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Management Systems Integration:
Big Q or little q?
Dennis Arter, FASQ
October 2013
Eras of management
Control era (product) 1925-1975
Define characteristics and inspect to those
characteristics (form, fit, function)

Assurance era (process) 1975-2000
Define processes to achieve results and
make sure those processes are being
followed. (Say what you do and do what
you say)
Eras of management
Management era (system) 2000-2012
Develop organization systems to achieve
results and provide resources to achieve
success.

Integration era (whole) 2012-2018
Combine
quality, environment, safety, security into a
holistic view. More emphasis on risk
management.
Back to Basics

Plan

Do

Act

Check
From our Quality history
PDCA means

Plan
Identify item or service characteristics
(form, fit, function)
Define methods, material, and machines to
make or deliver that product
Define the systems in which the product is
made or delivered
PDCA means

Do
Provide people, equipment, material and
infrastructure to make or deliver the product
Follow the defined methods
PDCA means

Check
Measure progress in achieving defined
products, processes, and systems

This can be through inspection, audit, customer
satisfaction, SPC, or any number of such tools
PDCA means

Act
Reduce differences between desired and
actual states
Make things better and smarter

Note: Deming (PDSA) and Six Sigma (DMAIC) are versions of this.
Good and evil
Some systems promote Good
Quality management tries to achieve
excellence, efficiency, satisfaction, delight.
Financial management tries to improve
efficiency.
Human resource management tries to
maximize people resources.
Good and evil
Some systems prevent Evil
Environmental management tries to prevent
harm to the planet.
Safety management tries to prevent harm to
people.
Security management tries to keep bad guys
away.

Financial management tries to protect assets
Note: These can also save resources if done right.
Quality management model
Material

Ideas

Bring things together
People

Machines

Make it

Deliver it

Change

Evaluate it
Environmental Management model

Sources

Pollutants

Acceptable?

Conditions

No
Avoid

Take Action
Transfer

Change

Mitigate

Effects
Evaluate
Safety management model

Sources

Conditions

Energy

Acceptable?
No

Barriers

Change

Effects
Evaluate
Security management model

Acceptable?

Threat

No

Barriers

Change

Target
Monitor
Recent initiatives
ISO 19,011:2011, Management systems –
Guidelines for auditing management systems
ISO 17,021:2012, Conformity assessment
auditing
ISO Annex SL:2012, Proposals for
management system standards
ISO 9001:2015, Quality management
systems – requirements
Common elements
4.

Context of the organization

5.

Leadership

6.

Planning

7.

Support

8.

Operation

9.

Performance evaluation

10.

Improvement
Emerging trends
Access to information
Global market
Sustainability

Climate change
Business continuity

Social conditions
Triple bottom line: People, Profit, Planet
Social responsibility
1.

Consider social and environmental effects
of operations when making decisions.

2.

Be accountable for social and
environmental effects of operations.

ISO 26,000:2010, Guidance on social
responsibility, released in Dec 2010.

Not meant for conformity assessment use.
Big in Europe and Asia; not N. America
General risk model
1.

Define risk
Quantitative (What is out there?)
Qualitative (How bad is it?)

2.

Judge risk
Risk effects analysis (What happens?)
Acceptable and unacceptable risk (Worth it?)

3.

Provide countermeasures (ATM)

Avoid (physical and admin)
Transfer (buy insurance or sell to Moldova)
Mitigate (process design)
Risk issues
Good or evil
Quality profession emphasis on making
better
Risk professions emphasis on preventing
evil
Is it actually increasing?
Attention to risk concepts is increasing every
day
Future: Big Q?
Quality heart and soul
Environmental brain
Safety shoes

Security skirt
Sustainable energy

Low carbon emissions
Future: or little q?
Quality is
part of the
stew
Let’s have a conversation
Preserve emphasis on goodness
Big Q or little q
Thank You
Dennis Arter, the Auditguy
Kennewick, Washington, USA
Mail: Dennis@auditguy.net

Web: http://auditguy.net
Blog: http://auditguy.blogspot.com

Twitter: @Auditguy
Reference
Quality
ISO 9000 family and spin-offs
ISO 9001:2008 is quite mature.
Current emphasis is on processes and how
they form systems. No big changes expected.
Most of the world sees quality as conformity
assessment (registration/certification).
Quality
Medical device and pharmaceutical
Device is mature. FDA 21 CFR 820 (Quality
System Requirements) and ISO 13,485:2003
apply.
Pharma moving towards harmonization, with
FDA 21 CFR 210 as the start.
Quality
Food safety
ISO 22,000:2006 (HACCP and ISO 9001 and
GMP)
British Retail Consortium (BRC codes)
Safe Quality Food 2005 (SQF) is quite mature
Consolidation effort by Global Food Safety
Initiative
Consumer interest strong and getting stronger
Environment
ISO 14001:2004, Environmental
management systems -- Requirements
and rest of family.
Quite mature and merging with 9001.
Expect much more activity on labeling and
claims of conformance.
ISO 50,001:2011, Energy management
systems
Occupational safety
Still pretty reactive and lacking maturity of
other systems. (Lawyers?)
OHSAS 18,001:2007 (Requirements)
developed by ISO and ILO. Not much interest
in No. America.
Responsible Care and Process Safety
Management (21 CFR 1910) for chemical
industry in USA.
Information security
ISO 27,001:2005 (Info Security). Started out as BS
17,799.
ISO 13,335:2004 (IT/MIS Security) available for free.
Identity theft and password capture are huge revenue
generators for bad guys.
Cyber-warfare is being developed (StuxNET worm).
Zero Day thriller novel recently released.
Governments and multi-nationals interested in
registration/certification.
Business security
NFPA 1600:2007 on Disaster
Planning, Emergency Response, and
Business Continuity used by US Dept. of
Homeland Security.

ISO 22301:2012 Societal security - Business
continuity management systems Requirements
Supply chain security
Supply chain risk (sole
source, lean, safety, terrorism)
ISO 28,001:2007 Security management
systems for the supply chain used for
registration
Risk management
ISO 31,000:2009 says that Risk management:
1.

Creates and protects value

2.

Is an integral part of all organizational
processes

3.

Is part of decision making

4.

Explicitly addresses uncertainty
Risk management
ISO 31,000:2009 says that Risk management:
5.

Is systematic, structured and timely

6.

Is based on best available information

7.

Is tailored

8.

Takes human and cultural factors into
account
Risk management
ISO 31,000:2009 says that Risk management:
9.

Is transparent and inclusive

10.

Is dynamic, iterative and responsive to
change

11.

Facilitates continual improvement of the
organization
See also ISO 14,971:2001 (Risk
management for medical devices)
Corporate social responsibility
CSR is not SR. Focus is on business
Some national standards being
developed, especially in Eastern Europe, but
not ISO

Conformity assessment, with government
encouragement
Used in USA as shorthand for green and
corporate charity
No ISO movement (that I am aware of)

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Integrated Management Systems

  • 1. Management Systems Integration: Big Q or little q? Dennis Arter, FASQ October 2013
  • 2. Eras of management Control era (product) 1925-1975 Define characteristics and inspect to those characteristics (form, fit, function) Assurance era (process) 1975-2000 Define processes to achieve results and make sure those processes are being followed. (Say what you do and do what you say)
  • 3. Eras of management Management era (system) 2000-2012 Develop organization systems to achieve results and provide resources to achieve success. Integration era (whole) 2012-2018 Combine quality, environment, safety, security into a holistic view. More emphasis on risk management.
  • 5. PDCA means Plan Identify item or service characteristics (form, fit, function) Define methods, material, and machines to make or deliver that product Define the systems in which the product is made or delivered
  • 6. PDCA means Do Provide people, equipment, material and infrastructure to make or deliver the product Follow the defined methods
  • 7. PDCA means Check Measure progress in achieving defined products, processes, and systems This can be through inspection, audit, customer satisfaction, SPC, or any number of such tools
  • 8. PDCA means Act Reduce differences between desired and actual states Make things better and smarter Note: Deming (PDSA) and Six Sigma (DMAIC) are versions of this.
  • 9. Good and evil Some systems promote Good Quality management tries to achieve excellence, efficiency, satisfaction, delight. Financial management tries to improve efficiency. Human resource management tries to maximize people resources.
  • 10. Good and evil Some systems prevent Evil Environmental management tries to prevent harm to the planet. Safety management tries to prevent harm to people. Security management tries to keep bad guys away. Financial management tries to protect assets Note: These can also save resources if done right.
  • 11. Quality management model Material Ideas Bring things together People Machines Make it Deliver it Change Evaluate it
  • 15. Recent initiatives ISO 19,011:2011, Management systems – Guidelines for auditing management systems ISO 17,021:2012, Conformity assessment auditing ISO Annex SL:2012, Proposals for management system standards ISO 9001:2015, Quality management systems – requirements
  • 16. Common elements 4. Context of the organization 5. Leadership 6. Planning 7. Support 8. Operation 9. Performance evaluation 10. Improvement
  • 17. Emerging trends Access to information Global market Sustainability Climate change Business continuity Social conditions Triple bottom line: People, Profit, Planet
  • 18. Social responsibility 1. Consider social and environmental effects of operations when making decisions. 2. Be accountable for social and environmental effects of operations. ISO 26,000:2010, Guidance on social responsibility, released in Dec 2010. Not meant for conformity assessment use. Big in Europe and Asia; not N. America
  • 19. General risk model 1. Define risk Quantitative (What is out there?) Qualitative (How bad is it?) 2. Judge risk Risk effects analysis (What happens?) Acceptable and unacceptable risk (Worth it?) 3. Provide countermeasures (ATM) Avoid (physical and admin) Transfer (buy insurance or sell to Moldova) Mitigate (process design)
  • 20. Risk issues Good or evil Quality profession emphasis on making better Risk professions emphasis on preventing evil Is it actually increasing? Attention to risk concepts is increasing every day
  • 21. Future: Big Q? Quality heart and soul Environmental brain Safety shoes Security skirt Sustainable energy Low carbon emissions
  • 22. Future: or little q? Quality is part of the stew
  • 23. Let’s have a conversation Preserve emphasis on goodness Big Q or little q
  • 24. Thank You Dennis Arter, the Auditguy Kennewick, Washington, USA Mail: Dennis@auditguy.net Web: http://auditguy.net Blog: http://auditguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @Auditguy
  • 26. Quality ISO 9000 family and spin-offs ISO 9001:2008 is quite mature. Current emphasis is on processes and how they form systems. No big changes expected. Most of the world sees quality as conformity assessment (registration/certification).
  • 27. Quality Medical device and pharmaceutical Device is mature. FDA 21 CFR 820 (Quality System Requirements) and ISO 13,485:2003 apply. Pharma moving towards harmonization, with FDA 21 CFR 210 as the start.
  • 28. Quality Food safety ISO 22,000:2006 (HACCP and ISO 9001 and GMP) British Retail Consortium (BRC codes) Safe Quality Food 2005 (SQF) is quite mature Consolidation effort by Global Food Safety Initiative Consumer interest strong and getting stronger
  • 29. Environment ISO 14001:2004, Environmental management systems -- Requirements and rest of family. Quite mature and merging with 9001. Expect much more activity on labeling and claims of conformance. ISO 50,001:2011, Energy management systems
  • 30. Occupational safety Still pretty reactive and lacking maturity of other systems. (Lawyers?) OHSAS 18,001:2007 (Requirements) developed by ISO and ILO. Not much interest in No. America. Responsible Care and Process Safety Management (21 CFR 1910) for chemical industry in USA.
  • 31. Information security ISO 27,001:2005 (Info Security). Started out as BS 17,799. ISO 13,335:2004 (IT/MIS Security) available for free. Identity theft and password capture are huge revenue generators for bad guys. Cyber-warfare is being developed (StuxNET worm). Zero Day thriller novel recently released. Governments and multi-nationals interested in registration/certification.
  • 32. Business security NFPA 1600:2007 on Disaster Planning, Emergency Response, and Business Continuity used by US Dept. of Homeland Security. ISO 22301:2012 Societal security - Business continuity management systems Requirements
  • 33. Supply chain security Supply chain risk (sole source, lean, safety, terrorism) ISO 28,001:2007 Security management systems for the supply chain used for registration
  • 34. Risk management ISO 31,000:2009 says that Risk management: 1. Creates and protects value 2. Is an integral part of all organizational processes 3. Is part of decision making 4. Explicitly addresses uncertainty
  • 35. Risk management ISO 31,000:2009 says that Risk management: 5. Is systematic, structured and timely 6. Is based on best available information 7. Is tailored 8. Takes human and cultural factors into account
  • 36. Risk management ISO 31,000:2009 says that Risk management: 9. Is transparent and inclusive 10. Is dynamic, iterative and responsive to change 11. Facilitates continual improvement of the organization See also ISO 14,971:2001 (Risk management for medical devices)
  • 37. Corporate social responsibility CSR is not SR. Focus is on business Some national standards being developed, especially in Eastern Europe, but not ISO Conformity assessment, with government encouragement Used in USA as shorthand for green and corporate charity No ISO movement (that I am aware of)