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Management Development Essentials                                                                                           2012




             Understanding your communications style and the style of others


Improved communication skills is the key to having better business
relationships
Leaders and managers need to be good communicators. However persuasive communication skills require a high level of self-
awareness. Understanding your personal style of communicating will go a long way toward helping you to create good and
lasting impressions on others. By becoming more aware of how others perceive you, you can adapt more readily to their styles
of communicating. This does not mean you have to be a chameleon, changing with every personality you meet. Instead, you
can make another person more comfortable with you by selecting and emphasising certain behaviours that fit within your
personality and resonate with another.

So regardless of whether you are having a meeting with your boss, a one to one with a team member, or conducting an end of
year performance appraisal with some one planning what and how you are going to say is essential. When you have a clear
understanding of your communications style and intent, then you can eliminate a number of obstacles that typically hinder an
organisation’s ability to work well together well.

This four page guide will help you better understand the communications based on the DISC profile assessment tool. It will
help you understand the communications style / traits of the people you work with in the organisation and it will give you clear
direction how to practically improve communications within your team. Lastly, it will also help those of you who have sales or
client facing roles to profile some of the key people who you need to influence and interact with. Get your communication
correct and business will follow!


 The Evolve Consultants

 What is a DISC Profile

 The DISC profile is a quadrant model that is often used to examine the behaviour of individuals in their work environment
 or within a specific situation. It focuses on their styles and preferences of such behaviours. It organises the characteristics
 of behaviour into four major "behaviour styles" and they tend to exhibit specific characteristics common to that particular
 style.

 All individuals possess all four, but what differs from one to another is the extent of each. It is non-judgmental personal
 assessment tool that helps people get a snapshot of their behavioural preferences and allows them discover similarity/
 behavioural differences with others. Like all assessment tools it does not take ‘learned behaviours’ into account. It is a
 great starting place to improve your ability to influence others. However, before you can improve your communication
 skills you need to be very consciously aware of how you come across currently.



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The Driver (Red)                                                 The Expressive (Yellow)
The Red is Results Oriented                                      . The Yellow is Intuition Oriented

1. Reds give the appearance that they know what they             1. Yellows frequently seem to spend much of their time and
   want and seem to display little difficulty expressing their      efforts moving toward a dream for the future.
   conclusions about anything that concerns them.
                                                                 2. This tendency causes some Yellows to react in flighty,
2. For many Reds, the following slogan applies: “Let’s get it       impractical or emotional ways. Yellows can work up
   done and get it done now”.                                       excitement in others about the future.

3. Reds tend to focus primarily on the immediate time            3. It’s easy for Yellows to skip from one idea or activity to
   frame with little concern for the past.                          another, seeming impatient to find the most exciting vision
                                                                    of the moment.
4. Their responses appear swift, efficient and to the point.
   They know what they want and become impatient with
                                                                 4. Yellow behaviour can become intensely stimulating, exciting
   delays.
                                                                    and fun for those who get caught up in Yellow dreams.
5. Reds appear to show little concern for the feelings of
                                                                 5. Yellows focus on their attention upon the future with
   others or for personal relationships. Some may consider
                                                                    intuitive visions and with their natural outspoken
   the Reds actions to be harsh, severe or critical since they
                                                                    characteristics. Thus, they tend to appear more imaginative
   seem to give such limited attention to relationships.
                                                                    and creative with their ideas than to the other styles.
   Others may consider this behaviour efficient, decisive
   and action oriented which provides the direction
   needed.                                                       6. It’s also easy for Yellows to make mistakes because they act
                                                                    out opinions, hunches, intuitions, rather than deal with the
6. Reds seek control through the use of power. They often           harsh reality of hard facts.
   do so when they perceive power as a means to an end.
                                                                 You can begin to validate your earlier assumption that the
                                                                 person you named is indeed a Yellow by using the following
You can begin to validate your earlier assumption that the       checklist. Again, the more checks, the higher the Yellow
person you named is indeed a Red by using the following          tendencies.
checklist.
                                                                 Y/N     Tends to be exciting and   Y/N   Playful
*The more checks, the higher the Red tendencies.                         stimulating

 Y/N    Restless         Y/N    Likes power and authority        Y/N     Inspiring                  Y/N   Likes participating in groups

 Y/N    Competitive      Y/N    Freedom from control and         Y/N     Generates enthusiasm       Y/N   Persuasive
                                supervision
                                                                 Y/N     Convincing                 Y/N   Wants freedom of
 Y/N    Independent      Y/N    Wants direct answers                                                      expression

 Y/N    Strong willed    Y/N    Pioneering                       Y/N     Often dramatic             Y/N   Freedom from detail

 Y/N    Assertive        Y/N    Outspoken                        Y/N     Confident                  Y/N   Likes stimulating ideas

 Y/N    Wants            Y/N    Decisive                         Y/N     Open and friendly          Y/N   Likes change
        immediate                                                        towards others
        results
                                                                 Y/N     Charming                   Y/N   Optimistic
 Y/N    Self reliant     Y/N    Persistent
                                                                 Y/N     Likes working with         Y/N   Talkative
 Y/N    Causes action    Y/N    Argumentative                            people

 Y/N    Vigorous                                                 Y/N     Desires to help others     Y/N   Likes recognition for
                                                                                                                       2
                                                                                                          accomplishments
The Amiable (Green)                                                  The Analyser (Blue)
The Amiable is Relationship Oriented                                 The Analyser is Logic Oriented

1.    The Green style displays a relationship-oriented thrust.             1.   The blue style lives life according to the facts, principles, logic
      Greens interpret their environment on a personal basis                    and consistency one can find in reality.
      and get involved in the feelings and relationships
      between people. They frequently speculate on “who did                2.   Because Analysers tend to behave in ways which fit into their
      what to whom and why”.                                                    overall theory and ideas about the world, others may view them
                                                                                as lacking in enthusiasm or appearing cold or detached.
2.    Persons displaying this style look for personal motives in
      the actions of others. They may find it difficult to believe         3.   Blues project the image of great planners, organisers and
      that some people react purely from a personal principle                   problem solvers with the ability to work out a task systematically
      of practicality or simply from a desire to make the future                from beginning to end.
      sound more exciting.
                                                                           4.   Because of their concern for fact and logical, serious, consistent
3.    Because they concern themselves about how others feel                     organisation of thought, coupled with a desire to be “right”.
      and with relationships between people. They can often                     Analysers may sometimes display a reluctance to declare a
      lend joy, warmth and freshness to a social situation.                     personal point of view.

4.    Persons displaying Green style can also appear slow or               5.   Analysers have a need to analyse all significant possibilities in an
      reluctant to change opinions which hold personal                          attempt to avoid any chance of making illogical or inconsistent
      meaning for them.                                                         decision.

5.    Green frequently stick with the comfortable known and                6.   Facts, logic and faith in principles appear to assume greater
      tend to avoid decisions which might involve risk with the                 importance than personal friendships or personal gratification to
      reactions of people.                                                      an Analyser.

You can begin to validate your earlier assumption that the           You can begin to validate your earlier assumption that the person you
person you named is indeed a Green by using the following            named is indeed an Analyser by using the following checklist. Again, the
checklist.                                                           higher the Analyser tendencies

(The more checks, the higher the Green tendencies)
                                                                     Y/N                                             Y/N         Prefers no sudden
                                                                                 Orderly                                         or abrupt changes
Y/N       Dislikes conflict      Y/N   Minimal work infringement
                                                                     Y/N         Cautious                            Y/N         Harmonious
                                       on home life
Y/N       Patient with others    Y/N   Expects credit for work       Y/N         Performs precise work               Y/N         Checks for
                                       accomplished                                                                              accuracy
Y/N       Thorough               Y/N   Lenient                       Y/N         Likes controlled circumstances      Y/N         Humble

Y/N       Generous               Y/N   Obedient                      Y/N         Diplomatic                          Y/N         Obliging

Y/N       Takes time to listen   Y/N   Accommodating                 Y/N         Likes assurance of security         Y/N         Tends to be
                                                                                                                                 serious and
Y/N       Demonstrates           Y/N   Neighbourly                                                                               persistent
          loyalty                                                    Y/N         Utilises critical thinking          Y/N         Respectful
Y/N       Considerate of         Y/N   Takes time to make
          others’ needs                decisions                     Y/N         Soft spoken                         Y/N         Devout
Y/N       Likes security and     Y/N   Wants guarantees before
                                                                     Y/N         Follows directives and standards    Y/N         Well disciplined
          stability                    change                                    prescribed
Y/N       Satisfied              Y/N   Wants others to agree         Y/N         Agreeable                           Y/N

Y/N       Likes status quo
          unless given reason
          for change



                                                                                                                                      3
HOW TO WORK AND COMMUNICATE WITH ME
Working with the Driver (The Red)                                                       Working with the Amiable (The Green)
People of this style tend to be “results oriented” and tend to be less concerned        Of the four basic interaction styles, the Amiable is the most
about the needs of other people. Thus they may appear to be independent,                relationship oriented. The Amiable style person works with and
competitive, reserved and even aloof in their relationships with others. The Driver     through other people in achieving results or influence, as opposed to
interaction style characterises a person who tends to make things happen. Drivers       directing things to happen. Their friendships and their close
                                                                                        relationships are the highest priority. Amiables tend to be the most
may be assertive or even aggressive at moving toward goals. The Driver                  loyal to both the organisation and to their families: however they also
interested in getting things done efficiently and personal and group productivity is    tend to seek security and maintain status quo. Amiables tend to be
of high importance. The Driver will tend to judge others by his or her own personal     slow to change and to be low risk takers except in service to other
interaction style and will expect others to operate in the same style.                  people.

Though group decisions or meetings may be important within the organisation,            Because of the systematic and thorough approach to both tasks and
Drivers would prefer to work alone because they perceive other people as moving         people, the Amiable is often perceived by Drivers and Expressives as
too slowly and interfering with his/her ability to get things done. Drivers are often   too slow or wishy-washy in making decisions. This can cause
                                                                                        frustration, especially when change is necessary. Yet these
perceived as people who exercise power and control over their environment, both
                                                                                        characteristics of thoroughness, dependability and loyalty are often
in terms of the people involved and the physical surroundings. However, a Driver        the factors that hold an organisation together. To work most
can appear very pleasant and warm but usually on his or her terms.                      effectively with the Amiable, you need to support the individual’s
                                                                                        feelings and relationships with others and to show appreciation for
To work most effectively with the Driver be prepared to show how your ideas can         what they do.
get the results that he or she is looking for.                                                Spend time working with these people as individuals and time
                                                                                              dealing with their personal situations, their families and their
  It is not necessary to build a personal relationship unless that is obviously the           interests.
  desire of the Driver.                                                                       Prepare your case in advance and don’t be disorganised or
  Be specific                                                                                 messy.
  If you agree with the position of the Driver, support the results desired rather            Establish a cooperative effort with the Amiable and avoid
  than supporting the Driver personality. Personal support is not important to her            overstating what you can realistically accomplish together to
   or him, but support of the ideas and the objectives is important                           achieve the objective.
  If you disagree with the position of the Driver, disagree with the facts not the            Communicate patience and take time to listen and draw out the
   person. Avoid personal criticisms. Try to present options to the Driver so that            personal goals of the Amiable
   she or he can make the decision.

Working with the Expressive
Expressives tend to appear warm, to approach other people in an outgoing and
                                                                                        Working with the Analyser (The Blue)
animated way and to be competitive. Expressives will involve you and other
                                                                                        This style may appear to be uncommunicative, distant and guarded in
people in their thinking and their feelings and in decision making and they like to     relationships. Analysers tend to judge others based upon their own
work with groups of people. The person who has an Expressive style tends to             frame of reference which is the need for perfection in their work. A
work fast and will often make impulsive decisions. Expressives tend to have a           person of this style tends to be sensitive and to worry about things
high consideration for the needs of other people, tends to seek out social approval     being done properly. They are very accurate in their work and have
and likes to have a lot of “air time”.                                                  great need for knowing exactly how things are supposed to be done.
                                                                                        Thus, they require detailed explanations, are usually slow to change,
The Expressive wants other people to take a personal interest in what he or she         and tend to be low risk takers.
thinks and does. Personal recognition is important and when there is high
visibility, it is motivating. Too many facts or details will often interfere with the   The Analyser makes decisions and judgements based upon facts and
process. Someone else will need to take care of this. *Take time for relating with      will communicate these facts to others. They also separate emotion
them and for some socialising                                                           from fact and tend to have difficulty understanding people who are

To work most effectively with Expressives you need to support their ideas and                Know your facts and figures - detail counts.
intentions.                                                                                  Keep conversations and questions very structured.
  Look for their opinions and things that they find most interesting, particularly           Be organised and be accurate
  in those areas in which you would like to develop a working relationship.                  Keep dialogue focused on the issues unless directed otherwise
  Plan to ask questions about their ideas and their opinions and                             Don’t take their investigative style personally – it’s just business!
  take time to listen to what they have to say.                                              Make sure you are familiar with processes and protocols - they
  Spend some time exploring the stimulating ideas and also                                   will expect you to follow them
  possible solutions both from your point of view and from theirs.
             You will be expected to be well versed
  Don’t deal with details but put them in writing.
  Ask for their opinions and ideas regarding people
                                                                                                                                                 4

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How to communicate in a more persuasive way special report on understanding the disc profile newsletter

  • 1. Management Development Essentials 2012 Understanding your communications style and the style of others Improved communication skills is the key to having better business relationships Leaders and managers need to be good communicators. However persuasive communication skills require a high level of self- awareness. Understanding your personal style of communicating will go a long way toward helping you to create good and lasting impressions on others. By becoming more aware of how others perceive you, you can adapt more readily to their styles of communicating. This does not mean you have to be a chameleon, changing with every personality you meet. Instead, you can make another person more comfortable with you by selecting and emphasising certain behaviours that fit within your personality and resonate with another. So regardless of whether you are having a meeting with your boss, a one to one with a team member, or conducting an end of year performance appraisal with some one planning what and how you are going to say is essential. When you have a clear understanding of your communications style and intent, then you can eliminate a number of obstacles that typically hinder an organisation’s ability to work well together well. This four page guide will help you better understand the communications based on the DISC profile assessment tool. It will help you understand the communications style / traits of the people you work with in the organisation and it will give you clear direction how to practically improve communications within your team. Lastly, it will also help those of you who have sales or client facing roles to profile some of the key people who you need to influence and interact with. Get your communication correct and business will follow! The Evolve Consultants What is a DISC Profile The DISC profile is a quadrant model that is often used to examine the behaviour of individuals in their work environment or within a specific situation. It focuses on their styles and preferences of such behaviours. It organises the characteristics of behaviour into four major "behaviour styles" and they tend to exhibit specific characteristics common to that particular style. All individuals possess all four, but what differs from one to another is the extent of each. It is non-judgmental personal assessment tool that helps people get a snapshot of their behavioural preferences and allows them discover similarity/ behavioural differences with others. Like all assessment tools it does not take ‘learned behaviours’ into account. It is a great starting place to improve your ability to influence others. However, before you can improve your communication skills you need to be very consciously aware of how you come across currently. Produced by Evolve Consultants, 16 Castle Avenue, Clontarf, Dublin 3, Ireland. Contact details: info@evolve.ie Website: www.evolve.ie Phone Number: 00353 1 8532075
  • 2. The Driver (Red) The Expressive (Yellow) The Red is Results Oriented . The Yellow is Intuition Oriented 1. Reds give the appearance that they know what they 1. Yellows frequently seem to spend much of their time and want and seem to display little difficulty expressing their efforts moving toward a dream for the future. conclusions about anything that concerns them. 2. This tendency causes some Yellows to react in flighty, 2. For many Reds, the following slogan applies: “Let’s get it impractical or emotional ways. Yellows can work up done and get it done now”. excitement in others about the future. 3. Reds tend to focus primarily on the immediate time 3. It’s easy for Yellows to skip from one idea or activity to frame with little concern for the past. another, seeming impatient to find the most exciting vision of the moment. 4. Their responses appear swift, efficient and to the point. They know what they want and become impatient with 4. Yellow behaviour can become intensely stimulating, exciting delays. and fun for those who get caught up in Yellow dreams. 5. Reds appear to show little concern for the feelings of 5. Yellows focus on their attention upon the future with others or for personal relationships. Some may consider intuitive visions and with their natural outspoken the Reds actions to be harsh, severe or critical since they characteristics. Thus, they tend to appear more imaginative seem to give such limited attention to relationships. and creative with their ideas than to the other styles. Others may consider this behaviour efficient, decisive and action oriented which provides the direction needed. 6. It’s also easy for Yellows to make mistakes because they act out opinions, hunches, intuitions, rather than deal with the 6. Reds seek control through the use of power. They often harsh reality of hard facts. do so when they perceive power as a means to an end. You can begin to validate your earlier assumption that the person you named is indeed a Yellow by using the following You can begin to validate your earlier assumption that the checklist. Again, the more checks, the higher the Yellow person you named is indeed a Red by using the following tendencies. checklist. Y/N Tends to be exciting and Y/N Playful *The more checks, the higher the Red tendencies. stimulating Y/N Restless Y/N Likes power and authority Y/N Inspiring Y/N Likes participating in groups Y/N Competitive Y/N Freedom from control and Y/N Generates enthusiasm Y/N Persuasive supervision Y/N Convincing Y/N Wants freedom of Y/N Independent Y/N Wants direct answers expression Y/N Strong willed Y/N Pioneering Y/N Often dramatic Y/N Freedom from detail Y/N Assertive Y/N Outspoken Y/N Confident Y/N Likes stimulating ideas Y/N Wants Y/N Decisive Y/N Open and friendly Y/N Likes change immediate towards others results Y/N Charming Y/N Optimistic Y/N Self reliant Y/N Persistent Y/N Likes working with Y/N Talkative Y/N Causes action Y/N Argumentative people Y/N Vigorous Y/N Desires to help others Y/N Likes recognition for 2 accomplishments
  • 3. The Amiable (Green) The Analyser (Blue) The Amiable is Relationship Oriented The Analyser is Logic Oriented 1. The Green style displays a relationship-oriented thrust. 1. The blue style lives life according to the facts, principles, logic Greens interpret their environment on a personal basis and consistency one can find in reality. and get involved in the feelings and relationships between people. They frequently speculate on “who did 2. Because Analysers tend to behave in ways which fit into their what to whom and why”. overall theory and ideas about the world, others may view them as lacking in enthusiasm or appearing cold or detached. 2. Persons displaying this style look for personal motives in the actions of others. They may find it difficult to believe 3. Blues project the image of great planners, organisers and that some people react purely from a personal principle problem solvers with the ability to work out a task systematically of practicality or simply from a desire to make the future from beginning to end. sound more exciting. 4. Because of their concern for fact and logical, serious, consistent 3. Because they concern themselves about how others feel organisation of thought, coupled with a desire to be “right”. and with relationships between people. They can often Analysers may sometimes display a reluctance to declare a lend joy, warmth and freshness to a social situation. personal point of view. 4. Persons displaying Green style can also appear slow or 5. Analysers have a need to analyse all significant possibilities in an reluctant to change opinions which hold personal attempt to avoid any chance of making illogical or inconsistent meaning for them. decision. 5. Green frequently stick with the comfortable known and 6. Facts, logic and faith in principles appear to assume greater tend to avoid decisions which might involve risk with the importance than personal friendships or personal gratification to reactions of people. an Analyser. You can begin to validate your earlier assumption that the You can begin to validate your earlier assumption that the person you person you named is indeed a Green by using the following named is indeed an Analyser by using the following checklist. Again, the checklist. higher the Analyser tendencies (The more checks, the higher the Green tendencies) Y/N Y/N Prefers no sudden Orderly or abrupt changes Y/N Dislikes conflict Y/N Minimal work infringement Y/N Cautious Y/N Harmonious on home life Y/N Patient with others Y/N Expects credit for work Y/N Performs precise work Y/N Checks for accomplished accuracy Y/N Thorough Y/N Lenient Y/N Likes controlled circumstances Y/N Humble Y/N Generous Y/N Obedient Y/N Diplomatic Y/N Obliging Y/N Takes time to listen Y/N Accommodating Y/N Likes assurance of security Y/N Tends to be serious and Y/N Demonstrates Y/N Neighbourly persistent loyalty Y/N Utilises critical thinking Y/N Respectful Y/N Considerate of Y/N Takes time to make others’ needs decisions Y/N Soft spoken Y/N Devout Y/N Likes security and Y/N Wants guarantees before Y/N Follows directives and standards Y/N Well disciplined stability change prescribed Y/N Satisfied Y/N Wants others to agree Y/N Agreeable Y/N Y/N Likes status quo unless given reason for change 3
  • 4. HOW TO WORK AND COMMUNICATE WITH ME Working with the Driver (The Red) Working with the Amiable (The Green) People of this style tend to be “results oriented” and tend to be less concerned Of the four basic interaction styles, the Amiable is the most about the needs of other people. Thus they may appear to be independent, relationship oriented. The Amiable style person works with and competitive, reserved and even aloof in their relationships with others. The Driver through other people in achieving results or influence, as opposed to interaction style characterises a person who tends to make things happen. Drivers directing things to happen. Their friendships and their close relationships are the highest priority. Amiables tend to be the most may be assertive or even aggressive at moving toward goals. The Driver loyal to both the organisation and to their families: however they also interested in getting things done efficiently and personal and group productivity is tend to seek security and maintain status quo. Amiables tend to be of high importance. The Driver will tend to judge others by his or her own personal slow to change and to be low risk takers except in service to other interaction style and will expect others to operate in the same style. people. Though group decisions or meetings may be important within the organisation, Because of the systematic and thorough approach to both tasks and Drivers would prefer to work alone because they perceive other people as moving people, the Amiable is often perceived by Drivers and Expressives as too slowly and interfering with his/her ability to get things done. Drivers are often too slow or wishy-washy in making decisions. This can cause frustration, especially when change is necessary. Yet these perceived as people who exercise power and control over their environment, both characteristics of thoroughness, dependability and loyalty are often in terms of the people involved and the physical surroundings. However, a Driver the factors that hold an organisation together. To work most can appear very pleasant and warm but usually on his or her terms. effectively with the Amiable, you need to support the individual’s feelings and relationships with others and to show appreciation for To work most effectively with the Driver be prepared to show how your ideas can what they do. get the results that he or she is looking for. Spend time working with these people as individuals and time dealing with their personal situations, their families and their It is not necessary to build a personal relationship unless that is obviously the interests. desire of the Driver. Prepare your case in advance and don’t be disorganised or Be specific messy. If you agree with the position of the Driver, support the results desired rather Establish a cooperative effort with the Amiable and avoid than supporting the Driver personality. Personal support is not important to her overstating what you can realistically accomplish together to or him, but support of the ideas and the objectives is important achieve the objective. If you disagree with the position of the Driver, disagree with the facts not the Communicate patience and take time to listen and draw out the person. Avoid personal criticisms. Try to present options to the Driver so that personal goals of the Amiable she or he can make the decision. Working with the Expressive Expressives tend to appear warm, to approach other people in an outgoing and Working with the Analyser (The Blue) animated way and to be competitive. Expressives will involve you and other This style may appear to be uncommunicative, distant and guarded in people in their thinking and their feelings and in decision making and they like to relationships. Analysers tend to judge others based upon their own work with groups of people. The person who has an Expressive style tends to frame of reference which is the need for perfection in their work. A work fast and will often make impulsive decisions. Expressives tend to have a person of this style tends to be sensitive and to worry about things high consideration for the needs of other people, tends to seek out social approval being done properly. They are very accurate in their work and have and likes to have a lot of “air time”. great need for knowing exactly how things are supposed to be done. Thus, they require detailed explanations, are usually slow to change, The Expressive wants other people to take a personal interest in what he or she and tend to be low risk takers. thinks and does. Personal recognition is important and when there is high visibility, it is motivating. Too many facts or details will often interfere with the The Analyser makes decisions and judgements based upon facts and process. Someone else will need to take care of this. *Take time for relating with will communicate these facts to others. They also separate emotion them and for some socialising from fact and tend to have difficulty understanding people who are To work most effectively with Expressives you need to support their ideas and Know your facts and figures - detail counts. intentions. Keep conversations and questions very structured. Look for their opinions and things that they find most interesting, particularly Be organised and be accurate in those areas in which you would like to develop a working relationship. Keep dialogue focused on the issues unless directed otherwise Plan to ask questions about their ideas and their opinions and Don’t take their investigative style personally – it’s just business! take time to listen to what they have to say. Make sure you are familiar with processes and protocols - they Spend some time exploring the stimulating ideas and also will expect you to follow them possible solutions both from your point of view and from theirs. You will be expected to be well versed Don’t deal with details but put them in writing. Ask for their opinions and ideas regarding people 4