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Ski Testing 101
Ski Testing 101
Agenda
• How does Current Ski Design effect how
we test?
• How to get the most out of each ski
• How to write a test card
• Wrap up
Current Ski Design
It’s good to be fat
• More stable platform
• Greater sliding/surface area
• Improved versatility
Too fat can be a problem
• Requires greater movements from pilot
• Decreased versatility
Rocker
• Völkl - ELP
– Round shape
throughout ski
– Flex pattern
developed for
rocker
– Specific
sidecuts for
rocker
(otherwise it’s
just a bent ski)
– Lower tip profile
SPEED ROCKER
Slightly elevated tip
Traditional camber aft of tip
CATCH-FREE TECHNOLOGY
Elevated tip & tail
Easy initiation & release
Traditional camber under foot
JIB ROCKER
Elevated tip & tail
Zero camber underfoot
ALL-TERRAIN ROCKER
Elevated tip
Traditional camber underfoot
POWDER ROCKER
Highest tip elevation
Largest Rocker Area
Small camber region
Ramp Angle
• Traditionally
• as boot sole decreases ramp angle increases
• The Gas Pedal
• As boot sole decreases ramp angle decreases
• Twins - Positive ramp to secure tail
• SL - Negative ramp to load tip
• GS - Positive ramp to secure tail
• Women - manufacturer dependent
– Some are still arguing Positive for ease of
initiation
– Some are arguing Negative for ease of
initiation
– The truth?
Boot Toe @ ½ Chord
• L = Chord Length
• S = ½ Boot Sole Length (Average Estimate)
• BT= Distance from the tail
• BT=L/2
• BC=(L/2)-S
Boot Center Mark
(L/2)-S
Boot Toe
Chord Length
L/2
• Boot Toe @ ½ Cord
• Twins (true center for riding switch)
• SL (aft for stability)
• GS (forward for ease of initiation)
• Women (forward for ease of initiation)
– Is this always right?
How does all this effect how we test skis?
Answer: Not At All
Its not a race!
• Ski at a rate that most closely matches the
target of each category.
• Explore how the ski behaves at various
speeds.
• Is it easy and fun to ski it slowly?
• Will it do all you want it to do at moderate
speeds?
• Are you comfortable and confident at high
speeds?
Discover & Empathize with the target.
• Who is the target audience?
• Are they seeking confidence or
performance?
• Are they trying to acquire skills or perfecting
their skills?
Discover the tune.
How does the base
structure feel?
Discover the tune.
How do the bevel angles
feel?
Push the envelope.
Explore turn shape control.
• Force skis with a
long radius into short
turns.
• Force skis with a
short radius into long
turns.
Push the envelope.
Explore speed
• How slow is too slow?
• How fast is too fast?
Ski Testing 101
Push the envelope.
Explore the limits.
• Ski groomer skis in the crud and bumps.
• Ski fat skis on the groomed.
• Ski park skis all over the mountain.
Ski Testing 101
Be consistent.
• Use appropriate terrain.
• Use the same two trails for each ski.
• Use the same maneuvers in the same
place each run.
Ski Testing 101
Ski Testing 101
Ski Testing 101
• Group yourselves by Boot Sole Length
This will make turn around at the Vans faster
• Keep your comments private
Talking about the skis with each other will
distort your results
• Don’t wait to fill out the card
You’ll get lost if you try to fill out the card later
Remember
1. Its not a race!
2. Its definitely not a GS race!
3. Discover & Empathize with the target.
4. Push the envelope.
5. Be consistent.

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Testing 101

  • 2. Ski Testing 101 Agenda • How does Current Ski Design effect how we test? • How to get the most out of each ski • How to write a test card • Wrap up
  • 4. It’s good to be fat • More stable platform • Greater sliding/surface area • Improved versatility
  • 5. Too fat can be a problem • Requires greater movements from pilot • Decreased versatility
  • 7. • Völkl - ELP – Round shape throughout ski – Flex pattern developed for rocker – Specific sidecuts for rocker (otherwise it’s just a bent ski) – Lower tip profile
  • 8. SPEED ROCKER Slightly elevated tip Traditional camber aft of tip CATCH-FREE TECHNOLOGY Elevated tip & tail Easy initiation & release Traditional camber under foot JIB ROCKER Elevated tip & tail Zero camber underfoot ALL-TERRAIN ROCKER Elevated tip Traditional camber underfoot POWDER ROCKER Highest tip elevation Largest Rocker Area Small camber region
  • 9. Ramp Angle • Traditionally • as boot sole decreases ramp angle increases • The Gas Pedal • As boot sole decreases ramp angle decreases
  • 10. • Twins - Positive ramp to secure tail • SL - Negative ramp to load tip • GS - Positive ramp to secure tail • Women - manufacturer dependent – Some are still arguing Positive for ease of initiation – Some are arguing Negative for ease of initiation – The truth?
  • 11. Boot Toe @ ½ Chord • L = Chord Length • S = ½ Boot Sole Length (Average Estimate) • BT= Distance from the tail • BT=L/2 • BC=(L/2)-S Boot Center Mark (L/2)-S Boot Toe Chord Length L/2
  • 12. • Boot Toe @ ½ Cord • Twins (true center for riding switch) • SL (aft for stability) • GS (forward for ease of initiation) • Women (forward for ease of initiation) – Is this always right?
  • 13. How does all this effect how we test skis? Answer: Not At All
  • 14. Its not a race! • Ski at a rate that most closely matches the target of each category. • Explore how the ski behaves at various speeds. • Is it easy and fun to ski it slowly? • Will it do all you want it to do at moderate speeds? • Are you comfortable and confident at high speeds?
  • 15. Discover & Empathize with the target. • Who is the target audience? • Are they seeking confidence or performance? • Are they trying to acquire skills or perfecting their skills?
  • 16. Discover the tune. How does the base structure feel?
  • 17. Discover the tune. How do the bevel angles feel?
  • 18. Push the envelope. Explore turn shape control. • Force skis with a long radius into short turns. • Force skis with a short radius into long turns.
  • 19. Push the envelope. Explore speed • How slow is too slow? • How fast is too fast?
  • 20. Ski Testing 101 Push the envelope. Explore the limits. • Ski groomer skis in the crud and bumps. • Ski fat skis on the groomed. • Ski park skis all over the mountain.
  • 21. Ski Testing 101 Be consistent. • Use appropriate terrain. • Use the same two trails for each ski. • Use the same maneuvers in the same place each run.
  • 24. Ski Testing 101 • Group yourselves by Boot Sole Length This will make turn around at the Vans faster • Keep your comments private Talking about the skis with each other will distort your results • Don’t wait to fill out the card You’ll get lost if you try to fill out the card later
  • 25. Remember 1. Its not a race! 2. Its definitely not a GS race! 3. Discover & Empathize with the target. 4. Push the envelope. 5. Be consistent.

Notas do Editor

  1. 10 years ago 70mm was fat now 70mm is narrow Tie to SSMS B. Laidman presentation
  2. 10 years ago 70mm was fat now 70mm is narrow Tie to SSMS B. Laidman presentation
  3. Speed Skis Shorter But Holds Like Traditional Ski Catch free easy in and out greater confidence and control All terrain more versatile and easier to ski in all conditions Powder desined for optimal performnce in a fluid with just enough old school to get from the front to the back
  4. Individual morphology and the type of skiing you do and the geometry of the ski you use will dictate which is best for each individual male or female Don’t get hung up on the fact that the marks may not line up But be aware that excessive ramp issues can present as tuning issues be sure which is which before throwing the baby out with the bath water
  5. The boot center mark on the ski is a construct It is an estimate by the manufacturer of the average boot sole length that will be used on that size ski Don’t get hung up on the fact that the marks may not line up But be aware that mounting issues can present as tuning issues be sure which is which before throwing the baby out with the bath water
  6. No depending on each individual’s anatomy, style, strength, aggressiveness, ability level, ski type, side cut, and preferred terrain!
  7. The way we discover how each ski works, feels, and performs for us does not change.
  8. For his event the target is you. What are you seeking?
  9. This helps you become familiar with the ski and how its tuned but its not a tune test! Make sure they get it. Its not a tune test but the manufacturers have are very inconsistent and many of the skis are poorly tuned due to the limited knowledge base of the factory reps. Don’t offend the reps just know how the ski should feel and be aware.
  10. Again this helps to get familiar with the ski and how its tuned but its not a tune test. This helps you become familiar with the ski and how its tuned but its not a tune test! Make sure they get it. Its not a tune test but the manufacturers have are very inconsistent and many of the skis are poorly tuned due to the limited knowledge base of the factory reps. Don’t offend the reps just know how the ski should feel and be aware.
  11. Seek he limits of the skis versatility.
  12. Seek he limits of the skis versatility.
  13. Seek he limits of the skis versatility.
  14. Be accurate, be deliberate, be consistent.
  15. Check for understanding. DO they know what each of the factors relate to?
  16. Why is this important? Check for understanding. DO they know what each of the factors relate to? What are the definitions of the skier types? Ask tem to define then clarify.