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Mike Riddle
Institute for Creation
      Research
Topics
    Two models of history


    7 Biblical truths why it matters


    Science and why it matters


    Conclusion: Why it matters what we

    believe
Creation Model
    God created the universe and everything

    in it in 6 days
    Sin was the cause of death


    God destroyed the world by a worldwide

    flood
    Man was created in the image of God





         God created ALL things
Evolution Model
    About 15 billion years ago the universe

    exploded into existence
    About 4.6 billion years ago the earth

    evolved
    About 3.5 billion years ago life evolved


    Humans evolved from ape-like creatures




    Time, chance, and natural processes
Creation and the Bible

    Three Rules of Interpretation

1. Context - context - context
2. Let Scripture interpret Scripture
3. Don’t let our experiences
   interpret the Bible
The Process for Creation
  Evolution model

 The Bible
      “And God said”
    
     Psalm 33:6,9 “By the Word of the Lord…”
     Hebrews 11:3


Through faith we understand that the worlds
were framed by the word of God, so that
things which are seen were not made of
things which do appear.
    What the Bible does NOT say

The Order of Events

    The earth and stars


    Birds and reptiles


    The earth and water

The Cause of Physical Death
    Evolution: natural process


    Bible: sin (Rom 5:12, 1Cor 15:21)

        Curse (Genesis 3:17)
    

        Put out of the Garden to keep from eating
    

        from the tree of life (Genesis 3:22-24)
    “Very Good” (Genesis 1:31)


    Animal death


    Plant death

The Genesis Flood
    Evolution: myth or local flood


    Bible: worldwide Flood

        Rained 40/40
    

        Springs of the deep
    

        All land creatures perished
    

        All mountains were covered
    


        God’s covenant promise (Gen 9:8-11,15)
    s
The Local Flood
Flood Conclusion: Genesis 7
(19) And the waters prevailed exceedingly
upon the earth; and all the high hills, that
were under the whole heaven, were covered.

(21) And all flesh died that moved upon the
earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of
beast, and of every creeping thing that
creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
(22) All in whose nostrils was the breath of
life, of all that was in the dry land , died.
(23) And every living substance was
destroyed which was upon the face of the
ground, both man, and cattle, and the
creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven;
and they were destroyed from the earth: and
Noah only remained alive, and they that
were with him in the ark.

                 Question
If God had wanted to teach a global flood,
  how could He have said it more clearly?
Geological Evidence
Geologic Observations
      May 18, 1980
Geologic Processes
The Little Grand Canyon of the Toutle River




       Picture by Steve Austin, Ph.D. Geology
Geologic Processes

 Palouse Falls Gorge, WA
Geologic Processes
Rapidly formed strata on the
North Fork of the Toutle River
Polystrate Fossils




     Picture from the Geology Book by John
              Morris, Ph.D. Geology
Genesis Flood
Henry Clarence Thiessen, Ph.D., Lectures in
Systematic Theology, 1979, p. 117.

“Further, the Bible teaches a universal
flood…”
Genesis Flood
Gleason Archer (Ph.D., professor of Old Testament
and Semitic languages ), Encyclopedia of Bible
Difficulties, 1982, p. 82.

“The biblical record in Genesis 7-8
describes no local inundation confined
to the Mesopotamian Valley (as some
scholars have suggested) but a water
level that surpassed the summits of the
highest mountains.”
Science and the Flood
Eugene Merrill, An Historical Survey of the Old
Testament, 1998, p. 50.

“If true scientific principle demands an
observer and recorder of phenomena,
only the Genesis account can be
considered scientific, for only it dares to
claim that there was an Observer
present – the Triune God.”
The Genesis Flood
Keith Wanser, Creation ex nihilo, 1999, p. 39.
(Dr. Wanser works with theoretical condensed
matter physics and basic theories of matter)

“I am convinced there is far more
evidence for a recent, six-day creation
and a global Flood than there is for an
old earth and evolution.”

     The Flood was Worldwide!
The Creation Days
    Evolution demands long ages


    Bible: literal days

        Meaning of ‘Yom’
    
        Yom with a number
    
        Evening and morning
    
        Genesis 1:14
    
        Exodus 20:11
    
        Words used to indicate time
    

    Narrative versus poetry (VSO or SVO)

        In the beginning created God the heavens… =
    
        VSO
    Genealogies (Gen 5, 1Chron 1, Luke 3)

Genealogical Timeline
                         Years after creation
   Creation        500            1000    1500     2000     2500


                           930
Adam
                                         1651
                       874
                 Lamech
                                 1056              2006
                              Noah
                                                    1879 2084
                                                Terah
                                                       2009 2184
                 Year died
Year born                                        Abraham
                 after creation
after creation
                                         Flood (1656)
The Creation Days
 Professor James Barr, Professor of Hebrew at the
 University of Oxford.

“Probably so far as I know, there is no
professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any
world-class university who dares not believe
that the writer(s) of Gen. 1-11 intended to
convey to their readers the ideas that creation
took place in a series of six days which are
the same as the days of 24 hours we now
experience…”
The Creation Days
Dr. Robert Cole (Ph.D. Semitic Languages), “A
PhD looks at the Genesis Days”

“There is nothing in the Bible to obviate
the idea that the days in Genesis were
24 hour type days.”
The Creation Days
 Robert L. Reymond, Ph.D., A New Systematic
 Theology of the Christian Faith, 1998, p. 393.

“In the hundreds of other cases in the Old
Testament where yom stands in
conjunction with an ordinal number (first,
second, third, etc.), e.g. Exodus 12:15;
24:16; Leviticus 12:3, it never means
anything other than a normal, literal day.”
The Creation Days
Newman (Ph.D. Astrophysics, Th.M. Westiminster
Theological Seminary) and Eckelmann (B.S.E.E.,
M.Div.), Genesis One and the Origin of the Earth, pp.
61-62.

 “The more modest claim, that yom
 means a twenty-four-hour day when used
 with ordinal numbers (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.),
 has the advantage that no clear counter-
 example can be cited with yom meaning
 a long period of time.”
The Creation Days
Douglas F. Kelly (Professor of Systematic
Theology) , Creation and Change, 1997, p. 51.

“To summarize, liberal scholars of both
19th and 20th centuries admit that the
text of Genesis is clearly meant to be
taken in a literal, historical sense,
although they deny its claims to speak
accurately to our space/time cosmos.”
The Origin of Life
    Evolution: chance accident


    Bible: consistent message

    Gen 2:7     Isa 57:16        1 Cor 8:6
    Gen 5:2     Matt 19:4        Eph 3:9
    Deut 4:32   Mark 10:6        Col 1:16-17
    Neh 9:6     John 1: 1-3      Heb 11:3
    Ps 89:47    Acts 4:24        2 Pet 1:3
    Isa 45:12   Romans 1:19-20   Rev 4:11
What Did Jesus Say
    Jesus believed Moses: John 5:46-47


    Jesus confirmed Abel: Matt 23:35


    Jesus confirmed the Flood: Matt 24:37-39


    …from the beginning… Mark 10:6


    Jesus is the Creator

        John 1:1-3, Col 1:16, Heb 1:1-3, Eph 3:9
    




Why do we believe the Resurrection?
Evolution, Science, and the Bible

          1st Law of
          Thermodynamics
Laws of
          2nd Law of
Science
          Thermodynamics

          Law of Cause and
          Effect

          Law of Biogenesis
Christian Doctrine and Science
         Danny Faulkner, Ph.D. Astronomy
“Many Christian apologists today accept the big
bang and claim that Genesis is in complete
agreement with the big bang. However this is a
situation driven by science and not by Biblical
studies….
Therefore those who accept the big bang and
make it part of their Christian apologetics are guilty
of interpreting the Bible in terms of current science.
This is a dangerous precedent.”
Why It Matters What We Believe
 Genesis 1:31       “Very good” creation
 Exodus 20:11       Creation in 6-days
 John 5:46-47       Jesus believes in creation
  The foundation for Christian doctrines
                    Reason for the Gospel
         Who is
                     The
         the last                  Marriage
                    works
                      of
         Adam?                            Sin?
                            John 3:16
                    Jesus




         Creation is the foundation
Effects of Evolution
   One of the main reasons our youth are
   leaving the church is that they cannot
         defend a belief in the Bible

          What can be done?
   The Bible teaches what can be done
  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts:
 and be ready always to give an answer to
 every man that asketh you a reason of the
hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
                (1 Peter 3:15)
Meaning of 1 Peter 3:15
 We  must understand what we believe
 We must understand why we are
  Christians
 We must be able to articulate this
  belief reasonably and biblically
The Entire Lecture in Book Format
 Isevolution compatible
  with the Bible?
 Does the Bible say how
  God created?
 Is Genesis true history
  or just a story?
 How   long were the days
  of creation?
The Lecture on DVD

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                       Objectives
                     

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The Origin of Life
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Creation/Evolution:
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  In the beginning God created…
Creation Evolution

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Creation Evolution

  • 1. Mike Riddle Institute for Creation Research
  • 2. Topics Two models of history  7 Biblical truths why it matters  Science and why it matters  Conclusion: Why it matters what we  believe
  • 3. Creation Model God created the universe and everything  in it in 6 days Sin was the cause of death  God destroyed the world by a worldwide  flood Man was created in the image of God  God created ALL things
  • 4. Evolution Model About 15 billion years ago the universe  exploded into existence About 4.6 billion years ago the earth  evolved About 3.5 billion years ago life evolved  Humans evolved from ape-like creatures  Time, chance, and natural processes
  • 5. Creation and the Bible Three Rules of Interpretation 1. Context - context - context 2. Let Scripture interpret Scripture 3. Don’t let our experiences interpret the Bible
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  • 7. The Process for Creation Evolution model   The Bible “And God said”   Psalm 33:6,9 “By the Word of the Lord…”  Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. What the Bible does NOT say 
  • 8. The Order of Events The earth and stars  Birds and reptiles  The earth and water 
  • 9. The Cause of Physical Death Evolution: natural process  Bible: sin (Rom 5:12, 1Cor 15:21)  Curse (Genesis 3:17)  Put out of the Garden to keep from eating  from the tree of life (Genesis 3:22-24) “Very Good” (Genesis 1:31)  Animal death  Plant death 
  • 10. The Genesis Flood Evolution: myth or local flood  Bible: worldwide Flood  Rained 40/40  Springs of the deep  All land creatures perished  All mountains were covered  God’s covenant promise (Gen 9:8-11,15) s
  • 12. Flood Conclusion: Genesis 7 (19) And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. (21) And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: (22) All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land , died.
  • 13. (23) And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. Question If God had wanted to teach a global flood, how could He have said it more clearly?
  • 15. Geologic Observations May 18, 1980
  • 16. Geologic Processes The Little Grand Canyon of the Toutle River Picture by Steve Austin, Ph.D. Geology
  • 17. Geologic Processes Palouse Falls Gorge, WA
  • 18. Geologic Processes Rapidly formed strata on the North Fork of the Toutle River
  • 19. Polystrate Fossils Picture from the Geology Book by John Morris, Ph.D. Geology
  • 20. Genesis Flood Henry Clarence Thiessen, Ph.D., Lectures in Systematic Theology, 1979, p. 117. “Further, the Bible teaches a universal flood…”
  • 21. Genesis Flood Gleason Archer (Ph.D., professor of Old Testament and Semitic languages ), Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties, 1982, p. 82. “The biblical record in Genesis 7-8 describes no local inundation confined to the Mesopotamian Valley (as some scholars have suggested) but a water level that surpassed the summits of the highest mountains.”
  • 22. Science and the Flood Eugene Merrill, An Historical Survey of the Old Testament, 1998, p. 50. “If true scientific principle demands an observer and recorder of phenomena, only the Genesis account can be considered scientific, for only it dares to claim that there was an Observer present – the Triune God.”
  • 23. The Genesis Flood Keith Wanser, Creation ex nihilo, 1999, p. 39. (Dr. Wanser works with theoretical condensed matter physics and basic theories of matter) “I am convinced there is far more evidence for a recent, six-day creation and a global Flood than there is for an old earth and evolution.” The Flood was Worldwide!
  • 24. The Creation Days Evolution demands long ages  Bible: literal days  Meaning of ‘Yom’  Yom with a number  Evening and morning  Genesis 1:14  Exodus 20:11  Words used to indicate time  Narrative versus poetry (VSO or SVO)  In the beginning created God the heavens… =  VSO Genealogies (Gen 5, 1Chron 1, Luke 3) 
  • 25. Genealogical Timeline Years after creation Creation 500 1000 1500 2000 2500 930 Adam 1651 874 Lamech 1056 2006 Noah 1879 2084 Terah 2009 2184 Year died Year born Abraham after creation after creation Flood (1656)
  • 26. The Creation Days Professor James Barr, Professor of Hebrew at the University of Oxford. “Probably so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who dares not believe that the writer(s) of Gen. 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that creation took place in a series of six days which are the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience…”
  • 27. The Creation Days Dr. Robert Cole (Ph.D. Semitic Languages), “A PhD looks at the Genesis Days” “There is nothing in the Bible to obviate the idea that the days in Genesis were 24 hour type days.”
  • 28. The Creation Days Robert L. Reymond, Ph.D., A New Systematic Theology of the Christian Faith, 1998, p. 393. “In the hundreds of other cases in the Old Testament where yom stands in conjunction with an ordinal number (first, second, third, etc.), e.g. Exodus 12:15; 24:16; Leviticus 12:3, it never means anything other than a normal, literal day.”
  • 29. The Creation Days Newman (Ph.D. Astrophysics, Th.M. Westiminster Theological Seminary) and Eckelmann (B.S.E.E., M.Div.), Genesis One and the Origin of the Earth, pp. 61-62. “The more modest claim, that yom means a twenty-four-hour day when used with ordinal numbers (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.), has the advantage that no clear counter- example can be cited with yom meaning a long period of time.”
  • 30. The Creation Days Douglas F. Kelly (Professor of Systematic Theology) , Creation and Change, 1997, p. 51. “To summarize, liberal scholars of both 19th and 20th centuries admit that the text of Genesis is clearly meant to be taken in a literal, historical sense, although they deny its claims to speak accurately to our space/time cosmos.”
  • 31. The Origin of Life Evolution: chance accident  Bible: consistent message  Gen 2:7 Isa 57:16 1 Cor 8:6 Gen 5:2 Matt 19:4 Eph 3:9 Deut 4:32 Mark 10:6 Col 1:16-17 Neh 9:6 John 1: 1-3 Heb 11:3 Ps 89:47 Acts 4:24 2 Pet 1:3 Isa 45:12 Romans 1:19-20 Rev 4:11
  • 32. What Did Jesus Say Jesus believed Moses: John 5:46-47  Jesus confirmed Abel: Matt 23:35  Jesus confirmed the Flood: Matt 24:37-39  …from the beginning… Mark 10:6  Jesus is the Creator  John 1:1-3, Col 1:16, Heb 1:1-3, Eph 3:9  Why do we believe the Resurrection?
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  • 34. Evolution, Science, and the Bible 1st Law of Thermodynamics Laws of 2nd Law of Science Thermodynamics Law of Cause and Effect Law of Biogenesis
  • 35. Christian Doctrine and Science Danny Faulkner, Ph.D. Astronomy “Many Christian apologists today accept the big bang and claim that Genesis is in complete agreement with the big bang. However this is a situation driven by science and not by Biblical studies…. Therefore those who accept the big bang and make it part of their Christian apologetics are guilty of interpreting the Bible in terms of current science. This is a dangerous precedent.”
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  • 37. Why It Matters What We Believe Genesis 1:31 “Very good” creation Exodus 20:11 Creation in 6-days John 5:46-47 Jesus believes in creation The foundation for Christian doctrines Reason for the Gospel Who is The the last Marriage works of Adam? Sin? John 3:16 Jesus Creation is the foundation
  • 38. Effects of Evolution One of the main reasons our youth are leaving the church is that they cannot defend a belief in the Bible What can be done? The Bible teaches what can be done But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: (1 Peter 3:15)
  • 39. Meaning of 1 Peter 3:15  We must understand what we believe  We must understand why we are Christians  We must be able to articulate this belief reasonably and biblically
  • 40. The Entire Lecture in Book Format  Isevolution compatible with the Bible?  Does the Bible say how God created?  Is Genesis true history or just a story?  How long were the days of creation?
  • 41. The Lecture on DVD Free Plus Lesson plans Objectives   Detailed outline of the DVD  Exercises  Answer Keys www.Train2Equip.com
  • 42. 5 New Audio CDs -- $ 8 Each Complete set of 5 for $35.00
  • 43. The Origin of Life Equipping Course Individual Study Guide
  • 45. Creation/Evolution: Does It Matter What We Believe? Mike Riddle mike@Train2Equip.com www.icr.org In the beginning God created…

Notas do Editor

  1. What does God say about the Flood? Who do we believe first man or God’s Word?
  2. This is an urgent command to preach the Word – the entire written Word even when it is not popular – and right now what is not popular is, In the beginning… But it is the only true history…