September U3A Genealogy Meeting

1. U3A Genealogy
September 18th 2012

2. Look at
Write down Talk to Plan your
Family
What you know Relatives Research
Records
START
Discover
Delve into
What sources
Ancestors
available
lives
Other Keep effective
sources records
Births
Wills Parish Marriages
Censuses
Records Deaths

3. Census New relatives BMD
Information Information Information
Genes Reunited
Known Relatives
Information
Ask them
Your
Information
Find it
Other Sources Yourself Parish
Of Registers
Information Information

4. About 1840
LDS Microfiche Ancestry.co.uk
CENSUSES LDS 1881
Findmypast.com
PARISH FreeBMD
RECORDS Ancestry
CIVIL BMD
Findmypast.com
RECORDS
UKBMD
LDS Family Search Local BMD
sites
GENES REUNITED
GENUKI , FHS, GOONS, ETC
GOOGLE, ROOTSWEB and OTHER LISTS

6. Welcome
• Welcome
• Blog update, have a look at:
• http://rodneysgenealogyblog.blogspot.co.uk/
• Tony Sadler and Workhouses
• Stuff from me, including our project
• Stuff from you!

7. Workhouses
• Tony Sadler has been gathering information
on Workhouses, what they were, how they
worked, etc
• He is now in a position to show us what he
has learned

8. New on Ancestry

9. Family History
National Subject Coordinator

10. U3A Family History
Leaders Forum

11. U3A Family History
Leaders Forum

12. A Request from the Genealogy
Group to all other U3A Members
Genealogy Group Leader Rodney Fox is
planning a Group exercise for the autumn. He
is seeking a U3A member who has NOT carried
out research of his/her family tree. He plans to
have members of the Group do it for you!

13. A Request from the Genealogy
Group to all other U3A Members
The plan is to have members of the Genealogy
Group work together with the basic
information available that you can provide; to
research generations of ancestors using the
tools we have available, establish names,
places and dates to develop the family tree,
and then put all the information into a
database.

14. A Request from the Genealogy
Group to all other U3A Members
Of course, there is so much more to a person’s life
than just a name and set of dates. Group members
will attempt to find out much more about your
ancestors. What sort of life did they have? Were they
good at school? What did they do for a living? Did
they improve themselves? Did they move house?
Were they active in social, political or religious
circles? Did they fight in the war? Did they emigrate?
Did they die young? Did they leave a will? What was
the cause of their death?

15. A Request from the Genealogy
Group to all other U3A Members
• We then plan to pull the whole family story
together in a format that will become a family
heirloom.
• That’s our plan. Whether we can achieve all of
the above remains to be seen. We are, after
all, only amateurs.
• So, will you be our volunteer? Contact Rodney
at Rodney@usfoxes.com to express an
interest.

16. How will this help us?
• Increase our abilities to conduct genealogy
research
• Increase our experience of using the range of
research tools and databases
• Build up our skills at overcoming brick walls
• Going beyond genealogy to family history
• Learning to piece it all together

17. How will we do it?
• How do we select ?
• Alan Bailey!
• The remainder volunteers are identified to use
depending upon our success with Alan.
• How will we gather the initial information
from Alan and other volunteers?

18. How will we do it?
• Someone to “own” the project”
• Someone for censuses
• Someone for BMDs
• Someone for parish registers.
• Someone to look for tombstones, etc and
burial records.
• Someone for checking out existing family
trees via Genes Reunited, Ancestry, perhaps
Rootsweb Mailing Lists.

19. How will we do it?
• Someone to gather and store information in
their genealogy application, which should do
all of the basics and produce an appropriate
book at the end of the exercise.
• Someone to explore religious background for
various ancestors.
• Someone to explore occupations for various
ancestors.

20. How will we do it?
• Someone to see if there are any wills for any
ancestors.
• Someone to check out emi/immigration for
the various families
• Someone to gather appropriate
photos/images for use in a final document

21. Family Questionnaire
Your name at birth?
When and where were you born?
Father's full name?
Nickname?
Mother's full name?
Nickname?
Where and when were your parents married?
What work did your father do?
Dis you visit his workplace?
Did your father serve in the Armed Forces?
Which / when?
Any medals?
Did your parents ever talk about their parents?
Their names and places of origin?
Their fathers' jobs?
When did your parents die, and where are they buried?
Do you have copies of birth / marraige / death certificates?
Did either of your parents leave a will?
What were the names of your brothers and sisters?
When and where were they born?
Did any of them die young?

22. Family Questionnaire
Can you remember the family home when you were young?
What schools did you and your siblings attend?
Dis your family attend church?
If so, which church?
Do you have any childhood memories of relatives?
Do you remember any family weddings when you were young?
Who was there, and who was absent?
Do you remember celebrating any national / local events in your childhood?
Are there any "stories" about ancestors handed down in your family?
Do you believe your ancestors have always been "local", or are there claims
to be from "somewhere else"in earlier generations?
When and where were you married?
What are/were the full names/date and place of birth of your spouse?
What are/were the full names/dates and places of birth of your children?
If spouse and children have died, when did they die and where are they buried?
Pedigree Chart / Famly Unit Chart / Certificates / Photos

23. Daphne’s dilemma
• I have been looking at Elizabeth Vincent
• Details are as follows
• Born in Netherhampton in 1836
• Found in 1841 and 1851 census (all OK so far)
• I checked on another tree because I couldn't find her in
1861.
• There was another tree in ancestory which she was on, this
tree stated that she married Henry Hibberd in 1860.
• On this tree she subsequently had three children Henry
1861 Sarah 1863 and Ernest 1865.
•
• I checked and could find no evidence or any Marriage for her
•

24. Daphne’s dilemma
• I later found her in 1861 living with her brother George.
• This makes me think there must have been two Elizabeth
Vincents.
• My question is, if there is no record of any marriage on
record could there be records somwhere else?
• Can I check to find if there were two Elizabeths.
• This makes me also realise that it is no good just taking
someone else's tree to be correct everything needs to be
double checked.
• Incidentally, I found Ernest Vincent living with his uncle in
1891.

25. Keith’s dilemma
• I have a cousin living in Australia who has recently been
contacted by somebody over their who believes that they
are related. Knowing of my interest in the subject my cousin
mentioned it to me last week. All we know is that the family
in Australia are Norton-Bakers and that the relationship is
most likely on the Akers/Sadler side of my family (so might
also be of interest to Tony!).
• My Dad's youngs brother's middle name was Brisbane and
the family lore was that he got that in honour of friends
living there, but I now wonder if it was actually family.
• I have never explored the possibility of overseas relatives
and I'm not sure where to start

26. Keith’s other dilemma
I have been trying to delve into my Dad's naval
service. H was "hostilities only" in the RN from
1939-45. The only clue I have is his Navy bible
inscribed by the ships chaplain. I've tried the ship's
name and the chaplain's name as well as Dad's
name, but maybe I've been looking in the wrong
place
Dad was Stanley Charles Thatcher, 18/1/12-
22/11/89. His Bible is inscribed HMS Wellesley,
6/3/45, and signed F J Gillesbie (might be Gillespie),
Charlain RNVR.

27. October Meeting
• There will be no meeting on 16th October.
• Rodney is away
• Keep up the good (research) work!
• See you on November 20th!