CERN Project Viewer Summary
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The synthesis of the contest for selection of the CERN-wide CAD data viewer.
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CERN Project Viewer Summary
- 1. Project summary Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 1
- 2. • The scope is to deliver viewing and investigative capabilities to collaborators of CERN • CERN is an global scientific collaboration, the design data must be available to the collaborators which are geographically remote or/and unfamiliar to the local PDM system, CAD or engineering. Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 2
- 3. • Viewing 3D CAD files • Viewing the assembly tree structure • Perform measurements • Make sections • Easy way to access the data But software can do a lot more… Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 3
- 4. • Read CATIA native files + all relevant CAD file formats • Comparison of 3D/2D and their attributes to determine changes • Interference detection, minimum distance • Calculate mass properties as center of gravity, moments of inertia, inertia tensor, etc. • Advanced 3D manipulation as Explode, Resize, Disassemble, Assemble, Transform • Creation of notes, redlining, keep measurements • Collaboration possibilities • Search for parts in a 3D assembly based on a of native file attributes • Support for Product Manufacturing Information (PMI) • And more… Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1065787 4
- 5. Read native or convert? Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 5
- 6. Native CATIA format Viewer SmarTeam EDMS Native CAT Part CATIA format CATIA Check-in CAT Product Publishing Action and other file CAT Drawing format Viewer Pro Contra Quality Sensibility Universality Complexity No offline work No versioning Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 6
- 7. Native CATIA format Viewer Company Software Pro Contra Note result Brand, Formats, Big brad software with lot of Features, Extension to Oracle AutoVue features, no extension towards Integration converter an convertor possible. Focused product, Small brand product developed Rasterex RxViewServer Features, Price?, Brand, 3D license for one purpose with good Formats, Demo features, worth trying. Formats, Quality Focus on quality checking and CoreTechnologie 3D_Analyzer checker, Convertor, Features Integration translation, web integration not certain. Very useful for data conversion. Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 7
- 8. Second format Viewer SmarTeam EDMS “Batch server” CAT Part Batch Second Publishing translation to storage CATIA Check-in CAT Product format viewer Action second format CAT Drawing Pro Contra Weight loss Loss of quality Simplicity Basic features Second format Versioning Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 8
- 9. Second format Viewer Company Software Pro Contra Note result Adobe LiveCycle ES2 Software Instantly Reader, portable, Not reusable data, accepted by users . Simple Adobe free features, Basic features and satisfying also for non Adobe Reader Simplicity technical users. 3DVIA Sync Developed for much more Visualization, Basic features, then viewing. Official Dassault Systems Brand, V6 prep, Closed format, 3DVIA Composer Dassault strategy with Specialized One way road Player licensing question. 3Devolution Opposite global Specialized tool with Brand, Features, Siemens software strategy, advanced features. Direct TEAMCENTER Specialized Reusable data competitor of Dassault. lifecycle visualization Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 9
- 10. Oracle, Adobe, Dassault AutoVue web Adobe Reader 3DVIA Composer Player Viewing neutral format CAD files yes yes yes Viewing the assembly tree yes yes yes structure Perform measurements yes yes yes Low ergonomy Make sections yes yes yes Easy way to access the data Web integration Globally accepted viewer Software installation needed. platform-indepent solution platform-indepent solutions Not platform independent solution Multi CAD support Virtually all file formats (100+) All major CAD vendors and PDF Some CAD vendors (15) print (30+ 100+) OS / Web browser compatibility Windows Server, Linux Server Windows, Windows Server, Mac Windows XP & 7, 32 & 64 bit , Java-enabled clients OS, Linux, Solaris MS Explorer, Firefox , Safari MS Explorer, Firefox , Safari Comparison of 3D/2D and their yes no no attributes Interference detection yes no no Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 10
- 11. Oracle, Adobe, Dassault AutoVue web Adobe Reader 3DVIA Composer Player Calculate mass properties Yes no no Explode, Resize, Disassemble, Yes no no Assemble, Transform Creation of notes, redlining, keep yes yes yes measurements Can’t save 3D for free (picture yes) Collaboration features yes yes no As separate product 3D properties, attributes and text yes no no search Text search only Support for PMI yes yes yes Can be used for offline no yes yes presentations Template support no yes no Advanced Security settings and yes yes no permissions management Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 11
- 12. Oracle, Adobe, Dassault AutoVue web Adobe Reader 3DVIA Composer Player Installation and Maintenance Was not installed successfully Was not installed successfully ? Support from the software vendor Oracle ignored support Adobe used unfair practices ? - anticipated requests Costs for CERN Communication with vendor Way too much, (commercial Academic license ended in the initial phase license) Costs for collaborator none Paying per viewing none Software abandoned due to License terms and conditions of Academic license acquired after missing collaboration from the the software vendor made it settling the dispute over legal issue. By side of vendor. The system too impossible for CERN to use this time of updating of this presentation complicated, we did not solution. (February 2012) the license was not managed to set it up. yet received by CERN. Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 12
- 13. Screenshot Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 13
- 14. Screenshot Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 14
- 15. Screenshot Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 15
- 16. Winner is: 3DVIA Composer Player • Chosen because of the advantage of single supplier of CAD system and viewer and because it was the only solution which we managed to bring in to the test phase. SmarTeam 3DVIA Sync EDMS SMG ZIP CAT Part Publishing Batch Other? CATIA Check-in storage CAT Product Action translation to second format CAT Drawing Download & open 3DVIA Composer Player Michal Mlynarcik 01. July 2011 EDMS: 1076927 16
Notas do Editor
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Weight loss: second format will be probably much lighter, packaged and simple to shear Loss of quality: Inevitable loss of quality and information Simplicity: The viewer is adjusted to the format and can manipulate data much simple and effectiveBasic features: No free viewer (embedded or not) offers advanced features for data manipulationSecond format: Availability of a second format to be used for collaboration etc.Versioning: Formats which can be imported in a CAD tool, can be used to create unwanted parallel development branch out of the context.
- Weight loss: second format will be probably much lighter, packaged and simple to shear Loss of quality: Inevitable loss of quality and information Simplicity: The viewer is adjusted to the format and can manipulate data much simple and effectiveBasic features: No free viewer (embedded or not) offers advanced features for data manipulationSecond format: Availability of a second format to be used for collaboration etc.Versioning: Formats which can be imported in a CAD tool, can be used to create unwanted parallel development branch out of the context.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.
- Quality: data quality not affected by translationSensibility: Software which reads directly native data is more likely to suffer under data low qualityUniversality: Software should read 3D, 2D and any other data attached to the SmarTeam ItemComplexity: If not possible to disable functionalities could lead to confusion cause of many complex featuresNo versioning: no other versions of data exist for misleading “doublons”.No offline work: If you want to take the data with you and use it somehow, you can’t cause you have no portable data available.