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Lesson 3 Beware of Greeks (and Romans) Bearing Gifts – Part 2
10/25/15 1© John R. Wible
Paul – Roman Citizen - Addendum
10/25/15© John R. Wible 2
Senatus Populus Que Romanus
Roman Timeline 753 BC to AD 67
10/25/15© John R. Wible 3
753 BC
Rome
Founded
509 BC
Republic
Founded
149 BC Rome
Conquers
Greece
63 BC
Jerusalem
Falls to Rome
54 BC Julius
Caesar (First
Caesar)
44 BC Julius
Caesar
Assassinated
27 BC End of
Republic –
Begin Empire
Caesar
Augustus
4 BC Birth of
Jesus the
Christ
14 AD Augustus
Dies – Tiberius
Becomes
Emperor
28/29 AD
Jesus’
Passion
37 AD
Caligula
Becomes
Emperor
54 AD Nero
Becomes
Emperor
64 AD Rome
Burns
Christians
blamed
67 AD
Paul
Beheaded
4 AD
Birth of
Paul
29 AD
Church
Founded
Roman Timeline 753 BC
10/25/15© John R. Wible 4
753 BC
Rome
Founded
509 BC
Rome
Republic
Founded
149 BC
Rome
Defeats
Greece,
Battle of
Corinth
54 BC
First
Caesar
Julius
•Political influence of the Romans
•Cultural and intellectual influence of
the Greeks
•Religious influence of the Jews
•Result: by 312 AD, 10% of Roman
World is Christian
10/25/15 5© John R. Wible
Early Rise of Christianity – Causes
• Unity and Diversity
• Pax Romana (Peace)
• Roman Army
• Roman Roads
• Roman Conquest
10/25/15 6© John R. Wible
Roman Influence – Political
• Incorporation of Greek Language
and Cultural Influence
• Incorporation of Greek Philosophy
• Source: George Mason University
10/25/15 7© John R. Wible
Rome’s Greek Influence on Christianity
Paul, the Greek Influences
10/25/15© John R. Wible 8
Greek Religion Before “the Seven Sages”
10/25/15© John R. Wible 9
Greek Philosophers – 470-322 BC
10/25/15© John R. Wible 10
•Socrates
•Plato
•Aristotle
Socrates (470/469 – 399 BC)
10/25/15© John R. Wible 11
Que
• Socratic > Scientific Method
• Questioning an hypothesis
Why
• Existence > function
• Thing exists because it has function
gods
• God (g) arranges all for the best
• Probably a polytheist, divine fatalist
Ethics
• Ethicist – Do the right, not the Expedient
• Founder of:
Western Religion
• Hypothesized Spirituality
• Two realities:
physical & “shadows”
• Physical world mirrors
the spiritual
• Two heresies:
asceticism & hedonism
10/25/15 12© John R. Wible
Plato (428/427 or 424/423 – 348/347 BC)
• Creator – God
(however, subject “the Good”)
• Truth and Morality are absolute
(however, they exist outside God)
• The unseen reality is of greater import
(however, “dualism” denies the goodness
of the Creation)
• Immorality of the soul (however, Plato
recognized “reincarnation”)
• Materialism is the great enemy (however,
the body is not a prison, as in dualism)
10/25/15 13© John R. Wible
Platonism, a “Bridge” to Christianity
1. God is supreme, not subject to the
greater “Good.” God is good and
“the Good.” Christianity’s God is
infinite and “Omni-supreme”
2. God created all things good – they fell
3. The body was created good and has
value, it is not a prison, it will be
perfected, not discarded
10/25/15 14© John R. Wible
Plato’s Underlying Difference with Christianity
• Tutor of Alexander the Great
• Raised on Platonic dualism but
changed to “”empiricism”
• Knowledge is based on perception
• Father of logical reasoning and
gaining knowledge by observation of
natural science
10/25/15 15© John R. Wible
Aristotle (384 – 322 BC)
• People of color were
naturally destined to be slaves
– Rome, later was 50% slave
• Paul attacks idea directly, indirectly
– See Galatians 3:27 and 28
– Galatians 4:6 and 7
– Philemon VV. 15-18
10/25/15 16© John R. Wible
Aristotle and Slavery
“When . . . it becomes
necessary for one people
to dissolve the political
bands which have
connected them . . . to
which the Laws of Nature
and of Nature's God
entitle them . . .
10/25/15 17© John R. Wible
American Heritage Hangover
Declaration of Independence
• Based in materialism
• Denigrated the “gods”
• “The Epicurean Paradox”
• Pleasure the greatest good
• Led to Hedonism – “do as you want”
• Early challenger to Platonism
• Later, main opponent of Stoicism
10/25/15 18© John R. Wible
Epicureanism – Epicurus (circa. 307 BC)
10/25/15 19© John R. Wible
Skepticism - Pyrrho of Elis (365–275 BC)
10/25/15 20© John R. Wible
Alexander the Great’s Empire (356-323 BC)
10/25/15 21© John R. Wible
After Alexander – Circa. 323 BC
• Probably most influential on Paul
• Taught in Tarsus by Athenodorus, and
• Athenodorus taught Caesar Augustus, thus
• Adopted by Roman Empire
• Rejected Plato's and Aristotle's “form”
• Invented the principle of reality with the
Logos, Reason, or God
• Determinists, fatalists, practical, ethical
10/25/15 22© John R. Wible
Zeno and Stoicism - (334 – c. 262 BC)
• Materialistic vs God-centered
• Pantheistic vs monotheistic
• Invented the “Logos,” the creative
force in the universe
• Both highly moral
• Stoicism absolutely determinist while
• Christianity has complex idea of God’s
influence in events
10/25/15 23© John R. Wible
Stoicism vs Christianity
• Paul’s Mars Hill Speech quotes Stoic poet,
Aratus of Soli in Cilicia (Note Cilicia)
• See Acts 17:18 and 23
• Audience were Stoics and Epicureans
• The “mockers” were Epicureans
• Doctrines of creation, divine immanence,
spirituality and fatherhood of God, would
be familiar and acceptable to Stoics
• Preaching on Christ, not so much
10/25/15 24© John R. Wible
Paul and the Stoics
10/25/15 25© John R. Wible
Paul at Mars Hill
Let’s Pray About It
10/25/15 26© John R. Wible© John R. Wible

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Paul.lesson.7.rome.greek

  • 1. Lesson 3 Beware of Greeks (and Romans) Bearing Gifts – Part 2 10/25/15 1© John R. Wible
  • 2. Paul – Roman Citizen - Addendum 10/25/15© John R. Wible 2 Senatus Populus Que Romanus
  • 3. Roman Timeline 753 BC to AD 67 10/25/15© John R. Wible 3 753 BC Rome Founded 509 BC Republic Founded 149 BC Rome Conquers Greece 63 BC Jerusalem Falls to Rome 54 BC Julius Caesar (First Caesar) 44 BC Julius Caesar Assassinated 27 BC End of Republic – Begin Empire Caesar Augustus 4 BC Birth of Jesus the Christ 14 AD Augustus Dies – Tiberius Becomes Emperor 28/29 AD Jesus’ Passion 37 AD Caligula Becomes Emperor 54 AD Nero Becomes Emperor 64 AD Rome Burns Christians blamed 67 AD Paul Beheaded 4 AD Birth of Paul 29 AD Church Founded
  • 4. Roman Timeline 753 BC 10/25/15© John R. Wible 4 753 BC Rome Founded 509 BC Rome Republic Founded 149 BC Rome Defeats Greece, Battle of Corinth 54 BC First Caesar Julius
  • 5. •Political influence of the Romans •Cultural and intellectual influence of the Greeks •Religious influence of the Jews •Result: by 312 AD, 10% of Roman World is Christian 10/25/15 5© John R. Wible Early Rise of Christianity – Causes
  • 6. • Unity and Diversity • Pax Romana (Peace) • Roman Army • Roman Roads • Roman Conquest 10/25/15 6© John R. Wible Roman Influence – Political
  • 7. • Incorporation of Greek Language and Cultural Influence • Incorporation of Greek Philosophy • Source: George Mason University 10/25/15 7© John R. Wible Rome’s Greek Influence on Christianity
  • 8. Paul, the Greek Influences 10/25/15© John R. Wible 8
  • 9. Greek Religion Before “the Seven Sages” 10/25/15© John R. Wible 9
  • 10. Greek Philosophers – 470-322 BC 10/25/15© John R. Wible 10 •Socrates •Plato •Aristotle
  • 11. Socrates (470/469 – 399 BC) 10/25/15© John R. Wible 11 Que • Socratic > Scientific Method • Questioning an hypothesis Why • Existence > function • Thing exists because it has function gods • God (g) arranges all for the best • Probably a polytheist, divine fatalist Ethics • Ethicist – Do the right, not the Expedient
  • 12. • Founder of: Western Religion • Hypothesized Spirituality • Two realities: physical & “shadows” • Physical world mirrors the spiritual • Two heresies: asceticism & hedonism 10/25/15 12© John R. Wible Plato (428/427 or 424/423 – 348/347 BC)
  • 13. • Creator – God (however, subject “the Good”) • Truth and Morality are absolute (however, they exist outside God) • The unseen reality is of greater import (however, “dualism” denies the goodness of the Creation) • Immorality of the soul (however, Plato recognized “reincarnation”) • Materialism is the great enemy (however, the body is not a prison, as in dualism) 10/25/15 13© John R. Wible Platonism, a “Bridge” to Christianity
  • 14. 1. God is supreme, not subject to the greater “Good.” God is good and “the Good.” Christianity’s God is infinite and “Omni-supreme” 2. God created all things good – they fell 3. The body was created good and has value, it is not a prison, it will be perfected, not discarded 10/25/15 14© John R. Wible Plato’s Underlying Difference with Christianity
  • 15. • Tutor of Alexander the Great • Raised on Platonic dualism but changed to “”empiricism” • Knowledge is based on perception • Father of logical reasoning and gaining knowledge by observation of natural science 10/25/15 15© John R. Wible Aristotle (384 – 322 BC)
  • 16. • People of color were naturally destined to be slaves – Rome, later was 50% slave • Paul attacks idea directly, indirectly – See Galatians 3:27 and 28 – Galatians 4:6 and 7 – Philemon VV. 15-18 10/25/15 16© John R. Wible Aristotle and Slavery
  • 17. “When . . . it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them . . . to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them . . . 10/25/15 17© John R. Wible American Heritage Hangover Declaration of Independence
  • 18. • Based in materialism • Denigrated the “gods” • “The Epicurean Paradox” • Pleasure the greatest good • Led to Hedonism – “do as you want” • Early challenger to Platonism • Later, main opponent of Stoicism 10/25/15 18© John R. Wible Epicureanism – Epicurus (circa. 307 BC)
  • 19. 10/25/15 19© John R. Wible Skepticism - Pyrrho of Elis (365–275 BC)
  • 20. 10/25/15 20© John R. Wible Alexander the Great’s Empire (356-323 BC)
  • 21. 10/25/15 21© John R. Wible After Alexander – Circa. 323 BC
  • 22. • Probably most influential on Paul • Taught in Tarsus by Athenodorus, and • Athenodorus taught Caesar Augustus, thus • Adopted by Roman Empire • Rejected Plato's and Aristotle's “form” • Invented the principle of reality with the Logos, Reason, or God • Determinists, fatalists, practical, ethical 10/25/15 22© John R. Wible Zeno and Stoicism - (334 – c. 262 BC)
  • 23. • Materialistic vs God-centered • Pantheistic vs monotheistic • Invented the “Logos,” the creative force in the universe • Both highly moral • Stoicism absolutely determinist while • Christianity has complex idea of God’s influence in events 10/25/15 23© John R. Wible Stoicism vs Christianity
  • 24. • Paul’s Mars Hill Speech quotes Stoic poet, Aratus of Soli in Cilicia (Note Cilicia) • See Acts 17:18 and 23 • Audience were Stoics and Epicureans • The “mockers” were Epicureans • Doctrines of creation, divine immanence, spirituality and fatherhood of God, would be familiar and acceptable to Stoics • Preaching on Christ, not so much 10/25/15 24© John R. Wible Paul and the Stoics
  • 25. 10/25/15 25© John R. Wible Paul at Mars Hill
  • 26. Let’s Pray About It 10/25/15 26© John R. Wible© John R. Wible