immersion experience is conscious.
          2. Immersion experience is not sensitive to the
                                                                     ✖
             subject’s goals, intentions, and tasks.
          3. Attention is always sensitive to the subject’s goals,   ✔
             intentions, and tasks.

    Hence 4.   Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
+
    Csikszentmihaly again ...

       “The first symptom of flow is a narrowing of attention on a
        clearly defined goal. We feel involved, concentrated,
        absorbed.” (Csikszentmihaly, Evolving Self, p. xiii)

       “When goals are clear, feedback relevant, and challenges and
        skills are in balance, attention becomes ordered and fully
        invested [...] There is no space in consciousness for
        distracting thoughts, irrelevant feelings” (Csikszentmihaly,
        Finding Flow, p. 31)
+
    But Carolyn has an argument!

          1. Immersion experience is conscious.
          2. Immersion experience is not sensitive to the
                                                                     ✖
             subject’s goals, intentions, and tasks.
          3. Attention is always sensitive to the subject’s goals,   ✔
             intentions, and tasks.

    Hence 4.   Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
+
    Another kind of attention
+
    So what is going on?

       When immersed or in flow there is a sense in which we do not
        focus our attention on what we are doing.
+
    So what is going on?

       Yet there is also a sense in which our attention is completely
        focused on what we are doing!
+
    Distinction (from A. White)

       Spectator attention
               paying attention to what you are doing third-personally

       Agent attention
               paying attention to what you are doing first-personally

       Rough synonyms for agent attention to your own φ-ing:
           φ-ing attentively.
           concentrating (attention) on φ-ing.
+
    Agent Attention

        involves prioritizing some things (what you are doing right now)
         while suppressing others (your environment, distracting thoughts
         etc.
        is sensitive to the subject’s goals, intention, and plans.
        because it is not an activity distinct from the activity you are
         performing attentively (the activity is a way your attention may be
         engaged)
        is something the subject is doing (in the same way the attentively
         performed activities are things she is doing)
+
    Claim

       In conscious immersion there is
           no spectator attention to what what we are doing!
           a lot of agent attention to what we are doing!
Conclusion




+      Agent attention might be
    voluntary and essential for the
        conscious immersion
+




    The End

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Comments jennings 042012_1

  • 1. + Comments on Carolyn Dicey Jennings “Conscious Immersion” Sebastian Watzl
  • 2. The Question + Is there consciousness without attention (“beyond the reach of attention”, p. 1)?
  • 3. Carolyn’s Answer + YES (not in the usual ways, though)
  • 4. + More detail ...  Previous attempts to identify conscious experiences outside attention have failed  gist experience: best candidates without attention probably not conscious  imagistic experience: there is more to attention than the focus: attention prioritizes some and suppresses other information  phenomenal experience: no clear argument to show why representation of, say, the full Sperling display are conscious. Why not preconscious?  New candidate: conscious immersion  clearly conscious  in no way is “within the reach of attention”
  • 5. + What is consciousness?  “that which separates dreamless sleep from dreaming” (p. 4) Aside Why not: a state or activity is conscious iff there is something it is like to be in that state or engage in that activity?
  • 6. + What is attention?  “[Attention] is a voluntary act of prioritization by the subject, where “voluntary” is taken to include everything from volitional direction of attention to voluntary acceptance of attention to a stimulus [...] This prioritization is best understood through the concept of resource distribution” (p. 3)
  • 7. + What is attention?  “[Attention] is a voluntary act of prioritization by the subject, where “voluntary” is taken to include everything from volitional direction of attention to voluntary acceptance of attention to a stimulus [...] This prioritization is best understood through the concept of resource distribution” (p. 3) For Carolyn attention is always voluntary!
  • 8. + Some excellent points that could be expanded
  • 9. + Against conscious gist perception  Excellent points!  But maybe some (medium fast) gist perception is both conscious and outside attention? (What do the subjects report?)
  • 10. + Broadening attention beyond the focus  Carolyn: outside the focus of attention ≠ outside the reach of attention  What would show (in perception) that information is not suppressed by attention but outside its reach?
  • 11. + Is attention always voluntary?
  • 12. + It doesn’t seem to!  Sometimes attention is automatically drawn to something against our will.  Sometimes attention drifts aimlessly.
  • 13. + But maybe that’s too fast!  The intentionality criterion for automaticity Attempts by a subject to prevent an automatic process from proceeding are not successful (Yantis and Jonides 1990)
  • 14. + But maybe that’s too fast!  The intentionality criterion for automaticity Attempts by a subject to prevent an automatic process from proceeding are not successful (Yantis and Jonides 1990)
  • 15. + But maybe that’s too fast! Result 1: RT btw. onset and no-onset target does not differ Result 2: onset distractor does not seem to capture attention against the subject’s prior intentions Yantis and Jonides 1990, Figure 3
  • 16. + But maybe that’s too fast!  Tentative conclusions from these and other experiments:  Attention capture is not automatic according to the intentionality criterion  What captures attention and how is contingent on the subject’s goals, intentions and task: contingent capture See also: Folk, Remington and Yet against see: Theeuwes 1991, Johnston 1992; Yantis 1993; Bacon and Theeuwes 1994;Theeuwes 2004; for a Egeth 1994; Yantis and Egeth 1999; (opinionated) review: Theeuwes 2010 Serences et al. 2005; Folk and Remington 2006; Chen and Mordkoff 2007; Ansorge and Horstmann 2007; Kiss et al. 2008; etc.
  • 17. + Distinctions 1. Attention is always directly controlled by the subject. ✖ 2. Attention is always an act that is sensitive to a subject’s goals, intentions, tasks, etc. ✔ 3. Attention is always an act that is under the subject’s voluntary control (p. 3) ✔  ? i.e. the subject can voluntarily control attention (in a sense in which she cannot control, say, what she sees).
  • 18. + Does conscious immersion involve no attention?
  • 19. + Carolyn’s claim  Conscious immersion is a kind of conscious experience that lies beyond the reach of attention.
  • 20. + What is conscious immersion?  "I understand “conscious immersion” to be conscious engrossment in a task, activity, or process that proceeds via unconscious, involuntary control" (p. 20/21)  close to flow consciousness (Csikszentmihalyi)
  • 21. + Flow without attention? The opposite seems true!
  • 22. + A Dancer  "Your concentration is very complete. Your mind isn't wandering, you are not thinking of something else; you are totally involved in what you are doing ....” Csikszentmihaly, Flow, p. 53
  • 23. + A chess player  "... the concentration is like breathing - you never think of it. The roof could fall and, if it missed you, you would be unaware of it” Csikszentmihaly, Flow, p. 53/54
  • 24. + Flow without attention? “The first symptom of flow is a narrowing of attention on a clearly defined goal. We feel involved, concentrated, absorbed.” (Csikszentmihaly, Evolving Self, p. xiii)
  • 25. + Not only Csikszentmihaly!  When absorbed in intellectual attention we may become so inattentive to outer things as to be 'absent-minded,’ [...].” W. James, Principles, p. 418/419
  • 26. + But Carolyn has an argument! 1. Immersion experience is conscious. ✔ 2. Immersion experience is involuntary. 3. Attention is always voluntary. Hence 4. Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
  • 27. + But Carolyn has an argument! 1. Immersion experience is conscious. 2. Immersion experience is involuntary. Ambiguity! 3. Attention is always voluntary. Hence 4. Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
  • 28. + But Carolyn has an argument! 1. Immersion experience is conscious. 2. Immersion experience is not directly controlled ✔ voluntarily. 3. Attention is always directly controlled voluntarily. ✖ Hence 4. Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
  • 29. + But Carolyn has an argument! 1. Immersion experience is conscious. 2. Immersion experience is not directly controlled ✔ voluntarily. 3. Attention is always directly controlled voluntarily. ✖ Hence 4. Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
  • 30. + But Carolyn has an argument! 1. Immersion experience is conscious. 2. Immersion experience is not sensitive to the ✖ subject’s goals, intentions, and tasks. 3. Attention is always sensitive to the subject’s goals, ✔ intentions, and tasks. Hence 4. Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
  • 31. + Csikszentmihaly again ...  “The first symptom of flow is a narrowing of attention on a clearly defined goal. We feel involved, concentrated, absorbed.” (Csikszentmihaly, Evolving Self, p. xiii)  “When goals are clear, feedback relevant, and challenges and skills are in balance, attention becomes ordered and fully invested [...] There is no space in consciousness for distracting thoughts, irrelevant feelings” (Csikszentmihaly, Finding Flow, p. 31)
  • 32. + But Carolyn has an argument! 1. Immersion experience is conscious. 2. Immersion experience is not sensitive to the ✖ subject’s goals, intentions, and tasks. 3. Attention is always sensitive to the subject’s goals, ✔ intentions, and tasks. Hence 4. Immersion is outside the reach of attention.
  • 33. + Another kind of attention
  • 34. + So what is going on?  When immersed or in flow there is a sense in which we do not focus our attention on what we are doing.
  • 35. + So what is going on?  Yet there is also a sense in which our attention is completely focused on what we are doing!
  • 36. + Distinction (from A. White)  Spectator attention  paying attention to what you are doing third-personally  Agent attention  paying attention to what you are doing first-personally  Rough synonyms for agent attention to your own φ-ing:  φ-ing attentively.  concentrating (attention) on φ-ing.
  • 37. + Agent Attention  involves prioritizing some things (what you are doing right now) while suppressing others (your environment, distracting thoughts etc.  is sensitive to the subject’s goals, intention, and plans.  because it is not an activity distinct from the activity you are performing attentively (the activity is a way your attention may be engaged)  is something the subject is doing (in the same way the attentively performed activities are things she is doing)
  • 38. + Claim  In conscious immersion there is  no spectator attention to what what we are doing!  a lot of agent attention to what we are doing!
  • 39. Conclusion + Agent attention might be voluntary and essential for the conscious immersion
  • 40. + The End