Oct 17: Distinctions between "Product" and "Project" Management w/ Robert Kelly, PMP

Transcript from Oct 17, 2011:
Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP
Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects
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INTRO
There tends to be a lot of debate on the roles & responsibilities of the Project Manager vs. the Product Manager. In this
twitter talk, we would like to gain a better understanding of how these roles can more effectively work together to bring
to market high quality products.

Robert says, "I am honored to join the Global Product Management Community on this upcoming twitter chat! This is a
tremendous opportunity for thought leaders in the space to come together and really bounce ideas off of one another,
gain insight, and grow their own understanding on a number of topics in product management. I am very excited and
looking forward to it."

ABOUT ROBERT KELLY, PMP
Robert Kelly has over 11 years of experience in IT service delivery, IT services portfolio development,
and enterprise business process change at some of the largest financial services firms and
hardware/software OEMs. He has been a customer facing, contract execution PM (Service Delivery)
managing teams of 30+ technicians, as well as a business embedded PM managing internal enterprise
initiatives (i.e. - new product development). The initiatives managed by Robert have been very complex in nature; with
teams comprised of 12+ core members/30+extended, sitting in 10+ countries, and at all levels of the organization
(Directors, Executive Directors, Vice President, and General Management). Robert's blog, Kelly's Contemplation
http://kellycrew.wordpress.com was named a Top 10 Finalist in Computer Weekly's 2010 Project Management Blog
Awards.

QUESTIONS
Q1 As a product manager, what do you see the role of a project manager being?

Q2 Often, speed to market is a crucial aspect of product development. How do you feel the project management
PROCESS hinders or enables speed to market?

Q3 What is the greatest value-add that a Project Manager can provide to you as the Product Manager?

Q4 With the green/sustainability movement growing stronger each year, whose responsibility is it to make sure the
products are considering this space?

Q5 Project managers are very focused on requirements (what's in and what's out), the scope. However, markets shift.
What is your perspective on their ability to accept and manage change?

MENTIONED DURING TALK
DOD – Department of Defense
ITAR - International Traffic in Arms Regulations
Tom Peters http://www.tompeters.com/
Rich Mironov – Product Management and Parenting http://bit.ly/rpjOhi

Books:
From The Economist http://bit.ly/v9lfCu
Scrappy Project Management w/Kimberly Wiefling http://bit.ly/ojFjX6
The Accidental Project Manager http://amzn.to/rBbZk7
The Lazy Project Manager http://bit.ly/quoysz

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TWEET CHRONOLOGY

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cindyfsolomon Started pre-talk w/ @brainmates & @rkelly976 Listen http://t.co/d5yfqr37 3:47pm

rkelly976 10 Minutes until I join in a discussion on Product Management vs. Project Management. Hope folks from
#PMChat will join #prodmgmttalk 3:48pm

ProdMgmtTalk We talk about serious issues in a relaxed manner weekly!#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT
Today's questions for discussion http://t.co/vkiodQGn PR http://t.co/VTkCnzif 3:54pm

rkelly976 #PMChat crew, Beer has already been spoken about here on the #prodmgmttalk 3:54pm

gander2112 Beer, is there anything it CAN'T do? #prodmgmttalk 3:55pm

ProdMgmtTalk Robert is talking about #pmchat Twitter Talk at 12 ET on Fridays with 15 min pretalk introducing
guest #prodmgmttalk 3:57pm

ProdMgmtTalk Welcome @gander2112 ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 3:57pm

brainmates A truly wonderful product! RT @gander2112: Beer, is there anything it CANT do? #prodmgmttalk
3:57pm

gander2112 looking forward to Q3. Guess what my first answer will be...#prodmgmttalk 3:58pm

ProdMgmtTalk We're talking about tweet chat tools http://t.co/6eJl4Fjb #prodmgmttalk 3:59pm

ProdMgmtTalk Drum roll - And we're on the hour! Welcome to our speaker Robert Kelly @rkelly976 #prodmgmttalk
4:01pm

ProdMgmtTalk Please introduce yourself: where you're tweeting from, your involvement w/prod/proj management
#prodmgmttalk 4:01pm

ProdMgmtTalk This is Cindy @cindyfsolomon your co-host, tweeting from across the bay from San Francisco

brainmates Its Adrienne, co-host tweeting from Sydney #prodmgmttalk 4:02pm

gander2112 Geoff Anderson, Tucson Arizona. Sunny, 90F, and crystal clear outside here #prodmgmttalk
4:02pm

rkelly976 Thank you so much for having me! I am Robert Kelly from Raleigh, NC, USA. Honored to be here on
the #prodmgmttalk 4:02pm

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ErikaLAndersen Erika Andersen from Salt Lake City, Utah checking into #prodmgmttalk 4:04pm

gander2112 is there an audiofeed? #prodmgmttalk 4:05pm

rkelly976 Geoff, Erika...nice to meet you! #prodmgmttalk 4:05pm

ProdMgmtTalk We are broadcasting live on the air! Listen in now at http://t.co/5LMxjKNA #BlogTalkRadio

gander2112 Erika is ok, but she spells her last name wrong ;-) #prodmgmttalk 4:06pm

ErikaLAndersen Sounds like a great topic ... Distinctions between "product" and "project" management ... Come join
the fun #prodmgmttalk 4:06pm

ProdMgmtTalk You may call in to talk with us GUEST CALL-IN (323) 927-2957 #prodmgmttalk 4:06pm

ProdMgmtTalk Q1 As a product manager, what do you see the role of a project manager being? #prodmgmttalk
http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:06pm

brainmates Q1 As a product manager, what do you see the role of a project manager being? #prodmgmttalk 4:06pm

ProdMgmtTalk asked Robert if requires a large org to have both project & product management departments
#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:07pm

ErikaLAndersen Sorry Geoff, but the magic is all in the 'e' RT @gander2112: Erika is ok, but she spells her last name
wrong ;-) #prodmgmttalk 4:07pm

ProdMgmtTalk Welcome @ErikaLAndersen ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:07pm

gander2112 A1: Honestly, keeping me honest. Preventing overcommitment.#prodmgmttalk 4:07pm

gander2112 A1: This is the first job where I had a formal Project manager, and I love it. PMP's rule #prodmgmttalk
4:08pm

ProdMgmtTalk Please welcome our speaker Robert Kelly, PMP @rkelly976 PMP Managing Partner, Kelly Project
Solutions #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:08pm

rkelly976 Agree :) RT @gander2112: A1: This is the first job where I had a formal Project manager, and I love it.
PMPs rule #prodmgmttalk 4:08pm

brainmates A1: Project managers oversee project budget, timelines, keeping project on track #prodmgmttalk
4:09pm

ProdMgmtTalk RT @gander2112: A1: This is the first job where I had a formal Project manager, and I love it. PMP's
rule #prodmgmttalk 4:09pm

brainmates I love Project Managers too... Tough job! #prodmgmttalk 4:09pm

ProdMgmtTalk Tom Peters says "Everything is a Project" #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:10pm
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schoenfeldj @perfectmarket is lucky to have great ones! RT @brainmates: I love Project Managers too... Tough
job! #prodmgmttalk 4:10pm

gander2112 Without a project manager, a product manager is buried in the tactical details. Never get to the real value
of #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk 4:10pm

brainmates True! RT @gander2112: Without a project manager, a product manager is buried in the tactical
details. #prodmgmttalk 4:11pm

ProdMgmtTalk Welcome @schoenfeldj ! We're discussing http://t.co/vkiodQGn Listen here: http://t.co/9jDicamm

gander2112 A product is multiple projects. Task break down to maximize efficiency #prodmgmttalk 4:11pm

kfriedson RT @gander2112: Without a project manager, a product manager is buried in the tactical details. Never get
to the real value of #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk 4:12pm

ProdMgmtTalk Welcome @kfriedson ! "there's push on #project mgmt to be more strategic - but #prdmgmt is
already #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:13pm

gander2112 #prodmgmt w/o project managment is apple pie without vanilla ice cream :-) #prodmgmttalk 4:13pm

ProdMgmtTalk @rkelly976 says #Project management often aligned w/IT & #prodmgmt aligned w/sales &
mrktg #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:14pm

brainmates @rkelly976 says that #prodmgmt more strategic than #projectmanagement. #prodmgmttalk 4:14pm

brainmates Sweet RT @gander2112: #prodmgmt w/o project managment is apple pie without vanilla ice cream :-
) #prodmgmttalk 4:14pm

gander2112 Sadly, What I learned about project management came from a book by The Economist. I hate to admit
that, but it was a good rd. #prodmgmttalk 4:14pm

rkelly976 Great! RT @kfriedson: @gander2112: W/out a project manager, a product manager is buried in the tactical
details. #prodmgmttalk 4:14pm

ProdMgmtTalk @rkelly976 says #project mgrs work themselves out of a job at project completion, #prodmgmt stays
around! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:15pm

ErikaLAndersen Scary thought: @rkelly976 says that project managers are working themselves out of a job at
completion #prodmgmttalk 4:15pm

ErikaLAndersen @gander2112: Pray tell, what was the book? #prodmgmttalk 4:15pm

ProdMgmtTalk A strong #project mgr steps outside of tactical to understand entire biz perspective & will be asked
back to other projects #prodmgmttalk 4:16pm

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gander2112 If a #project manager works themselves out of a job, then the company doesn't value the discipline

ProdMgmtTalk Welcome @perfectmarket ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:17pm

brainmates Product Managers stay with a product through its lifecycle & Project Managers move on to the next
project #prodmgmttalk 4:17pm

gander2112 From the Economist Press : Guide to Project Management. Good read. Non-technical #prodmgmttalk
4:18pm

ProdMgmtTalk @rkelly976 says #project mgrs seen inflexible gatekeepers - they need excellent #prodmgmt to
provide data #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:18pm

ErikaLAndersen Thanks! RT @gander2112: From the Economist Press : Guide to Project Management. Good read.
Non-technical #prodmgmttalk 4:18pm

rkelly976 I will get that, thx RT @gander2112: From the Economist Press : Guide to Project Management. Good read.
Non-technical #prodmgmttalk 4:19pm

gander2112 My project manager prevents me from being dumb very often #prodmgmttalk 4:19pm

ProdMgmtTalk Part 1: Q2 Often, speed to market is a crucial aspect of product development. #prodmgmttalk 4:20pm

ProdMgmtTalk Part 2 Q2 How do you feel the project management PROCESS enables that? Or do you think it
hinders it? #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:20pm

gander2112 A2: If belief is project mgmt hinders velocity, try living without it. #prodmgmttalk 4:20pm

gander2112 A2: The second or third time you re-do the product/project, you will see the value #prodmgmttalk
4:21pm

ProdMgmtTalk Q2 (reworded) How does #proj mgmt enable or hinder speed to market? #prodmgmttalk 4:21pm

brainmates A2: Project Mgmt takes away the pain of Prod Development. #prodmgmttalk 4:22pm

gander2112 An old employer I worked for, I watched them do routine projects 2x. Why do it right, if you can do it twice
quickly? #prodmgmttalk 4:22pm

ProdMgmtTalk Accolades for @gander2112 ! Mentioned: Scrappy Project Mgmt by Kimberly Wiefling

gander2112 Do a product with DOD/ITAR requirements, and you MUST have Project Management #prodmgmttalk
4:23pm

gander2112 Really quiet today. #prodmgmttalk 4:24pm

ProdMgmtTalk About Scrappy Project Mgmt http://t.co/GGRfmlvC #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:24pm

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ErikaLAndersen RT @gander2112: I watched an old employer do routine projects 2x. Why do it right if you can do it
twice quickly? #prodmgmttalk 4:24pm

brainmates I know... RT @gander2112: Really quiet today. #prodmgmttalk 4:24pm

gander2112 Do project managers envy product managers? #prodmgmttalk 4:25pm

ProdMgmtTalk Q3 What is the greatest valu e-add that a Project Manager can provide to you as the Product
Manager? #prodmgmttalk 4:25pm

gander2112 Oh, you know it, a bad #prodmgmt person can ruin program. (from the audio feed) #prodmgmttalk
4:26pm

ProdMgmtTalk Mondays 4:00 PM PT with @cindysolomon @rkelly976 @kellysolutions http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT

gander2112 A3: Discipline. Attention to detail. Interface to development team. Tactical proficiency. Time/resource
mgmt #prodmgmttalk 4:27pm

cindyfsolomon RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Q3 What is the greatest value-add that a Project Manager can provide to you as
the Product Manager? #prodmgmttalk 4:28pm

gander2112 Most Project managers I know are happy to leave #prodmgmt to the product managers #prodmgmttalk
4:28pm

brainmates Good ones do! RT @gander2112: Most Project managers I know are happy to leave #prodmgmt to the
product managers #prodmgmttalk 4:29pm

Beta_Boy RT @brainmates: Product Managers stay with a product through its lifecycle & Project Managers move on
to the next project #prodmgmttalk 4:29pm

gander2112 If you want to piss off your project manager, go directly to dev. Hoo boy. #prodmgmttalk 4:29pm

cindyfsolomon A3 #Project mgrs handle tactical issues for #prod mgmr to tailor technical communication &
strategy #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:29pm

ErikaLAndersen RT @gander2112: If you want to piss off your project manager, go directly to dev. Hoo
boy. #prodmgmttalk 4:29pm

cindyfsolomon Welcome @Beta_Boy! We're discussing Q3 http://t.co/w7ygnXYe #prodmgmttalk
http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:30pm

rkelly976 Yes!! RT @gander2112: If you want to piss off your project manager, go directly to dev. Hoo boy.

brainmates A3: Project Mgmt that help with stakeholder management is invaluable during product dev process

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DianeDromgold RT @rkelly976: Yes!! RT @gander2112: If you want to piss off your project manager, go directly to
dev. Hoo boy. #prodmgmttalk 4:31pm

brainmates In #agile environment, Project Manager is more of a facilitator but they r not Product Owner acc
to @rkelly976 #prodmgmttalk 4:31pm

gander2112 Of course we can devolve into a PO vs #prodmgmt discussion ;-)#prodmgmttalk 4:31pm

cindyfsolomon Welcome @DianeDromgold #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:32pm

gander2112 Is "project manager" synonymous with "Scrum master"?#prodmgmttalk 4:33pm

cindyfsolomon Talking about Agile practitioners & open source project managers #prodmgmttalk

cindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: Is "project manager" synonymous with "Scrum master"? #prodmgmttalk

gander2112 In my world, my project managers are certified scrum masters. It works well. #prodmgmttalk 4:34pm

gander2112 I think certification makes a lot of sense for project management. PMP means a level of dedication, and
CE commitment #prodmgmttalk 4:36pm

cindyfsolomon @rkelly976 says "yes" to @gander2112 that #projmgmt are scrum masters (or should be)
#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:36pm

cindyfsolomon Off question - discussing value of certification (Robert is PMP, Cindy is CPM/CPMM) #prodmgmttalk

pmfoundations It works that way but does not need to be that way>>@gander2112Is "project manager" synonymous
with "Scrum master"? #prodmgmttalk 4:37pm

cindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: I think certification makes a lot of sense for project management. PMP means a
level of dedication, and CE commitment #prodmgmttalk 4:37pm

cindyfsolomon Welcome @pmfoundations @annanthem #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:37pm

gander2112 The defense industry is full of non-certified, but kick-arse project managers. #prodmgmttalk 4:37pm

cindyfsolomon Certification adds validity to discipline, but doesn't necessarily vet individual certified holder

rkelly976 @pmfoundations Hey Steve! Welcome to #prodmgmttalk 4:38pm

gander2112 Any idea on how many people are listening into the audio?#prodmgmttalk 4:38pm

evanwolf A3. Green is only one cultural or civic value. Everyone has a duty to apply those values to scope and
process choices. #prodmgmttalk 4:39pm

cindyfsolomon Caller please say hello so we can hear you! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:39pm
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cindyfsolomon Welcome @evanwolf #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:40pm

gander2112 Q4 maybe @evanwolf? #prodmgmttalk 4:40pm

annanthem #prodmgmttalk Certification attests to intention, but may not guarantee execution. That varies by
individual http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:40pm

cindyfsolomon Q4 With green/sustainability movement growing, who's responsibility is it to make sure products are
considering this space? #prodmgmttalk 4:40pm

cindyfsolomon @evanwolf please explain further your statement re: Q4 #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:41pm

ErikaLAndersen RT @annanthem: Certification attests intention, but not execution. Varies by individual
http://t.co/hi3mjuzQ #prodmgmttalk 4:41pm

pmfoundations @rkelly976 Hello - great discussion #prodmgmttalk 4:41pm

cindyfsolomon @evanwolf Robert @rkelly976 is verbally answering Q4 #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:42pm

cindyfsolomon says @rkelly976 "If you really want a green product, must be core value from top level down"

markdavidmoran RT @brainmates: Product Managers stay with a product through its lifecycle & Project Managers
move on to the next project #prodmgmttalk 4:42pm

gander2112 A4: this one can be a bit slippery. I think I will abstain. Agree that leadership comes from top though.

brainmates RT @annanthem Certification attests to intention, but may not guarantee execution. That varies by
individual #prodmgmttalk 4:42pm

pmfoundations I think the projduct manager - they own the way the product works @cindyfsolomon Q4

cindyfsolomon Welcome @markdavidmoran ! Today's background http://t.co/Cav5aJwm #prodmgmttalk

gander2112 A4: A lot like adherence to a formal PLC process #prodmgmttalk 4:44pm

annanthem #prodmgmttalk Being a product manager is like being a parent. Being a project manager is like being a
foster parent...http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:44pm

cindyfsolomon "People lean on top leadership too much...slippery, people are overworked, not evry1 bought
in" #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:45pm

gander2112 A4: Can be tough to achieve if it costs more, or takes longer. Business is business, unless there is a
payoff, hard to jstfy #prodmgmttalk 4:45pm

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brainmates @annanthem Ohhh that is funny! re: Product Manager = Parent, Project Manager = Foster Parent

cindyfsolomon #prodmgmt can cut down on waste & paper, use virtual mtgs...#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1
4:46pm

gander2112 Yeah, but all those are small fry in a normal project (from audio stream) #prodmgmttalk 4:46pm

ErikaLAndersen RT @brainmates: @annanthem Ohhh that is funny! re: Product Manager = Parent, Project Manager
= Foster Parent #prodmgmttalk 4:46pm

cindyfsolomon @rkelly976 worked with over 10 countries on project w/out leaving home base #prodmgmttalk

evanwolf A4. Not just Green. Values include legal compliance, safety, political/worker empowerment, work/life
balance. #prodmgmttalk 4:47pm

cindyfsolomon RT @evanwolf: A4. Not just Green. Values include legal compliance, safety, political/worker
empowerment, work/life balance. #prodmgmttalk 4:47pm

cindyfsolomon @evanwolf thanks for clarifying that green = strategic sustainability in all areas #prodmgmttalk

evanwolf A4. The duty to do the right thing, the moral course, lies in every participant in the product Dev process

pmfoundations @cindyfsolomon Sorry product manager - they own the content of the product #prodmgmttalk
4:49pm

cindyfsolomon Q5 (part2) However, markets shift. What is your perspective on their ability to accept and manage
change? #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:49pm

cindyfsolomon Q5 What is your perspective on #project management's ability to accept and manage change (change
agent)? #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:50pm

gander2112 A5: If anything, Project managers are used to shifting req'mnts, directions, and handle with aplomb

rkelly976 RT @evanwolf: A4. The duty to do the right thing, the moral course, lies in every participant in the product
Dev process #prodmgmttalk 4:50pm

annanthem #prodmgmttalk No more or less of a change agent than any other process-driven function.
http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:51pm

pmfoundations Q5: Product manager owns responding to the mkt shift. Project manager owns impact on current
project/program @cindyfsolomon #prodmgmttalk 4:51pm

cindyfsolomon RT @annanthem: #prodmgmttalk No more or less of a change agent than any other process-driven
function. http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:52pm

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cindyfsolomon RT @pmfoundations: Q5: Product manager owns responding to the mkt shift. Project manager owns
impact on current project/program @cindyfsolomon #prodmgmttalk 4:52pm

gander2112 oops, lost audio #prodmgmttalk 4:52pm

brainmates A5: Good Project Managers understand & manage change, Bad Project Managers are stalwarts

annanthem RT @pmfoundations: Q5: Product manager owns responding to the mkt shift. Project manager owns
impact on current project/program@cindyfsolomon #prodmgmttalk 4:52pm

cindyfsolomon "Certification and title of position does not guarantee quality of professional" #prodmgmttalk
4:53pm

gander2112 A5: agile doesn't mean faster, it means able to adjust course to changing environments #prodmgmttalk
4:53pm

cindyfsolomon Change agent reqs partnerships because you can't change anything in a silo #prodmgmttalk

stempm RT @cindyfsolomon: "Certification and title of position does not guarantee quality of professional"

gander2112 Perhaps being scrum master helps project management adapt and change as needed? #prodmgmttalk
4:54pm

cindyfsolomon The role calls for both #pm to be change agents, but doesn't guarantee effectiveness of practioner

cindyfsolomon Welcome @stempm ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:55pm

cindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: Perhaps being scrum master helps project management adapt and change as
needed? #prodmgmttalk 4:55pm

brainmates RT @gander2112: A5: agile doesnt mean faster, it means able to adjust course to changing
environments #prodmgmttalk 4:55pm

gander2112 Does project management report to engineering or product management? #prodmgmttalk
4:55pm

brainmates Can be both RT @gander2112: Does project management report to engineering or product
management? #prodmgmttalk 4:55pm

annanthem #prodmgmttalk Project Mgmt = Process-driven / Execution-focused. Product Mgmt = Content-driven,
Ideas-focused.http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:55pm

lmckeogh Ah nuts, work got in the way of #prodmgmttalk. I'll have to catch the transcript. Next week. 4:56pm

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cindyfsolomon "The mindset is different on an Agile project" says @rkelly976 #prodmgmttalk 4:56pm

gander2112 I keep having to explain to my boss that Agile != faster. Gets tiring.#prodmgmttalk 4:56pm

cindyfsolomon Welcome @lmckeogh (briefly!) #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:56pm

cindyfsolomon RT @annanthem: #prodmgmttalk Project Mgmt = Process-driven / Execution-focused. Product Mgmt
= Content-driven, Ideas-focused.http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:56pm

pmfoundations @gander2112 totally agree>>A5: agile doesn't mean faster, it means able to adjust course to
changing environments #prodmgmttalk 4:56pm

cindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: I keep having to explain to my boss that Agile != faster. Gets tiring. #prodmgmttalk
4:56pm

brainmates @gander2112 Tell your boss to join our discussions :)#prodmgmttalk 4:57pm

gander2112 I also hate having to explain to people that Agile Demo's are not design reviews. #prodmgmttalk 4:57pm

cindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: I also hate having to explain to people that Agile Demo's are not design reviews.

stempm Cool topic! Proj. Mngs, Prod. Mngrs, Scrum Musters.. They are all different proffesions with different goals.

gander2112 Um, nah. I will pass on that ;-) RT @brainmates: @gander2112 Tell your boss to join our discussions
:) #prodmgmttalk 4:58pm

brainmates @gander2112 I hate having to explain that wireframes are not design reviews :) #prodmgmttalk 4:58pm

cindyfsolomon RT @stempm: Cool topic! Proj. Mngs, Prod. Mngrs, Scrum Musters.. They are all different proffesions
with different goals.#prodmgmttalk 4:59pm

stempm Using each appropriately is sthe key to success! Orgs fail when they try to substitute projmgmt for prodmgmt
for scrummusters #prodmgmttalk 4:59pm

gander2112 Oh yeah. That too. RT @brainmates: @gander2112 I hate having to explain that wireframes are not
design reviews :) #prodmgmttalk 4:59pm

annanthem #prodmgmttalk Will have to catch the rest on transcript... Thanks...http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 5:00pm

gander2112 Or, one person for all 3 RT @stempm: Orgs fail when they try to substitute projmgmt for prodmgmt for
scrummusters #prodmgmttalk 5:00pm

cindyfsolomon Unedited transcript available soon at http://t.co/aDC0DAsK scroll to bottom & read
up #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:00pm

gander2112 Topic for a different day - Risk management, and product management. #prodmgmttalk 5:01pm

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cindyfsolomon Follow us on LinkedIn http://t.co/KF6Uk2jn Join LinkedIn group http://t.co/b3WFJIIS #prodmgmttalk

brainmates Oooohhh - Nice! RT @gander2112: Topic for a different day - Risk management, and product
management. #prodmgmttalk 5:01pm

cindyfsolomon Contribute to the Global Product Management Talk blog http://t.co/kSJQdy3V #prodmgmttalk

cindyfsolomon Global Product Management Talk Speaker Schedule http://t.co/raKf6V7R #prodmgmttalk

gander2112 Thanks for the session! Great session! #prodmgmttalk 5:02pm

rkelly976 Thank you all so much! Great group here on #prodmgmttalk 5:02pm

cindyfsolomon Next week: Building Innovative Products w/Jason Hardy-Smith, VP Product of Bright Idea

stempm @gander2112 That sounds fun and this is what we could really learn from PMPs! #prodmgmttalk 5:03pm

cindyfsolomon Thank you @rkelly976 this was a great talk! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:03pm

brainmates Thanks so much for joining us. We speak again next week Tues 10AM. We are talking #innovation &
#prodmgmt w/ VP of Bright Idea #prodmgmttalk 5:03pm

cindyfsolomon #PMChat earn PDUs when they participate in twitter chats! Ahhhh! #prodmgmttalk

cindyfsolomon "Self-directive study" #project mgrs submit transcript to PDI to earn PDU - incentive! #prodmgmttalk
5:05pm

stempm RT @cindyfsolomon Next week: Building Innovative Products w/Jason Hardy-Smith, VP Product of Bright
Idea #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/TMVm3RAF 5:05pm

cindyfsolomon #PMChat has a pre-game show with gamified incentives - free book giveaways: ideas for us!

cindyfsolomon @rkelly976 Thank you Robert with 3 little ones and a dog (all quiet) during this talk! #prodmgmttalk

stempm for next hackathon anywhere, can someone come-up with an app to send Twitter-scheduled events to
calendar? i keep missing #prodmgmttalk! :) 5:08pm

cindyfsolomon Calling all social media cheer leaders for Global Product Management Talk ! #prodmgmttalk

cindyfsolomon RT @stempm: for next hackathon anywhere, can someone come-up with an app to send Twitter-
scheduled events to calendar? i keep missing #prodmgmttalk! :) 5:09pm

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cindyfsolomon Pregame show, guests posts, recaps, blog feed (we can add a blog feed for product mgmt also)

cindyfsolomon Q6 - product managers less likely to promote themselves than project managers? #prodmgmttalk

cindyfsolomon Thank you everyone for today's participation! Today's http://t.co/Cav5aJwm #prodmgmttalk

cindyfsolomon Mandate over next 3 years: 20-40% must fill positions via social media - imperitive to promote selves

cindyfsolomon Hootsuite, buffer, twuffer great tweet scheduling tools & reminders #prodmgmttalk 5:18pm

cindyfsolomon http://t.co/AxbXVv2a is a new tool for me great resource http://t.co/uVC7xrh4 #prodmgmttalk
5:19pm

cindyfsolomon Thank you Robert Kelly @rkelly976 for speaking today!#prodmgmttalk 5:23pm

rkelly976 It was fun! Thank you for the oppty! RT @cindyfsolomon: Thank you Robert Kelly @rkelly976 for speaking
today! #prodmgmttalk 5:29pm

cindyfsolomon Bravo! #prodmgmttalk @gander2112 @annanthem @ErikaLAndersen @pmfoundations
@evanwolf @markdavidmoran @DianeDromgold @stempm @Beta_Boy 5:29pm

rkelly976 Are you a Product Manager? Check out @ProdMgmtTalk and their community! Great folks, lots of fun,
wonderful resource!#prodmgmttalk 5:30pm

cindyfsolomon Awesome! @rkelly976 @kellysolutions @schoenfeldj @perfectmarket @brainmates
@prodmgmttalk @kfriedson @lmkeogh #prodmgmttalk 5:31pm

cindyfsolomon Mondays 4:00 PM PT #prodmgmttalk with @cindysolomon @brainmates http://t.co/mUsSAna1
5:35pm

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