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Roma Bhatia and Egor Buharin



Mentor: Zachary Meisel, MD
   Pre-hospital emergency medical services
    (EMS) provide care for over 20 million
    patients annually.

   Nearly all episodes of EMS care are completed
    when the provider “hands off” a patient to
    emergency department (ED) personnel.
◦Examine attitudes, beliefs among a diverse group of
stakeholders and participants
◦Characterize perceptions of barriers to high quality
handoffs; to identify variations in these perceptions
by thematic factors.
◦Characterize perceptions of relative value of EMS
handoffs as it relates to patient safety among a
diverse group of stakeholders.
   Job description

   Salary

   Education/training
   Perform tests essential for the detection,
    diagnosis, and treatment of disease.

   At times, assigned to aid nurses in the
    Emergency Department when exceptionally
    busy.

   $26,000 annual salary

   Bachelor of Science, majoring in clinical-
    laboratory science (4 year degree)
   Assess injuries, administer emergency
    medical care, and extricate trapped
    individuals. Transport injured or sick persons
    to medical facilities.

   $36,000 annual salary

   140 hours course (often completed in 3-6
    months)
   Entirely encompasses EMTs scope of practice.

   Paramedics are trained in the use of 30-40
    medications, depending on the state.

   Set-up IVs and administer advanced airway
    maintenance intervention.

   $55,000 annual salary

   1400 – 1800 hours training (2 year degree)
   Treat patients, educate patients and the public about
    various medical conditions, and provide advice and
    emotional support to patients' family members. RNs
    record patients' medical histories and symptoms,
    help perform diagnostic tests and analyze results,
    operate medical machinery, administer treatment and
    medications, and help with patient follow-up and
    rehabilitation.

   Mean salary: $72,000

   Bachelor's degree, an associate degree, and a
    diploma from an approved nursing program (2 to 4
    years)
   Diagnose illnesses and prescribe and administer
    treatment for people suffering from injury or
    disease.

   Examine patients, obtain medical histories, and
    order, perform, and interpret diagnostic tests.
    They counsel patients on diet, hygiene, and
    preventive healthcare.

   Annual salary: $234,000

   Undergraduate (4 yrs) + medical school (4 yrs) +
    residency (3 yrs) + fellowship (2 yrs) = 13 years
Healthcare Personel annual Salaries
                $80,000



                $70,000



                $60,000



                $50,000
Annual Salary




                $40,000



                $30,000



                $20,000



                $10,000



                    $0
                          Medical Tech              EMT             Paramedic           Nurse


                                                                         Medical Tech     $26,000
                                                                         EMT              $36,000
                                                                         Paramedic        $55,000
                                                                         Nurse            $72,000
Annual Salaries of Healthcare Personel
                $250,000




                $200,000




                $150,000
Annual Salary




                $100,000




                 $50,000




                     $0
                           Medical Tech           EMT         Paramedic         Nurse      ER Physician

                                                                          Medical Tech    $26,000
                                                                          EMT             $36,000
                                                                          Paramedic       $55,000
                                                                          Nurse           $72,000
                                                                          ER Physician   $234,000
Years of Initial Training of Healthcare Personel
                            14




                            12




                            10
Years of Initial Training




                             8




                             6




                             4




                             2




                             0
                                 Medical Technitians       EMT           Paramedics      ER Nurse             ER Physician

                                                                                        Medical Technitians        4
                                                                                        EMT                      0.5
                                                                                        Paramedics                 2
                                                                                        ER Nurse                   4
                                                                                        ER Physician              13
   Dispatched to fall incident.

   Unresponsive 68 year old male.

   Relative – Claims p/t suffers from history high BP

   Show altered mental status (signs of stroke)

   Hospital choice

   Divert + Stroke Center vs Non-Divert hospital
   Use of focus groups vs. surveys
    ◦ How are points of view constructed?
    ◦ How are points of view expressed?
   7 X 1 hour focus group
    transcripts

   Focus groups divided
    by professional
    category

   Participants offered
    refreshments and $25
    gift card.
   Annual Meeting of the National Association of
    EMS Physicians (NAEMSP)
    ◦ Includes: Physicians, paramedics, nurses,
      administrators, educators, and researchers.

   Conducted focus groups:
        EMS medical directors/physicians;
        Non physician EMS professionals;
        Nursing personnel.
   EMS Today/JEMS Conference and Expo
    ◦ Largest national convention for EMS professionals—
      with over 4,000 members in attendance.


   Conducted Focus Groups:
    ◦ EMT paramedics-extensive training, broad scope of
      practice.
    ◦ EMT basic/intermediate-limited training, limited
      scope of practice
    ◦ Nursing personnel
   Conduct separate groups
    ◦ To maximize the shared experiences
    ◦ Known authority gradient (e.g., between medical
      directors who supervise paramedics and
      paramedics themselves)

   Utilized sampling model to obtain variety of
    professionals in genders, races, and training
    levels.

   Moderated by Dr. Zachary Meisel, MD (PI).
   Explore how the handoff usually occurs.
   Examine positive or negative experiences
    associated with handoff.
   Determine important components to
    communicate/know in handoffs.
   Understand barriers to high quality handoff
   Evaluate the role of trust/perceived trust in
    handoffs
   Assess global and relative value of handoff
    process as compared to other key aspects of
    emergency care.
Roma
   To obtain
    inter-rater
    reliability
   Attitudes/judgments towards me
   Receptiveness
   Mannerisms/personality/professionalism
   Relationships/familiarity/socializing
   Competence
Structural Aspects
    Who? Where? When? How? How long?


                Attitudes and
                beliefs

                                Process
•   Training
                                outcomes
•   Local
                                • Time to
    culture
                                   Antibiotics
•   Trust
                                • Door to
•   Perceived
                                   Balloon
    Trust
                      Patient   • tPA window
                      Factors      for stroke
                  •    Race
                  •    Age                       Patient outcomes
                  •    Gender
                  •    Acuity
   [paramedic referring to a specific hospital]

    ◦ “… I am pretty capable of convincing patients to not
      make me take them to [Hospital X] because I don’t
      want to deal with the nursing staff there.”

    ◦ “There’s a hospital near me that I will not go to
      because of the attitude unless it’s a trauma that you
      have to go there.”
◦ “I now feel much better knowing that they trust my
  treatment, knowing that they trust my assessments
  and things of that sort and being able to
  handle…like it’s a lot easier going in there.”
   The role of EMT’s in healthcare

      “And that we are not glorified taxi drivers.”

      “Because I think there’s so many people that don’t
       understand EMS that work in the hospital setting, and
       … having somebody that understands EMS and doesn’t
       just look at us as ambulance drivers that brought the
       patient, and realize what we can do in the field, to be
       able to interact on that level I think would really help
       as far as being able to relay information.”
Mod: So how often does that happen where you get to talk to even
a doctor when you bring the patient in?

   R: Not often enough.

   R: Not often. You talk to a nurse more than anything. And
    sometimes you don’t even get a nurse. Sometimes you get a…

   R: Nursing assistant?…

   R: Or yeah, an ER tech. Now pretty much an ER tech is our
    level…

   R: The same level [as EMTs] and it’s not even worth it like to
    sign off because you’re not even really passing it to a person of
    higher authority.
◦ “Sick is sick. You’re a hospital. It doesn’t say at the
  front door “We only take traumas only. Sick people go
  next door.”

◦ [referring to Trauma cases] “They’re the ones you had
  your business for.”
◦ I came in with this lady, she was pretty bad, in her
  eighties. And I came in and of course they [hospital]
  were on diversion… But so I walked in and they had no
  idea I was coming in and they just looked at me like a
  deer in the headlights, like “What are we supposed to do
  with the patient ?” They didn’t have anywhere to put it
  or… And I was just like “Help please!” And the doctor
  was very rude . She was just like “Why do you keep on
  coming here with these sick patients? We’re on divert.” I
  mean the hospital was like two blocks from her house so
  I really didn’t have a choice. And it didn’t make for a
  very good experience and the nursing staff was very
  nasty. They just kept on telling me “Don’t come back.
  Don’t come back again. Don’t come back.”
Mod: What do you guys do if there are…if you feel like you’re
talking past each other

I just reiterate why, my point, and then I laugh at them when they
rush right up to CAT scan when they find something. And they
come “Well oh, it was something.” Maybe next time you should
listen to the paramedic, you know.

[In response to hospital disrespect targeting EMS]
Mod: So you think that some of that is personality trait or…

   And that’s when they have a personality… And I do a little
    planning or games and ok, well now you’re getting the next
    fifteen patients ‘cause you ticked me off with this one. And
    that’s not the right thing to do, but unfortunately I think in all
    walks of life you have all… Depending on personalities…
Structural Aspects
    Who? Where? When? How? How long?


                Attitudes and
                beliefs

                                Process
•   Training
                                outcomes
•   Local
                                • Time to
    culture
                                   Antibiotics
•   Trust
                                • Door to
•   Perceived
                                   Balloon
    Trust
                      Patient   • tPA window
                      Factors      for stroke
                  •    Race
                  •    Age                       Patient outcomes
                  •    Gender
                  •    Acuity
   Study is first evaluation of the pre-hospital to
    hospital transition of care.
   Goal: inform local and large scale efforts to
    improve the process.
   Next step: trials of quality improvement
    informed by the results of these studies.
   Personality, professionalism, and mannerisms
    can drive patient outcomes.

   Poor standardization of the healthcare
    system.

   Modes of deriving statistical significance from
    qualitative data.
   Job Descriptions: BLS.gov

   Salaries: specified to the Philadelphia region –
    indeed.com

   Hypothetical: Egor’s experiences in EMS
   Dr. Zachary Meisel

   Joanne Levy
   Lissy Madden
   Meagan Pellegrino
   Hoag Levins
   Renee Zawacki

   SUMR Sponsors

   SUMR Scholars

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Emergency Care and Readmissions

  • 1. Roma Bhatia and Egor Buharin Mentor: Zachary Meisel, MD
  • 2. Pre-hospital emergency medical services (EMS) provide care for over 20 million patients annually.  Nearly all episodes of EMS care are completed when the provider “hands off” a patient to emergency department (ED) personnel.
  • 3. ◦Examine attitudes, beliefs among a diverse group of stakeholders and participants ◦Characterize perceptions of barriers to high quality handoffs; to identify variations in these perceptions by thematic factors. ◦Characterize perceptions of relative value of EMS handoffs as it relates to patient safety among a diverse group of stakeholders.
  • 4. Job description  Salary  Education/training
  • 5. Perform tests essential for the detection, diagnosis, and treatment of disease.  At times, assigned to aid nurses in the Emergency Department when exceptionally busy.  $26,000 annual salary  Bachelor of Science, majoring in clinical- laboratory science (4 year degree)
  • 6. Assess injuries, administer emergency medical care, and extricate trapped individuals. Transport injured or sick persons to medical facilities.  $36,000 annual salary  140 hours course (often completed in 3-6 months)
  • 7. Entirely encompasses EMTs scope of practice.  Paramedics are trained in the use of 30-40 medications, depending on the state.  Set-up IVs and administer advanced airway maintenance intervention.  $55,000 annual salary  1400 – 1800 hours training (2 year degree)
  • 8. Treat patients, educate patients and the public about various medical conditions, and provide advice and emotional support to patients' family members. RNs record patients' medical histories and symptoms, help perform diagnostic tests and analyze results, operate medical machinery, administer treatment and medications, and help with patient follow-up and rehabilitation.  Mean salary: $72,000  Bachelor's degree, an associate degree, and a diploma from an approved nursing program (2 to 4 years)
  • 9. Diagnose illnesses and prescribe and administer treatment for people suffering from injury or disease.  Examine patients, obtain medical histories, and order, perform, and interpret diagnostic tests. They counsel patients on diet, hygiene, and preventive healthcare.  Annual salary: $234,000  Undergraduate (4 yrs) + medical school (4 yrs) + residency (3 yrs) + fellowship (2 yrs) = 13 years
  • 10. Healthcare Personel annual Salaries $80,000 $70,000 $60,000 $50,000 Annual Salary $40,000 $30,000 $20,000 $10,000 $0 Medical Tech EMT Paramedic Nurse Medical Tech $26,000 EMT $36,000 Paramedic $55,000 Nurse $72,000
  • 11. Annual Salaries of Healthcare Personel $250,000 $200,000 $150,000 Annual Salary $100,000 $50,000 $0 Medical Tech EMT Paramedic Nurse ER Physician Medical Tech $26,000 EMT $36,000 Paramedic $55,000 Nurse $72,000 ER Physician $234,000
  • 12. Years of Initial Training of Healthcare Personel 14 12 10 Years of Initial Training 8 6 4 2 0 Medical Technitians EMT Paramedics ER Nurse ER Physician Medical Technitians 4 EMT 0.5 Paramedics 2 ER Nurse 4 ER Physician 13
  • 13. Dispatched to fall incident.  Unresponsive 68 year old male.  Relative – Claims p/t suffers from history high BP  Show altered mental status (signs of stroke)  Hospital choice  Divert + Stroke Center vs Non-Divert hospital
  • 14. Use of focus groups vs. surveys ◦ How are points of view constructed? ◦ How are points of view expressed?
  • 15. 7 X 1 hour focus group transcripts  Focus groups divided by professional category  Participants offered refreshments and $25 gift card.
  • 16. Annual Meeting of the National Association of EMS Physicians (NAEMSP) ◦ Includes: Physicians, paramedics, nurses, administrators, educators, and researchers.  Conducted focus groups:  EMS medical directors/physicians;  Non physician EMS professionals;  Nursing personnel.
  • 17. EMS Today/JEMS Conference and Expo ◦ Largest national convention for EMS professionals— with over 4,000 members in attendance.  Conducted Focus Groups: ◦ EMT paramedics-extensive training, broad scope of practice. ◦ EMT basic/intermediate-limited training, limited scope of practice ◦ Nursing personnel
  • 18. Conduct separate groups ◦ To maximize the shared experiences ◦ Known authority gradient (e.g., between medical directors who supervise paramedics and paramedics themselves)  Utilized sampling model to obtain variety of professionals in genders, races, and training levels.  Moderated by Dr. Zachary Meisel, MD (PI).
  • 19. Explore how the handoff usually occurs.  Examine positive or negative experiences associated with handoff.  Determine important components to communicate/know in handoffs.  Understand barriers to high quality handoff  Evaluate the role of trust/perceived trust in handoffs  Assess global and relative value of handoff process as compared to other key aspects of emergency care.
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  • 23. Roma
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  • 25. To obtain inter-rater reliability
  • 26. Attitudes/judgments towards me  Receptiveness  Mannerisms/personality/professionalism  Relationships/familiarity/socializing  Competence
  • 27. Structural Aspects Who? Where? When? How? How long? Attitudes and beliefs Process • Training outcomes • Local • Time to culture Antibiotics • Trust • Door to • Perceived Balloon Trust Patient • tPA window Factors for stroke • Race • Age Patient outcomes • Gender • Acuity
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  • 29. [paramedic referring to a specific hospital] ◦ “… I am pretty capable of convincing patients to not make me take them to [Hospital X] because I don’t want to deal with the nursing staff there.” ◦ “There’s a hospital near me that I will not go to because of the attitude unless it’s a trauma that you have to go there.”
  • 30. ◦ “I now feel much better knowing that they trust my treatment, knowing that they trust my assessments and things of that sort and being able to handle…like it’s a lot easier going in there.”
  • 31. The role of EMT’s in healthcare  “And that we are not glorified taxi drivers.”  “Because I think there’s so many people that don’t understand EMS that work in the hospital setting, and … having somebody that understands EMS and doesn’t just look at us as ambulance drivers that brought the patient, and realize what we can do in the field, to be able to interact on that level I think would really help as far as being able to relay information.”
  • 32. Mod: So how often does that happen where you get to talk to even a doctor when you bring the patient in?  R: Not often enough.  R: Not often. You talk to a nurse more than anything. And sometimes you don’t even get a nurse. Sometimes you get a…  R: Nursing assistant?…  R: Or yeah, an ER tech. Now pretty much an ER tech is our level…  R: The same level [as EMTs] and it’s not even worth it like to sign off because you’re not even really passing it to a person of higher authority.
  • 33. ◦ “Sick is sick. You’re a hospital. It doesn’t say at the front door “We only take traumas only. Sick people go next door.” ◦ [referring to Trauma cases] “They’re the ones you had your business for.”
  • 34. ◦ I came in with this lady, she was pretty bad, in her eighties. And I came in and of course they [hospital] were on diversion… But so I walked in and they had no idea I was coming in and they just looked at me like a deer in the headlights, like “What are we supposed to do with the patient ?” They didn’t have anywhere to put it or… And I was just like “Help please!” And the doctor was very rude . She was just like “Why do you keep on coming here with these sick patients? We’re on divert.” I mean the hospital was like two blocks from her house so I really didn’t have a choice. And it didn’t make for a very good experience and the nursing staff was very nasty. They just kept on telling me “Don’t come back. Don’t come back again. Don’t come back.”
  • 35. Mod: What do you guys do if there are…if you feel like you’re talking past each other I just reiterate why, my point, and then I laugh at them when they rush right up to CAT scan when they find something. And they come “Well oh, it was something.” Maybe next time you should listen to the paramedic, you know. [In response to hospital disrespect targeting EMS] Mod: So you think that some of that is personality trait or…  And that’s when they have a personality… And I do a little planning or games and ok, well now you’re getting the next fifteen patients ‘cause you ticked me off with this one. And that’s not the right thing to do, but unfortunately I think in all walks of life you have all… Depending on personalities…
  • 36. Structural Aspects Who? Where? When? How? How long? Attitudes and beliefs Process • Training outcomes • Local • Time to culture Antibiotics • Trust • Door to • Perceived Balloon Trust Patient • tPA window Factors for stroke • Race • Age Patient outcomes • Gender • Acuity
  • 37. Study is first evaluation of the pre-hospital to hospital transition of care.  Goal: inform local and large scale efforts to improve the process.  Next step: trials of quality improvement informed by the results of these studies.
  • 38. Personality, professionalism, and mannerisms can drive patient outcomes.  Poor standardization of the healthcare system.  Modes of deriving statistical significance from qualitative data.
  • 39. Job Descriptions: BLS.gov  Salaries: specified to the Philadelphia region – indeed.com  Hypothetical: Egor’s experiences in EMS
  • 40. Dr. Zachary Meisel  Joanne Levy  Lissy Madden  Meagan Pellegrino  Hoag Levins  Renee Zawacki  SUMR Sponsors  SUMR Scholars