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Product Across World
Intro
● Working at Branch.io as Senior Product Manager for Core Platform and User
Experience
● Branch is California based attribution and deeplinking Unicorn
● Worked at Tokopedia in Indonesia as Senior Lead PM for Data and Growth
Products
● Tokopedia is Indonesia’s biggest ecommerce and SEA’s 3rd biggest startup
$7B
● Worked at Paytm as Product Manager for Consumer Payment Products
(started out of B.Tech)
● Launched Paytm QR code, Paytm SDK’s, Paytm Passbook and Bank
Agenda
● Talk in general about how
○ Users
○ Products
○ Culture
○ Startups and
○ Teams
differ across India, SEA and USA
● How you can expand a product across India
● What are Pros and Cons of working outside India
Expansion
- Language Barrier
- Local office
- USA Service and Sales
- Product hunt
- Twitter and YC tags
- Attend Conference
Product
India -
● More Strategic
● Need Driven
● Target is not profitability and currently in expansion mode
● UI and UX is much more cleaner and intuitive (specially main apps)
● It’s more towards growth and stability and less innovation/R&D
Example -
Paytm QR code - Started from 200,000 to 50M till I was there
Product
Indonesia -
● Generally a model copied from other parts and modified and adapted to
market
● Target is profitability
● Competition is more and thus more towards sustainability
● UX and UI is more visual and graphical
● Operate on PAAS model
Product
USA -
● Generally Mission Driven
● Try and Fail mindset
● Copying is looked down upon
● Since people pay for service, profitability is not true worry, innovation is.
● Simpler, One Product - One Service
Start Ups
India -
● Less risky road
● Prepare for backup options
● More business savvy
USA -
● Silicon Valley kids, so have seen their
parents work in or start startups
● Try to change the world and thus more
mission driven
● Network effect is profound
● High Risk appetite, may be due to society
SEA -
● High Pressure to be rich
● Side hustles along the work
● Studied outside, saw a trend,
monetizing it at home
● Since copying is okay, need
to be frugal and cunning
● China 1 child policy
Users
Users
India -
● Want maximum out of minimum
● Ready to adjust on quality
● Market is so big, that everyone can find a
niche
● Less loyalty
● More tech savvy
USA -
● Early Adopter and Innovators
● Loyal
● Pay and expect quality
● Expect low mental load
SEA -
● High Spending Power
● Promo hunters
● High Language barrier
● C2C economy
● Frugal
● Low loyalty
● Respectful
Tech and Process
India
● More varied tech level, can find people at all level
● More on What and less on Why.
● QA is still not high priority
● Choose tried and tested stacks
● More informal towards process
● Jugaad mentality
● Find the best what works for them
Tech and Process
Indo
● More like, Google it and implement what is on top
● Respectful
● Hierarchical
● Tech stack and code quality is cleanest
● They lack the speed of execution
● Talent gap is prominent
● Language is one big challenge
Tech and Process
Since technology is still growing, projects like PWA and AMP are popular.
E.g. -
- Implemented PWA to go beyong Jakarta
- a 5X jump in conversion rates, a 40% increase in organic traffic, 65% faster page load times, and a 60% lower
bounce rate, which highlighted better engagement.
- https://amp.dev/success-stories/tokopedia/
Tech and Process
USA
● More formal in office
● Social Norms and Work life balance is promoted
● Respect Time
● Focus more on Why and How
● Spend time in R&D
● Avoid hacks and prefer delayed but quality product
● Strong QA focus
Pros and Cons
Pros -
● Experience and Exposure
● You have influence in Indonesia, in USA it’s tricky
● Career Opportunities
● Learn empathy and best practices
● Networking
Pros and Cons
Cons -
● Language is a barrier in day to day life in Indo, you miss stuff
● You may be smartest person in room and that is not good
● It’s not acceptable to have the Indian attitude
● Learnings in Product could be less
● Personal aspects (family, friends and stuff)
Career Opportunities
● USA, L1 or H1B
● Indonesia and Singapore, easier. Singapore has Employment Permit.
● SEA yes, a lot of influx of engineers from Indians recently.
Let’s talk about how
Thank You

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Product across the world

  • 2. Intro ● Working at Branch.io as Senior Product Manager for Core Platform and User Experience ● Branch is California based attribution and deeplinking Unicorn ● Worked at Tokopedia in Indonesia as Senior Lead PM for Data and Growth Products ● Tokopedia is Indonesia’s biggest ecommerce and SEA’s 3rd biggest startup $7B ● Worked at Paytm as Product Manager for Consumer Payment Products (started out of B.Tech) ● Launched Paytm QR code, Paytm SDK’s, Paytm Passbook and Bank
  • 3. Agenda ● Talk in general about how ○ Users ○ Products ○ Culture ○ Startups and ○ Teams differ across India, SEA and USA ● How you can expand a product across India ● What are Pros and Cons of working outside India
  • 4. Expansion - Language Barrier - Local office - USA Service and Sales - Product hunt - Twitter and YC tags - Attend Conference
  • 5. Product India - ● More Strategic ● Need Driven ● Target is not profitability and currently in expansion mode ● UI and UX is much more cleaner and intuitive (specially main apps) ● It’s more towards growth and stability and less innovation/R&D Example - Paytm QR code - Started from 200,000 to 50M till I was there
  • 6. Product Indonesia - ● Generally a model copied from other parts and modified and adapted to market ● Target is profitability ● Competition is more and thus more towards sustainability ● UX and UI is more visual and graphical ● Operate on PAAS model
  • 7. Product USA - ● Generally Mission Driven ● Try and Fail mindset ● Copying is looked down upon ● Since people pay for service, profitability is not true worry, innovation is. ● Simpler, One Product - One Service
  • 8. Start Ups India - ● Less risky road ● Prepare for backup options ● More business savvy USA - ● Silicon Valley kids, so have seen their parents work in or start startups ● Try to change the world and thus more mission driven ● Network effect is profound ● High Risk appetite, may be due to society SEA - ● High Pressure to be rich ● Side hustles along the work ● Studied outside, saw a trend, monetizing it at home ● Since copying is okay, need to be frugal and cunning ● China 1 child policy
  • 10. Users India - ● Want maximum out of minimum ● Ready to adjust on quality ● Market is so big, that everyone can find a niche ● Less loyalty ● More tech savvy USA - ● Early Adopter and Innovators ● Loyal ● Pay and expect quality ● Expect low mental load SEA - ● High Spending Power ● Promo hunters ● High Language barrier ● C2C economy ● Frugal ● Low loyalty ● Respectful
  • 11. Tech and Process India ● More varied tech level, can find people at all level ● More on What and less on Why. ● QA is still not high priority ● Choose tried and tested stacks ● More informal towards process ● Jugaad mentality ● Find the best what works for them
  • 12. Tech and Process Indo ● More like, Google it and implement what is on top ● Respectful ● Hierarchical ● Tech stack and code quality is cleanest ● They lack the speed of execution ● Talent gap is prominent ● Language is one big challenge
  • 13. Tech and Process Since technology is still growing, projects like PWA and AMP are popular. E.g. - - Implemented PWA to go beyong Jakarta - a 5X jump in conversion rates, a 40% increase in organic traffic, 65% faster page load times, and a 60% lower bounce rate, which highlighted better engagement. - https://amp.dev/success-stories/tokopedia/
  • 14. Tech and Process USA ● More formal in office ● Social Norms and Work life balance is promoted ● Respect Time ● Focus more on Why and How ● Spend time in R&D ● Avoid hacks and prefer delayed but quality product ● Strong QA focus
  • 15. Pros and Cons Pros - ● Experience and Exposure ● You have influence in Indonesia, in USA it’s tricky ● Career Opportunities ● Learn empathy and best practices ● Networking
  • 16. Pros and Cons Cons - ● Language is a barrier in day to day life in Indo, you miss stuff ● You may be smartest person in room and that is not good ● It’s not acceptable to have the Indian attitude ● Learnings in Product could be less ● Personal aspects (family, friends and stuff)
  • 17. Career Opportunities ● USA, L1 or H1B ● Indonesia and Singapore, easier. Singapore has Employment Permit. ● SEA yes, a lot of influx of engineers from Indians recently. Let’s talk about how