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Unnatural disaster: What to do when your hotel
doesn’t have room
July 14, 2012




                                                                             The deadly storms that left
large swaths of the East Coast without power just before the Fourth of July holiday provided an
uncomfortable lesson to hotel guests like Ken White: Always call to confirm your reservation — especially
when the place you’re visiting is reeling from a natural disaster.

White lives in Charlottesville, Va., an area that was hit hard by the
hurricane-force winds. Many residents were struggling to stay cool
in record-breaking heat, and checking into an air-conditioned hotel
nearby was a popular solution.

Maybe a little too popular.

“I made reservations at the Hilton Garden Inn for Sunday and
Monday night,” says White, a college marketing professor. “My
credit card was charged, and I was given a confirmation number
by Expedia.”

But when he tried to pick up his room key on Sunday, a hotel
representative said that White didn’t have a reservation and turned
him away. The Hilton, like all the other hotels in the area, was
fully booked.

Getting to the bottom of White’s reservation problem was only slightly easier than finding a hotel room in
Charlottesville after a power outage, it turns out. For starters, White sent me a complaint and then vanished.
Repeated phone calls and e-mails to him went unanswered, which can happen during a popular vacation
week — or when portions of Charlottesville remain without electricity for more than a week.

An Expedia spokeswoman said that the online travel agency wouldn’t comment on White’s case unless I
provided a confirmation number. I contacted Hilton for a statement, and it, too, refused to say anything at
the corporate level, deferring instead to the hotel White had tried to stay in, which it said is a franchise
property.

Finally, I reached Eric Pfister, the general manager at the Hilton Garden Inn in Charlottesville. He
confirmed the details of White’s story. Pfister said that on Saturday, June 30, in the wake of the massive
thunderstorms, his 124-room hotel quickly sold out.

                                           The Hilton Garden Inn connects to Expedia through an electronic
                                           reservations system, and it also receives faxes from the online
                                           travel agency as a backup. Hilton’s system was showing the
                                           property as fully booked for Sunday and Monday night, but for
                                           some reason, Expedia didn’t get the message. It continued to
                                           confirm reservations and send backup faxes, which were piling up
fast.

                                                      “It was a bad situation,” Pfister says.

                                                      Hilton tried to contact Expedia, asking it to stop accepting new
                                                      reservations. Eventually it did, but the hotel had to turn away nine
                                                      guests the next day, including White.

                                         It’s unclear whether this was an isolated problem or whether other
                                         Hilton properties working with Expedia were affected by the
                                         reservations system glitch. With this new information from Hilton,
I again asked Expedia whether it could help me understand how these surplus reservations happened. It
declined to comment.

When a hotel can’t accommodate a guest because it’s overbooked, the standard industry practice is to send
that person to a comparable hotel and to pay for the first night’s reservation. That would have happened to
White and the other displaced customers, except that there were no available rooms in the region.

In such cases, a hotel’s options are limited, says Stephen Barth, a professor of hospitality law at the
University of Houston and founder of the Web site HospitalityLawyer.com. A property can still
accommodate a guest by setting up a rollaway bed in the lobby, which sometimes happens during a natural
disaster. It can also rent rooms in eight-hour shifts, giving guests a chance to freshen up, or it can allow
them to use the showers at the pool.

“Overbookings like this tend to happen at large events, like the Super Bowl or Formula 1,” Barth says.
“They’re usually caused by guests overstaying their reservations, but they can also happen after a natural
disaster, like a hurricane on an island with a limited number of hotel rooms.”

The best way to avoid being turned away, he says, is to take a couple of preventive measures. White could
have sidestepped the situation by booking directly through the Hilton Web site or by calling its reservations
number. (White’s confirmation contained an Expedia confirmation but didn’t have a corresponding
confirmation from Hilton, according to Pfister.)

Also, Barth says, “always contact the hotel and confirm the reservation.” That’s particularly important when
you’re booking through a third party, such as an online travel agency. When your stay falls during a major
event — a college homecoming, a large convention or even a big storm, all of which can affect hotel
occupancy rates — double-checking is a must.

Had White called the Hilton Garden Inn, he would have known that he didn’t have a room, and he could
have phoned Expedia to re-book him elsewhere or made other plans.

Making matters worse, the hotel doesn’t even know which customers were turned away. Pfister says that
Expedia didn’t give it the guests’ names, so he’s unable to contact them to apologize and make it right.
Which is exactly what he says he wants to do.

“We feel bad,” he says. “We don’t like to turn guests away.”

Pfister says he hopes that White and the others who didn’t have a place to sleep on Sunday night will
contact him directly. He promises that he’ll do whatever he can to make it up to them.

 Who's responsible for Ken White's failed hotel stay?
    The Hilton Garden Inn


    Expedia

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          lost_in_travel


         Tough situation - but it sounds like the Hilton Garden Inn wants to apologize
         for a situation they really did not create. At least Ken White had a home to
         go back to - albeit with no electricity.

         I hope only nine people respond to Pfister, it would really say something
         about scam artists if many more reply.

         By the way, what happened to the Expedia credit card charge - was it
         refunded by Expedia?

         1 day ago 1 Like                                                       Like Reply


                     Christopher Elliott, Consumer advocate and journalist.


                 Expedia refuses to comment. I tried repeatedly to get it to talk. I'm a
                 little disappointed by its refusal to say anything about this issue.

                 1 day ago in reply to lost_in_travel 3 Likes                   Like Reply


                               LadyLightTravel


                             I would say that the refusal to talk is a statement unto itself,
                             don't you think? A reputable TA would at least issue a
                             statement saying "we're investigating."

                             1 day ago in reply to Christopher Elliott          Like Reply
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          rgoltsch


         Expedia has always tried to make us think that they are a travel agency.
         Situations like this prove that they are not. A real travel agency would have
         been there with the client making things right and finding them something,
         somewhere to sleep.Sites like Expedia want to charge customers money for a
         service...and when things go wrong, don't back up that service promise with
         real assistance.

         Over and over again we hear from writers such as Chris telling us to confirm
         our reservation with the actual provider....doing the legwork a travel agent
         would do for us.

         And for the record, I am an experienced business traveler......not a travel agent

         1 day ago 6 Likes                                                      Like Reply
TonyA_says


        Expedia, Travelocity and other OTA sites are D-I-Y (do it yourself)
        travel sites; while a professional travel agent would do the legwork for
        you (so they may charge a fee).

        1 day ago in reply to rgoltsch                               Like Reply


 Susan Fox


I'm done using any of those third party sites and do my bookings now directly
with the airline, hotels and car rental agencies. Expedia's non-response in this
case just confirms the wisdom of doing so.

1 day ago 3 Likes                                                    Like Reply


 Wayne Dayton


This is the 110th reason why nobody should book with Expedia. Their refusal
to comment says all we need to know about their incompetence, negligence,
corporate greed, and unethical business culture. Dara Khosrowshahi, shame
on you. You exemplify the sanctimonius, customer-be-damned attitude of your
mentor, Bill Gates. Why hasn't he responded, perhaps crying because the way
TD Canada Trust has been the closing the accounts of his compatriots? Now
you know how being treated like crap is like, Dara, you're getting a taste of
your own medicine. Hilton is standing up to the plate on this one, Expedia and
the Gates New World Order needs to be taught the sternest of marketplace
lessons...a radical shift in booking patterns leading to Chapter 11.

1 day ago 4 Likes                                                    Like Reply


 Michael__K


It's remarkable to me that in 2012 OTA's are sending hotels reservations by
paper faxes. If multiple OTA's are faxing these reservations in parallel, what
mechanism is there to prevent overbookings?

I've had similar experiences a few times checking in with a Priceline
reservation and being told that the hotel had no record of it. In each case,
Priceline told me the reservation was faxed to the hotel. I always got a room
eventually. Not always at the original hotel, but I did get the first night free
whenever I was walked. It was nonetheless an unwelcome 30 to 90 minute
hassle (between time spent on hold with Priceline and time spent waiting for
Priceline and the hotel to get on the same page).

1 day ago                                                            Like Reply


            Christopher Elliott, Consumer advocate and journalist.


        I was shocked by the paper fax detail, too.

        1 day ago in reply to Michael__K 1 Like                      Like Reply


                    bodega3


                  Inventory on OTA's IS NOT live. Between the time they sell
                  the rate, in a situation like a disaster where local are looking
                  for accommodation, the lax in time can affect your
                  confirmation. Just like when you book your air and get a
                  message back.

                  I know for fact, that in disaster situations, most hotels give
                  huge discounts to locals. Why the heck a local wouldn't call
                  the hotel directly raises huge questions for me.

                  1 day ago in reply to Christopher Elliott          Like Reply
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Carver Clark Farrow II


What question does it raise?

23 hours ago in reply to bodega3           Like Reply



          bodega3


        The main one is why would he go to a OTA
        for a local hotel before calling the hotel during
        a disaster situation? Hurricane winds knock
        power out, messages don't get through. Hotels
        offer discounted rates at time like these, but
        not online as you need to be a local to get
        them. Online and calling the toll free number
        doesn't get the hotel the confirmation number
        right away. They don't see the reservation,
        they sell out the rooms due to front desk
        demands.

        19 hours ago                       Like Reply
        in reply to Carver Clark
        Farrow II



                  Carver Clark Farrow II


                 Why would he know any of that?

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 Michael__K


Why does a hotel enter into an agreement that allows
an OTA to fax it reservation after reservation without
confirmation or controls to ensure availability?

Especially in the case of Priceline, where customers
placing opaque bids often have to check back later for
the outcome. If an automated channel exists for
verifying live inventory, then I see no reason why this
step wouldn't be taken during that wait.

I've had several experiences which demonstrate that
this problem is not limited to disaster situations.

If as TonyA_says suggests, the OTA acquires it's
own dedicated inventory from the hotel, then it seems
the hotel carries some responsibility. If the hotel
decides to revoke the OTA's dedicated inventory and
re-assign it to others -- without first reaching the OTA
and ensuring that this dedicated inventory is taken
offline from the OTA's systems -- then more snafus
like the OP's are a predictable outcome.

10 hours ago in reply to bodega3           Like Reply



          TonyA_says


        michael, it depends on the terms of the
        agreement. We do not know what that
        property signed with Expedia. However, the
        manager said they told Expedia to stop
        booking. So something is wrong with
        Expedia's process. Too asynchronous.
9 hours ago                       Like Reply
                                  in reply to Michael__K


  MarkKelling


Yet another reason to book directly instead of through some internet
consolidator.

If I was attempting to get a hotel room or rental car in an area that was in the
middle of a natural disaster, I sure would have called them directly to verify
that not only they got my request but that they would also be able to fill my
request. Every time there is a hurricane threat to Houston (where I travel to a
lot) everyone rents a car and leaves town (or the rental companies move their
vehicles to a safer location) and it is a couple weeks before the rental car
inventory gets back to normal. This means there are not always cars for those
wanting them. Same with hotel rooms (well, the hotels aren't moving the
rooms elsewhere, but they are occupied by people who can't get back home).

I can't believe that reservations are still faxed to hotels that are part of a major
chain or part of any online reservation system. I thought everyone would book
electronically these days removing the need for any papers to change hands.
 It is easy to see how a hotel could get overbooked in this situation. They
might only have a dozen rooms available, but receive 30 - 40 faxed
reservation requests from agencies resulting in a lot of disappointed arriving
guests especially when the booking agent never lets them know no actual
confirmation from the property was provided.

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          y_p_w


        I don't know about paper FAXes. Those are rather antiquated. A lot
        of companies are moving to fully electronic imaging sent via FAX.
        My computers have FAX capabilities to send and electronic document
        via FAX protocol. No paper is actually scanned, and even if printed
        after receipt the copy is nice and sharp without those funky aliasing
        artifacts from scanning a real piece of paper. Most large corporate
        FAX systems are dumped into data storage rather than paper. They
        don't have to worry about running out of paper and the electronic
        storage makes for a very good archive.

        I do remember arriving once at a hotel that I got via Priceline. Their
        computer systems were malfunctioning and they couldn't bring
        anything up. However, I saw that they had a paper file, and the desk
        clerk said that they updated it with individual printouts for open
        reservations every hour. I think they also checked for cancelled
        reservations and marked those in the file too. He pulled out my
        reservation file and had me sign it directly. I think that's normally
        what they do.

        I could imagine a combination of electronic bookings that aren't being
        properly transmitted due to down systems, in combination with walk-
        up customers could make things interesting if it gets overbooked.

        1 day ago in reply to MarkKelling 1 Like                    Like Reply


                   MarkKelling


                 When I said "papers" I meant the documents that were faxed
                 whether they were physical pages or the electronic form. And
                 yes, most faxes these days are dumped into electronic storage
                 so there is no actual paper involved.

                 Still, someone on the receiving end has to know to look for
                 those faxes and enter them into their reservation system which
                 is still a manual process even if all it takes is a couple clicks
                 of the computer mouse.

                 Any system that is not integrated, automatic, and fully
electronic requiring a person to do something within the
                  process flow is open to failure.

                  1 day ago in reply to y_p_w                        Like Reply


 MarkieA


Question about a comment you made, Chris. You said that, sometimes during
natural disasters, hotels will book rooms for 8 hours at a time. I'm curious, in
your experience, do they charge 1/3 of the daily rate when they do this? Or do
they tend to take advantage of the situation and charge the full daily rate - or
more?

1 day ago                                                            Like Reply


            Christopher Elliott, Consumer advocate and journalist.


        I didn't get into that in the story. From my personal experience, the
        room rate would be adjusted based on the length of your stay. I once
        checked into a hotel at 2 a.m. after a long flight and checked out the
        next morning at 8 a.m., and was charged a half-day rate.

        1 day ago in reply to MarkieA 1 Like                         Like Reply


 Raven_Altosk


So did Scampedia give him his money back?

I'm confused...the article says his card was charged...but...what happened to
that money?

Just another reason to avoid third party sites...especially when they refuse to
answer questions about their issues. Doesn't give the consumers a warm and
fuzzy feeling.

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            TonyA_says


         LOL, Scampedia !!!

        1 day ago in reply to Raven_Altosk 1 Like                    Like Reply


            TonyA_says


        Seriously though ... Re: “My credit card was charged, and I was given
        a confirmation number by Expedia.”

        This is what makes this smell a bit like a fraud. If some takes my
        money, I expect a room.

        1 day ago in reply to Raven_Altosk 1 Like                    Like Reply


                    Carver Clark Farrow II


                   Doesn't sound like fraud to me, more likely just incompetence
                  stemming from a antiquated system, i.e. paper faxes

                  23 hours ago in reply to TonyA_says                Like Reply


            Christopher Elliott, Consumer advocate and journalist.


        Expedia won't say, and I haven't been able to reach the guest. I've left
        numerous voice mails and sent him several emails. I think he's either
        on vacation or still without power.

        1 day ago in reply to Raven_Altosk                           Like Reply
AAmerican1


Another example IMO why it is better to deal with either the hotel website or
directly with the property than using third party consolidators.

1 day ago 1 Like                                                   Like Reply


          andrelot


        Dealing with the hotel website? Probably. Dealing by phone? No way.
        Phone reservations are the worst possible, there are no confirmation of
        receipt whatsoever.

        1 day ago in reply to AAmerican1                           Like Reply


                  y_p_w


                All depends. I remember booking a room while on the road
                via the Holiday hotel 800 number. The operator asked for my
                email address so I could receive confirmation if I got to a
                place with internet access and for my permanent records. To
                this day I still have the email with confirmation number and
                rate.

                It was odd though. The operator offered me a voucher for $20
                dining credit for an additional $8, and I took it. It seemed to
                make sense to me. When I arrived, the desk clerk said the deal
                wasn't good, but to make it up to me I just got the voucher for
                free. Personally I thought that just sticking to the deal would
                have made for sense for the hotel, but I just rolled with it.

                1 day ago in reply to andrelot 1 Like              Like Reply


                  AAmerican1


                Really?

                I have email confirmations from 3 hotels I made reservations
                with for this month & August. All were made direct with hotel
                property by phone.

                1 day ago in reply to andrelot 1 Like              Like Reply


  Jeff Shelby


Had a very similar situation occur last summer in Austin with Hotels.com. Got
to the property I'd booked and they were full, they'd tried to contact
Hotels.com to let them know (two other families were in same situation), etc.

The difference was that Hotels.com was fabulous. Took about fifteen minutes
on the phone, but they were incredibly apologetic, moved us about five
minutes away to another hotel, which was an upgrade from original hotel, and
sent me a $100 voucher that was good for a year. A customer service rep also
followed up about two days later to again apologize and make sure that
everything had worked out.

I'm not a huge fan of third party booking sites - I'd used it on a lark for that
trip - but I was impressed by their response to the problem. It's incredibly
frustrating to see Expedia run and hide.

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          TonyA_says


        There is NO DIFFERENCE. Hotels.com is an Expedia brand and
        owned company. :-)

        1 day ago in reply to Jeff Shelby 2 Likes                  Like Reply
Carver Clark Farrow II


                 Surprising, companies within the same hotel brand can be
                very different. I mean Marriott owns/manages both the Ritz-
                Carlton and the Fairfield Hotels

                23 hours ago in reply to TonyA_says                Like Reply


  jerryatric


Lives in the same city yet goes through Expedia. How much did he save?
Probably only a couple of $ - if that. AGAIN I always go direct, & check out
online companies as well. In most cases the savings difference is not worth the
hassle & I end up booking direct. I get the name of the person, confirmation
number & almost have never had a problem. I do the same with car rentals &
airlines. And if there is a problem explaining it to the front desk in a precise,
friendly manner gets it cleared up in a hurry
Doing business with any of these online agencies is not worth it.

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          bodega3


        He probably didn't save. Local hotels often give huge discounts to
        locals during disaster situations. People who rely on the internet are
        lemmings.

        1 day ago in reply to jerryatric                           Like Reply


          TonyA_says


        Lives in the same city yet goes through Expedia - EXACTLY !!!
        Charlottesville ain't that big. It is a pretty university [of Virginia]
        town.
        He must have gone for the cheaper PRE-PAID non-refundable rate
        offered by Expedia.

        1 day ago in reply to jerryatric 1 Like                    Like Reply


                  Carver Clark Farrow II


                 Help me out. I've never used Expedia. What's the difference
                between a local using Expedia and a non-local?

                23 hours ago in reply to TonyA_says                Like Reply


                           TonyA_says


                         he could have made a local call or swing by the hotel.
                         that is a small town.

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                                   Carver Clark Farrow II


                                  But why would he? If the computer system
                                 accepts the reservation what would put him on
                                 notice that it wasn't a done deal? Why drive
                                 across town when you believe, albeit
                                 erroneously, that you have a confirmation.

                                 1 hour ago                        Like Reply
                                 in reply to TonyA_says


                           bodega3
Expedia will not have a local rate listed. Many hotels
                              give locals discounts, but you have to contact the hotel
                              directly to get it and show an ID at time of checkin.

                              19 hours ago                             Like Reply
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        TonyA_says


       Christopher Elliott
      Perhaps there is something more to this story and it might be important to
      readers of your site.
      The Hilton Garden Inn at Charlottesville,VA is an Expedia Special Rate (ESR)
      property . That means the hotel participates in Expedia's Net Rate program,
      where it gives Expedia a deeply discounted net price (a big percentage off the
      Best Available Rate) and then Expedia marks it up when it sells to the public.
      You can see from the attached pic that Expedia sells a discounted rate for this
      hotel, however that rate is prepaid.

      So now the $64K question is what about room inventory allocation ???
      I suppose that as part of the contract with Expedia, the hotel would allocate a
      certain amount of rooms for Expedia.

      Normally room reservations are sent to the hotel via a GDS. The hotel's
      reservation system can easily display room availability and (automatically)
      confirm reservations. Expedia also offers an alternative way for hotels to hook
      up with them using Expedia Quick Connect. In their Best Practices section,
      they state:

             If Expedia QuickConnect® functionality is down, bookings will
             revert to fax or email and availability and rates can be manually
             updated on the Extranet until the issue is corrected.

      But what happens when there is a power [or network] blackout and the hotel's
      reservation system is down? Can Expedia keep on selling prepaid rooms
      assuming they have a "guaranteed" room allocation from the hotel? Assuming
      Expedia keeps on sending faxes, isn't that one-way communication and still
      requires some acknowledgment from the hotel that rooms are still available? If
      that is the case, then what exactly are customers pre-paying Expedia for, if
      they can't be sure they have a room?

      Did Expedia return the OP's money?




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  • 1. Home Blog About Company contacts Join the cause Connect Free stuff Columns Unnatural disaster: What to do when your hotel doesn’t have room July 14, 2012 The deadly storms that left large swaths of the East Coast without power just before the Fourth of July holiday provided an uncomfortable lesson to hotel guests like Ken White: Always call to confirm your reservation — especially when the place you’re visiting is reeling from a natural disaster. White lives in Charlottesville, Va., an area that was hit hard by the hurricane-force winds. Many residents were struggling to stay cool in record-breaking heat, and checking into an air-conditioned hotel nearby was a popular solution. Maybe a little too popular. “I made reservations at the Hilton Garden Inn for Sunday and Monday night,” says White, a college marketing professor. “My credit card was charged, and I was given a confirmation number by Expedia.” But when he tried to pick up his room key on Sunday, a hotel representative said that White didn’t have a reservation and turned him away. The Hilton, like all the other hotels in the area, was fully booked. Getting to the bottom of White’s reservation problem was only slightly easier than finding a hotel room in Charlottesville after a power outage, it turns out. For starters, White sent me a complaint and then vanished. Repeated phone calls and e-mails to him went unanswered, which can happen during a popular vacation week — or when portions of Charlottesville remain without electricity for more than a week. An Expedia spokeswoman said that the online travel agency wouldn’t comment on White’s case unless I provided a confirmation number. I contacted Hilton for a statement, and it, too, refused to say anything at the corporate level, deferring instead to the hotel White had tried to stay in, which it said is a franchise property. Finally, I reached Eric Pfister, the general manager at the Hilton Garden Inn in Charlottesville. He confirmed the details of White’s story. Pfister said that on Saturday, June 30, in the wake of the massive thunderstorms, his 124-room hotel quickly sold out. The Hilton Garden Inn connects to Expedia through an electronic reservations system, and it also receives faxes from the online travel agency as a backup. Hilton’s system was showing the property as fully booked for Sunday and Monday night, but for some reason, Expedia didn’t get the message. It continued to confirm reservations and send backup faxes, which were piling up
  • 2. fast. “It was a bad situation,” Pfister says. Hilton tried to contact Expedia, asking it to stop accepting new reservations. Eventually it did, but the hotel had to turn away nine guests the next day, including White. It’s unclear whether this was an isolated problem or whether other Hilton properties working with Expedia were affected by the reservations system glitch. With this new information from Hilton, I again asked Expedia whether it could help me understand how these surplus reservations happened. It declined to comment. When a hotel can’t accommodate a guest because it’s overbooked, the standard industry practice is to send that person to a comparable hotel and to pay for the first night’s reservation. That would have happened to White and the other displaced customers, except that there were no available rooms in the region. In such cases, a hotel’s options are limited, says Stephen Barth, a professor of hospitality law at the University of Houston and founder of the Web site HospitalityLawyer.com. A property can still accommodate a guest by setting up a rollaway bed in the lobby, which sometimes happens during a natural disaster. It can also rent rooms in eight-hour shifts, giving guests a chance to freshen up, or it can allow them to use the showers at the pool. “Overbookings like this tend to happen at large events, like the Super Bowl or Formula 1,” Barth says. “They’re usually caused by guests overstaying their reservations, but they can also happen after a natural disaster, like a hurricane on an island with a limited number of hotel rooms.” The best way to avoid being turned away, he says, is to take a couple of preventive measures. White could have sidestepped the situation by booking directly through the Hilton Web site or by calling its reservations number. (White’s confirmation contained an Expedia confirmation but didn’t have a corresponding confirmation from Hilton, according to Pfister.) Also, Barth says, “always contact the hotel and confirm the reservation.” That’s particularly important when you’re booking through a third party, such as an online travel agency. When your stay falls during a major event — a college homecoming, a large convention or even a big storm, all of which can affect hotel occupancy rates — double-checking is a must. Had White called the Hilton Garden Inn, he would have known that he didn’t have a room, and he could have phoned Expedia to re-book him elsewhere or made other plans. Making matters worse, the hotel doesn’t even know which customers were turned away. Pfister says that Expedia didn’t give it the guests’ names, so he’s unable to contact them to apologize and make it right. Which is exactly what he says he wants to do. “We feel bad,” he says. “We don’t like to turn guests away.” Pfister says he hopes that White and the others who didn’t have a place to sleep on Sunday night will contact him directly. He promises that he’ll do whatever he can to make it up to them. Who's responsible for Ken White's failed hotel stay? The Hilton Garden Inn Expedia Vote Results » Like Zoomerang® Online Polls Related stories A stolen West Point Walking down: 5 What's the First 5 Ways to Spot a class ring, and all I tips for avoiding the Thing You Do Kid-Friendly Hotel get from my hotel is latest hotel scam When You Check CNTraveler an excuse? into a Hotel Room? CNTraveler
  • 3. CNTraveler Ads by Google Survival Kit Share: Tweet 14 2 Tagged as: DISASTER, EXPEDIA, HILTON, HOTEL, OVERBOOKING, STORM Like Add New Comment Login Showing 40 of 46 comments Sort by oldest first lost_in_travel Tough situation - but it sounds like the Hilton Garden Inn wants to apologize for a situation they really did not create. At least Ken White had a home to go back to - albeit with no electricity. I hope only nine people respond to Pfister, it would really say something about scam artists if many more reply. By the way, what happened to the Expedia credit card charge - was it refunded by Expedia? 1 day ago 1 Like Like Reply Christopher Elliott, Consumer advocate and journalist. Expedia refuses to comment. I tried repeatedly to get it to talk. I'm a little disappointed by its refusal to say anything about this issue. 1 day ago in reply to lost_in_travel 3 Likes Like Reply LadyLightTravel I would say that the refusal to talk is a statement unto itself, don't you think? A reputable TA would at least issue a statement saying "we're investigating." 1 day ago in reply to Christopher Elliott Like Reply 2 Likes rgoltsch Expedia has always tried to make us think that they are a travel agency. Situations like this prove that they are not. A real travel agency would have been there with the client making things right and finding them something, somewhere to sleep.Sites like Expedia want to charge customers money for a service...and when things go wrong, don't back up that service promise with real assistance. Over and over again we hear from writers such as Chris telling us to confirm our reservation with the actual provider....doing the legwork a travel agent would do for us. And for the record, I am an experienced business traveler......not a travel agent 1 day ago 6 Likes Like Reply
  • 4. TonyA_says Expedia, Travelocity and other OTA sites are D-I-Y (do it yourself) travel sites; while a professional travel agent would do the legwork for you (so they may charge a fee). 1 day ago in reply to rgoltsch Like Reply Susan Fox I'm done using any of those third party sites and do my bookings now directly with the airline, hotels and car rental agencies. Expedia's non-response in this case just confirms the wisdom of doing so. 1 day ago 3 Likes Like Reply Wayne Dayton This is the 110th reason why nobody should book with Expedia. Their refusal to comment says all we need to know about their incompetence, negligence, corporate greed, and unethical business culture. Dara Khosrowshahi, shame on you. You exemplify the sanctimonius, customer-be-damned attitude of your mentor, Bill Gates. Why hasn't he responded, perhaps crying because the way TD Canada Trust has been the closing the accounts of his compatriots? Now you know how being treated like crap is like, Dara, you're getting a taste of your own medicine. Hilton is standing up to the plate on this one, Expedia and the Gates New World Order needs to be taught the sternest of marketplace lessons...a radical shift in booking patterns leading to Chapter 11. 1 day ago 4 Likes Like Reply Michael__K It's remarkable to me that in 2012 OTA's are sending hotels reservations by paper faxes. If multiple OTA's are faxing these reservations in parallel, what mechanism is there to prevent overbookings? I've had similar experiences a few times checking in with a Priceline reservation and being told that the hotel had no record of it. In each case, Priceline told me the reservation was faxed to the hotel. I always got a room eventually. Not always at the original hotel, but I did get the first night free whenever I was walked. It was nonetheless an unwelcome 30 to 90 minute hassle (between time spent on hold with Priceline and time spent waiting for Priceline and the hotel to get on the same page). 1 day ago Like Reply Christopher Elliott, Consumer advocate and journalist. I was shocked by the paper fax detail, too. 1 day ago in reply to Michael__K 1 Like Like Reply bodega3 Inventory on OTA's IS NOT live. Between the time they sell the rate, in a situation like a disaster where local are looking for accommodation, the lax in time can affect your confirmation. Just like when you book your air and get a message back. I know for fact, that in disaster situations, most hotels give huge discounts to locals. Why the heck a local wouldn't call the hotel directly raises huge questions for me. 1 day ago in reply to Christopher Elliott Like Reply 2 Likes
  • 5. Carver Clark Farrow II What question does it raise? 23 hours ago in reply to bodega3 Like Reply bodega3 The main one is why would he go to a OTA for a local hotel before calling the hotel during a disaster situation? Hurricane winds knock power out, messages don't get through. Hotels offer discounted rates at time like these, but not online as you need to be a local to get them. Online and calling the toll free number doesn't get the hotel the confirmation number right away. They don't see the reservation, they sell out the rooms due to front desk demands. 19 hours ago Like Reply in reply to Carver Clark Farrow II Carver Clark Farrow II Why would he know any of that? 1 hour ago Like Reply in reply to bodega3 Michael__K Why does a hotel enter into an agreement that allows an OTA to fax it reservation after reservation without confirmation or controls to ensure availability? Especially in the case of Priceline, where customers placing opaque bids often have to check back later for the outcome. If an automated channel exists for verifying live inventory, then I see no reason why this step wouldn't be taken during that wait. I've had several experiences which demonstrate that this problem is not limited to disaster situations. If as TonyA_says suggests, the OTA acquires it's own dedicated inventory from the hotel, then it seems the hotel carries some responsibility. If the hotel decides to revoke the OTA's dedicated inventory and re-assign it to others -- without first reaching the OTA and ensuring that this dedicated inventory is taken offline from the OTA's systems -- then more snafus like the OP's are a predictable outcome. 10 hours ago in reply to bodega3 Like Reply TonyA_says michael, it depends on the terms of the agreement. We do not know what that property signed with Expedia. However, the manager said they told Expedia to stop booking. So something is wrong with Expedia's process. Too asynchronous.
  • 6. 9 hours ago Like Reply in reply to Michael__K MarkKelling Yet another reason to book directly instead of through some internet consolidator. If I was attempting to get a hotel room or rental car in an area that was in the middle of a natural disaster, I sure would have called them directly to verify that not only they got my request but that they would also be able to fill my request. Every time there is a hurricane threat to Houston (where I travel to a lot) everyone rents a car and leaves town (or the rental companies move their vehicles to a safer location) and it is a couple weeks before the rental car inventory gets back to normal. This means there are not always cars for those wanting them. Same with hotel rooms (well, the hotels aren't moving the rooms elsewhere, but they are occupied by people who can't get back home). I can't believe that reservations are still faxed to hotels that are part of a major chain or part of any online reservation system. I thought everyone would book electronically these days removing the need for any papers to change hands. It is easy to see how a hotel could get overbooked in this situation. They might only have a dozen rooms available, but receive 30 - 40 faxed reservation requests from agencies resulting in a lot of disappointed arriving guests especially when the booking agent never lets them know no actual confirmation from the property was provided. 1 day ago 2 Likes Like Reply y_p_w I don't know about paper FAXes. Those are rather antiquated. A lot of companies are moving to fully electronic imaging sent via FAX. My computers have FAX capabilities to send and electronic document via FAX protocol. No paper is actually scanned, and even if printed after receipt the copy is nice and sharp without those funky aliasing artifacts from scanning a real piece of paper. Most large corporate FAX systems are dumped into data storage rather than paper. They don't have to worry about running out of paper and the electronic storage makes for a very good archive. I do remember arriving once at a hotel that I got via Priceline. Their computer systems were malfunctioning and they couldn't bring anything up. However, I saw that they had a paper file, and the desk clerk said that they updated it with individual printouts for open reservations every hour. I think they also checked for cancelled reservations and marked those in the file too. He pulled out my reservation file and had me sign it directly. I think that's normally what they do. I could imagine a combination of electronic bookings that aren't being properly transmitted due to down systems, in combination with walk- up customers could make things interesting if it gets overbooked. 1 day ago in reply to MarkKelling 1 Like Like Reply MarkKelling When I said "papers" I meant the documents that were faxed whether they were physical pages or the electronic form. And yes, most faxes these days are dumped into electronic storage so there is no actual paper involved. Still, someone on the receiving end has to know to look for those faxes and enter them into their reservation system which is still a manual process even if all it takes is a couple clicks of the computer mouse. Any system that is not integrated, automatic, and fully
  • 7. electronic requiring a person to do something within the process flow is open to failure. 1 day ago in reply to y_p_w Like Reply MarkieA Question about a comment you made, Chris. You said that, sometimes during natural disasters, hotels will book rooms for 8 hours at a time. I'm curious, in your experience, do they charge 1/3 of the daily rate when they do this? Or do they tend to take advantage of the situation and charge the full daily rate - or more? 1 day ago Like Reply Christopher Elliott, Consumer advocate and journalist. I didn't get into that in the story. From my personal experience, the room rate would be adjusted based on the length of your stay. I once checked into a hotel at 2 a.m. after a long flight and checked out the next morning at 8 a.m., and was charged a half-day rate. 1 day ago in reply to MarkieA 1 Like Like Reply Raven_Altosk So did Scampedia give him his money back? I'm confused...the article says his card was charged...but...what happened to that money? Just another reason to avoid third party sites...especially when they refuse to answer questions about their issues. Doesn't give the consumers a warm and fuzzy feeling. 1 day ago 4 Likes Like Reply TonyA_says LOL, Scampedia !!! 1 day ago in reply to Raven_Altosk 1 Like Like Reply TonyA_says Seriously though ... Re: “My credit card was charged, and I was given a confirmation number by Expedia.” This is what makes this smell a bit like a fraud. If some takes my money, I expect a room. 1 day ago in reply to Raven_Altosk 1 Like Like Reply Carver Clark Farrow II Doesn't sound like fraud to me, more likely just incompetence stemming from a antiquated system, i.e. paper faxes 23 hours ago in reply to TonyA_says Like Reply Christopher Elliott, Consumer advocate and journalist. Expedia won't say, and I haven't been able to reach the guest. I've left numerous voice mails and sent him several emails. I think he's either on vacation or still without power. 1 day ago in reply to Raven_Altosk Like Reply
  • 8. AAmerican1 Another example IMO why it is better to deal with either the hotel website or directly with the property than using third party consolidators. 1 day ago 1 Like Like Reply andrelot Dealing with the hotel website? Probably. Dealing by phone? No way. Phone reservations are the worst possible, there are no confirmation of receipt whatsoever. 1 day ago in reply to AAmerican1 Like Reply y_p_w All depends. I remember booking a room while on the road via the Holiday hotel 800 number. The operator asked for my email address so I could receive confirmation if I got to a place with internet access and for my permanent records. To this day I still have the email with confirmation number and rate. It was odd though. The operator offered me a voucher for $20 dining credit for an additional $8, and I took it. It seemed to make sense to me. When I arrived, the desk clerk said the deal wasn't good, but to make it up to me I just got the voucher for free. Personally I thought that just sticking to the deal would have made for sense for the hotel, but I just rolled with it. 1 day ago in reply to andrelot 1 Like Like Reply AAmerican1 Really? I have email confirmations from 3 hotels I made reservations with for this month & August. All were made direct with hotel property by phone. 1 day ago in reply to andrelot 1 Like Like Reply Jeff Shelby Had a very similar situation occur last summer in Austin with Hotels.com. Got to the property I'd booked and they were full, they'd tried to contact Hotels.com to let them know (two other families were in same situation), etc. The difference was that Hotels.com was fabulous. Took about fifteen minutes on the phone, but they were incredibly apologetic, moved us about five minutes away to another hotel, which was an upgrade from original hotel, and sent me a $100 voucher that was good for a year. A customer service rep also followed up about two days later to again apologize and make sure that everything had worked out. I'm not a huge fan of third party booking sites - I'd used it on a lark for that trip - but I was impressed by their response to the problem. It's incredibly frustrating to see Expedia run and hide. 1 day ago 1 Like Like Reply TonyA_says There is NO DIFFERENCE. Hotels.com is an Expedia brand and owned company. :-) 1 day ago in reply to Jeff Shelby 2 Likes Like Reply
  • 9. Carver Clark Farrow II Surprising, companies within the same hotel brand can be very different. I mean Marriott owns/manages both the Ritz- Carlton and the Fairfield Hotels 23 hours ago in reply to TonyA_says Like Reply jerryatric Lives in the same city yet goes through Expedia. How much did he save? Probably only a couple of $ - if that. AGAIN I always go direct, & check out online companies as well. In most cases the savings difference is not worth the hassle & I end up booking direct. I get the name of the person, confirmation number & almost have never had a problem. I do the same with car rentals & airlines. And if there is a problem explaining it to the front desk in a precise, friendly manner gets it cleared up in a hurry Doing business with any of these online agencies is not worth it. 1 day ago 2 Likes Like Reply bodega3 He probably didn't save. Local hotels often give huge discounts to locals during disaster situations. People who rely on the internet are lemmings. 1 day ago in reply to jerryatric Like Reply TonyA_says Lives in the same city yet goes through Expedia - EXACTLY !!! Charlottesville ain't that big. It is a pretty university [of Virginia] town. He must have gone for the cheaper PRE-PAID non-refundable rate offered by Expedia. 1 day ago in reply to jerryatric 1 Like Like Reply Carver Clark Farrow II Help me out. I've never used Expedia. What's the difference between a local using Expedia and a non-local? 23 hours ago in reply to TonyA_says Like Reply TonyA_says he could have made a local call or swing by the hotel. that is a small town. 21 hours ago Like Reply in reply to Carver Clark Farrow II Carver Clark Farrow II But why would he? If the computer system accepts the reservation what would put him on notice that it wasn't a done deal? Why drive across town when you believe, albeit erroneously, that you have a confirmation. 1 hour ago Like Reply in reply to TonyA_says bodega3
  • 10. Expedia will not have a local rate listed. Many hotels give locals discounts, but you have to contact the hotel directly to get it and show an ID at time of checkin. 19 hours ago Like Reply in reply to Carver Clark Farrow II TonyA_says Christopher Elliott Perhaps there is something more to this story and it might be important to readers of your site. The Hilton Garden Inn at Charlottesville,VA is an Expedia Special Rate (ESR) property . That means the hotel participates in Expedia's Net Rate program, where it gives Expedia a deeply discounted net price (a big percentage off the Best Available Rate) and then Expedia marks it up when it sells to the public. You can see from the attached pic that Expedia sells a discounted rate for this hotel, however that rate is prepaid. So now the $64K question is what about room inventory allocation ??? I suppose that as part of the contract with Expedia, the hotel would allocate a certain amount of rooms for Expedia. Normally room reservations are sent to the hotel via a GDS. The hotel's reservation system can easily display room availability and (automatically) confirm reservations. Expedia also offers an alternative way for hotels to hook up with them using Expedia Quick Connect. In their Best Practices section, they state: If Expedia QuickConnect® functionality is down, bookings will revert to fax or email and availability and rates can be manually updated on the Extranet until the issue is corrected. But what happens when there is a power [or network] blackout and the hotel's reservation system is down? Can Expedia keep on selling prepaid rooms assuming they have a "guaranteed" room allocation from the hotel? Assuming Expedia keeps on sending faxes, isn't that one-way communication and still requires some acknowledgment from the hotel that rooms are still available? If that is the case, then what exactly are customers pre-paying Expedia for, if they can't be sure they have a room? Did Expedia return the OP's money? 1 day ago 4 Likes Like Reply M Subscribe by email S RSS Load more comments Reactions Trackback URL http://www.elliott.org/blog/unnatural-disaster-what-to-do-when-your-hotel-doesnt-have-room/trackback/ Previous post: When a flight’s canceled, who’s responsible?
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