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Division from Family and Sinful Believers 
At this time of the year as the world celebrates the "holiday 
season" it seems most people are focused on togetherness and 
unity with family or friends. There is a strange almost mystical 
emotion at this time of the year ( Nov/Dec) where the world 
seems to be driven by "a spirit" but is it a God honoring spirit? If 
you go read our articles on Christ-mass you will see that this 
spirit is a FALSE one that is not ordained of God but is of pagan 
origins and quite suspect for many reasons. Here is one such 
article that gives the biblical perspective on this man made fake 
holiday: 
http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2013/12/is-celebrating- 
christmas-christ-mass.html 
We have seen it so many times where people's important 
differences, ideals, morals and even solid Christian teachings are 
all set aside for the option of unity. In our own lives we have 
seen MUCH division between both family and those who call 
themselves believers. We will admit if we allow our flesh to get 
in the way it can be sad but when that happens, we just go to 
God's Word and He gives us the peace and truth we must base 
our lives upon for lasting eternal truth. We are to be Christ 
centered and NOT human centered in our ways and thinking per 
God's Word. 
We often hear people say that God is love and He just wants us 
all to be close, share memories and love. Is that really true? Did 
Jesus come to only bring peace? We have also heard people say; 
"can't we just all get along"? In both man made religious 
denominational circles and people's own theology; most all
people opt for compromise and togetherness over the other route 
which is simply standing firm on biblical concepts that honor 
God's Word in all things. Many people are wrongly clinging to 
family relations and those in their religious body when these 
people are "most often" rebellious to God's ways. What does 
Holy God's word teach us about WHO is really our family if we 
are striving for Christ? While the concept of unity is not bad in 
itself; we must ask ourselves two important questions if we 
are striving to be obedient, godly and biblical for God's glory. 
1) Did Jesus teach unity at all costs? 
2) Are you today (if you claim Him) being obedient to what He 
taught about division? 
Let us be clear by saying we agree that God wants His "true 
people" to be united indeed. The catch words are His true 
people. 
The Apostles Paul said this is 1 Corinthians 1;10 
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus 
Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no 
divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in 
the same mind and in the same judgment. 
This is good stuff indeed; unity and to be of one mind. The 
ONLY way this can happen and be God honoring is if it is 
among those who are born in Christ and are FULLY committed 
to living out and keeping His Word. You cannot have unity with 
those who have a mind to bend, cheat, twist or compromise on 
what God has said. The Apostle Paul also said this in Romans
16:17 
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions 
and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and 
avoid them. 
Paul is clear via Gods Holy Spirit. If people leave Gods ways 
you are to avoid them NOT unite with them. 
Having laid the foundation for what honors God (truth even with 
division) lets now answer the 2 questions we posed here. 
1) Did Jesus teach unity at all costs? 
I will just list some verses from Jesus in the book of Matthew 
and you can read them for yourself. They are clear and need no 
long explanation from the likes of us: 
Matt 7:22 
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not 
prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? 
and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I 
profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that 
work iniquity. 
(Here Christ Himself tosses people aside who "so called claim 
Him" into hell for their lawless ways) 
Matthew 10-34-39 
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to 
send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance 
against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the
daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes 
shall be they of his own household. 
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of 
me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not 
worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth 
after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose 
it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 
(Jesus came to bring a sword not peace! And it should be noted 
that Hebrews 4 teaches the Word is a sword that cuts and 
divides.) 
Matthew 12:48-50 
While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his 
brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one 
said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand 
without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said 
unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my 
brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, 
and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever 
shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is 
my brother, and sister, and mother. 
(Jesus thought his true family were those fully faithful to the 
Father.) 
Matthew 18:15-17 
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell 
him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, 
thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then 
take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three 
witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall
neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to 
hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a 
publican. 
(Jesus taught to go to those in sin and if they won't repent; in the 
end treat them as a heathen. How much stronger can you get 
than that and it does not mean you have a turkey dinner with 
them either.) 
Matthew 19:29 
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, 
or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's 
sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting 
life. 
(Here we even see a reward if family division has been your 
path for God's glory.) 
Matthew 24:9-13 
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: 
and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And 
then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and 
shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and 
shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love 
of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, 
the same shall be saved 
(Jesus teaches us that his people will be hated and love will 
grow cold in the last days via false ways even among those who 
claim faith in Him. But if we endure; we will be saved) 
I could go on listing other verses but it is clear by His own 
Words that Christ brought division, wanted division and taught
division for the Fathers glory. Just as He divided out Israel from 
those pagans around them; He divides His true people out from 
those who are false converts and rebellious to His Word in their 
ways. 
So the answer is indeed NO........ Jesus did not teach unity 
over truth and obedience at all! 
2) Are you today (if you claim Him) being obedient to what He 
taught about division? 
Just as we had to test ourselves and those who were in our lives 
as we marched on for Christ; you too MUST examine your faith 
(2 Corinthians 13:5) to see where you stand. We had to leave 
behind or watch many people willingly walk away from us over 
the years. The reason this happened was not that we do not want 
unity. Not at all. It was because they desired error and 
compromise over obedience to God's Holy Word. It was both 
God honoring and good for our spiritual lives to let them go as 
they choose NOT to serve God fully. If and when they repent 
and desire His fullness; they know we are there for them 
indeed! 
Here are some questions only you can answer on biblical 
division in your own life: 
*Is it your desire to fully honor God (not men and even lose 
relationships) for His glory? 
*Do you walk in all of His ways today or have you 
compromised those ways to make it easier to have people in 
your life (family or religious others) for unity sake? (that is 
sinful folks!)
*Who is your real family that Jesus taught us about and are you 
focused on them or others? 
*Have you allowed sons, daughters and denominational 
people/vain traditions (who are in fact disobedient to God in so 
many ways) as the true godly people are left outside your life? 
*Are you biblically focused on and loving those who are striving 
for the will of the Father in ALL things making them your true 
godly family from above? 
*Will the people you have compromised/surrounded yourself 
with hold you to a higher godly standard or just drag you deeper 
into spiritutal lies and error that defames Gods Word? 
*Have you allowed the world's cry for unity to compromise as a 
daily practice? 
*Are your own ways for the favor and company of family or 
others being done against the teachings of Jesus Christ who died 
to redeem and call out His true people? 
*Ask yourself- are you even walking in and fully following His 
ways yourself? (our website helps you there) 
*Are you a lukewarm compromised person only CLAIMING a 
faith but the fruit of your walk is practicing error, man made 
lies, unity with sinners/not saints in this false spirit of the 
season? 
We have heard all the silly and sad human excuses as we used to 
use them ourselves in the past. 
Things like: 
"If we leave people how can we affect their lives?" "We just 
want to get to know them better" or "if we can just be friends 
with them over time we can give them seeds of truth". 
In love we will tell you this... God told Noah to build an ark of 
Gopher wood. It is counted to Noah for being faithful and so he
did not use pine or basswood did he? He used gopher wood! 
God tells you to separate from those who are in sin or who are 
rebellious and reject His ways fully. You have NO biblical 
standing to adopt your own human ways over the God of the 
Universe Ways do you? 
God's true HOLY (set apart) people come out of error and 
darkness they do not stay in it even for unity sake. (See 2 
Corinthains 6) It is a powerful thing when people see you 
willing to separate over what God's Word says vs sitting next to 
them as you sin and compromise the Lords truth. 
The Apostle Paul told us about the last days of man in 2 
Timothy 3:1-7 
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, 
proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, 
incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, 
heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from 
such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into 
houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away 
with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the 
knowledge of the truth. 
In love we must tell you that these are the kinds of people you 
will be uniting with if you choose to compromise on biblical 
division for your life. Paul also warned us about the persecution 
that will come when you step out in a bible life and practice 
God's Word fully:
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer 
persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and 
worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the 
things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, 
knowing of whom thou hast learned them . 2 Timothy 3:13-14 
We can tell you that in all the years we lived with unity and 
compromise as our main marching orders; we were NEVER 
persecuted for Christs sake. So we were NOT living godly. But 
the instant we did act out faithful to His Word we saw the fruit 
of those who we once claimed as our own. Their fruit was 
ungodly and sinful in the end as they persecuted us (mocked 
God's truth) for our standing on His Word. 
As they say birds of a feather flock together. 
Where are you standing today and with whom do you flock 
or stand? 
If you do not practice biblical division then you are allowing 
much sin into your life (Galatians 5:9) when God has 
commanded otherwise for His true holy people. 
We will gladly stand totally alone with God than to have 
hundreds around us in sin, compromise and great spiritual 
error. 
Jesus said if you love Him keep His commands (John14:15) 
(Keeping all of God's Word is His people's command amen?)
Go here and test your own faith and body to God's Standards 
and Ways will you: 
http://www.nopews.blogspot.com/p/test-your-faith-here.html 
We hope this lesson will help you to examine your life and 
begin to put God's Holy Ways to work. 
Unless you're fully in His ways in spirit and truth worship (John 
4:24) you are just a lost vain religious person (Mark7) and we 
want better for you. 
Please go listen to the gospel message here: 
http://www.nopews.blogspot.com/p/how-to-be-redeemed.html 
Also go to our discernment blog for many teachings on topics 
we have covered here that will help you expose sin and see man 
made religious error to be repented of, then avoided for God's 
glory. 
http://www.nopews.blogspot.com/p/discernment-blog-articles. 
html 
Let us know how we can assist you in anyway at all. 
May God be praised 
Jim and Debbie 
www.nopew.blogspot.com

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Division From Family And Sinful Believers

  • 1. Division from Family and Sinful Believers At this time of the year as the world celebrates the "holiday season" it seems most people are focused on togetherness and unity with family or friends. There is a strange almost mystical emotion at this time of the year ( Nov/Dec) where the world seems to be driven by "a spirit" but is it a God honoring spirit? If you go read our articles on Christ-mass you will see that this spirit is a FALSE one that is not ordained of God but is of pagan origins and quite suspect for many reasons. Here is one such article that gives the biblical perspective on this man made fake holiday: http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2013/12/is-celebrating- christmas-christ-mass.html We have seen it so many times where people's important differences, ideals, morals and even solid Christian teachings are all set aside for the option of unity. In our own lives we have seen MUCH division between both family and those who call themselves believers. We will admit if we allow our flesh to get in the way it can be sad but when that happens, we just go to God's Word and He gives us the peace and truth we must base our lives upon for lasting eternal truth. We are to be Christ centered and NOT human centered in our ways and thinking per God's Word. We often hear people say that God is love and He just wants us all to be close, share memories and love. Is that really true? Did Jesus come to only bring peace? We have also heard people say; "can't we just all get along"? In both man made religious denominational circles and people's own theology; most all
  • 2. people opt for compromise and togetherness over the other route which is simply standing firm on biblical concepts that honor God's Word in all things. Many people are wrongly clinging to family relations and those in their religious body when these people are "most often" rebellious to God's ways. What does Holy God's word teach us about WHO is really our family if we are striving for Christ? While the concept of unity is not bad in itself; we must ask ourselves two important questions if we are striving to be obedient, godly and biblical for God's glory. 1) Did Jesus teach unity at all costs? 2) Are you today (if you claim Him) being obedient to what He taught about division? Let us be clear by saying we agree that God wants His "true people" to be united indeed. The catch words are His true people. The Apostles Paul said this is 1 Corinthians 1;10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. This is good stuff indeed; unity and to be of one mind. The ONLY way this can happen and be God honoring is if it is among those who are born in Christ and are FULLY committed to living out and keeping His Word. You cannot have unity with those who have a mind to bend, cheat, twist or compromise on what God has said. The Apostle Paul also said this in Romans
  • 3. 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Paul is clear via Gods Holy Spirit. If people leave Gods ways you are to avoid them NOT unite with them. Having laid the foundation for what honors God (truth even with division) lets now answer the 2 questions we posed here. 1) Did Jesus teach unity at all costs? I will just list some verses from Jesus in the book of Matthew and you can read them for yourself. They are clear and need no long explanation from the likes of us: Matt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Here Christ Himself tosses people aside who "so called claim Him" into hell for their lawless ways) Matthew 10-34-39 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the
  • 4. daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. (Jesus came to bring a sword not peace! And it should be noted that Hebrews 4 teaches the Word is a sword that cuts and divides.) Matthew 12:48-50 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. (Jesus thought his true family were those fully faithful to the Father.) Matthew 18:15-17 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall
  • 5. neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. (Jesus taught to go to those in sin and if they won't repent; in the end treat them as a heathen. How much stronger can you get than that and it does not mean you have a turkey dinner with them either.) Matthew 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. (Here we even see a reward if family division has been your path for God's glory.) Matthew 24:9-13 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved (Jesus teaches us that his people will be hated and love will grow cold in the last days via false ways even among those who claim faith in Him. But if we endure; we will be saved) I could go on listing other verses but it is clear by His own Words that Christ brought division, wanted division and taught
  • 6. division for the Fathers glory. Just as He divided out Israel from those pagans around them; He divides His true people out from those who are false converts and rebellious to His Word in their ways. So the answer is indeed NO........ Jesus did not teach unity over truth and obedience at all! 2) Are you today (if you claim Him) being obedient to what He taught about division? Just as we had to test ourselves and those who were in our lives as we marched on for Christ; you too MUST examine your faith (2 Corinthians 13:5) to see where you stand. We had to leave behind or watch many people willingly walk away from us over the years. The reason this happened was not that we do not want unity. Not at all. It was because they desired error and compromise over obedience to God's Holy Word. It was both God honoring and good for our spiritual lives to let them go as they choose NOT to serve God fully. If and when they repent and desire His fullness; they know we are there for them indeed! Here are some questions only you can answer on biblical division in your own life: *Is it your desire to fully honor God (not men and even lose relationships) for His glory? *Do you walk in all of His ways today or have you compromised those ways to make it easier to have people in your life (family or religious others) for unity sake? (that is sinful folks!)
  • 7. *Who is your real family that Jesus taught us about and are you focused on them or others? *Have you allowed sons, daughters and denominational people/vain traditions (who are in fact disobedient to God in so many ways) as the true godly people are left outside your life? *Are you biblically focused on and loving those who are striving for the will of the Father in ALL things making them your true godly family from above? *Will the people you have compromised/surrounded yourself with hold you to a higher godly standard or just drag you deeper into spiritutal lies and error that defames Gods Word? *Have you allowed the world's cry for unity to compromise as a daily practice? *Are your own ways for the favor and company of family or others being done against the teachings of Jesus Christ who died to redeem and call out His true people? *Ask yourself- are you even walking in and fully following His ways yourself? (our website helps you there) *Are you a lukewarm compromised person only CLAIMING a faith but the fruit of your walk is practicing error, man made lies, unity with sinners/not saints in this false spirit of the season? We have heard all the silly and sad human excuses as we used to use them ourselves in the past. Things like: "If we leave people how can we affect their lives?" "We just want to get to know them better" or "if we can just be friends with them over time we can give them seeds of truth". In love we will tell you this... God told Noah to build an ark of Gopher wood. It is counted to Noah for being faithful and so he
  • 8. did not use pine or basswood did he? He used gopher wood! God tells you to separate from those who are in sin or who are rebellious and reject His ways fully. You have NO biblical standing to adopt your own human ways over the God of the Universe Ways do you? God's true HOLY (set apart) people come out of error and darkness they do not stay in it even for unity sake. (See 2 Corinthains 6) It is a powerful thing when people see you willing to separate over what God's Word says vs sitting next to them as you sin and compromise the Lords truth. The Apostle Paul told us about the last days of man in 2 Timothy 3:1-7 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. In love we must tell you that these are the kinds of people you will be uniting with if you choose to compromise on biblical division for your life. Paul also warned us about the persecution that will come when you step out in a bible life and practice God's Word fully:
  • 9. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them . 2 Timothy 3:13-14 We can tell you that in all the years we lived with unity and compromise as our main marching orders; we were NEVER persecuted for Christs sake. So we were NOT living godly. But the instant we did act out faithful to His Word we saw the fruit of those who we once claimed as our own. Their fruit was ungodly and sinful in the end as they persecuted us (mocked God's truth) for our standing on His Word. As they say birds of a feather flock together. Where are you standing today and with whom do you flock or stand? If you do not practice biblical division then you are allowing much sin into your life (Galatians 5:9) when God has commanded otherwise for His true holy people. We will gladly stand totally alone with God than to have hundreds around us in sin, compromise and great spiritual error. Jesus said if you love Him keep His commands (John14:15) (Keeping all of God's Word is His people's command amen?)
  • 10. Go here and test your own faith and body to God's Standards and Ways will you: http://www.nopews.blogspot.com/p/test-your-faith-here.html We hope this lesson will help you to examine your life and begin to put God's Holy Ways to work. Unless you're fully in His ways in spirit and truth worship (John 4:24) you are just a lost vain religious person (Mark7) and we want better for you. Please go listen to the gospel message here: http://www.nopews.blogspot.com/p/how-to-be-redeemed.html Also go to our discernment blog for many teachings on topics we have covered here that will help you expose sin and see man made religious error to be repented of, then avoided for God's glory. http://www.nopews.blogspot.com/p/discernment-blog-articles. html Let us know how we can assist you in anyway at all. May God be praised Jim and Debbie www.nopew.blogspot.com