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The Computer
Scientist and the
Cleaner
Ian Gent
University of St Andrews
This is a DRAFT talk, version 3
For more context please visit:
http://iangent.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/the-computer-scientist-and-cleaner.html
Monday, 7 October 13
... or ...
Monday, 7 October 13
A short history of
sexism in St Andrews
Monday, 7 October 13
... or ...
Monday, 7 October 13
The most important
problem for computing
Monday, 7 October 13
... or ...
Monday, 7 October 13
If you’re not
uncomfortable for the
next few minutes I’m
not doing my job
Monday, 7 October 13
What is this talk, really?
A short talk about gender balance and sexism in
computer science.
Monday, 7 October 13
What is this talk, really?
These are my personal opinions, not based on School
or University policy
Not a part of CS1002 in any sense, just something I
think you should be exposed to
Monday, 7 October 13
The Computer Scientist
and the Cleaner
• Let me tell you a story.
“The computer scientist and the cleaner had
a long and happy marriage. One of their few
arguments was when she forgot their
wedding anniversary. But their marriage was
strong and he forgave her.”
Monday, 7 October 13
The Computer Scientist
and the Cleaner
“One of their few arguments was when she
forgot their wedding anniversary.”
• Let me ask you a question.
• Who forgot the anniversary?
• Was it the computer scientist or the
cleaner?
Monday, 7 October 13
The Computer Scientist
and the Cleaner
“One of their few arguments was when she
forgot their wedding anniversary.”
• Let me ask Google a question.
• Who forgot the anniversary?
• Was it the computer scientist or the
cleaner?
Monday, 7 October 13
C
Unmoderated image search for
“Computer Scientist”
Monday, 7 October 13
Unmoderated image search for
“Cleaner”
Monday, 7 October 13
Who forgot the
anniversary?
“The computer scientist and the cleaner had
a long and happy marriage. One of their few
arguments was when she forgot their
wedding anniversary. But their marriage was
strong and he forgave her.”
• Look inside your brain
• Did you think the woman was the
cleaner?
Monday, 7 October 13
A short history of
sexism in St Andrews
• The University is 600 years old, yet ...
• Its first female professor was a computer
scientist!
• Prof Ursula Martin MBE, now at QMUL
• Yes, a 600 year old University’s first female
professor hasn’t retired yet!
• For 579 years we didn’t have a female Prof
• Until 2004, the Rules of Golf for women were
made by a male only club in St Andrews
• For 595 years we didn’t have a female Principal
• Prof Louise Richardson
Monday, 7 October 13
Gender Balance
CS1002
Monday, 7 October 13
Gender Balance
CS Lecturers
Monday, 7 October 13
Gender Balance
CS Senior Lecturers & Readers
Monday, 7 October 13
Gender Balance
CS Professors
Monday, 7 October 13
Let’s be clear...
• The University of St Andrews does not have
sexist hiring policies
• We have clear non-sexist hiring policies
• http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/hr/edi/inclusiverec/
• The gender balance in St Andrews CS
• reflects general imbalance in the discipline
• and it’s a big problem
Monday, 7 October 13
The most important
problem for computing
Monday, 7 October 13
Why the most important
problem?
Why should we have more women in CS?
I only know of two good reasons, but they
are overpoweringly good.
• It’s right
• Computer Science would be better
Monday, 7 October 13
But is it a problem now?
• In the past this was a problem
• And it still is
• An almost random example
• Science faculty’s subtle gender biases favor
male students
• Proceedings National Academy of
Science, USA, 2012
• http://www.pnas.org/content/early/
2012/09/14/1211286109
• The change from the past is that gender
biases are now subtle
In addition to determining whether faculty expressed a bias
against female students, we also sought to identify the processes
contributing to this bias. To do so, we investigated whether
faculty members’ perceptions of student competence would help
to explain why they would be less likely to hire a female (relative
to an identical male) student for a laboratory manager position.
Additionally, we examined the role of faculty members’ preex-
isting subtle bias against women. We reasoned that pervasive
cultural messages regarding women’s lack of competence in sci-
ence could lead faculty members to hold gender-biased attitudes
that might subtly affect their support for female (but not male)
science students. These generalized, subtly biased attitudes to-
ward women could impel faculty to judge equivalent students
differently as a function of their gender.
The present study sought to test for differences in faculty
perceptions and treatment of equally qualified men and women
pursuing careers in science and, if such a bias were discovered,
reveal its mechanisms and consequences within academic sci-
ence. We focused on hiring for a laboratory manager position as
the primary dependent variable of interest because it functions as
a professional launching pad for subsequent opportunities. As
secondary measures, which are related to hiring, we assessed: (i)
perceived student competence; (ii) salary offers, which reflect
the extent to which a student is valued for these competitive
positions; and (iii) the extent to which the student was viewed as
deserving of faculty mentoring.
Our hypotheses were that: Science faculty’s perceptions and
treatment of students would reveal a gender bias favoring male
students in perceptions of competence and hireability, salary
conferral, and willingness to mentor (hypothesis A); Faculty gen-
der would not influence this gender bias (hypothesis B); Hiring
These results support hypothesis A.
In support of hypothesis B, faculty gender did not affect bias
(Table 1). Tests of simple effects (all d < 0.33) indicated that
female faculty participants did not rate the female student as
more competent [t(62) = 0.06, P = 0.95] or hireable [t(62) = 0.41,
P = 0.69] than did male faculty. Female faculty also did not
offer more mentoring [t(62) = 0.29, P = 0.77] or a higher salary
[t(61) = 1.14, P = 0.26] to the female student than did their male
Fig. 1. Competence, hireability, and mentoring by student gender condition
(collapsed across faculty gender). All student gender differences are significant
(P < 0.001). Scales range from 1 to 7, with higher numbers reflecting a greater
extent of each variable. Error bars represent SEs. nmale student condition = 63,
nfemale student condition = 64.
2 of 6 | www.pnas.org/cgi/doi/10.1073/pnas.1211286109 Moss-Racusin et al.
• Male students were
ranked higher in
everything
• The only difference
between the male and
female students was the
names on CVs
Monday, 7 October 13
The lowest difficulty
setting there is
John Scalzi, http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-
male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/
• It’s really hard for straight white men to
understand the problem
• sadly it’s really easy for women to
• John Scalzi came up with a brilliant analogy
• Being a straight white male is the lowest
difficulty setting there is in the game of life
“You can lose playing on the lowest difficulty
setting.The lowest difficulty setting is still the
easiest setting to win on.The player who
plays on the “Gay Minority Female” setting?
Hardcore.”
Monday, 7 October 13
What can we do?
• We can’t change today the gender imbalance
• We can make CS a much nicer place for women
to be
• We can do three simple things
1. Don’t be a jerk to women in CS
2. Don’t use sexist language
3. Understand that it’s not you who decides if you
are doing 1 or 2.
Monday, 7 October 13
Don’t be a jerk
• This is really simple to understand
• Unfortunately being a jerk to women in CS
is really widespread
• (I mean in the world, not St Andrews)
• I’m not going to provide examples
• it would take too long
Monday, 7 October 13
Don’t use sexist
language
• I mean this in two ways
• Don’t use language that implies CS people are men
• leads to the Computer Scientist and the
Cleaner
• leads to females feeling excluded
• and subtle biases as in the PNAS paper
• Don’t engage in sexist “banter”
Monday, 7 October 13
The Hofstadter Analogy
• If you’re not sure if language is sexist...
• ... swap men and women for black and white
• If the result is obviously racist
• ... the original was probably sexist
• A St Andrews example...
• Was it ok that a male only club made the rules of golf, including
for women?
• Would it have been ok that a white only club made the rules of
golf, including the rules for black people?
• I learnt this from:
• “A person paper on the purity of language”
• Doug Hofstadter
• http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html
Monday, 7 October 13
You don’t get to
decide...
3. Understand that it’s not you who decides if you are doing 1 or 2.
• This is really hard to understand
• Maybe you think somebody shouldn’t be offended when they tell
you they are
• Tough! Guess what, they were offended!
• You only have two options
• “I’m sorry, but I deeply believe that X is true so I stand by
what I said”
• “I’m sorry, I’ll try harder not to say things like that in future”
• Never say “Hey, it’s only banter”
Monday, 7 October 13
It’s not “banter”
• "Banter" is apparently a free pass: I can insult you, but you're not
allowed to be insulted, because "it's only banter". I can be
obscene, but you can't be offended, because "it's only banter".
No. If you're a grown-up, you know that your offensiveness may
offend, and you either accept that or you apologise and don't do
it again. Saying "it's only banter" makes you not only an idiot, but
an idiot who can't take responsibility for his own jokes.
Tom Chivers,
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100141906/
if-you-like-banter-you-are-an-idiot/
Monday, 7 October 13
Allies
• We need male computer scientists to be
“Allies”
• Men who think it’s important that both
women and men are treated right in
Computer Science
• http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Allies
Monday, 7 October 13
Not just gender
• I’ve focussed on gender today
• But same could be said for disability, people
with mental health problems, race, sexual
orientation, age...
Monday, 7 October 13
Do not get me wrong...
If you are a male (straight white or otherwise), ...
I want you to have a fabulous time at St Andrews
I want you to get a first
I want you to have an amazing career in or out of computing
I just want the same for women and other groups at a disadvantage
And I want us all to work towards them not being at a disadvantage
Monday, 7 October 13

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The Computer Scientist and the Cleaner v3

  • 1. The Computer Scientist and the Cleaner Ian Gent University of St Andrews This is a DRAFT talk, version 3 For more context please visit: http://iangent.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/the-computer-scientist-and-cleaner.html Monday, 7 October 13
  • 2. ... or ... Monday, 7 October 13
  • 3. A short history of sexism in St Andrews Monday, 7 October 13
  • 4. ... or ... Monday, 7 October 13
  • 5. The most important problem for computing Monday, 7 October 13
  • 6. ... or ... Monday, 7 October 13
  • 7. If you’re not uncomfortable for the next few minutes I’m not doing my job Monday, 7 October 13
  • 8. What is this talk, really? A short talk about gender balance and sexism in computer science. Monday, 7 October 13
  • 9. What is this talk, really? These are my personal opinions, not based on School or University policy Not a part of CS1002 in any sense, just something I think you should be exposed to Monday, 7 October 13
  • 10. The Computer Scientist and the Cleaner • Let me tell you a story. “The computer scientist and the cleaner had a long and happy marriage. One of their few arguments was when she forgot their wedding anniversary. But their marriage was strong and he forgave her.” Monday, 7 October 13
  • 11. The Computer Scientist and the Cleaner “One of their few arguments was when she forgot their wedding anniversary.” • Let me ask you a question. • Who forgot the anniversary? • Was it the computer scientist or the cleaner? Monday, 7 October 13
  • 12. The Computer Scientist and the Cleaner “One of their few arguments was when she forgot their wedding anniversary.” • Let me ask Google a question. • Who forgot the anniversary? • Was it the computer scientist or the cleaner? Monday, 7 October 13
  • 13. C Unmoderated image search for “Computer Scientist” Monday, 7 October 13
  • 14. Unmoderated image search for “Cleaner” Monday, 7 October 13
  • 15. Who forgot the anniversary? “The computer scientist and the cleaner had a long and happy marriage. One of their few arguments was when she forgot their wedding anniversary. But their marriage was strong and he forgave her.” • Look inside your brain • Did you think the woman was the cleaner? Monday, 7 October 13
  • 16. A short history of sexism in St Andrews • The University is 600 years old, yet ... • Its first female professor was a computer scientist! • Prof Ursula Martin MBE, now at QMUL • Yes, a 600 year old University’s first female professor hasn’t retired yet! • For 579 years we didn’t have a female Prof • Until 2004, the Rules of Golf for women were made by a male only club in St Andrews • For 595 years we didn’t have a female Principal • Prof Louise Richardson Monday, 7 October 13
  • 19. Gender Balance CS Senior Lecturers & Readers Monday, 7 October 13
  • 21. Let’s be clear... • The University of St Andrews does not have sexist hiring policies • We have clear non-sexist hiring policies • http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/hr/edi/inclusiverec/ • The gender balance in St Andrews CS • reflects general imbalance in the discipline • and it’s a big problem Monday, 7 October 13
  • 22. The most important problem for computing Monday, 7 October 13
  • 23. Why the most important problem? Why should we have more women in CS? I only know of two good reasons, but they are overpoweringly good. • It’s right • Computer Science would be better Monday, 7 October 13
  • 24. But is it a problem now? • In the past this was a problem • And it still is • An almost random example • Science faculty’s subtle gender biases favor male students • Proceedings National Academy of Science, USA, 2012 • http://www.pnas.org/content/early/ 2012/09/14/1211286109 • The change from the past is that gender biases are now subtle In addition to determining whether faculty expressed a bias against female students, we also sought to identify the processes contributing to this bias. To do so, we investigated whether faculty members’ perceptions of student competence would help to explain why they would be less likely to hire a female (relative to an identical male) student for a laboratory manager position. Additionally, we examined the role of faculty members’ preex- isting subtle bias against women. We reasoned that pervasive cultural messages regarding women’s lack of competence in sci- ence could lead faculty members to hold gender-biased attitudes that might subtly affect their support for female (but not male) science students. These generalized, subtly biased attitudes to- ward women could impel faculty to judge equivalent students differently as a function of their gender. The present study sought to test for differences in faculty perceptions and treatment of equally qualified men and women pursuing careers in science and, if such a bias were discovered, reveal its mechanisms and consequences within academic sci- ence. We focused on hiring for a laboratory manager position as the primary dependent variable of interest because it functions as a professional launching pad for subsequent opportunities. As secondary measures, which are related to hiring, we assessed: (i) perceived student competence; (ii) salary offers, which reflect the extent to which a student is valued for these competitive positions; and (iii) the extent to which the student was viewed as deserving of faculty mentoring. Our hypotheses were that: Science faculty’s perceptions and treatment of students would reveal a gender bias favoring male students in perceptions of competence and hireability, salary conferral, and willingness to mentor (hypothesis A); Faculty gen- der would not influence this gender bias (hypothesis B); Hiring These results support hypothesis A. In support of hypothesis B, faculty gender did not affect bias (Table 1). Tests of simple effects (all d < 0.33) indicated that female faculty participants did not rate the female student as more competent [t(62) = 0.06, P = 0.95] or hireable [t(62) = 0.41, P = 0.69] than did male faculty. Female faculty also did not offer more mentoring [t(62) = 0.29, P = 0.77] or a higher salary [t(61) = 1.14, P = 0.26] to the female student than did their male Fig. 1. Competence, hireability, and mentoring by student gender condition (collapsed across faculty gender). All student gender differences are significant (P < 0.001). Scales range from 1 to 7, with higher numbers reflecting a greater extent of each variable. Error bars represent SEs. nmale student condition = 63, nfemale student condition = 64. 2 of 6 | www.pnas.org/cgi/doi/10.1073/pnas.1211286109 Moss-Racusin et al. • Male students were ranked higher in everything • The only difference between the male and female students was the names on CVs Monday, 7 October 13
  • 25. The lowest difficulty setting there is John Scalzi, http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white- male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/ • It’s really hard for straight white men to understand the problem • sadly it’s really easy for women to • John Scalzi came up with a brilliant analogy • Being a straight white male is the lowest difficulty setting there is in the game of life “You can lose playing on the lowest difficulty setting.The lowest difficulty setting is still the easiest setting to win on.The player who plays on the “Gay Minority Female” setting? Hardcore.” Monday, 7 October 13
  • 26. What can we do? • We can’t change today the gender imbalance • We can make CS a much nicer place for women to be • We can do three simple things 1. Don’t be a jerk to women in CS 2. Don’t use sexist language 3. Understand that it’s not you who decides if you are doing 1 or 2. Monday, 7 October 13
  • 27. Don’t be a jerk • This is really simple to understand • Unfortunately being a jerk to women in CS is really widespread • (I mean in the world, not St Andrews) • I’m not going to provide examples • it would take too long Monday, 7 October 13
  • 28. Don’t use sexist language • I mean this in two ways • Don’t use language that implies CS people are men • leads to the Computer Scientist and the Cleaner • leads to females feeling excluded • and subtle biases as in the PNAS paper • Don’t engage in sexist “banter” Monday, 7 October 13
  • 29. The Hofstadter Analogy • If you’re not sure if language is sexist... • ... swap men and women for black and white • If the result is obviously racist • ... the original was probably sexist • A St Andrews example... • Was it ok that a male only club made the rules of golf, including for women? • Would it have been ok that a white only club made the rules of golf, including the rules for black people? • I learnt this from: • “A person paper on the purity of language” • Doug Hofstadter • http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html Monday, 7 October 13
  • 30. You don’t get to decide... 3. Understand that it’s not you who decides if you are doing 1 or 2. • This is really hard to understand • Maybe you think somebody shouldn’t be offended when they tell you they are • Tough! Guess what, they were offended! • You only have two options • “I’m sorry, but I deeply believe that X is true so I stand by what I said” • “I’m sorry, I’ll try harder not to say things like that in future” • Never say “Hey, it’s only banter” Monday, 7 October 13
  • 31. It’s not “banter” • "Banter" is apparently a free pass: I can insult you, but you're not allowed to be insulted, because "it's only banter". I can be obscene, but you can't be offended, because "it's only banter". No. If you're a grown-up, you know that your offensiveness may offend, and you either accept that or you apologise and don't do it again. Saying "it's only banter" makes you not only an idiot, but an idiot who can't take responsibility for his own jokes. Tom Chivers, http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100141906/ if-you-like-banter-you-are-an-idiot/ Monday, 7 October 13
  • 32. Allies • We need male computer scientists to be “Allies” • Men who think it’s important that both women and men are treated right in Computer Science • http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Allies Monday, 7 October 13
  • 33. Not just gender • I’ve focussed on gender today • But same could be said for disability, people with mental health problems, race, sexual orientation, age... Monday, 7 October 13
  • 34. Do not get me wrong... If you are a male (straight white or otherwise), ... I want you to have a fabulous time at St Andrews I want you to get a first I want you to have an amazing career in or out of computing I just want the same for women and other groups at a disadvantage And I want us all to work towards them not being at a disadvantage Monday, 7 October 13