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Multi-­‐Family	
  Roundtable	
  
November	
  10,	
  2010	
  
Question	
  and	
  Answer	
  Session	
  
Roundtable	
  Discussion	
  Leaders:	
  
Alan	
  Kolar-­‐	
  Mill	
  Creek	
  Residential	
  Trust,	
  LLC	
  
Gregg	
  Logan-­‐	
  RCLCO	
  -­‐	
  Robert	
  Charles	
  Lesser	
  
Randy	
  Anderson-­‐	
  UCF	
  	
  
Daryl	
  Spradley-­‐	
  Charles	
  Wayne	
  
Stephanie	
  Brown-­‐	
  Riverstone	
  Residential	
  
Discussion	
  Questions:	
  

QUESTION:	
  	
  

“Two	
  demographic	
  groups	
  with	
  increasing	
  influence	
  are	
  the	
  Generation	
  Y	
  (born	
  
between	
  1981	
  and	
  1999)	
  and	
  WINKs	
  (Women	
  with	
  Incomes	
  and	
  No	
  Kids).	
  	
  How	
  will	
  
these	
  two	
  groups	
  impact	
  the	
  multifamily	
  industry	
  in	
  Orlando?”	
  
     GREGG: “Gen Y First - WINK are a subset of Gen Y so let me address Gen Y First.
          i) 78,000,000 Gen Y nationally (1981 to 2000)
               (1) Between 2008 and 2020 57 million will reach age 22, beginning of prime
                   rental age
               (2) So far, more are going in to existing rental properties, renovated properties
                   and some in new but non-luxury properties due to issues of affordability.
                   Also competition with condo’s and other properties available for rent due
                   to over-supply on the for-sale side.
               (3) Have been hit hard by the economy – many have moved back home with
                   mom and dad, and those in apartments have at least one roommate, often
                   more; as economy improves and they “Un-Pack” this will have a very
                   positive impact on rental demand.
                     (a) So far due to economy, Gen Y’s not yet having the impact we expect.
                         But it’s coming.
               (4) Long term demand looks very good in terms of demand for new product,
                   for the next 10 years
               (5) Central Florida, about 677,752, age 10 to 29 currently; they enter the
                   market over a 19 year period, so it’s a sizeable impact that should equate
                   to demand for over 10,000 units annually on average
                     (a) Of those of rental age, fairly split between urban and suburban areas
(b) Our research has shown strong interest in places with urban amenities
                          among this group, BUT important to note that they split about
                          60%/40% in terms of urban versus suburban preference
                           (i) The point is MORE Urban demand than in the past, but lots of
                               demand for Suburban in the right locations, ie close to restaurants
                               and shopping and employment – they want to live where the action
                               is, which is mitigated by what they can afford – right now they are
                               making compromises due to what they can afford.
                           (ii) They do like walkable places over driveable, mixed-use areas
                                versus single use.
                           (iii)Smaller better designed units and strong amenities – fitness
                                centers, social pool area, internet café, gaming rooms.

QUESTION:	
  

“WINK’s	
  Women	
  Income	
  No	
  Kids,	
  in	
  their	
  20’s,	
  well	
  educated,	
  typically	
  earning	
  over	
  
$50,000,	
  what’s	
  their	
  influence	
  likely	
  to	
  be?”	
  
           GREGG:
           ii) Delaying marriage, renter by choice, like walkable neighborhoods, accepting
               of smaller but nicer; want security
           iii) Care about your “Green Initiatives” even if they’re not going to pay you a
                premium for them.
           iv) Work life balance is especially important to them – want convenience.
           v) Like things like fitness centers, quiet sitting areasa, libraries, that you have a
              recycling center on site
           vi) Somewhat more urban and/or urban suburban oriented than Gen Y overall.
           vii) Select the property first, then the unit itself.
           viii) There are 423,000 Gen Y women in Orlando MSA; about 296,000 are
                potentially WINKS, childless and not married; that’s not income qualified.


QUESTION:	
  

“There	
  has	
  been	
  a	
  lot	
  of	
  focus	
  on	
  sustainable	
  design	
  and	
  “green	
  living”	
  by	
  the	
  media	
  
and	
  local	
  municipalities.	
  	
  How	
  important	
  are	
  “green	
  features”	
  in	
  apartment	
  homes	
  for	
  
renters?	
  	
  What	
  are	
  the	
  desired	
  features,	
  amenities	
  and	
  pricing	
  in	
  new	
  apartment	
  
product?”	
  
           ix) GREGG:
           x) We did a national survey of Renters, and 45% told us that they care about the
              environment and will take actions and spend money to protect it.
xi) However in terms of what drives them to rent an apartment, Cost, Safety, Unit
    Features and Design, Proximity to Work, Proximity to Shopping and
    Entertainment, score a lot higher than “Green” features or attributes.
xii) Only about 37% of renters connect their home with something that impacts
     the Environment, and therefore their choice about where to live. However,
     about 20% of renters say they’re interested in renting a “Green” apartment if
     they can find one. Younger renters in particular less likely to pay for
     environmental compatibility.
xiii) We looked at “Me” Green versus “We Green” in a large survey of renters
     sponsors by several large Apartment Developers nationall. We found that “We
     green” components influence choice of community and length of stay for less
     than 15% of renters
xiv) “Me” Green includes Energy Savings - Energy-savings may influence
    choice of community for 25% of renters, but less than 10% of renters willing
    to pay more for an energy saving community
xv) Almost 20% of renters willing to pay more for a community that provides
    better indoor air quality
xvi) LEED may be industry standard for development community, but renters
    don’t know the brand. Energy Star on the other hand is well known and a
    benefit.
xvii) That said, we believe our survey shows MANY opportunities for low-cost
    “greening” that address important motivating factors

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Gen Y and WINK Renters to Drive Demand for Walkable Orlando Apartments

  • 1. Multi-­‐Family  Roundtable   November  10,  2010   Question  and  Answer  Session   Roundtable  Discussion  Leaders:   Alan  Kolar-­‐  Mill  Creek  Residential  Trust,  LLC   Gregg  Logan-­‐  RCLCO  -­‐  Robert  Charles  Lesser   Randy  Anderson-­‐  UCF     Daryl  Spradley-­‐  Charles  Wayne   Stephanie  Brown-­‐  Riverstone  Residential   Discussion  Questions:   QUESTION:     “Two  demographic  groups  with  increasing  influence  are  the  Generation  Y  (born   between  1981  and  1999)  and  WINKs  (Women  with  Incomes  and  No  Kids).    How  will   these  two  groups  impact  the  multifamily  industry  in  Orlando?”   GREGG: “Gen Y First - WINK are a subset of Gen Y so let me address Gen Y First. i) 78,000,000 Gen Y nationally (1981 to 2000) (1) Between 2008 and 2020 57 million will reach age 22, beginning of prime rental age (2) So far, more are going in to existing rental properties, renovated properties and some in new but non-luxury properties due to issues of affordability. Also competition with condo’s and other properties available for rent due to over-supply on the for-sale side. (3) Have been hit hard by the economy – many have moved back home with mom and dad, and those in apartments have at least one roommate, often more; as economy improves and they “Un-Pack” this will have a very positive impact on rental demand. (a) So far due to economy, Gen Y’s not yet having the impact we expect. But it’s coming. (4) Long term demand looks very good in terms of demand for new product, for the next 10 years (5) Central Florida, about 677,752, age 10 to 29 currently; they enter the market over a 19 year period, so it’s a sizeable impact that should equate to demand for over 10,000 units annually on average (a) Of those of rental age, fairly split between urban and suburban areas
  • 2. (b) Our research has shown strong interest in places with urban amenities among this group, BUT important to note that they split about 60%/40% in terms of urban versus suburban preference (i) The point is MORE Urban demand than in the past, but lots of demand for Suburban in the right locations, ie close to restaurants and shopping and employment – they want to live where the action is, which is mitigated by what they can afford – right now they are making compromises due to what they can afford. (ii) They do like walkable places over driveable, mixed-use areas versus single use. (iii)Smaller better designed units and strong amenities – fitness centers, social pool area, internet café, gaming rooms. QUESTION:   “WINK’s  Women  Income  No  Kids,  in  their  20’s,  well  educated,  typically  earning  over   $50,000,  what’s  their  influence  likely  to  be?”   GREGG: ii) Delaying marriage, renter by choice, like walkable neighborhoods, accepting of smaller but nicer; want security iii) Care about your “Green Initiatives” even if they’re not going to pay you a premium for them. iv) Work life balance is especially important to them – want convenience. v) Like things like fitness centers, quiet sitting areasa, libraries, that you have a recycling center on site vi) Somewhat more urban and/or urban suburban oriented than Gen Y overall. vii) Select the property first, then the unit itself. viii) There are 423,000 Gen Y women in Orlando MSA; about 296,000 are potentially WINKS, childless and not married; that’s not income qualified. QUESTION:   “There  has  been  a  lot  of  focus  on  sustainable  design  and  “green  living”  by  the  media   and  local  municipalities.    How  important  are  “green  features”  in  apartment  homes  for   renters?    What  are  the  desired  features,  amenities  and  pricing  in  new  apartment   product?”   ix) GREGG: x) We did a national survey of Renters, and 45% told us that they care about the environment and will take actions and spend money to protect it.
  • 3. xi) However in terms of what drives them to rent an apartment, Cost, Safety, Unit Features and Design, Proximity to Work, Proximity to Shopping and Entertainment, score a lot higher than “Green” features or attributes. xii) Only about 37% of renters connect their home with something that impacts the Environment, and therefore their choice about where to live. However, about 20% of renters say they’re interested in renting a “Green” apartment if they can find one. Younger renters in particular less likely to pay for environmental compatibility. xiii) We looked at “Me” Green versus “We Green” in a large survey of renters sponsors by several large Apartment Developers nationall. We found that “We green” components influence choice of community and length of stay for less than 15% of renters xiv) “Me” Green includes Energy Savings - Energy-savings may influence choice of community for 25% of renters, but less than 10% of renters willing to pay more for an energy saving community xv) Almost 20% of renters willing to pay more for a community that provides better indoor air quality xvi) LEED may be industry standard for development community, but renters don’t know the brand. Energy Star on the other hand is well known and a benefit. xvii) That said, we believe our survey shows MANY opportunities for low-cost “greening” that address important motivating factors