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Miracles and Probability from Lourdes to Lazarus Debate 2:  Matt McCormick and Russell DiSilvestro
Can We Determine the Reliability of Eyewitness Testimony of Miracles? ,[object Object]
Suppose, charitably, that half experienced something they took to be supernatural.
66 miracles have been declared to be real by the official investigating body of the Catholic church.
Provisional Miracle testimony reliability=  .0000165
That is, humans are really, really bad at reporting miracles.  They have hundreds of thousands or even millions of false reports for every real one (or worse.)
We’re miracle crazy.  ,[object Object]
Receptivity to Supernatural Claims ,[object Object]
First century Christians would have been much more disposed to believe a wide range of supernatural claims, including a lot of false ones that you wouldn’t accept.
That is, their error rate with regard to supernatural claims would be high:  they would conclude that miracles were more common than they really are, for example.
If there were supernatural ideas circulating about that were false or unfounded, this person would be more likely to believe them and repeat them.
Their ignorance, their culture, their dedication to Jesus, their lack of a scientific skepticism or method, their expectations, their history, and other factors would contribute to this supernatural gullibility.,[object Object]
So my ignorance about it should diminish the confidence you have about one of those claims being true, all other things being equal. 
That’s why you shouldn’t believe me when I insist that the Detroit Lions will win the Superbowl.

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Miracles At Lourdes

  • 1. Miracles and Probability from Lourdes to Lazarus Debate 2: Matt McCormick and Russell DiSilvestro
  • 2.
  • 3. Suppose, charitably, that half experienced something they took to be supernatural.
  • 4. 66 miracles have been declared to be real by the official investigating body of the Catholic church.
  • 5. Provisional Miracle testimony reliability= .0000165
  • 6. That is, humans are really, really bad at reporting miracles. They have hundreds of thousands or even millions of false reports for every real one (or worse.)
  • 7.
  • 8.
  • 9. First century Christians would have been much more disposed to believe a wide range of supernatural claims, including a lot of false ones that you wouldn’t accept.
  • 10. That is, their error rate with regard to supernatural claims would be high: they would conclude that miracles were more common than they really are, for example.
  • 11. If there were supernatural ideas circulating about that were false or unfounded, this person would be more likely to believe them and repeat them.
  • 12.
  • 13. So my ignorance about it should diminish the confidence you have about one of those claims being true, all other things being equal. 
  • 14. That’s why you shouldn’t believe me when I insist that the Detroit Lions will win the Superbowl.
  • 15.
  • 16. Gallup Polls have consistently found similar results. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/109108/Belief-God-Far-Lower-Western-US.aspx)
  • 17.
  • 18. Almost all of the information that you take for granted, the technology, and the methods for acquiring information were unavailable to them.
  • 19. A tiny fraction of the population would have been literate.
  • 20. Their mathematical abilities would have been worse than today’s average 3rd grader.
  • 21. They did not know that the Earth moves, or what the Sun was.
  • 22. They did not know what electricity, hydrogen are.
  • 23. They did not know what caused disease, or pregnancy, or death.
  • 24.
  • 25. Worries about the Repeaters: Organic Memory- humans revise, edit, fabricate memories, and then conceal the changes to themselves. Confirmation Bias- the tendency to note events that favor a favored belief while neglecting counter evidence. Source Amnesia- we recall claims, but forget the sources or whether they are true.
  • 26. Author Problems The Mark Bottle Neck- Matthew and Luke copied from Mark. Possibly independent lines of information dwindle 2 or 3. Inconsistent/contradictory stories- one angel, two angels, Jesus, no Jesus, empty, Mary by herself, with others, tells disciples, doesn’t tell disciples, runs away, stays. . . Mark’s New Ending- Mark ends at 16:8 in oldest versions. 16:9-20 (Resurrected Jesus returns) is added 100-150 years later.
  • 27. Copier Problems Ideological and Evangelical revisions, harmonizations-we know of thousands of additions, subtractions, and edits driven by ideological convictions, and the goal of “correcting” the various works to get them to align. How many more have we not detected? Copy errors-the Carpenter Problem- there is a single mention of Jesus being a carpenter in the Gospels, suppose that had said “tax collector,” or “magician”? Counter evidence problem-To be justified, we need to know that alternative explanations were investigated. No such evidence would have survived through centuries of filtering and copying, even if it was there. We can’t take materials that have been carefully groomed for centuries for the specific purpose of propagating the resurrection story, and then when we fail to find evidence in them that something else happened, proclaim the resurrection to be validated.
  • 28. Canonization Problems Thousands of early Christian documents, many of them with very different accounts of Jesus and Christian doctrine were deliberately sifted and culled to create a single, unified (sort of) narrative. To look back and marvel at the coherence or unity of the Bible, or to cite them as evidence in favor of the resurrection story commits the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy—the Jesus Sharpshooters. Counter Evidence Problem-if there was information that would have disproven R, it would not have survive the centuries of deliberate culling.
  • 29. An Amplification of Doubts Oldest surv. copies Gospels written Canon created R? Salem Witch Trial Problem Jesus Sharpshooter Problem Counter Evidence Problem Canonizers Ideological Revisions Copy Errors Counter Evidence Problem Harmonizations Copiers Authors Mark Bottle Neck Contradictions There are too many doubts between me and the alleged event for me to conclude that it happened. Organic Memory Confirmation Bias Source Amnesia SBT Repeaters 1. Lourdes Prob. 2. Bereavement Hallucinations Asch Effect SBT Gorilla Problem Alleged eyewitnesses
  • 30. Conclusion The historical evidence is too poor for me to conclude reasonably that the resurrection of Jesus happened.

Notas do Editor

  1. W. Dewi Rees, The Hallucinations of Widowhood, Br Med J  1971;4:37-41 (2 October), doi:10.1136/bmj.4.5778.37 John J. Pilch, Appearances of the Risen Jesus in Cultural Context: Experiences of Alternate Reality, Biblical Theology Bulletin: A Journal of Bible and Theology, Vol. 28, No. 2, 52-60 (1998) A. Grimby, Bereavement among elderly people: grief reactions, post-bereavement hallucinations and quality of life. ActaPsychiatricaScandinavicaVolume 87 Issue 1, Pages 72 - 80
  2. Greenberg, Daniel L. “President Bush’s False ‘Flashbulb’ Memory of 9/11/01” Applied Cognitive Psychology, 18: 363–370 (2004)Loftus, Elizabeth, "The myth of repressed memory: False memories and allegations of sexual abuse," St. Martin's Griffin, (1994)Neisser, Ulric and Nicole Harsch, “Phantom Flashbulbs: False recollections of hearing the news about Challenger” in Eugene Winograd and UlricNeisser, eds.Affect and Accuracy in Recall: Studies of “flashbulb” memories (Cambridge U Press, 1992), 9-31Ross, L., Lepper, M. R. and Hubbard, M. Perseverance in self-perception and social perception: Biased attributional processes in the debriefing paradigm, Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 32, 1975, 880-892
  3. Allah speaks to Mohammed. The angel Moroni tells Joseph Smith where two golden plates are buried. Scientology. Magical stories about Krishna and the origins of Hinduism. Buddha’s transformation into a perfectly enlightened being. The Inquisition’s analysis of demon possessions, black magic, witchcraft, and so on. Astrology. Ancient Greek beliefs in invisible, spiritual powers linked to the material world.