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Yammer Groups and Business Value 
Lee Romero 
October 2014 
Does size matter?
Preface 3 
Background 4 
Hypothesis 6 
Data source and methodology 7 
Findings 
•Activity levels 11 
•Responsiveness 16 
•Knowledge impact 18 
•Private vs Public Groups 19 
Summary 21 
Contents 
2
This material has been assembled as part of an informal review of communities at Deloitte 
It presents some insights relating the size of a community to its value 
It does not represent an official Deloitte position 
Preface 
Disclaimer 
3
As part of Deloitte’s Community program, we have long used a health report to help drive desired changes 
That health report considers a number of factors – the goal is to identify specific factors which, if we can effect change, will improve the value of our communities 
One specific factor used is the size of the community 
The rationale has been that, in light of the “90-9-1” principle*, there is a certain minimum size of a community need to reach a critical mass of activity 
Background 
Deloitte’s Community program 
4 
* See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)
As part of our Community program, Deloitte has adopted the use of Yammer as a primary tool of discussion within our communities 
Yammer provides a completely user-driven means to create “groups” – which, roughly speaking, can map to communities 
Following the same logic as our communities, through some moderation of new groups, we have pushed for fewer, larger Yammer groups to increase their value 
Recently, the importance of size of a community / Yammer group has been challenged with the assertion that people are more comfortable and therefore more likely to communicate in a smaller group of people 
Background 
Deloitte’s use of Yammer 
5
I decided to try to address this assertion with data. 
My hypothesis: 
•Larger communities are more likely to be active and vibrant – and, therefore, more likely to deliver business value to Deloitte 
To test this hypothesis, we need to define “value” – which is a hard problem 
So I simplify the problem and assume that the value of a community / group is proportional to the activity within that community / group 
•Certainly, it is true that a community / group with no activity offers no value 
My Hypothesis 
Size does matter 
6
In order to test the hypothesis, I collected data from Deloitte’s global network 
The data included 
•All public messages from July 2012 – April 2013, including: 
−Group 
−Sender 
−Time stamp 
−Threading 
•A listing of all groups as of early June 2013, including: 
−Current group size 
−Create date 
−Summary counts of messages and total posters 
Data source and Methodology 
How to address the hypothesis? 
7
I did not have detailed data about Private groups in our network 
I also did not have access to detailed data on “Likes” or “Shares” of conversations 
For the purposes of the analysis here, I aggregated the data as follows: 
•First, for each group, I averaged measures across months to represent that group 
•In order to aggregate across the groups, I used the size of the group (as of June 2013) and grouped together groups by size 
−Groups are represented by the largest multiple of a power of 10 smaller than its size, though any group smaller than 100 members was grouped into a “0” 
−For example, a group of 250 members is grouped into a 200 range, a group of 1180 members is grouped into a 1000 range 
Data source and Methodology 
Part 2 
8
In order to provide some context on the remaining slides, this chart shows you the number of groups (both private and public groups) for each size grouping 
The Landscape 
Overall view of the landscape 
9 
Group Size 
Public Groups 
Private Groups 
0 
1112 
1178 
100 
223 
67 
200 
81 
22 
300 
42 
8 
400 
33 
5 
500 
18 
2 
600 
17 
3 
700 
7 
1 
800 
2 
2 
900 
4 
2 
1000 
24 
4 
2000 
7 
3000 
4 
4000 
2 
6000 
4 
10000 
1
Findings 
10
Activity Levels by Group Size 
11 
 Number of messages does positively correlate with size of group 
As does the number of distinct posters 
You might notice a relatively low correlation in the data on the last slide – however, if we remove just 4 groups (the four largest in our network) we get this – significantly higher correlation! 
Activity Levels by Group Size 
Another view 
12
Besides raw size, another factor in our health report is a minimum amount of activity (messages) – one message per week 
This chart shows the percent of groups for each size that achieve that minimum 
The impact of size flattens but from this, in order for a group to have a good chance of meeting this minimum, they need to achieve at least 200 members 
Achieving “green community” status 
Minimum activity 
13
So overall activity does correlate with size – is an individual member more or less likely to contribute based on size? 
So in larger groups, it can be harder to get people to post but once someone does post, they will be as active as in any group 
Messages per Member 
14 
Engagement with the community
Similar to messages / member, on a monthly basis, the percentage of members who will post at least once does negatively correlate with size 
Similar to activity in the groups, if you ignore the largest 2 groupings (the four largest groups), once a group is larger than 100 members, this becomes nearly flat at 2.5%-3% 
Percent of members that are active 
How likely is someone to say anything? 
15
Beside pure levels of activity, another important factor is how quickly someone gets a reply – how does that correlate with size? 
Answer: You will in general get an answer faster in a larger group. Faster to get an answer and faster to get value for clients. 
Time for reply 
How long does it take to get an answer? 
16
Besides how quickly you might get a reply, what is the likelihood of getting any reply? 
Not only will you get a reply more quickly, you are more likely to get any reply at all in a larger group 
Likelihood of a reply 
Are you ever going to get a reply? 
17
Another effect of size of a group to consider is the impact on the lurkers in the groups – people who join and read but don’t post 
One way to approximate this impact is with a calculation I call “knowledge flow”* 
Knowledge flow estimates the overall impact on the members 
This shows a very strong correlation with size (note the Y axis is logarithmic!) 
Impact on Lurkers 
What about the silent majority? 
18 
* See http://blog.leeromero.org/2008/11/20/measuring-knowledge-flow-within-a-community-of-practice/
The data I have for private groups is very limited – just total posts and posters and size 
Based on this, though, we can compare the percent of members that are active at each size for public and private groups 
Because large private groups are much fewer in number, the average varies a lot 
However, overall, the likelihood of a member in a private group posting does not appear any different than in a public group 
Private vs. Public groups 
Are people more likely to share in private? 
19
Summary 
20
Based on the insights here, I believe there are a lot of compelling reasons why fewer, larger communities with broader topics provide more business value 
Based on the data, a community manager may want to encourage members to post but once they post, they seem more comfortable in doing so again 
I would encourage you to guide your communities to start broad and go narrow if the community becomes so active as to be overwhelming to newcomers 
What are your thoughts and experiences with regard to this? 
Summary 
Size does Matter! 
21

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Yammer Groups and Business Value - Does size matter?

  • 1. Yammer Groups and Business Value Lee Romero October 2014 Does size matter?
  • 2. Preface 3 Background 4 Hypothesis 6 Data source and methodology 7 Findings •Activity levels 11 •Responsiveness 16 •Knowledge impact 18 •Private vs Public Groups 19 Summary 21 Contents 2
  • 3. This material has been assembled as part of an informal review of communities at Deloitte It presents some insights relating the size of a community to its value It does not represent an official Deloitte position Preface Disclaimer 3
  • 4. As part of Deloitte’s Community program, we have long used a health report to help drive desired changes That health report considers a number of factors – the goal is to identify specific factors which, if we can effect change, will improve the value of our communities One specific factor used is the size of the community The rationale has been that, in light of the “90-9-1” principle*, there is a certain minimum size of a community need to reach a critical mass of activity Background Deloitte’s Community program 4 * See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)
  • 5. As part of our Community program, Deloitte has adopted the use of Yammer as a primary tool of discussion within our communities Yammer provides a completely user-driven means to create “groups” – which, roughly speaking, can map to communities Following the same logic as our communities, through some moderation of new groups, we have pushed for fewer, larger Yammer groups to increase their value Recently, the importance of size of a community / Yammer group has been challenged with the assertion that people are more comfortable and therefore more likely to communicate in a smaller group of people Background Deloitte’s use of Yammer 5
  • 6. I decided to try to address this assertion with data. My hypothesis: •Larger communities are more likely to be active and vibrant – and, therefore, more likely to deliver business value to Deloitte To test this hypothesis, we need to define “value” – which is a hard problem So I simplify the problem and assume that the value of a community / group is proportional to the activity within that community / group •Certainly, it is true that a community / group with no activity offers no value My Hypothesis Size does matter 6
  • 7. In order to test the hypothesis, I collected data from Deloitte’s global network The data included •All public messages from July 2012 – April 2013, including: −Group −Sender −Time stamp −Threading •A listing of all groups as of early June 2013, including: −Current group size −Create date −Summary counts of messages and total posters Data source and Methodology How to address the hypothesis? 7
  • 8. I did not have detailed data about Private groups in our network I also did not have access to detailed data on “Likes” or “Shares” of conversations For the purposes of the analysis here, I aggregated the data as follows: •First, for each group, I averaged measures across months to represent that group •In order to aggregate across the groups, I used the size of the group (as of June 2013) and grouped together groups by size −Groups are represented by the largest multiple of a power of 10 smaller than its size, though any group smaller than 100 members was grouped into a “0” −For example, a group of 250 members is grouped into a 200 range, a group of 1180 members is grouped into a 1000 range Data source and Methodology Part 2 8
  • 9. In order to provide some context on the remaining slides, this chart shows you the number of groups (both private and public groups) for each size grouping The Landscape Overall view of the landscape 9 Group Size Public Groups Private Groups 0 1112 1178 100 223 67 200 81 22 300 42 8 400 33 5 500 18 2 600 17 3 700 7 1 800 2 2 900 4 2 1000 24 4 2000 7 3000 4 4000 2 6000 4 10000 1
  • 11. Activity Levels by Group Size 11  Number of messages does positively correlate with size of group As does the number of distinct posters 
  • 12. You might notice a relatively low correlation in the data on the last slide – however, if we remove just 4 groups (the four largest in our network) we get this – significantly higher correlation! Activity Levels by Group Size Another view 12
  • 13. Besides raw size, another factor in our health report is a minimum amount of activity (messages) – one message per week This chart shows the percent of groups for each size that achieve that minimum The impact of size flattens but from this, in order for a group to have a good chance of meeting this minimum, they need to achieve at least 200 members Achieving “green community” status Minimum activity 13
  • 14. So overall activity does correlate with size – is an individual member more or less likely to contribute based on size? So in larger groups, it can be harder to get people to post but once someone does post, they will be as active as in any group Messages per Member 14 Engagement with the community
  • 15. Similar to messages / member, on a monthly basis, the percentage of members who will post at least once does negatively correlate with size Similar to activity in the groups, if you ignore the largest 2 groupings (the four largest groups), once a group is larger than 100 members, this becomes nearly flat at 2.5%-3% Percent of members that are active How likely is someone to say anything? 15
  • 16. Beside pure levels of activity, another important factor is how quickly someone gets a reply – how does that correlate with size? Answer: You will in general get an answer faster in a larger group. Faster to get an answer and faster to get value for clients. Time for reply How long does it take to get an answer? 16
  • 17. Besides how quickly you might get a reply, what is the likelihood of getting any reply? Not only will you get a reply more quickly, you are more likely to get any reply at all in a larger group Likelihood of a reply Are you ever going to get a reply? 17
  • 18. Another effect of size of a group to consider is the impact on the lurkers in the groups – people who join and read but don’t post One way to approximate this impact is with a calculation I call “knowledge flow”* Knowledge flow estimates the overall impact on the members This shows a very strong correlation with size (note the Y axis is logarithmic!) Impact on Lurkers What about the silent majority? 18 * See http://blog.leeromero.org/2008/11/20/measuring-knowledge-flow-within-a-community-of-practice/
  • 19. The data I have for private groups is very limited – just total posts and posters and size Based on this, though, we can compare the percent of members that are active at each size for public and private groups Because large private groups are much fewer in number, the average varies a lot However, overall, the likelihood of a member in a private group posting does not appear any different than in a public group Private vs. Public groups Are people more likely to share in private? 19
  • 21. Based on the insights here, I believe there are a lot of compelling reasons why fewer, larger communities with broader topics provide more business value Based on the data, a community manager may want to encourage members to post but once they post, they seem more comfortable in doing so again I would encourage you to guide your communities to start broad and go narrow if the community becomes so active as to be overwhelming to newcomers What are your thoughts and experiences with regard to this? Summary Size does Matter! 21