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Ketan Gangatirkar
Vice President of Engineering – Job Seeker
Indeed
The Alchemy & Science of
Product Metrics: Choosing
Metrics That Work
I help
people
get
jobs
Search
Tap
Apply Now
Apply
Interview
TODO offer
Offer
You’re hired!
In theory…
How do we know if it worked?
Use Big Data!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 you have 2 quadrillion problems
“Computers are useless.
They can only give you answers.”
—
Pablo Picasso
“Data is useless.
It can only give you answers.”
—
This Guy
What questions are you asking?
(no matter how much good data you have)
Bad Questions Bad Science
Chemistry
Alchemy
Rules of thumb, recipes, and fantasy
Useful
?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
People died all the time
This is not science
This is not science
● Incomplete
● Inflexible
● Inexplicable
The alchemy of metrics
Lots of recipes frameworksLots of recipes frameworks
Frameworks ≠ Science
Creating a science of metrics
Quality
attribute, property, or characteristic of a phenomenon
Unit
a count or measure of this quality
Metric = number * unit
Mass = 2 Kilograms
Interaction = 6 clicks
Searches
Job alert subscriptions
Job applications
Mobile app installs
Resume uploads
Clicks
Hires
Saving a job
Page count
Net promoter score
Unsubscriptions
Bounce rate
Click-through rate
Adoption
Repeat visits
Unique visitors
Number of accounts
Happiness
Conversions
Positive responses
Blocked jobs
Shares
Dwell time
Follows
Open rate
Uninstalls
Ratings
Actions
Engagement
Interviews
Page views
Sessions
Daily active users
What do we measure?!?!?!
Before what comes why
Everyone has different goals
There is no one right metric for everyone
There is no one right metric for everyone
Lifetime value
Total product benefit generated over all time
OR
More Jobs
Data Scientist
Microsoft
4,230 reviews - London
The role
We are looking to growing our
data team and if you love
understanding the customers
through the data lens this
position is for you. We are
poised with finding new ways for
uncovering data insights to
increase our ability to build an
More Resumes
President
president@indeed.com
Work Experience
President
Indeed - Austin, TX
Oct. 2015 -Present
Indeed is the #1 job site
worldwide with over 180
million unique visitors and 2
billion searches per month
in more than 60 countries.
SVP, Product & Engineering
Indeed - Austin, TX
October 2010 - October 2015
Indeed is the #1 job site
worldwide with over 180
million unique visitors and 2
billion searches per month
in more than 60 countries.
More Jobs More Resumes
President
president@indeed.com
Work Experience
President
Indeed - Austin, TX
Oct. 2015 -Present
Indeed is the #1 job site
worldwide with over 180
million unique visitors and 2
billion searches per month
in more than 60 countries.
SVP, Product & Engineering
Indeed - Austin, TX
October 2010 - October 2015
Indeed is the #1 job site
worldwide with over 180
million unique visitors and 2
billion searches per month
in more than 60 countries.
Lifetime Value
Data Scientist
Microsoft
4,230 reviews - London
The role
We are looking to growing our
data team and if you love
understanding the customers
through the data lens this
position is for you. We are
poised with finding new ways for
uncovering data insights to
increase our ability to build an
OR
Lifetime value!
Lifetime value works for everything
How long does it take to measure lifetime value?
2018-2094
Manuela Jobseeker
"Now we can finally
finish that A/B
test."
We need to ship next week
Meta-metrics
Metrics for metrics
Sensitivity
how quickly and easily you can influence a metric
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
Slow and difficult to change
Fast and easy to change
Correlation
frequency of agreement with lifetime value
High correlation
Usually leads toward lifetime value
Rarely leads elsewhere
Lifetime value
Medium correlation
Generally leads toward lifetime value
Occasionally leads elsewhere
Lifetime value
Low correlation
Sometimes leads toward lifetime value
Often leads elsewhere
Lifetime value
CORRELATION
Almost always
leads toward
lifetime value
Unpredictably
leads toward
lifetime value
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
CORRELATION
(not to scale)
CORRELATION
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
Lifetime value
Other metrics
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
CORRELATION
Lifetime value
Mobile app install
Saving a job
DAU
Phase of the moon
Mouse pointer movement
Lifetime value
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
CORRELATION
Search
Tap
Interview
Offer
Hire
Apply
Lifetime value
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
CORRELATION
Pareto Efficiency
Vilfredo Pareto
Pareto Efficiency
When you can't improve one thing without making something else worse
Risk →
Possible
Impossible
↑
Reward
Bitcoin
Delicious →
↑
Healthy
Possible
Impossible
English food
Pareto meets sensitivity and correlation
Search
Tap
Interview
Offer
Hire
Apply
Lifetime value
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
CORRELATION
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
CORRELATION
FASTER
WORSE
BETTER
SLOWER
CorrelationSensitivity
Lifetime valueSearch
Tap Interview
Offer
Hire
Apply
Time for some funnel
Search Tap Apply Interview Offer Hire
Search
Tap
Apply
Interview
Offer
“I need a job”
”I got a job!”
Problem
Outcome
OUTPUT
WORK
INPUT
WORK
INPUT
OUTPUT
WORK
OUTPUT
INPUT
OUTPUT
INPUT
WORK
WORK
Where to validate changes
Modify this
Maybe this?
Or this?
What about this?
Measure this?
S
E
N
S
I
T
I
V
I
T
Y
C
O
R
R
E
L
A
T
I
O
N
When to favor outcomes
Favor outcomes
+ Late in the funnel
+ Smaller opportunities
+ Have time for sophisticated analysis
+ Owner has more influence over outcome
Favor outcomes if you can
When to favor outputs
+ Exploratory product discovering possible outcomes
+ Opportunities for big improvements
+ Only simple analysis
+ Less influence over outcome
Favor outputs
Favor outputs if you must
I help
people
look at
job descriptions.
What to measure in your funnel
Timeless needs
Your solutions are always evolving
Your users' needs and preferences are not
I very frequently get the question: "What’s
going to change in the next 10 years?"
I almost never get the question: "What’s not
going to change in the next 10 years?"
That second question is actually the more
important of the two — because you can
build a business strategy around the things
that are stable in time…
We know that customers want low prices, and
I know that’s going to be true 10 years from
now. They want fast delivery; they want vast
selection.
It’s impossible to imagine a future 10 years
from now where a customer comes up and
says, "Jeff I love Amazon; I just wish the
prices were a little higher," [or] "I love
Amazon; I just wish you’d deliver a little more
slowly."
Jeff Bezos
Chairman, CEO, President, and Ruthless Cyborg Killer
Amazon, Inc.
Many degrees of freedom
Choose metrics that can be improved multiple ways
Your first effort will fail
You need backup plans
Metric B'
Metric C'
Invalid hypotheses
Metric A'Plan A
Plan B
Plan C
You need backup plans with the same success metrics
A better hypothesis
The same metrics
Plan A
Plan B
Plan C
Every interesting phenomenon is multi-dimensional
Search
Tap
Apply
Interview
Offer
Apply
Apply
Job seeker
Job application
Measuring funnel stages
Apply
Quantity of input
Apply
Quality of input
Apply
Apply
Quantity of output
Apply
Quality of output
Apply
Time
Apply
Effort
Apply
Cost
Apply
Happiness
Funnel stage dimensions
Apply
1 Quality of input
2 Quantity of input
3 Quality of output
4 Quantity of output
5 Time
6 Effort
7 Cost
8 Happiness
1 Quality of input
2 Quantity of input
3 Time to complete
4 Effort to complete
5 Cost
6 Happiness
Similar measures for your whole funnel
Number of steps
1
2
3
4
5
Quantity of outcome
Quality of outcome
Measuring a funnel
1 Quality of input
2 Quantity of input
3 Time to complete
4 Effort to complete
5 Cost
6 Happiness
7 Number of stages
8 Quality of outcome
9 Quantity of outcome
So many choices…
1 Quality of input
2 Quantity of input
3 Quality of output
4 Quantity of output
5 Time
6 Effort
7 Cost
8 Happiness
1 Quality of input
2 Quantity of input
3 Time to complete
4 Effort to complete
5 Cost
6 Happiness
7 Number of stages
8 Quality of outcome
9 Quantity of outcome
Finding your North Star
Outcome
Maximize Outcome Quality
Maximize Outcome Quantity
Where's the bottleneck?
Why's the bottleneck?
Low quality?
Too slow?
Too expensive?
…
Your bottleneck is your North Star
NORTH
^
Eliminating bottlenecks
Bottlenecks move
Polaris
Gamma Cephei
Alderamin
Deneb
Your North Star will move
Finding your new North Star
Need Outcome Bottleneck Diagnosis ActionHypothesis
Your North Star
(for now)
How many metrics?
Different metrics deviate in different ways
+ +
Combine multiple metrics to reduce deviation
=
Too many metrics restrict movement
50% chance of one
metric improving
25% chance of two
metrics improving
12.5% chance of three
metrics improving
6.25% chance of four
metrics improving
F
R
E
E
D
O
M
Degrees of freedom
NUMBER OF METRICS
Marginal information gain
Every metric you add should significantly improve the quality of your
decisions
I
N
F
O
R
M
A
T
I
O
N
Information gain
NUMBER OF METRICS
Trading off
Freedom
Information
I
N
F
O
R
M
A
T
I
O
N
Target 3-4 independent metrics
Better prediction using mental models
The measure of a metric is its utility
(not truth or accuracy or meaning)
Focus on what optimizing the metric does
Thought experiments
Which actions improve my metric?
Which actions degrade my metric?
Phone screen
Search
Tap
Apply
Interview
Offer
Hire
“I need a job”
+ Insincere activity
+ Indiscriminate targeting of jobs
Optimizing for phone screens
Encourages
+ Deeper engagement
Discourages
+ Broad attention across many jobs
+ Selective targeting of jobs
+ Many applications to fewer jobs
Is this what we want?
Choosing between similar options
Volume = total phone screens
Coverage = number of job seekers with phone screen
Volume vs. Coverage
3 4
5 45Volume
1Coverage
Where do they diverge?
Good for
more job seekers
Better for
fewer job seekers
versus
Metrics = strategy
Your choice of metrics defines your problem
You will never find strategy in the data
You have to bring your own strategy
(and then measure it)
Solving problems with science
Increasing lifetime value
Lifetime valuePersistent needOutcomeOutputBottleneckAction
6 things to try in your next product meeting
1) Estimate sensitivity and correlation
2) Find your Pareto frontier
3) Map your funnel and apply standard metrics
4) Trade off outputs and outcomes
5) Target 3-4 independent metrics
6) Run thought experiments
The end
(for realz this time)
More information
Contact ketan@scienceofmetrics.com
Video of v1 of this talk https://go.indeed.com/alchemy-metrics
Key points summary https://go.indeed.com/MetricsThatWork
Indeed Engineering Blog http://engineering.indeedblog.com/blog/
Next Session
How to Find Your Product's North Star Metric
Presented by Alicia Shiu, Dropbox

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