Professor Sally Redman AM, CEO of the Sax Institute, recently addressed a CIPHER forum to share how the SPIRIT trial is testing a program designed to increase the use of research in policy and programs. CIPHER, the Centre for Informing Policy in Health with Evidence from Research, is an Australian collaborative research centre managed by the Sax Institute, that is investigating the tools, skills and systems that might contribute to an increased use of research evidence in policy. For more information visit www.saxinstitute.org.au.