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Bringing Price Transparency to Healthcare 
Pathways to Leadership Series 
August 26, 2014 
1
Agenda 
•Housekeeping 
•Speaker Introductions 
•Presentation 
•Q&A 
•Conclusion 
2
Speakers 
Bill Kramer 
Executive Director, National Health Policy 
Pacific Business Group on Health 
San Francisco, Calif. 
Robert Shapiro 
ChiefFinancial Officer 
North Shore —LIJ Health System 
Long Island, N.Y. 
BrodieDychinco 
Vice President of Strategy 
HealthSparq 
Portland, Oregon 
3
Bill Kramer leads PBGH’s work to advance policy in ways that improve healthcare quality and reduce costs.Bill also serves as Project Director for the Consumer Purchaser Alliance, and on the National Quality Forum Board of Directors, the National Priorities Partnership, the Measure Applications Partnership Coordinating Committee, and the AQA Alliance Steering Group. Prior to joining PBGH in 2010, Bill led his own consulting practice in which he provided policy analysis and guidance on health reform. Bill was a senior executive with Kaiser Permanente for over 20 years and holds an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business and a Bachelor of Arts from Harvard. 
Bill Kramer 
Executive Director, National Health Policy 
Pacific Business Group on Health 
4
Bob Shapiro has been CFO since August 2000 and oversees financial affairs, treasury, budget and strategic planning, among other functions for North Shore —Long Island Jewish Health System. Prior to becoming CFO, he was VP Operations/Assistant Administrator. Bob began his career as a senior accountant with Blue Cross Blue Shield of Greater New York in the 1970s. He is an adjunct professor at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., where he teaches a graduate-level course in health systems finance. He is also a fellow of the Healthcare Financial Management Association. 
Robert Shapiro 
Chief Financial Officer, North Shore-LIJ Health System 
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Brodie Dychinco is the Vice President of Strategy for HealthSparq, a consumer transparency business of Cambia Health Solutions. Mr. Dychinco is particularly interested in helping to make choosing health care providers and treatment options more understandable, enabling consumers to take charge of their health. Mr. Dychinco's efforts were recognized by the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association in September 2012 with a "Best of Blue" award. His contributions in setting a national transparency standard and roadmap for the Blues, as well as his insight to health plans implementing transparency solutions, earned him the honor of being only the 12threcipient of the Guffey award. 
Brodie Dychinco 
Vice President of Strategy, HealthSparq 
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The Transparency Imperative 
Who is the Pacific Business Group on Health?
©PBGH 2011 8 
What Purchasers are Looking for: 
a Full Picture of a Provider’s Performance 
Quality + Price = Value 
• Clinical outcomes 
• Patient-reported outcomes and experience 
• Appropriateness based on guidelines 
• Total cost of care 
Requirements: 
• Willingness to share data 
• Ability to combine standardized data from 
different sources
©PBGH 2011 9 
The Patients’ Perspective 
Patients have 
a fundamental right to know 
about the quality and cost 
of the care they receive.
©PBGH 2011 10 
Price Transparency 
What it is (or could be): 
• A tool for payers, purchasers (employers) and 
policy-makers 
• (Maybe) – a tool for consumers 
• A key building block in containing overall health 
care costs by enhancing healthy competition 
on price and quality 
What it isn’t: 
• Publication of hospital or physician “charges” 
• The solution to all our problems
©PBGH 2011 11 
Price Transparency 
Price information should: 
• Reflect negotiated discounts 
• Include all costs associated with a 
service or services 
• Identify the consumer’s out-of-pocket 
costs
©PBGH 2011 12 
Audience(s) Types of Price Information Needed Example 
Purchasers/ 
Payers 
The total price of individual 
tests and procedures 
Price of a routine 
colonoscopy for use in 
reference pricing 
Purchasers/ 
Payers 
The total price of bundled 
services 
Price for a joint replacement 
for use in reference pricing 
and Centers of Excellence 
contracting 
Purchasers/ 
Payers 
The total price of care for 
patients with certain clinical 
conditions 
Price of managing a patient 
with diabetes 
Consumers, 
Providers 
Out-of-pocket price to 
consumers 
Price of an office visit, test or 
procedure 
Policymakers / 
Regulators 
Trends in prices within and 
across geographies and payer 
type 
Bundled price of a spinal 
surgery 
Uses of Price Transparency
Poll Question #1 
Which group do you think is applying the most pressure for price transparency? 
•Payers 
•Patients/Consumers 
•Advocacy Groups 
•Government/Policymakers 
•Providers 
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©PBGH 2011 14 
Using Price Transparency in 
Value-Based Benefit Design 
• Set a payment threshold or 
“reference price” for certain 
elective procedures 
• Patient can choose any 
provider, but pays full 
amount above reference 
price
©PBGH 2013 15 
CalPERS: applying the concept 
to hip/knee replacements 
• Prices varied from $15,000 to $110,000 
(commercial PPO population) 
• Anthem Blue Cross and CalPERS 
established a reference price. 
• Results: 
• Increased volume of procedures at 
low-cost hospitals by ~7% 
• Amount paid per surgery ~26% lower 
in pilot
©PBGH 2011 16 
Safeway: applying the concept 
to colonoscopies 
• Prices ranged from $887 to $7,245 – an 
8x variation – with no apparent 
differences in quality. 
• Use of reference price encouraged 
patients to use more efficient providers.
©PBGH 2011 17 
Range of Prices for Colonoscopies 
Cost Per Procedure – SF Bay Area MSA 
$887 
$916 
$925 
$932 
$965 
$981 
$1,015 
$1,110 
$1,169 
$1,249 
$1,428 
$1,463 
$1,530 
$1,535 
$1,642 
$1,643 
$1,713 
$1,721 
$1,728 
$1,963 
$1,994 
$2,099 
$2,309 
$2,320 
$2,451 
$2,771 
$2,816 
$2,876 
$2,881 
$2,987 
$3,013 
$3,039 
$3,049 
$3,271 
$3,301 
$3,318 
$3,333 
$3,367 
$3,647 
$3,769 
$3,793 
$4,518 
$4,576 
$5,596 
$5,682 
$5,734 
$7,245 
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©PBGH 2011 18 
Policies to Advance 
Transparency 
 Prohibit gag clauses 
 Require participation in all-payer 
databases; provide funding 
 Allow “qualified entities” to sell 
data and analyses 
 Standardize measures of cost 
and quality
©PBGH 2011 19 
Why providers should start now 
Consumer expectations 
Purchaser expectations 
 High-value providers will be 
the winners – increased 
volume
About North Shore-LIJ 
•17 facilities 
•4,507 beds 
•673,524 ED visits 
•254,700+ inpatient admissions 
20
$17M 
$150M 
Drivers of Transparency at North Shore-LIJ 
1. New York Public Health Law, passed in 2002 
2. Large Uninsured Population 
3. Increased Patient Financial Responsibility 
21
Strategy 1: Call Center 
22 
Created collection agency to reduce costs imposed by third-party agencies 
Segregated 3rd-party billing and integrated self-pay billing 
Led to a call center very familiar with the uninsured—an evolution from a collection agency to a help center.
Strategy 1: Call Center 
23 
Best Practices 
Form unit for patients with financial assistance policy 
Follow script to ensure consistent communication, 
Aggregate functions with regard to payment and billing
Strategy 2: Patient Tools 
•Patient Financial Assistance Programs 
•“Understand Your Bill” 
•Make a Payment 
•Hospital Insurance Plans 
•Estimate Your Personal Expense –Calculator 
•Submit an Insurance Claim 
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Tools on NorthShoreLIJ.com
Spotlight On: Cost Estimator 
Patients care about what they can expect to pay out of pocket. 
The estimates arepresented as ranges rather than a single number. 
Next step: Bundling related procedures often done in tandem 
25
Why Our Patient Tools Work 
We’ve expanded the call center to handle questions about the price estimator. 
The rundown includes what insurance coverage is expected to pay and what the deductible is expected to be. 
The financial assistance phone number is available when an estimate is not available via the web-based tool. 
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North Shore-LIJ has received 10,000inquiries about price.
Next Steps for LIJ 
27 
Address government requirements to post chargemaster 
Competitive Pricing 
Move to complete price transparency in 5 years
Amovementtoempowerconsumerswithinteractivetoolsandinformationsothattheycanchooseprovidersandtreatmentoptionsinamoreinformed, convenient,andvalue-drivenway. 
What is transparency?
Affordable care options exist today 
Shoulder arthroscopy 
In Dallas 
$3,000 
to 
$26,000 
In Seattle 
$2,000 to $18,000 
In Boston 
$4,000 to $22,000
50% 
Lower Cost 
Higher Quality Adherence 
No correlation between cost and quality
web- based tools 
Where can we go for answers? 
wellness initiatives 
health assessment 
DM programs
Are we ready for Health-azon?
The information consumers value 
cost 
quality 
convenience 
social
Poll Question #2 
How often do YOU (as a patient) inquire/educate yourself about cost before receiving or seeking medical treatment or care? 
•Never 
•Rarely 
•Sometimes 
•Often 
•Every time 
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Shopping tools do work… 
Gallbladder Removal 
Inpatient 
Outpatient 
Surgical 
$19,102 
$11,107 
$6,360 
Cost Estimator users choose 
Non-users choose 
Average Cost 
Least expensive 
Most expensive 
41% 
55% 
10% 
70% 
20% 
4% 
(2 year period of regional health plan’s claims history)
… when they are used 
Inpatient 
Outpatient 
Surgical 
$19,102 
$11,107 
$6,360 
Average Cost 
Least expensive 
Most expensive 
$10,319 
Average Cost for Cost Estimatorusers 
$14,195 
Average Cost for Non-users 
Gallbladder Removal 
(2 year period of regional health plan’s claims history)
Proactive campaigns 
Analysis and engagement 
Conveniences 
Take engagement and design to the next level
Q&A 
Bill Kramer 
Executive Director, National Health Policy 
Pacific Business Group on Health 
San Francisco, Calif. 
Robert Shapiro 
ChiefFinancial Officer 
North Shore —LIJ Health System 
Long Island, N.Y. 
BrodieDychinco 
Vice President of Strategy 
HealthSparq 
Portland, Oregon 
39

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Sponsored Webinar: Bringing Price Transparency to Healthcare

  • 1. Bringing Price Transparency to Healthcare Pathways to Leadership Series August 26, 2014 1
  • 2. Agenda •Housekeeping •Speaker Introductions •Presentation •Q&A •Conclusion 2
  • 3. Speakers Bill Kramer Executive Director, National Health Policy Pacific Business Group on Health San Francisco, Calif. Robert Shapiro ChiefFinancial Officer North Shore —LIJ Health System Long Island, N.Y. BrodieDychinco Vice President of Strategy HealthSparq Portland, Oregon 3
  • 4. Bill Kramer leads PBGH’s work to advance policy in ways that improve healthcare quality and reduce costs.Bill also serves as Project Director for the Consumer Purchaser Alliance, and on the National Quality Forum Board of Directors, the National Priorities Partnership, the Measure Applications Partnership Coordinating Committee, and the AQA Alliance Steering Group. Prior to joining PBGH in 2010, Bill led his own consulting practice in which he provided policy analysis and guidance on health reform. Bill was a senior executive with Kaiser Permanente for over 20 years and holds an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business and a Bachelor of Arts from Harvard. Bill Kramer Executive Director, National Health Policy Pacific Business Group on Health 4
  • 5. Bob Shapiro has been CFO since August 2000 and oversees financial affairs, treasury, budget and strategic planning, among other functions for North Shore —Long Island Jewish Health System. Prior to becoming CFO, he was VP Operations/Assistant Administrator. Bob began his career as a senior accountant with Blue Cross Blue Shield of Greater New York in the 1970s. He is an adjunct professor at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., where he teaches a graduate-level course in health systems finance. He is also a fellow of the Healthcare Financial Management Association. Robert Shapiro Chief Financial Officer, North Shore-LIJ Health System 5
  • 6. Brodie Dychinco is the Vice President of Strategy for HealthSparq, a consumer transparency business of Cambia Health Solutions. Mr. Dychinco is particularly interested in helping to make choosing health care providers and treatment options more understandable, enabling consumers to take charge of their health. Mr. Dychinco's efforts were recognized by the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association in September 2012 with a "Best of Blue" award. His contributions in setting a national transparency standard and roadmap for the Blues, as well as his insight to health plans implementing transparency solutions, earned him the honor of being only the 12threcipient of the Guffey award. Brodie Dychinco Vice President of Strategy, HealthSparq 6
  • 7. The Transparency Imperative Who is the Pacific Business Group on Health?
  • 8. ©PBGH 2011 8 What Purchasers are Looking for: a Full Picture of a Provider’s Performance Quality + Price = Value • Clinical outcomes • Patient-reported outcomes and experience • Appropriateness based on guidelines • Total cost of care Requirements: • Willingness to share data • Ability to combine standardized data from different sources
  • 9. ©PBGH 2011 9 The Patients’ Perspective Patients have a fundamental right to know about the quality and cost of the care they receive.
  • 10. ©PBGH 2011 10 Price Transparency What it is (or could be): • A tool for payers, purchasers (employers) and policy-makers • (Maybe) – a tool for consumers • A key building block in containing overall health care costs by enhancing healthy competition on price and quality What it isn’t: • Publication of hospital or physician “charges” • The solution to all our problems
  • 11. ©PBGH 2011 11 Price Transparency Price information should: • Reflect negotiated discounts • Include all costs associated with a service or services • Identify the consumer’s out-of-pocket costs
  • 12. ©PBGH 2011 12 Audience(s) Types of Price Information Needed Example Purchasers/ Payers The total price of individual tests and procedures Price of a routine colonoscopy for use in reference pricing Purchasers/ Payers The total price of bundled services Price for a joint replacement for use in reference pricing and Centers of Excellence contracting Purchasers/ Payers The total price of care for patients with certain clinical conditions Price of managing a patient with diabetes Consumers, Providers Out-of-pocket price to consumers Price of an office visit, test or procedure Policymakers / Regulators Trends in prices within and across geographies and payer type Bundled price of a spinal surgery Uses of Price Transparency
  • 13. Poll Question #1 Which group do you think is applying the most pressure for price transparency? •Payers •Patients/Consumers •Advocacy Groups •Government/Policymakers •Providers 13
  • 14. ©PBGH 2011 14 Using Price Transparency in Value-Based Benefit Design • Set a payment threshold or “reference price” for certain elective procedures • Patient can choose any provider, but pays full amount above reference price
  • 15. ©PBGH 2013 15 CalPERS: applying the concept to hip/knee replacements • Prices varied from $15,000 to $110,000 (commercial PPO population) • Anthem Blue Cross and CalPERS established a reference price. • Results: • Increased volume of procedures at low-cost hospitals by ~7% • Amount paid per surgery ~26% lower in pilot
  • 16. ©PBGH 2011 16 Safeway: applying the concept to colonoscopies • Prices ranged from $887 to $7,245 – an 8x variation – with no apparent differences in quality. • Use of reference price encouraged patients to use more efficient providers.
  • 17. ©PBGH 2011 17 Range of Prices for Colonoscopies Cost Per Procedure – SF Bay Area MSA $887 $916 $925 $932 $965 $981 $1,015 $1,110 $1,169 $1,249 $1,428 $1,463 $1,530 $1,535 $1,642 $1,643 $1,713 $1,721 $1,728 $1,963 $1,994 $2,099 $2,309 $2,320 $2,451 $2,771 $2,816 $2,876 $2,881 $2,987 $3,013 $3,039 $3,049 $3,271 $3,301 $3,318 $3,333 $3,367 $3,647 $3,769 $3,793 $4,518 $4,576 $5,596 $5,682 $5,734 $7,245 A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z AA BB CC DD EE FF GG HH II JJ KK LL MM NN OO PP QQ RR SS TT UU Room & Supplies Professional Medications Diagnostics Diagnostic Colonoscopy Providers
  • 18. ©PBGH 2011 18 Policies to Advance Transparency  Prohibit gag clauses  Require participation in all-payer databases; provide funding  Allow “qualified entities” to sell data and analyses  Standardize measures of cost and quality
  • 19. ©PBGH 2011 19 Why providers should start now Consumer expectations Purchaser expectations  High-value providers will be the winners – increased volume
  • 20. About North Shore-LIJ •17 facilities •4,507 beds •673,524 ED visits •254,700+ inpatient admissions 20
  • 21. $17M $150M Drivers of Transparency at North Shore-LIJ 1. New York Public Health Law, passed in 2002 2. Large Uninsured Population 3. Increased Patient Financial Responsibility 21
  • 22. Strategy 1: Call Center 22 Created collection agency to reduce costs imposed by third-party agencies Segregated 3rd-party billing and integrated self-pay billing Led to a call center very familiar with the uninsured—an evolution from a collection agency to a help center.
  • 23. Strategy 1: Call Center 23 Best Practices Form unit for patients with financial assistance policy Follow script to ensure consistent communication, Aggregate functions with regard to payment and billing
  • 24. Strategy 2: Patient Tools •Patient Financial Assistance Programs •“Understand Your Bill” •Make a Payment •Hospital Insurance Plans •Estimate Your Personal Expense –Calculator •Submit an Insurance Claim 24 Tools on NorthShoreLIJ.com
  • 25. Spotlight On: Cost Estimator Patients care about what they can expect to pay out of pocket. The estimates arepresented as ranges rather than a single number. Next step: Bundling related procedures often done in tandem 25
  • 26. Why Our Patient Tools Work We’ve expanded the call center to handle questions about the price estimator. The rundown includes what insurance coverage is expected to pay and what the deductible is expected to be. The financial assistance phone number is available when an estimate is not available via the web-based tool. 26 North Shore-LIJ has received 10,000inquiries about price.
  • 27. Next Steps for LIJ 27 Address government requirements to post chargemaster Competitive Pricing Move to complete price transparency in 5 years
  • 29. Affordable care options exist today Shoulder arthroscopy In Dallas $3,000 to $26,000 In Seattle $2,000 to $18,000 In Boston $4,000 to $22,000
  • 30. 50% Lower Cost Higher Quality Adherence No correlation between cost and quality
  • 31. web- based tools Where can we go for answers? wellness initiatives health assessment DM programs
  • 32. Are we ready for Health-azon?
  • 33. The information consumers value cost quality convenience social
  • 34. Poll Question #2 How often do YOU (as a patient) inquire/educate yourself about cost before receiving or seeking medical treatment or care? •Never •Rarely •Sometimes •Often •Every time 34
  • 35. Shopping tools do work… Gallbladder Removal Inpatient Outpatient Surgical $19,102 $11,107 $6,360 Cost Estimator users choose Non-users choose Average Cost Least expensive Most expensive 41% 55% 10% 70% 20% 4% (2 year period of regional health plan’s claims history)
  • 36. … when they are used Inpatient Outpatient Surgical $19,102 $11,107 $6,360 Average Cost Least expensive Most expensive $10,319 Average Cost for Cost Estimatorusers $14,195 Average Cost for Non-users Gallbladder Removal (2 year period of regional health plan’s claims history)
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  • 38. Proactive campaigns Analysis and engagement Conveniences Take engagement and design to the next level
  • 39. Q&A Bill Kramer Executive Director, National Health Policy Pacific Business Group on Health San Francisco, Calif. Robert Shapiro ChiefFinancial Officer North Shore —LIJ Health System Long Island, N.Y. BrodieDychinco Vice President of Strategy HealthSparq Portland, Oregon 39