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Screening for Distress versus
Providing Supportive Care: Avoiding
a Conflict

4e Nationaal Congres Palliatieve Zorg
         Lunteren, NL 14-16 Nov 2012

               James C. Coyne, Ph.D.
 Department of Psychiatry, University of
                         Pennsylvania
 Health Psychology Program, University
                          of Groningen
We would all like patients
  with advanced cancer to
 feel that they can talk to a
  healthcare professional
about their concerns without
 feeling guilty about taking
 up the professional’s time.
We would all like patients with advanced
cancer to have better management of their
  symptoms and better understanding of
    what is possible in their personal
             circumstances.
Advanced cancer patients are not receiving
the help they need.
Large proportions of patients were burdened
by symptoms/problems.

Of those who had received help, many
viewed it as inadequate.

                        Better symptom/problem
                        identification and
                        management is warranted
                        for advanced cancer
                        patients.
Efforts to marshal the resources and
personnel to address the needs of cancer
      patients can have unintended
consequences, particularly when they are
undertaken in dysfunctional systems with
           perverse incentives.
Developments in North
      America:

Will they spread to the
     Netherlands?
An American woman Susan Krantz,
received national news attention when she
complained about her physician charging
her $50 for her having asked questions
during her annual physical.
Her insurance company paid her physician
for the physical, but not for answering her
questions.

She had not been warned of the extra
charge ahead of time.
Analysis
Talking to patients as a (billable) procedure.

Conversations with the meter running.

“We’re not paid to solve
patients’ problems, we are
paid to do procedures.”
American healthcare system staffed by
professionals financed by fees for service,
not guaranteed salaries.
Professionals are paid for doing procedures,
not engage in cognitive processes like
having conversations and solving problems.
Patients who have
unmet needs to have
   their problems
  solved are given
 more procedures.
Monitoring screening for distress with
quality indicators.


Pfizer gives $10 million grant to American
psychologist to develop quality indicators to
monitor oncologists’ screening for distress.
Oncologists cannot close their medical records
without indicating whether they have asked a
patient about distress.
Oncologists must indicate what action was taken if
a patient report being distressed.
Oncologists can comply with quality indicators by
asking simply “you feeling depressed?” and
prescribing antidepressants to patients who
answer “yes” without formal diagnosis, patient
education, or follow-up.
A significant proportion of breast
  cancer patients in the United
    States are prescribed an
  antidepressant without ever
   having a two weeks mood
     disturbance in their life.
NonMDs             1




 Other MDS         2

  Psychiatrists    3
     Oncologists   4
         God       5
“To screen or not to screen?”
“To screen or not to screen?”




The answer is complex, and depends on the
goals, existing resources in a setting, and the
readiness of that setting to accommodate the
effects of introducing screening, intended and
unintended.
Promise of screening

Cheap, quick.

With touch screen, can be integrated into routine
care in almost mechanical fashion.

Identifies distress and depression that would
otherwise be undetected.

Uncovers unmet needs.

Gives voice to otherwise silent or unheard
persons in need.
Promise of screening


Scores are ambiguous as to what needs to be done.

Requires follow up to resolve positive screens, involving
staff and patient time and resources.

Many needs that are identified will not have standard or
ready solutions.

Clinical need is not equivalent to interest in or readiness to
accept services.
Implementation of screening
Has not been shown to improve patient
 outcomes.
Involves reworking of pathways from patients
  to psychosocial services.
Involves reconceptualization of provision of
  support in terms of billable procedures or
  “sessions” with professionals.
Has unintended consequences including
 forcing the cancer experience into the mold
 of a mental health issue.
Raffle, A and Gray, M. (2007). Screening:
Evidence and Practice. Oxford Press.




Screening must be delivered in a well functioning
total system if it is to achieve the best chance of
maximum benefit and minimum harm. The system
needs to include everything from the identification of
those to be invited right through to follow-up after
intervention for those found to have a problem.
Current Dutch practices do not comply
with proposed international guidelines for
          mandated screening.
Detection of Need for Care Guideline:
Discussions following completion of the
               Lastmeter
Viva les Dutch!

 The last time I checked, the Dutch were
still talking to every patient who wished to
talk, even those who were not distressed.
What screening is not

Definition excludes settings in which patients
  complete screening items or questionnaires
  and their responses are then used to structure
  discussions with professionals or peer
  counselors, regardless of whether the patients
  meet pre-established thresholds for distress.

Definition excludes situations in which a
 questionnaire is used to facilitate a
 conversation independent of patients’ level of
 distress.
The basic comparative evaluation
of screening:

All patients screened for distress. Patients
screening positive according to some set criteria
receive a follow up interview, in which nature of
distress is evaluated, and a service is provided or a
referral is made.
                        versus
Patients are informed about same services and
have ready access to them by self-referral or
clinician referral without regard to level of distress.
The Basic Comparative Evaluation of
Screening

   All patients screened for distress. Patients
    screening positive according to some set criteria
    receive a follow up interview, in which nature of
    distress is evaluated, and a service is provided or
    a referral is made.
Versus
   Patients are informed about same services and
    have ready access to them by self-referral or
    clinician referral without regard to level of distress.
No study has ever shown that patients
 screened for distressed have better
 outcomes than patients having the
same access to discussions with staff
and services without being screened.
Screening for distress
 should be cautiously
recommended for well
resourced settings, not
      mandated!

   Be prepared for on
intended consequences.
Alternatives to screening



Enhanced support, access to services, and follow
up for patients already known to be distressed or
socially disadvantaged.

Provide ready access for patients to discuss
unmet needs with professional and peer
counselors regardless of level of distress.

Increase resources for addressing health
disparities in access to psychosocial services.
Alternatives to screening



Give patients time to talk and listen to them, don't
let screening for distress get in the way.

Don't require cancer patients to interact through
computer touch screen assessments.

Do give them the opportunity to talk about their
experiences, their needs, their concerns, and their
preferences regardless of their level of distress.
Implementing screening for distress
involves adopting a distress paradigm
for supportive services that will have
unintended consequences.
Should the services we provide to cancer
  patients be required to be evidence-
                 based?
Of course.

We need to ensure quality
services that will improve
patient outcomes.

Patients with advanced cancer
are often dissatisfied with the
effectiveness of services they
receive.
Of course not.

Many patients seeking services
are not distressed and so
cannot register an
improvement.

Many patients do not seek
services in order to resolve
distress.
Compared to what?

Almost all claims of being “evidence-based”
services are based on comparisons to wait list
and no treatment.

Providing evidence-based treatments requires
training, credentialing, and billing.

The unanswered question whether most patients
need more than focused attention, support, and
feedback.
Should patients have free
   access to yoga?

 Should patients have
access to yoga if it is not
 shown to reduce their
       distress?
A struggle over who should deal with
          spiritual issues?
Should psychiatrists conduct that spiritual
histories?
Should psychiatrists bill for doing meaning-
centered, spiritually oriented
psychotherapy?
Should pastoral counselors talk about
spiritual issues without mental health
credentialing?
Many patient concerns can be addressed
with information, support and attention, and
follow up.

Fewer patients need more specialized
services, but they should have access to
them, and the services should be evidence
based.
Resolution



We need to distinguish between patients
getting the routine supportive services they
need and getting more specialized, intensive
treatments that should
beevidence-based.
Rogers A, Karlsen S, Addington-Hall J 'All the
services were excellent. It is when the human
element comes in that things go wrong':
Dissatisfaction with hospital care in the last year
of life. J Advanced Nursing 31 (4): 768-774 2000


Examined causes of dissatisfaction with hospital-based
care. At least one negative comment was made by 59% of
those making any comment. Qualitative analysis of
responses to open questions suggest that expressions of
dissatisfaction arise from a sense of being 'devalued',
'dehumanized' or 'disempowered' and from situations in
which the 'rules' governing the expected health
professional-patient relationships were broken.
Alternatives to screening

 • Enhanced support, access to services, and
follow up for patients already known to be
distressed or socially disadvantaged.
• Provide ready access for patients to discuss
unmet needs with professional and peer
counselors regardless of level of distress.
• Increase resources for addressing health
disparities in access to psychosocial services.
Thank you!

jcoynester@gmail.com

 Follow me onTwitter
 @CoyneoftheRealm

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Screening for Distress versus Providing Supportive Care: Avoiding a Conflict

  • 1. Screening for Distress versus Providing Supportive Care: Avoiding a Conflict 4e Nationaal Congres Palliatieve Zorg Lunteren, NL 14-16 Nov 2012 James C. Coyne, Ph.D. Department of Psychiatry, University of Pennsylvania Health Psychology Program, University of Groningen
  • 2. We would all like patients with advanced cancer to feel that they can talk to a healthcare professional about their concerns without feeling guilty about taking up the professional’s time.
  • 3. We would all like patients with advanced cancer to have better management of their symptoms and better understanding of what is possible in their personal circumstances.
  • 4.
  • 5. Advanced cancer patients are not receiving the help they need. Large proportions of patients were burdened by symptoms/problems. Of those who had received help, many viewed it as inadequate. Better symptom/problem identification and management is warranted for advanced cancer patients.
  • 6. Efforts to marshal the resources and personnel to address the needs of cancer patients can have unintended consequences, particularly when they are undertaken in dysfunctional systems with perverse incentives.
  • 7. Developments in North America: Will they spread to the Netherlands?
  • 8. An American woman Susan Krantz, received national news attention when she complained about her physician charging her $50 for her having asked questions during her annual physical.
  • 9. Her insurance company paid her physician for the physical, but not for answering her questions. She had not been warned of the extra charge ahead of time.
  • 11. Talking to patients as a (billable) procedure. Conversations with the meter running. “We’re not paid to solve patients’ problems, we are paid to do procedures.”
  • 12. American healthcare system staffed by professionals financed by fees for service, not guaranteed salaries. Professionals are paid for doing procedures, not engage in cognitive processes like having conversations and solving problems.
  • 13. Patients who have unmet needs to have their problems solved are given more procedures.
  • 14. Monitoring screening for distress with quality indicators. Pfizer gives $10 million grant to American psychologist to develop quality indicators to monitor oncologists’ screening for distress.
  • 15. Oncologists cannot close their medical records without indicating whether they have asked a patient about distress. Oncologists must indicate what action was taken if a patient report being distressed. Oncologists can comply with quality indicators by asking simply “you feeling depressed?” and prescribing antidepressants to patients who answer “yes” without formal diagnosis, patient education, or follow-up.
  • 16. A significant proportion of breast cancer patients in the United States are prescribed an antidepressant without ever having a two weeks mood disturbance in their life.
  • 17. NonMDs 1 Other MDS 2 Psychiatrists 3 Oncologists 4 God 5
  • 18. “To screen or not to screen?”
  • 19. “To screen or not to screen?” The answer is complex, and depends on the goals, existing resources in a setting, and the readiness of that setting to accommodate the effects of introducing screening, intended and unintended.
  • 20. Promise of screening Cheap, quick. With touch screen, can be integrated into routine care in almost mechanical fashion. Identifies distress and depression that would otherwise be undetected. Uncovers unmet needs. Gives voice to otherwise silent or unheard persons in need.
  • 21. Promise of screening Scores are ambiguous as to what needs to be done. Requires follow up to resolve positive screens, involving staff and patient time and resources. Many needs that are identified will not have standard or ready solutions. Clinical need is not equivalent to interest in or readiness to accept services.
  • 22. Implementation of screening Has not been shown to improve patient outcomes. Involves reworking of pathways from patients to psychosocial services. Involves reconceptualization of provision of support in terms of billable procedures or “sessions” with professionals. Has unintended consequences including forcing the cancer experience into the mold of a mental health issue.
  • 23.
  • 24. Raffle, A and Gray, M. (2007). Screening: Evidence and Practice. Oxford Press. Screening must be delivered in a well functioning total system if it is to achieve the best chance of maximum benefit and minimum harm. The system needs to include everything from the identification of those to be invited right through to follow-up after intervention for those found to have a problem.
  • 25. Current Dutch practices do not comply with proposed international guidelines for mandated screening.
  • 26. Detection of Need for Care Guideline: Discussions following completion of the Lastmeter
  • 27. Viva les Dutch! The last time I checked, the Dutch were still talking to every patient who wished to talk, even those who were not distressed.
  • 28. What screening is not Definition excludes settings in which patients complete screening items or questionnaires and their responses are then used to structure discussions with professionals or peer counselors, regardless of whether the patients meet pre-established thresholds for distress. Definition excludes situations in which a questionnaire is used to facilitate a conversation independent of patients’ level of distress.
  • 29. The basic comparative evaluation of screening: All patients screened for distress. Patients screening positive according to some set criteria receive a follow up interview, in which nature of distress is evaluated, and a service is provided or a referral is made. versus Patients are informed about same services and have ready access to them by self-referral or clinician referral without regard to level of distress.
  • 30. The Basic Comparative Evaluation of Screening  All patients screened for distress. Patients screening positive according to some set criteria receive a follow up interview, in which nature of distress is evaluated, and a service is provided or a referral is made. Versus  Patients are informed about same services and have ready access to them by self-referral or clinician referral without regard to level of distress.
  • 31. No study has ever shown that patients screened for distressed have better outcomes than patients having the same access to discussions with staff and services without being screened.
  • 32. Screening for distress should be cautiously recommended for well resourced settings, not mandated! Be prepared for on intended consequences.
  • 33. Alternatives to screening Enhanced support, access to services, and follow up for patients already known to be distressed or socially disadvantaged. Provide ready access for patients to discuss unmet needs with professional and peer counselors regardless of level of distress. Increase resources for addressing health disparities in access to psychosocial services.
  • 34. Alternatives to screening Give patients time to talk and listen to them, don't let screening for distress get in the way. Don't require cancer patients to interact through computer touch screen assessments. Do give them the opportunity to talk about their experiences, their needs, their concerns, and their preferences regardless of their level of distress.
  • 35. Implementing screening for distress involves adopting a distress paradigm for supportive services that will have unintended consequences.
  • 36. Should the services we provide to cancer patients be required to be evidence- based?
  • 37. Of course. We need to ensure quality services that will improve patient outcomes. Patients with advanced cancer are often dissatisfied with the effectiveness of services they receive.
  • 38. Of course not. Many patients seeking services are not distressed and so cannot register an improvement. Many patients do not seek services in order to resolve distress.
  • 39. Compared to what? Almost all claims of being “evidence-based” services are based on comparisons to wait list and no treatment. Providing evidence-based treatments requires training, credentialing, and billing. The unanswered question whether most patients need more than focused attention, support, and feedback.
  • 40. Should patients have free access to yoga? Should patients have access to yoga if it is not shown to reduce their distress?
  • 41. A struggle over who should deal with spiritual issues?
  • 42. Should psychiatrists conduct that spiritual histories? Should psychiatrists bill for doing meaning- centered, spiritually oriented psychotherapy? Should pastoral counselors talk about spiritual issues without mental health credentialing?
  • 43. Many patient concerns can be addressed with information, support and attention, and follow up. Fewer patients need more specialized services, but they should have access to them, and the services should be evidence based.
  • 44. Resolution We need to distinguish between patients getting the routine supportive services they need and getting more specialized, intensive treatments that should beevidence-based.
  • 45. Rogers A, Karlsen S, Addington-Hall J 'All the services were excellent. It is when the human element comes in that things go wrong': Dissatisfaction with hospital care in the last year of life. J Advanced Nursing 31 (4): 768-774 2000 Examined causes of dissatisfaction with hospital-based care. At least one negative comment was made by 59% of those making any comment. Qualitative analysis of responses to open questions suggest that expressions of dissatisfaction arise from a sense of being 'devalued', 'dehumanized' or 'disempowered' and from situations in which the 'rules' governing the expected health professional-patient relationships were broken.
  • 46. Alternatives to screening • Enhanced support, access to services, and follow up for patients already known to be distressed or socially disadvantaged. • Provide ready access for patients to discuss unmet needs with professional and peer counselors regardless of level of distress. • Increase resources for addressing health disparities in access to psychosocial services.
  • 47. Thank you! jcoynester@gmail.com Follow me onTwitter @CoyneoftheRealm