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Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
Rusty Lindquist Camie Bailey
Vice President, Thought Leadership
BambooHR
Comp Software Implementation Manager
PayScale
Understanding The
Employee Journey
TIME
Visibility
Technology Trigger
Peak of inflated expectations
Trough of disillusionment
Slope of enlightenment
Plateau of
productivity
GartnerHypeCycle
TIME
EMPLOYEE
ENGAGEMENT
Date of Hire
Peak of inflated expectations
Trough of disillusionment
Slope of enlightenment
Plateau of
productivity
EmployeeJourney
TIME
EMPLOYEE
ENGAGEMENT
Date of Hire
Peak of inflated expectations
Trough of disillusionment
Slope of enlightenment
Plateau of
productivity
Slope of
Disengagement
Slope of
Re-engagement
EmployeeJourney
EmployeeJourney
Employee	Journey
Moments of Peak Engagement
At-Risk Exit Points
Life’s Journey
Ultimate
Individual
“Why”
The day you were born
The day you find out why
Life’s Journey
Ultimate
Individual
“Why”
The Orbit of Employee Engagement
Life’s Journey
The day you find out why
The day you were born
You
e
Your organization
Your
Company
Employee Journey
Journey of Re-engagement
e
Your
Company
Moment
of Peak
Engagement
(Flow)
Departure / Disengagement
Triggers
Emotional Distancing
Maximum
Risk of
Departure
Decision to
Re-engage
Emotional Refueling Onboarding / Reboarding
Employee Journey
Journey of Re-engagement
Journey of Disengagement
Optimal
Employee
Orbit (Circular)
“Re-hire”
& “Re-board”
Disengagement Diagnostics
Stay Interviews
eNPS
Pulse Survey’s
Intervention
Opportunities
Maximum
Emotional
Sensitivity
Lowest
Gravitational Pull
e
Organizational Waste
TRAINING MANAGERS
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
bamboohr.com payscale.com
There’s a Large Confidence Gap
• 70% of conversations about pay happen between managers
and employees (CEB)
• Only 19% of companies say they’re ”very confident” in their
managers’ abilities to have tough conversations about comp
with employees (PayScale CBPR)
• But only 1/3 have training for managers (PayScale CBPR)
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
bamboohr.com payscale.com
Communicating the “WHY” of Pay Matters
• Most employees don’t know if they’re paid fairly or not.
• Perception of pay impacts employee satisfaction and intent to leave.
• 82% of employees are okay with low pay as long as they
understand the rationale.
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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What Employees BelieveAbout Pay
A survey of 71,000 people shows that most can’t identify how they’re paid compared to the market
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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What Managers Need to Know
1. Your company’s compensation philosophy, strategy and policies
2. Process for communicating comp – timeline
3. How to conduct the compensation review meeting
4. Communication best practices
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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Compensation Philosophy
Tell managers how transparent your organization intends to be
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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Strategy, Policies & Processes
• Results from your most recent market study
• How and when are market increases allocated?
• How are merit-based increases determined?
• How is range determined for a position?
• What will happen to pay in case of a promotion, demotion or transfer?
• What do you handle green-circled and red-circled outliers?
• Are out of cycle increases done, and if so, under what circumstances?
• If there are jobs / functions that will go through more frequent reviews?
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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Prep for the Comp Review Meeting
1. Toolkit: Total Comp Statement, employee wage history, the team’s
wage history, job description, assigned goals
2. Scenarios to anticipate
3. Talking Points
4. Communication best practices
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
bamboohr.com payscale.com
Total Compensation
Statement
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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What Employees Want to Know
• Am I getting a raise?
• Am I getting a promotion? If not this cycle, then when is it
possible for my pay to be adjusted?
• How is my pay determined?
• What do I need to do to increase my value within the
organization and earn more?
• How does my pay compare to my peers?
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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Communication Tips
• Sell the organization and mention all its value drivers
• Point out what’s good about the employee’s offer (if their pay is high
relative to his or her peers)
• Listen to the employee’s concerns to figure out what’s behind the ask
• Let employee know what they can do to increase their value within
the organization and earn more
Understanding Comp
And Culture
Comp as Keystone to Culture
Culture is story
Everything you do
becomes part of that story…
The story of what you value
Compensation is the story
The story of how much you are valued.
Your
Company
Employee Journey
Journey of Re-engagement
Journey of Disengagement
ee
Employee Journey
Journey of Re-engagement
Journey of Disengagement
ee
IdIdentity
Howyouseeyourself
ObObjective
Whereyouaregoing
MeMeaning
Findingfulfillment
AlAlignment
Doingworkthatfits
MoMomentum
Beinginmotion
EnEnvironment
Culture,Cues,Ecosystem
LeLeadership
Havingaguide
PlPlan
Knowingwhattodo
SpSpace
Havingspacetowork
ReRelationship
People&connections
GrGrowth
Mastery&Progress
CoContribution
Havingimpact
RnRenewal
Restorationandbalance
VaValue
Totalrewards
InInvestment
Skininthegame
ScScore
Measuringprogress
The building blocks of high
performing people, teams,
and organizations.
of engagement, satisfaction, and performance
16ELEMENTS
INFLUENCERS:
Factors that fuel work
INPUTS:
What you need to work
ACTION:
Getting work done
OUTPUTS:
What you get from work
Employee Retention Fewer active elements means
less engagement mass
less gravitational pull
longer orbits, and
more risk of loss
ee
ee
Feeling appreciated, valued, and adequate rewarded for your effort.
Value
Total rewards
Va
Value
Rewards Recognition Compensation
Common
Conversation Scenarios
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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Conversation Scenarios
• No raise / budget, pay is already high
• No raise, performance doesn’t merit a raise
• Got a raise, disappointed that pay is not higher
• Employee brings their own salary data, asks for a raise
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
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No Raise, Pay is High
• Let them know their pay is high & where they are in the range
• Let them know how pay is determined
• What they can do to increase their earning potential going forward
• See if there’s other meaningful benefits you can provide
• Identify goals they can work on in the immediate future
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
bamboohr.com payscale.com
No Raise, Performance is Low
• Rationale for why they’re not eligible for a raise
• What actions they can take to be considered for an increase in the future
• Show them a way forward. Set specific performance goals to work on
• Set timeframe for checking in on progress
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
bamboohr.com payscale.com
Got a Raise, Not Happy
• Highlight their key accomplishments and how pay is linked directly to
those accomplishments
• Remind them of the market value for their role & skillset
• Discuss why pay is fair and your involvement in getting them the raise
• Listen to what’s behind the concern
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
bamboohr.com payscale.com
I found this salary report…
I need a raise.
• Not all data is relevant
• Reference your own data
• Explain the difference between pricing a job
versus pricing a person
Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
bamboohr.com payscale.com
Tips for Your Next Increase Cycle
• Start planning for your next increase cycle now
• Get feedback from increase cycle from managers & employees
• Involve managers early in the next cycle
• If you’re changing your timeline, let people know you’re changing it
• Collaborate with managers in one central location
Your
Company
Moment
of Peak
Engagement
(Flow)
Departure / Disengagement
Triggers
Emotional Distancing
Maximum
Emotional
Sensitivity
Maximum
Risk of
Departure
Decision to
Re-engage
Emotional Refueling Onboarding / Reboarding
Employee Journey
Organizational Waste
Journey of Re-engagement
Journey of Disengagement
Disengagement Diagnostics
Stay Interviews
eNPS
Pulse Survey’s
Optimal
Employee
Orbit (Circular)
“Re-hire”
& “Re-board”
Intervention
Opportunities
Lowest
Gravitational Pull
Making the Compensation
Conversation a Culture Builder
Don’t be offended
Be open
Take it seriously Be objective
Be proactive
Be Positive
Comp is about an
Exchange of Value
Not just Money
Experience	in	industry
Experience	in	market	vertical
Experience	in	adjacent	markets
Experience	in	field	of	discipline
Experience	in	adjacent	disciplines
Experience	with	competitors
Product	knowledge
Competitor	knowledge
Time	and	experience	in	company
Education
Discipline	training	and	certification
Supply	and	demand
Employer Value DriversEmployee Value Drivers
Base	pay
Performance	Pay
Paid	time	off
Benefits
Travel
Culture	and	environment
Work	flexibility
Work/Life	balance
Meaningful	work
Who	you	work	with
Challenging	work
Opportunity	to	impact
Job	security
Shared	purpose	/	mission
Career	advancement	opportunities
Autonomy
Senior	leadership
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Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
Rusty Lindquist Camie Bailey
Vice President, Thought Leadership
BambooHR
Comp Software Implementation Manager
PayScale
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Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide For Doing Them Right

  • 1. bamboohr.com payscale.com Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right
  • 2. bamboohr.com payscale.com Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right Rusty Lindquist Camie Bailey Vice President, Thought Leadership BambooHR Comp Software Implementation Manager PayScale
  • 4. TIME Visibility Technology Trigger Peak of inflated expectations Trough of disillusionment Slope of enlightenment Plateau of productivity GartnerHypeCycle
  • 5. TIME EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT Date of Hire Peak of inflated expectations Trough of disillusionment Slope of enlightenment Plateau of productivity EmployeeJourney
  • 6. TIME EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT Date of Hire Peak of inflated expectations Trough of disillusionment Slope of enlightenment Plateau of productivity Slope of Disengagement Slope of Re-engagement EmployeeJourney
  • 8. Employee Journey Moments of Peak Engagement At-Risk Exit Points
  • 10. Ultimate Individual “Why” The day you were born The day you find out why Life’s Journey
  • 11. Ultimate Individual “Why” The Orbit of Employee Engagement Life’s Journey The day you find out why The day you were born You e Your organization
  • 13. Your Company Moment of Peak Engagement (Flow) Departure / Disengagement Triggers Emotional Distancing Maximum Risk of Departure Decision to Re-engage Emotional Refueling Onboarding / Reboarding Employee Journey Journey of Re-engagement Journey of Disengagement Optimal Employee Orbit (Circular) “Re-hire” & “Re-board” Disengagement Diagnostics Stay Interviews eNPS Pulse Survey’s Intervention Opportunities Maximum Emotional Sensitivity Lowest Gravitational Pull e Organizational Waste
  • 15. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com There’s a Large Confidence Gap • 70% of conversations about pay happen between managers and employees (CEB) • Only 19% of companies say they’re ”very confident” in their managers’ abilities to have tough conversations about comp with employees (PayScale CBPR) • But only 1/3 have training for managers (PayScale CBPR)
  • 16. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Communicating the “WHY” of Pay Matters • Most employees don’t know if they’re paid fairly or not. • Perception of pay impacts employee satisfaction and intent to leave. • 82% of employees are okay with low pay as long as they understand the rationale.
  • 17. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com What Employees BelieveAbout Pay A survey of 71,000 people shows that most can’t identify how they’re paid compared to the market
  • 18. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com What Managers Need to Know 1. Your company’s compensation philosophy, strategy and policies 2. Process for communicating comp – timeline 3. How to conduct the compensation review meeting 4. Communication best practices
  • 19. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Compensation Philosophy Tell managers how transparent your organization intends to be
  • 20. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Strategy, Policies & Processes • Results from your most recent market study • How and when are market increases allocated? • How are merit-based increases determined? • How is range determined for a position? • What will happen to pay in case of a promotion, demotion or transfer? • What do you handle green-circled and red-circled outliers? • Are out of cycle increases done, and if so, under what circumstances? • If there are jobs / functions that will go through more frequent reviews?
  • 21. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Prep for the Comp Review Meeting 1. Toolkit: Total Comp Statement, employee wage history, the team’s wage history, job description, assigned goals 2. Scenarios to anticipate 3. Talking Points 4. Communication best practices
  • 22. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Total Compensation Statement
  • 23. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com
  • 24. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com What Employees Want to Know • Am I getting a raise? • Am I getting a promotion? If not this cycle, then when is it possible for my pay to be adjusted? • How is my pay determined? • What do I need to do to increase my value within the organization and earn more? • How does my pay compare to my peers?
  • 25. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Communication Tips • Sell the organization and mention all its value drivers • Point out what’s good about the employee’s offer (if their pay is high relative to his or her peers) • Listen to the employee’s concerns to figure out what’s behind the ask • Let employee know what they can do to increase their value within the organization and earn more
  • 27. Comp as Keystone to Culture
  • 28.
  • 29. Culture is story Everything you do becomes part of that story… The story of what you value
  • 30. Compensation is the story The story of how much you are valued.
  • 31. Your Company Employee Journey Journey of Re-engagement Journey of Disengagement ee
  • 32. Employee Journey Journey of Re-engagement Journey of Disengagement ee IdIdentity Howyouseeyourself ObObjective Whereyouaregoing MeMeaning Findingfulfillment AlAlignment Doingworkthatfits MoMomentum Beinginmotion EnEnvironment Culture,Cues,Ecosystem LeLeadership Havingaguide PlPlan Knowingwhattodo SpSpace Havingspacetowork ReRelationship People&connections GrGrowth Mastery&Progress CoContribution Havingimpact RnRenewal Restorationandbalance VaValue Totalrewards InInvestment Skininthegame ScScore Measuringprogress The building blocks of high performing people, teams, and organizations. of engagement, satisfaction, and performance 16ELEMENTS INFLUENCERS: Factors that fuel work INPUTS: What you need to work ACTION: Getting work done OUTPUTS: What you get from work
  • 33. Employee Retention Fewer active elements means less engagement mass less gravitational pull longer orbits, and more risk of loss ee ee
  • 34.
  • 35. Feeling appreciated, valued, and adequate rewarded for your effort. Value Total rewards Va Value Rewards Recognition Compensation
  • 37. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Conversation Scenarios • No raise / budget, pay is already high • No raise, performance doesn’t merit a raise • Got a raise, disappointed that pay is not higher • Employee brings their own salary data, asks for a raise
  • 38. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com No Raise, Pay is High • Let them know their pay is high & where they are in the range • Let them know how pay is determined • What they can do to increase their earning potential going forward • See if there’s other meaningful benefits you can provide • Identify goals they can work on in the immediate future
  • 39. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com No Raise, Performance is Low • Rationale for why they’re not eligible for a raise • What actions they can take to be considered for an increase in the future • Show them a way forward. Set specific performance goals to work on • Set timeframe for checking in on progress
  • 40. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Got a Raise, Not Happy • Highlight their key accomplishments and how pay is linked directly to those accomplishments • Remind them of the market value for their role & skillset • Discuss why pay is fair and your involvement in getting them the raise • Listen to what’s behind the concern
  • 41. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com I found this salary report… I need a raise. • Not all data is relevant • Reference your own data • Explain the difference between pricing a job versus pricing a person
  • 42. Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right bamboohr.com payscale.com Tips for Your Next Increase Cycle • Start planning for your next increase cycle now • Get feedback from increase cycle from managers & employees • Involve managers early in the next cycle • If you’re changing your timeline, let people know you’re changing it • Collaborate with managers in one central location
  • 43. Your Company Moment of Peak Engagement (Flow) Departure / Disengagement Triggers Emotional Distancing Maximum Emotional Sensitivity Maximum Risk of Departure Decision to Re-engage Emotional Refueling Onboarding / Reboarding Employee Journey Organizational Waste Journey of Re-engagement Journey of Disengagement Disengagement Diagnostics Stay Interviews eNPS Pulse Survey’s Optimal Employee Orbit (Circular) “Re-hire” & “Re-board” Intervention Opportunities Lowest Gravitational Pull
  • 44. Making the Compensation Conversation a Culture Builder Don’t be offended Be open Take it seriously Be objective Be proactive Be Positive
  • 45. Comp is about an Exchange of Value Not just Money Experience in industry Experience in market vertical Experience in adjacent markets Experience in field of discipline Experience in adjacent disciplines Experience with competitors Product knowledge Competitor knowledge Time and experience in company Education Discipline training and certification Supply and demand Employer Value DriversEmployee Value Drivers Base pay Performance Pay Paid time off Benefits Travel Culture and environment Work flexibility Work/Life balance Meaningful work Who you work with Challenging work Opportunity to impact Job security Shared purpose / mission Career advancement opportunities Autonomy Senior leadership
  • 46. bamboohr.com payscale.com Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right Thank you! BambooHR Receive a free job posting on our ATS and full HRIS for one week. We will contact everyone within a few days to set this up. Keep up with the latest in modern compensation best practices. PayScale Check out our blog Compensation Today: payscale.com/compensation-today
  • 47. bamboohr.com payscale.com Tough Comp Conversations: A Guide to Doing Them Right Rusty Lindquist Camie Bailey Vice President, Thought Leadership BambooHR Comp Software Implementation Manager PayScale Questions?