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Jeffrey N. Codd, LC
Don McDougall
Jeffrey N. Codd, LC
Don McDougall
Identify and explain the following relative to an LED project
 Importance of Non-financial factors to financial decision makers
 Difference between the COST of LED vs the PRICE of LED
 Key financial metrics and cash flow projections
 The change in Market Value of a property created by an LED upgrade
Recommend additional streams of financial benefit to improve returns
aka Why should the CFO care?aka Why should the CFO care?
Limitations of Traditional Financial Measures
Tell part of the story
• Fail to capture
• Qualitative
• Performance
• Hard to measure
Non-traditional Considerations
• Nuisance Factors
• Intensity & Beam
• Color Quality & Stability
• Warranty
• Are LEDs ready yet?
• Mock Ups
• Cost of waiting
Nuisance Factors
• How much would it be worth
for your Building Engineer to
focus on more meaningful
activities?
• Dark spots between
replacements
• Mis-aiming during
replacement
->Integrity of design
Image: thechronicleherald.ca
Long Life of LED systems minimizes the following
• Would your conversion rate
increase if all your lamps are lit
and store personnel are selling /
merchandising?
Beam & Intensity
Single vs Multi OpticBeam Quality &
Intensity
DOE June 2012
Color Quality
CFL adoption as proxy for LEDs
• Not just about payback
CRI, Full Spectrum, R9
• Sales impact of poorly lit merchandise
• Office / industrial / warehouse
productivity impact
• Hospitality guest experience
• More accurate health evaluation
Graph: US DOE Energy Star Market Profile| March 2009
Color Stability
Impact:
• Guest experience impaired
• Poorly lit merchandise
-> reduced sales
• Worker productivity decrease
-> production costs / quality issues rise
Managing the risk, IF color is critical
• L70 is NOT the benchmark
• Shorten required payback period
Image: Scott Rosenfeld, Smithsonian American Art Museum
US DOE Market Introduction Workshop – Managing Risks |
Color Shift – by Michael Royer
Warranty
Limitations of Traditional
Warranty
Performance Warranty
• Lumen Depreciation
• Color Shift
Are LEDs Ready Yet?
It Depends…application based response is needed
• Not always 1 for 1
• Sometimes better than 1 for 1
• Narrow beam challenges
Prescriptive Incentives
• New construction
• Retrofit
• Area lighting
Mock ups
Invaluable to establish the following:
• Application specific performance
• Models and cut sheets don’t tell the full story
• Minor tweaks
• Lensing, aiming
• Major changes
• Compatibility (dimming, video conferencing, equipment, etc)
Cost of Waiting
Simply taking no action can be
extremely costly
• Do Nothing Total
Operating costs include
• Lighting Energy
• HVAC Energy
• Replacement Lamps / Ballasts
• Replacement Labor
50PAR30 for 12PAR30 LED
Depreciation 101
$30,000 Car
Market Value over 5 years
Image: Edmunds.com
IRS Rules vary
Summary
1. Translate Lighting Quality
into dollar impacts
2. Demonstrate how lighting
improves…
• Guest Experience, Patient
Stay, Productivity, Sales
• Cash Flows
• Market Value
FINANCIAL FACTORS & MARKET
VALUE
LEDs are a capital improvement
That increase the value of a property
Specific to New York
New York continued
New York continued
New York has both a demand and supply problem.
• As we move towards increasing our use of green
energy…
• things will just get worse.
COST of LED vs the PRICE of LED
What something costs (in total costs and benefits) is not the
price you pay for it.
• The chart below will show the 1st year benefits of LED
conversion for an auto service bay.
• The savings from the energy are only 50% of the
total savings.
• If you’re not calculating the total savings you
don’t know the true cost.
Who you talk to changes the focus
• Facility Managers look at their budget
• Care about their budget
• CFOs look at the total bottom line
• Care about taxes, depreciation total cost
Key financial metrics
• Energy Savings
• The difference between the old lighting system and the new lighting system
• HVAC Savings
• Up to 35% of the new LED’s energy savings
• Maintenance Savings
• Material - Longer life means fewer replacement bulbs and ballasts
• Labor – Longer life mean lower labor costs
• Tax Benefits
• 1245/1250 – Design for 1245 category assets
• Abandonment – The net book value of the assets you remove.
• Sorry no EPAct 
• Rebates – Easy to identify
• Increase in property market value
MAINTENANCE
Maintenance Savings - More than you think
What does it cost to replace a light fixture at a Casino?
• $5,000
• The cost of the retrofit is far more than just the cost of the
bulbs, there are issues related to business interruption and
production that directly effect the cost.
• Consider lamps in a Fed-Ex maintenance hanger, you have to
stop operations and move the planes out to change the
bulbs/fixtures.
• The cost here even with group re-lamping can be a surprise.
• One of our clients uses union labor at $120 an hour, replacing a single
fluorescent bulb is $70.00
Casino
You have to close off the aisles and interrupt the gaming
• People stop and watch.
• The cost of fixture replacement came directly from the Casino
owner.
They track the income from each slot
and gaming table by the minute.
• Add up all of their costs
• Average cost was just over $5,000 per
change over.
• The big saving in LED comes not from the
energy but from maintenance save.
Airplane Hanger
You cannot change lights while the hanger is filled with planes
DEPRECIATION
1245 vs. 1250
All lighting falls into two categories for the IRS. Short lived and
Long lived.
• Long lived assets (1250) have a life of 39.5 years.
• Short lived assets have a life of 5 or 15 years.
• Additionally the short lived assets can depreciate under MACRS, and so
you get most of the depreciation expense in the first few years.
• Consider a $100,000 retrofit where you can move $40,000 from long
lived to short.
• The effect would be to give your client $20,000 in cash back.
• Before rebates or tax advantages a real reduction in cost of $20,000 net after tax.
• For certain type clients this can be substantial savings.
Every $1 in depreciation = $0.50 after tax
Consider it this way:
$1 a year for 39 years
Year 1 $1.00
Year 2 $1.00
Year 3 $1.00
...
Year 39 $1.00
V.S.
Year 1 $20.00
Year 2 $10.00
Year 3 $5.00
Year 4 $3.00
Year 5 $2.00
Sometimes cove lighting can be significant
Abandonment
• Look up at the lights in the ceiling.
• The primary lighting has a life of 39.5 years. (It is 1250)
• When you remove that lighting you can take as an expense the
remaining book value of those lights.
REBATES
Rebates – all in one source!
By Utility
Listed in detail
CALCULATING THE TOTAL
SAVINGS
Key key financial metrics
Start with the cash flow!
First Year Savings
1 Mile of Cove Lighting
First year benefits
Energy HVAC Maintenance Depreciation Edison
Additional streams of financial benefit
Improve the return of LED projects
• Leasing
• No monies out of pocket
• Cash Flow Positive day one!
• Set up for both on and off balance sheet projects
• LED projects are NOT maintenance of a property
• They are a capital expenditure.
• The value of the property will increase
CASE EXAMPLES
LEDs are a capital improvement
That increase the value of a property
1 linear mile of LED Cove Lighting
This is for a mall (heavy use of cove lighting)
• 10% reduction in fixtures, 50% reduction in energy
• DLC has no listing for Cove, so only a $0.06 per KWH rebate. (Almost
killed this project!)
• $300,000 in Cost
• $9,000 in rebates
• $23,000 per year reduction in energy cost
• $12,000 a year in maintenance savings.
• $6,000 in HVAC saving
• Tax deduction – (5 years $25,000 a year Net After Tax)
• With a 60 month lease
• CASH FLOW POSATIVE DAY ONE, NO MONIES OUT OF POCKET.
• $400,000 increase in market value.
Key key financial metrics
Start with the cash flow!
Who looks at this project sees it differently
Facilities Director
• We only have $20,000
budgeted, this project will
never happen
• My staff currently runs $4K a
month over time, the extra
time would be nice.
• We just don’t have the
money
From the Accountants
• We recognize the benefits of
the deprecation expense
• The HVAC is 20 years old and
the lower draw will be
helpful.
• We like the cash flow
positive aspect of this
deal, as it has no cost out of
pocket to us.
With Leasing
Total Annual Payment Depreciation Edison Total Annual
Saving for financing + Expenses Rebate Benefit
$ 38,142 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ 9,149 $ 12,299
$ 40,714 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ - $ 5,722
$ 43,472 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ - $ 8,480
$ 46,430 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ - $ 11,438
$ 49,605 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ - $ 14,613
$ 53,012 $ - $ - $ - $ 53,012
$ 56,668 $ - $ - $ - $ 56,668
$ 60,595 $ - $ - $ - $ 60,595
$ 64,810 $ - $ - $ - $ 64,810
$ 69,338 $ - $ - $ - $ 69,338
$ 522,786 $ (291,600) $ 116,640 $ 9,149 $ 356,975
Warehouse Project
Cost $50,000
• Reduced the fixture count by 25% by using LEDs
• Their lighting specialist recommended a product with an L95 of
80,000 hours, this allowed fewer fixture.
• Cut energy costs by 65%
• The LEDS saved 50% per fixture
• Lower unit count saved the rest
• ROI under 18 month.
Office Building Project
60,000 sq/ft common area
• $120,000 cost to retrofit
• 20% reduction in fixture
counts
• They MADE MONEY The 1st
year.
• $820,000 INCREASE in
market value
$120,000 Project Cost
- $60,000 Energy Save
- $40,000 Rebates
- $ 5,000 Maintenance
Save
- $20,000 HVAC Save
($ 5,000) Negative
Expense = SAVE
Office Building Project (cont)
Owner operator is a large Real Estate management company.
• They used a five year lease to avoid having to write a check
for the project.
• They own over 120 properties, the ability to increase the
market value of all of them with out any out-of-pocket
expenses is appealing and means an increase in market value
of $98 million if they do all their properties.
Market Value
When the cost to operate a property decreases the market
value of the property INCREASES!
• You get between 6 and 9 times the annual cash flow as an
increase in the market value of the property.
Some common features
LED retrofits do not have to be a 1 to 1 replacement.
• Often you can reduce the number of fixtures dramatically.
Parking garages and warehouses will often see a 30% reduction
in fixture count.
• The total cost of an LED retrofit or of new construction can be
significantly less than anticipated when ALL the savings are
considered.
• You need to present ALL the saving to someone who cares
about all the savings.
Your Speakers
• Don McDougall
• General Manager
• SSCS
• donm@sscsllc.com
• 213.280.2266 Direct
• Jeffrey N. Codd, LC
• Senior Vice President
• Wiedenbach Brown
• jeff.codd@wblight.com
• 914.846.1459 Direct

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Session 2 - LED Budget Breaker or Project Maker - Presented by: Jeff Codd

  • 1. Jeffrey N. Codd, LC Don McDougall Jeffrey N. Codd, LC Don McDougall
  • 2. Identify and explain the following relative to an LED project  Importance of Non-financial factors to financial decision makers  Difference between the COST of LED vs the PRICE of LED  Key financial metrics and cash flow projections  The change in Market Value of a property created by an LED upgrade Recommend additional streams of financial benefit to improve returns
  • 3. aka Why should the CFO care?aka Why should the CFO care?
  • 4. Limitations of Traditional Financial Measures Tell part of the story • Fail to capture • Qualitative • Performance • Hard to measure
  • 5. Non-traditional Considerations • Nuisance Factors • Intensity & Beam • Color Quality & Stability • Warranty • Are LEDs ready yet? • Mock Ups • Cost of waiting
  • 6. Nuisance Factors • How much would it be worth for your Building Engineer to focus on more meaningful activities? • Dark spots between replacements • Mis-aiming during replacement ->Integrity of design Image: thechronicleherald.ca Long Life of LED systems minimizes the following • Would your conversion rate increase if all your lamps are lit and store personnel are selling / merchandising?
  • 7. Beam & Intensity Single vs Multi OpticBeam Quality & Intensity DOE June 2012
  • 8. Color Quality CFL adoption as proxy for LEDs • Not just about payback CRI, Full Spectrum, R9 • Sales impact of poorly lit merchandise • Office / industrial / warehouse productivity impact • Hospitality guest experience • More accurate health evaluation Graph: US DOE Energy Star Market Profile| March 2009
  • 9. Color Stability Impact: • Guest experience impaired • Poorly lit merchandise -> reduced sales • Worker productivity decrease -> production costs / quality issues rise Managing the risk, IF color is critical • L70 is NOT the benchmark • Shorten required payback period Image: Scott Rosenfeld, Smithsonian American Art Museum US DOE Market Introduction Workshop – Managing Risks | Color Shift – by Michael Royer
  • 10. Warranty Limitations of Traditional Warranty Performance Warranty • Lumen Depreciation • Color Shift
  • 11. Are LEDs Ready Yet? It Depends…application based response is needed • Not always 1 for 1 • Sometimes better than 1 for 1 • Narrow beam challenges Prescriptive Incentives • New construction • Retrofit • Area lighting
  • 12. Mock ups Invaluable to establish the following: • Application specific performance • Models and cut sheets don’t tell the full story • Minor tweaks • Lensing, aiming • Major changes • Compatibility (dimming, video conferencing, equipment, etc)
  • 13. Cost of Waiting Simply taking no action can be extremely costly • Do Nothing Total Operating costs include • Lighting Energy • HVAC Energy • Replacement Lamps / Ballasts • Replacement Labor 50PAR30 for 12PAR30 LED
  • 14. Depreciation 101 $30,000 Car Market Value over 5 years Image: Edmunds.com IRS Rules vary
  • 15. Summary 1. Translate Lighting Quality into dollar impacts 2. Demonstrate how lighting improves… • Guest Experience, Patient Stay, Productivity, Sales • Cash Flows • Market Value
  • 16. FINANCIAL FACTORS & MARKET VALUE
  • 17. LEDs are a capital improvement That increase the value of a property
  • 20. New York continued New York has both a demand and supply problem. • As we move towards increasing our use of green energy… • things will just get worse.
  • 21. COST of LED vs the PRICE of LED What something costs (in total costs and benefits) is not the price you pay for it. • The chart below will show the 1st year benefits of LED conversion for an auto service bay. • The savings from the energy are only 50% of the total savings. • If you’re not calculating the total savings you don’t know the true cost.
  • 22. Who you talk to changes the focus • Facility Managers look at their budget • Care about their budget • CFOs look at the total bottom line • Care about taxes, depreciation total cost
  • 23. Key financial metrics • Energy Savings • The difference between the old lighting system and the new lighting system • HVAC Savings • Up to 35% of the new LED’s energy savings • Maintenance Savings • Material - Longer life means fewer replacement bulbs and ballasts • Labor – Longer life mean lower labor costs • Tax Benefits • 1245/1250 – Design for 1245 category assets • Abandonment – The net book value of the assets you remove. • Sorry no EPAct  • Rebates – Easy to identify • Increase in property market value
  • 25. Maintenance Savings - More than you think What does it cost to replace a light fixture at a Casino? • $5,000 • The cost of the retrofit is far more than just the cost of the bulbs, there are issues related to business interruption and production that directly effect the cost. • Consider lamps in a Fed-Ex maintenance hanger, you have to stop operations and move the planes out to change the bulbs/fixtures. • The cost here even with group re-lamping can be a surprise. • One of our clients uses union labor at $120 an hour, replacing a single fluorescent bulb is $70.00
  • 26. Casino You have to close off the aisles and interrupt the gaming • People stop and watch. • The cost of fixture replacement came directly from the Casino owner. They track the income from each slot and gaming table by the minute. • Add up all of their costs • Average cost was just over $5,000 per change over. • The big saving in LED comes not from the energy but from maintenance save.
  • 27. Airplane Hanger You cannot change lights while the hanger is filled with planes
  • 29. 1245 vs. 1250 All lighting falls into two categories for the IRS. Short lived and Long lived. • Long lived assets (1250) have a life of 39.5 years. • Short lived assets have a life of 5 or 15 years. • Additionally the short lived assets can depreciate under MACRS, and so you get most of the depreciation expense in the first few years. • Consider a $100,000 retrofit where you can move $40,000 from long lived to short. • The effect would be to give your client $20,000 in cash back. • Before rebates or tax advantages a real reduction in cost of $20,000 net after tax. • For certain type clients this can be substantial savings.
  • 30. Every $1 in depreciation = $0.50 after tax Consider it this way: $1 a year for 39 years Year 1 $1.00 Year 2 $1.00 Year 3 $1.00 ... Year 39 $1.00 V.S. Year 1 $20.00 Year 2 $10.00 Year 3 $5.00 Year 4 $3.00 Year 5 $2.00
  • 31. Sometimes cove lighting can be significant
  • 32. Abandonment • Look up at the lights in the ceiling. • The primary lighting has a life of 39.5 years. (It is 1250) • When you remove that lighting you can take as an expense the remaining book value of those lights.
  • 34. Rebates – all in one source!
  • 38. Key key financial metrics Start with the cash flow!
  • 39. First Year Savings 1 Mile of Cove Lighting First year benefits Energy HVAC Maintenance Depreciation Edison
  • 40. Additional streams of financial benefit Improve the return of LED projects • Leasing • No monies out of pocket • Cash Flow Positive day one! • Set up for both on and off balance sheet projects • LED projects are NOT maintenance of a property • They are a capital expenditure. • The value of the property will increase
  • 42. LEDs are a capital improvement That increase the value of a property
  • 43. 1 linear mile of LED Cove Lighting This is for a mall (heavy use of cove lighting) • 10% reduction in fixtures, 50% reduction in energy • DLC has no listing for Cove, so only a $0.06 per KWH rebate. (Almost killed this project!) • $300,000 in Cost • $9,000 in rebates • $23,000 per year reduction in energy cost • $12,000 a year in maintenance savings. • $6,000 in HVAC saving • Tax deduction – (5 years $25,000 a year Net After Tax) • With a 60 month lease • CASH FLOW POSATIVE DAY ONE, NO MONIES OUT OF POCKET. • $400,000 increase in market value.
  • 44. Key key financial metrics Start with the cash flow!
  • 45. Who looks at this project sees it differently Facilities Director • We only have $20,000 budgeted, this project will never happen • My staff currently runs $4K a month over time, the extra time would be nice. • We just don’t have the money From the Accountants • We recognize the benefits of the deprecation expense • The HVAC is 20 years old and the lower draw will be helpful. • We like the cash flow positive aspect of this deal, as it has no cost out of pocket to us.
  • 46. With Leasing Total Annual Payment Depreciation Edison Total Annual Saving for financing + Expenses Rebate Benefit $ 38,142 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ 9,149 $ 12,299 $ 40,714 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ - $ 5,722 $ 43,472 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ - $ 8,480 $ 46,430 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ - $ 11,438 $ 49,605 $ (58,320) $ 23,328 $ - $ 14,613 $ 53,012 $ - $ - $ - $ 53,012 $ 56,668 $ - $ - $ - $ 56,668 $ 60,595 $ - $ - $ - $ 60,595 $ 64,810 $ - $ - $ - $ 64,810 $ 69,338 $ - $ - $ - $ 69,338 $ 522,786 $ (291,600) $ 116,640 $ 9,149 $ 356,975
  • 47. Warehouse Project Cost $50,000 • Reduced the fixture count by 25% by using LEDs • Their lighting specialist recommended a product with an L95 of 80,000 hours, this allowed fewer fixture. • Cut energy costs by 65% • The LEDS saved 50% per fixture • Lower unit count saved the rest • ROI under 18 month.
  • 48. Office Building Project 60,000 sq/ft common area • $120,000 cost to retrofit • 20% reduction in fixture counts • They MADE MONEY The 1st year. • $820,000 INCREASE in market value $120,000 Project Cost - $60,000 Energy Save - $40,000 Rebates - $ 5,000 Maintenance Save - $20,000 HVAC Save ($ 5,000) Negative Expense = SAVE
  • 49. Office Building Project (cont) Owner operator is a large Real Estate management company. • They used a five year lease to avoid having to write a check for the project. • They own over 120 properties, the ability to increase the market value of all of them with out any out-of-pocket expenses is appealing and means an increase in market value of $98 million if they do all their properties.
  • 50. Market Value When the cost to operate a property decreases the market value of the property INCREASES! • You get between 6 and 9 times the annual cash flow as an increase in the market value of the property.
  • 51. Some common features LED retrofits do not have to be a 1 to 1 replacement. • Often you can reduce the number of fixtures dramatically. Parking garages and warehouses will often see a 30% reduction in fixture count. • The total cost of an LED retrofit or of new construction can be significantly less than anticipated when ALL the savings are considered. • You need to present ALL the saving to someone who cares about all the savings.
  • 52. Your Speakers • Don McDougall • General Manager • SSCS • donm@sscsllc.com • 213.280.2266 Direct • Jeffrey N. Codd, LC • Senior Vice President • Wiedenbach Brown • jeff.codd@wblight.com • 914.846.1459 Direct

Notas do Editor

  1. Smithsonian - GatewayBeam / color qualities cannot be based on spec sheets.Especially blues / reds. No subsititution visual evaluation