This document provides information to help students consider going away to college, including out of state. It discusses advantages such as exposure to new communities and support programs available at colleges. Potential fears for students or parents are addressed. The document provides details on finding match colleges, researching options online and through books. Scholarships and financial aid applications are emphasized. Reasons for considering public and private out of state colleges are given. Advice for speaking to parents about their fears of a child leaving is also provided.
Going Away to College? Consider These Benefits and Fears
1. Going Away to College
Thinking About Going OutThinking About Going Out
of State to College?of State to College?
Dr. Rebecca Joseph
California State University, Los Angeles
@getmetocollege getmetocollege@gmail.com
http://tinyurl.com/outofstate2016
2. Advantages of Going Away to
College or Living in Dorms
• Please write down
three reasons why
going away to college
or living in a dorm
could benefit you or
your child?
• Please write down
three fears you or
your parents may
have about your
going away?
3. There are schools for you…There are schools for you…
There are several thousand colleges in the
country.
The larger majority of them want to diversify
their campuses and are desperate for our
students.
They come in all shapes and sizes.
Out of state colleges often you exposure to new
communities and students from all over the
world.
4.
5. My Brain is on Fire…
• Florisel-Brown Class of
2016
• Upward Bound. Very active
in and out of school
• All but $4000 last year
covered. 100% covered this
year.
Martin-Villanova University
First in family to go to college
Presidential Scholarship, 100%
covered including summer
programs
Business Major
Rome, Summer; London School
of Economics, Fall
6. Williams and Johana
Johana,
• Fremont High School, Class of
2010, University of
Pennsylvania, Class of 2014
First in family to go to college
Summer bridge program at
USC
100% covered
• Williams
• Boston College
• 1st
in family to go
• 90% covered. Rest
through scholarships
• Now works in
financial industry
7. What do competitiveWhat do competitive
colleges look for…colleges look for…
• GradesGrades
• Academic RigorAcademic Rigor
• Standardized Test ScoresStandardized Test Scores
• Application EssaysApplication Essays
• Counselor ReportCounselor Report
• Extracurricular ActivitiesExtracurricular Activities
• Teacher Letters of RecommendationTeacher Letters of Recommendation
• OtherOther
8. More About Private Colleges
• Some private colleges areSome private colleges are religiousreligious and are looking forand are looking for
students who match their religious beliefs. Some arestudents who match their religious beliefs. Some are JesuitJesuit
and accept all students. Jesuit colleges are very open toand accept all students. Jesuit colleges are very open to
undocumentedundocumented students.students.
• Other private colleges areOther private colleges are liberal artsliberal arts. They often a great. They often a great
education within non-technical fields. They offer great accesseducation within non-technical fields. They offer great access
to professors, amazing activities, and resources.to professors, amazing activities, and resources.
• Still others areStill others are technical or arts-relatedtechnical or arts-related. There are schools. There are schools
like Boston Conservatory or The Maryland Institute of the Artslike Boston Conservatory or The Maryland Institute of the Arts
that only have programs forthat only have programs for music or acting or artmusic or acting or art. Others. Others
areare technicaltechnical like MIT and only have programs related to mathlike MIT and only have programs related to math
and science and engineering and technology.and science and engineering and technology.
9. Reasons to Go Out of StateReasons to Go Out of State
• Reasons to consider going out of state:Reasons to consider going out of state:
• These schools offer amazing academic, extracurricular, andThese schools offer amazing academic, extracurricular, and
social opportunities.social opportunities.
• They offer internships and access to tremendous supportThey offer internships and access to tremendous support
programs.programs.
• They have world class professors who want to work with ourThey have world class professors who want to work with our
students.students.
• These schools offer access to fantastic programming,These schools offer access to fantastic programming,
individualized attention, and incredible students from aroundindividualized attention, and incredible students from around
the world.the world.
• Many colleges will cover all costs for undocumented andMany colleges will cover all costs for undocumented and
under-represented students.under-represented students.
• http://tinyurl.com/outofstate2016
10. Public Out of State Colleges
• There are state funded collegesThere are state funded colleges
and are traditionally much cheaperand are traditionally much cheaper
than private colleges.than private colleges.
• Each state has its own system ofEach state has its own system of
public universities. Flagshippublic universities. Flagship
campuses are their top campus—campuses are their top campus—
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor,University of Michigan-Ann Arbor,
University of Texas-Austin,University of Texas-Austin,
University of North Carolina-University of North Carolina-
Chapel Hill.Chapel Hill.
• They also have all kinds of otherThey also have all kinds of other
great public universities. In thisgreat public universities. In this
economy they are looking for outeconomy they are looking for out
of state tuition and diverseof state tuition and diverse
students.students.
• There are also exchanges. TheThere are also exchanges. The
Western Undergraduate ExchangeWestern Undergraduate Exchange
that gives financial discounts atthat gives financial discounts at
many out of state colleges formany out of state colleges for
California students.California students.
http://wiche.edu/wuehttp://wiche.edu/wue..
11. •Private CollegesPrivate Colleges
• TThey come in all shapeshey come in all shapes
and sizes. Some are veryand sizes. Some are very
selective.selective.
• The Ivy League is the topThe Ivy League is the top
tier with many of theirtier with many of their
colleges only accepting 6 tocolleges only accepting 6 to
10% of students who apply.10% of students who apply.
• There are middle level andThere are middle level and
small colleges all over. Thesmall colleges all over. The
large majority arelarge majority are
desperately seekingdesperately seeking
diverse students, and theydiverse students, and they
cancan’’t find them.t find them.
• Their costs range fromTheir costs range from
$10,000 to $73,000 per$10,000 to $73,000 per
year include tuition, room,year include tuition, room,
board, and other costs.board, and other costs.
12. How Do I Find TheseHow Do I Find These
Schools?Schools?
• How do I find these schools?How do I find these schools?
• First, you need to know yourFirst, you need to know your
match colleges. These arematch colleges. These are
based on your academicbased on your academic
profile—including grades andprofile—including grades and
test scores.test scores.
• They also depend on yourThey also depend on your
level of involvement inlevel of involvement in
activities and work. Youractivities and work. Your
artistic and athletic talentsartistic and athletic talents
can make a difference.can make a difference.
• Your passions also matter—Your passions also matter—
as there are schools foras there are schools for
African American Students,African American Students,
all women, technology, andall women, technology, and
more.more.
13. Places to Helps You Find
These Colleges
• You need to find a way to research these colleges.You need to find a way to research these colleges.
• You can visit many of them via summer programs and fly-inYou can visit many of them via summer programs and fly-in
programs. I maintain an update to date list.programs. I maintain an update to date list.
http://getmetocollege.org/hs/summer-deadlines-for-fall-travel-visitshttp://getmetocollege.org/hs/summer-deadlines-for-fall-travel-visits
• You can go online to Cappex or Unigo and research colleges.You can go online to Cappex or Unigo and research colleges.
• You can buy the book. College Access & Opportunity Guide orYou can buy the book. College Access & Opportunity Guide or
use the free online resources.use the free online resources. http://www.imfirst.org/scholarshiphttp://www.imfirst.org/scholarship
• Go to College Greenlight.Go to College Greenlight. http://www.collegegreenlight.com/http://www.collegegreenlight.com/
You can organize your entire college application processYou can organize your entire college application process
through this amazing new resource.through this amazing new resource.
• You need to go on FB and other social media websites to askYou need to go on FB and other social media websites to ask
for recommendations.for recommendations.
14. Scholarships and Other
Programs
Questbridge is for the top minority and under-represented students.
http://www.questbridge.org/ They have a summer program for top
juniors. And then a match-program for seniors. Even though few match,
the large majority of students who apply though Questbridge get into
amazing colleges.
Posse takes groups of amazing students and sends them to colleges.
They believe there is strength in numbers. They cover only tuition so
students need to make sure the rest of their expenses are covered.
Scholarships and loans can do this. http://www.possefoundation.org/
The Jack Kent Cooke Foundation has a new scholarship for top under-
represented students. http://www.jkcf.org/scholarships/college-
scholarship-program/
15. More Scholarships…More Scholarships…
Internal Scholarships:Internal Scholarships:
Colleges themselves haveColleges themselves have
diversity and presidentialdiversity and presidential
scholarships. Students canscholarships. Students can
research on college websitesresearch on college websites
to find these scholarships.to find these scholarships.
USC has the Martin ToppingUSC has the Martin Topping
Scholarship. Villanova has aScholarship. Villanova has a
diversity scholarship and adiversity scholarship and a
president scholarship. Findpresident scholarship. Find
these scholarships and apply.these scholarships and apply.
16. Check out resources at an
out of state campus.
Make sure the campus
has a support program
for first generation
students.
Make sure the campus
offers free tutoring and
support.
Does the school have a
summer bridge program
or some kind of
orientation program for
students?
Make sure there are
freshman advisors in
and out of the dorms.
17. What Can We Say to Parents:What Can We Say to Parents:
Will My Child Be LonelyWill My Child Be Lonely
All students get homesick freshman year.All students get homesick freshman year.
But they get over it quickly, especially ifBut they get over it quickly, especially if
their family supports them.their family supports them.
It would be great if you could find a way toIt would be great if you could find a way to
drop your child off freshman year and visitdrop your child off freshman year and visit
during parentsduring parents’’ weekend.weekend.
Your child will come home easily forYour child will come home easily for
Christmas and spring break.Christmas and spring break.
Thanksgiving is sometimes hard and theyThanksgiving is sometimes hard and they
go home with friends and relativesgo home with friends and relatives
You can speak with them on the phone,You can speak with them on the phone,
Skype, and Facebook.Skype, and Facebook.
You can send food and messages.You can send food and messages.
But please don’tt ask them to leave orBut please don’tt ask them to leave or
come home.come home.
You need to encourage your child to goYou need to encourage your child to go
for free tutoring, join support groups, andfor free tutoring, join support groups, and
make friends.make friends.
18. Will I miss my child?
• Of course, you will. ItOf course, you will. It’’ss
expected. My mother missedexpected. My mother missed
me. All three of us went outme. All three of us went out
of state.of state.
• You have worked so hardYou have worked so hard
and supported your child toand supported your child to
let him or her have the bestlet him or her have the best
college education possible.college education possible.
• College changes your childCollege changes your child
into an amazing adult. Theyinto an amazing adult. They
are still the same inside.are still the same inside.
They may become middleThey may become middle
class and have big dreams,class and have big dreams,
but a college education willbut a college education will
help your child and yourhelp your child and your
family.family.
• You moved here to make aYou moved here to make a
future for your family. Letfuture for your family. Let
your child move for his or heryour child move for his or her
future.future.
19. More…Will I Miss My Child?More…Will I Miss My Child?
• Kids who leave for college, come back educated and ready toKids who leave for college, come back educated and ready to
make a difference.make a difference.
• Please don’t let your fears and worries prevent your child fromPlease don’t let your fears and worries prevent your child from
having a great education.having a great education.
• I know a dad who refused to take his daughter to college and sheI know a dad who refused to take his daughter to college and she
was so sad. He forgave her a month later and went to visit her.was so sad. He forgave her a month later and went to visit her.
That made all the difference.That made all the difference.
• I met another dad, who had just dropped his twins off at BostonI met another dad, who had just dropped his twins off at Boston
University. He said he relatives didn’t understand why he could letUniversity. He said he relatives didn’t understand why he could let
his kids go. He said each kid had received a full scholarshiphis kids go. He said each kid had received a full scholarship
$55,000 per year. He wasn’t going to hold them back. He wanted$55,000 per year. He wasn’t going to hold them back. He wanted
the best for them.the best for them.
20. How do we apply and get money?How do we apply and get money?
Your need to fill out college
applications. There are multiple
fee waivers to apply for free.
You need to take standardized
tests for many colleges. They
need to send test scores out.
Others are test free.
http://fairtest.org/university/o
ptional
Your need to boast about
yourself in all of your
applications.
You can visit campuses for free
via fly-in programs.
http://getmetocollege.org/wha
t-colleges-look-for/2016-fall-
diversity-visit-programs
21. How Do We ApplyHow Do We Apply
and Get Moneyand Get Money
You need to fill out
financial aid forms. They
will ask for personal money
information. Please, please
share this info. You can get
a free education this way.
You need to fill out FAFSA
and the CSS Profile for
private colleges out of
state.
You need to fill out
scholarship applications.
You need to visit colleges
when he gets accepted.
Most will fly them to visit
for free.
22. Other Core ReadinessOther Core Readiness
Timelines-College ResearchTimelines-College Research
• College researchCollege research
takes timetakes time
• Read key books andRead key books and
websiteswebsites
• Talk to friends whoTalk to friends who
are seniors andare seniors and
recent gradsrecent grads
• Talk to friends andTalk to friends and
familyfamily
23. Final WordsFinal Words
• You are a work inYou are a work in
progressprogress
• Colleges want to knowColleges want to know
who you really arewho you really are
• Yet they don’t readYet they don’t read
minds so donminds so don’’t keept keep
anything core about youanything core about you
• But don’t overwhelmBut don’t overwhelm
them or scare themthem or scare them
awayaway
• They want to know howThey want to know how
you will enhance andyou will enhance and
enrich their campusenrich their campus
• There is so much youThere is so much you
can docan do
• It is never too late...toIt is never too late...to
develop a strong collegedevelop a strong college
readiness planreadiness plan