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to browse all consulting
experts who can help you
with:
• Informational Interviews
• Resumes & Cover Letters
• Mock Interviews
…and more!
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The Long-Term Consulting
Career Value Proposition
featuring:
James Weiss
Former Senior Manager at
Hosted by:
Caitlin Quan
Evisors Marketing & Operations Associate
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Agenda
1. About James
2. Why are we talking about this?
3. Being a Manager
4. Being a Partner
5. Q&A
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About James
“Entrepreneur and Reformed Consultant”
• >6 years post MBA at Bain NYC, Singapore, HK
• Promoted early to Manager, then to Senior Manager
• Specialized in PE, Media, and FS Tech
• Left in „10 to start up / advise early-stage companies
• Princeton AB, Wharton MBA
• Started career at DreamWorks in LA, then built two
Internet companies
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Why are you here?
• Considering joining a consultancy as an
“experienced hire”
• In a consulting firm today contemplating
your long-term commitment
• Thinking about consulting vs. other
long-term job options
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Most common two questions I get
1. How do I get a job in consulting?
2. What it’s like to be a manager or
partner?
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$$$ Partnership $$$ !!
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Well, not exactly.
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High Level: What’s the Job?
Associate /
Consultant
Pose questions, get answers and
keep the manager happy
Manager /
Principal
Manage teams, recruit
associates, keep client happy
Partner /
Director
Sell projects, make managers,
build the firm, keep fellow
partners happy
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The Manager
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Being a Manager: What’s the job?
Managers are…
• Running a team
• Working directly with senior executives on the
client side
• Helping deliver thought-leadership to your
firm
• Mentoring associates and junior clients
• Trying to look credible… but not too credible
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Being a Manager: What do you get?
Managers get…
• Training and experience: You learn a lot –
throughput goes WAY up, and you focus on
people management
• Value jump: Start to become worth more in
the marketplace
• Prestige: Begin to be recognized as an expert
in and out of the firm
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Being a Manager: The Ugly
Welcome to
the middle.
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Being a Manager: The Ugly
As a Manager you have to deal with…
• Everyone – no one is happy, and they all now
comes to you
• Ridiculous workloads
• Less money and respect than you probably
deserve (especially from Partners)
• Travel and sacrifice for your “craft”
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What comes next?
When Managers leave, they go to…
• Large companies, in Director/VP-level
strategy or analytical roles, with track to
“operational role” in 1.5-3 years
• Operations groups in PE funds, or Director-
level roles in their portfolios
• More rarely: Deal-side roles in PE; operating
roles in mid-sized companies; BD or
marketing roles in small / startup companies
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Upshot
The Manager role is…
• Really good training for being a General Manager
(although external firms don‟t always see it that way)
• A chance to develop more significant senior
relationships outside the firm
• Opportunity to become an expert in a field
• Well-compensated – a major step up from Consultant
• A long way from Partner (3-7 years), with the long-
term challenge of satisfying a lot of constituents
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Now… before we go into Partner…
Welcome to the
partner promotion
process.
Hope the gods
smile upon you.
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The Partner
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Being a Partner: What’s the job?
Partners are…
• Selling! Upselling and breaking new business
• Building relationships
• No longer project managing: Set up the case, get
things going, set the tone, then check out
• Pitching, writing proposals, speaking at conferences,
writing white papers
• Mentoring managers
• Helping lead the firm
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Being a Partner: What do you get?
Partners get…
• Money: Wealth (but eat what you kill)
• Autonomy: You are now responsible for a line of
business and results
• Job security: Most firms rarely push out partners, and
there‟s often a “revolving door”
• Intellectual stimulation: You‟re working on many
things at once
• Prestige: Being a partner = respect
• Interesting opportunities: Both in and out of the firm
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Being a Partner: The Ugly
Thought you
had control?
Ha!
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Being a Partner: The Ugly
As a partner you …
• Actually have a lot less control over your life –
the sooner you give up your calendar the
better off you are!
• Struggle to move jobs – few jobs pay as well,
give you the intellectual stimulation, and have
the job security
• Are hard to employ – a highly-paid person
without “execution experience” is a tough sell
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What comes next
In most firms, partners don’t leave. If you’ve gone
through the pain of getting there, you stay.
Those who leave go to…
• Roles within the firm – specialties, practice area
heads, developmental roles
• Divisional Head / SVP roles, or Head of Strategy, at
larger companies
• Rarely: Partner roles at other service firms; CEO
roles (mid-sized firms, ex-clients); PE / VC (very rare)
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Upshot
The Partner role can be fantastic if you…
• Want to live well and develop wealth (but don‟t expect
to be a billionaire / master of the universe)
• Recognize you‟re a salesperson (or sales manager)
with a P&L, not a corporate executive
• Enjoy being a “smart dude” – you‟re a (well-paid) prof
• Take control – successful partners build their practice
on what they do well and love, and set boundaries
• Embrace the flexibility within your firm – there are
many chances to try things and reinvent yourself
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Closing thoughts
• Compared with other careers, consultancy can be
quite high on the value vs. effort equation
• Culture and people are paramount - it‟s a human
capital business – if you love the culture and the
people it can be a wonderful, uplifting career
• Few companies have as much fluidity as
consultancies. If you like variety and intellectual
stimulation, it only gets better with time…
• … but, if you want to run a business, it only gets
harder and further away the more senior you get
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Connect
Book your one-on-one session with James at
www.evisors.com/expert/689
James Weiss
Former Senior Manager at
He can help you with:
• Career Assessment
• Consulting Interview Practice
• Resume Development
…and more!
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Questions & Answers
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Questions & Answers
Question 1:
What advice would you give to someone
transitioning into consulting post-MBA?
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Questions & Answers
Question 2:
Can an experienced expert in a specialized
field enter a consulting firm either mid-level
or senior level?
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Questions & Answers
Question 3:
Can you work on other projects that are not
within your industry of expertise?
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Questions & Answers
Question 4:
What is the most important skill a consultant
must have to advance in their career?
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Questions & Answers
Question 5:
How can you transition into consulting if you
do not have any prior experience?
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Questions & Answers
Question 6:
Do you feel your experience with Bain
Consulting help you handle future business
situations?
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Questions & Answers
Question 7:
What was the work/life balance like at Bain
Consulting?
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Questions & Answers
Question 8:
What is the career lifespan of a consultant?
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Questions & Answers
Question 9:
How does the expected career trajectory
differ between a professional hire and an
MBA graduate?
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Questions & Answers
Question 10:
Is it possible for a line manager to get a job
in management consulting?
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Questions & Answers
Question 11:
Why did you ultimately decide to leave Bain
Consulting?
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The Long Term Consulting Career Value Proposition

  • 1. Visit evisors.com to browse all consulting experts who can help you with: • Informational Interviews • Resumes & Cover Letters • Mock Interviews …and more! Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 2. The Long-Term Consulting Career Value Proposition featuring: James Weiss Former Senior Manager at Hosted by: Caitlin Quan Evisors Marketing & Operations Associate Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 3. Agenda 1. About James 2. Why are we talking about this? 3. Being a Manager 4. Being a Partner 5. Q&A Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 4. About James “Entrepreneur and Reformed Consultant” • >6 years post MBA at Bain NYC, Singapore, HK • Promoted early to Manager, then to Senior Manager • Specialized in PE, Media, and FS Tech • Left in „10 to start up / advise early-stage companies • Princeton AB, Wharton MBA • Started career at DreamWorks in LA, then built two Internet companies Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 5. Why are you here? • Considering joining a consultancy as an “experienced hire” • In a consulting firm today contemplating your long-term commitment • Thinking about consulting vs. other long-term job options Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 6. Most common two questions I get 1. How do I get a job in consulting? 2. What it’s like to be a manager or partner? Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 7. $$$ Partnership $$$ !! Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 8. Well, not exactly. Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 9. High Level: What’s the Job? Associate / Consultant Pose questions, get answers and keep the manager happy Manager / Principal Manage teams, recruit associates, keep client happy Partner / Director Sell projects, make managers, build the firm, keep fellow partners happy Hosted by: Career Advisors on Demand..com/webinars
  • 10. The Manager Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 11. Being a Manager: What’s the job? Managers are… • Running a team • Working directly with senior executives on the client side • Helping deliver thought-leadership to your firm • Mentoring associates and junior clients • Trying to look credible… but not too credible Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 12. Being a Manager: What do you get? Managers get… • Training and experience: You learn a lot – throughput goes WAY up, and you focus on people management • Value jump: Start to become worth more in the marketplace • Prestige: Begin to be recognized as an expert in and out of the firm Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 13. Being a Manager: The Ugly Welcome to the middle. Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 14. Being a Manager: The Ugly As a Manager you have to deal with… • Everyone – no one is happy, and they all now comes to you • Ridiculous workloads • Less money and respect than you probably deserve (especially from Partners) • Travel and sacrifice for your “craft” Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 15. What comes next? When Managers leave, they go to… • Large companies, in Director/VP-level strategy or analytical roles, with track to “operational role” in 1.5-3 years • Operations groups in PE funds, or Director- level roles in their portfolios • More rarely: Deal-side roles in PE; operating roles in mid-sized companies; BD or marketing roles in small / startup companies Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 16. Upshot The Manager role is… • Really good training for being a General Manager (although external firms don‟t always see it that way) • A chance to develop more significant senior relationships outside the firm • Opportunity to become an expert in a field • Well-compensated – a major step up from Consultant • A long way from Partner (3-7 years), with the long- term challenge of satisfying a lot of constituents Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 17. Now… before we go into Partner… Welcome to the partner promotion process. Hope the gods smile upon you. Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 18. The Partner Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 19. Being a Partner: What’s the job? Partners are… • Selling! Upselling and breaking new business • Building relationships • No longer project managing: Set up the case, get things going, set the tone, then check out • Pitching, writing proposals, speaking at conferences, writing white papers • Mentoring managers • Helping lead the firm Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 20. Being a Partner: What do you get? Partners get… • Money: Wealth (but eat what you kill) • Autonomy: You are now responsible for a line of business and results • Job security: Most firms rarely push out partners, and there‟s often a “revolving door” • Intellectual stimulation: You‟re working on many things at once • Prestige: Being a partner = respect • Interesting opportunities: Both in and out of the firm Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 21. Being a Partner: The Ugly Thought you had control? Ha! Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 22. Being a Partner: The Ugly As a partner you … • Actually have a lot less control over your life – the sooner you give up your calendar the better off you are! • Struggle to move jobs – few jobs pay as well, give you the intellectual stimulation, and have the job security • Are hard to employ – a highly-paid person without “execution experience” is a tough sell Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 23. What comes next In most firms, partners don’t leave. If you’ve gone through the pain of getting there, you stay. Those who leave go to… • Roles within the firm – specialties, practice area heads, developmental roles • Divisional Head / SVP roles, or Head of Strategy, at larger companies • Rarely: Partner roles at other service firms; CEO roles (mid-sized firms, ex-clients); PE / VC (very rare) Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 24. Upshot The Partner role can be fantastic if you… • Want to live well and develop wealth (but don‟t expect to be a billionaire / master of the universe) • Recognize you‟re a salesperson (or sales manager) with a P&L, not a corporate executive • Enjoy being a “smart dude” – you‟re a (well-paid) prof • Take control – successful partners build their practice on what they do well and love, and set boundaries • Embrace the flexibility within your firm – there are many chances to try things and reinvent yourself Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 25. Closing thoughts • Compared with other careers, consultancy can be quite high on the value vs. effort equation • Culture and people are paramount - it‟s a human capital business – if you love the culture and the people it can be a wonderful, uplifting career • Few companies have as much fluidity as consultancies. If you like variety and intellectual stimulation, it only gets better with time… • … but, if you want to run a business, it only gets harder and further away the more senior you get Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 26. Connect Book your one-on-one session with James at www.evisors.com/expert/689 James Weiss Former Senior Manager at He can help you with: • Career Assessment • Consulting Interview Practice • Resume Development …and more! Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 27. Questions & Answers Hosted by:See the rest at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 28. Questions & Answers Question 1: What advice would you give to someone transitioning into consulting post-MBA? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 29. Questions & Answers Question 2: Can an experienced expert in a specialized field enter a consulting firm either mid-level or senior level? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 30. Questions & Answers Question 3: Can you work on other projects that are not within your industry of expertise? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 31. Questions & Answers Question 4: What is the most important skill a consultant must have to advance in their career? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 32. Questions & Answers Question 5: How can you transition into consulting if you do not have any prior experience? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 33. Questions & Answers Question 6: Do you feel your experience with Bain Consulting help you handle future business situations? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 34. Questions & Answers Question 7: What was the work/life balance like at Bain Consulting? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 35. Questions & Answers Question 8: What is the career lifespan of a consultant? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 36. Questions & Answers Question 9: How does the expected career trajectory differ between a professional hire and an MBA graduate? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 37. Questions & Answers Question 10: Is it possible for a line manager to get a job in management consulting? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68
  • 38. Questions & Answers Question 11: Why did you ultimately decide to leave Bain Consulting? Hosted by:See the answer at evisors.com/webinars/webinar/68

Notas do Editor

  1. Describe how senior roles at consulting firms differ from the junior rolesGive an overview of the consulting value proposition – both benefits and costs – at Manager and PartnerGive some thoughts on people who have gotten the most out of the long-term consulting career