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How to Hack the Culture Stack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Photo by Toa Heftiba on Unsplash
“We think in story. It’s hardwired in our brain. It’s how we make strategic
sense of the otherwise overwhelming world around us.”




-Lisa Cron, Wired for Story
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Culture is the human operating system
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
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“Since large-scale human cooperation is based on myths, the way


people cooperate can be altered by changing the myths


– by telling different stories.”




-Yuval Noah Harari, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
About Me
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
About Me
✨ Director of User Experience at


 🏳🌈 White House LGBTQ Tech Fellow


✨ Product Leadership Coach


🇧🇷🇺🇸 Immigrant
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
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1. Over 40,000 units sold


2. More than 17,000 5–Star customer reviews


3. From 0 designers to IPO in 2 years


4. 100’s of customer research interviews


5. ~60 UX people


• User Research


• Service Design


• Content design


• Product design
By the Numbers
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
How might we design better


workplace cultures?
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
The Culture Stack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
“Culture is the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves.”




-Clifford Geertz, Anthropologist
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
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A way to connect culture to strategy when
thinking about and building high
performing software teams.


To change behaviours, ensure you have
the right beliefs held in common.
The Culture Stack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Values, Vision & Mission
In corporate culture, it’s important to
acknowledge that these are beliefs.


They reflect what we think is important
and held in common.
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Great software is the result of teams that are
psychologically safe
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
“{Psychological safety is]…a shared belief held by members of a team that
the team is safe for interpersonal risk taking”




-Amy Edmonson, Harvard University, 1991
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Psychological Safety


I feel safe and even expected to challenge the status quo
without people thinking I’m negative or an upstart


I feel safe to use learnings and make suggestions about
improving things without feeling intrusive


I feel safe admitting I don’t know everything and asking
questions without being seen as incompetent


I feel safe to share my personality, skills, and ways of
thinking without feeling like an outsider
Inclusion Safety
Learner Safety
Contributor Safety
Challenger Safety
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Psychological Safety


I feel safe and even expected to challenge the status quo
without people thinking I’m negative or an upstart


I feel safe to use learnings and make suggestions about
improving things without feeling intrusive


I feel safe admitting I don’t know everything and asking
questions without being seen as incompetent


I feel safe to share my personality, skills, and ways of
thinking without feeling like an outsider
Inclusion Safety
Learner Safety
Contributor Safety
Challenger Safety
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
“[Psychologically safe culture is]…a climate in which raising a dissenting
view is expected and welcomed. A tolerance of dissent allows productive
discussions and early detection of problems.”




-Amy Edmonson, Harvard University, 1991
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Is your culture psychologically safe?
“People stop taking values seriously when the public rewards (and consequences) don’t
match up. We can say that our culture requires treating each other with respect, but all
too often, the openly rude high performer is privately disciplined, but keeps getting
more and better projects.”




-Jocelyn Goldfein, Culture is the behaviours you reward and punish
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
46%
of men in one survey of almost 1500 men would try
to directly interrupt a sexist event in their workplace.
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Interrupting Sexism?
Climate of Silence


A culture in which employees
feel restrained from speaking
about organisational or work-
related problems, concerns, or
challenges.
Combative Culture


A hyper-competitive workplace
culture where value is attributed
to a quest to dominate others
and compete over power,
authority, and status.
Climate of Futility




An environment that creates the
sense that efforts to make change
will not matter or have desired
impact.
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Have you ever seen or heard something sexist
at work?
What did you do about it?
Values based decision making
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
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Use decision making principles to help others
align with the future you want to build
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Culture


Add
Culture


Fit
>
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Culture


Add
Culture


Fit
>
https://bit.ly/culture-add


Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Learners
Perfectly
qualified
>
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Product & Design
Scrap everything you think you know.
Listen to the user. Test. Discard. Test
again.




Listen. Ask more questions. Fine tune.
Refine. Clarify at every step.




Question each and every assumption.


Culture & People
It’ll sort itself. I’m too busy for that.


Scale first, questions later


Keep calm, carry on


Please keep your hands, feet, and
questions inside the dominant paradigm
at all times.
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
The Hiring Playbook
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Hiring Principles
• De
fi
ne skills based on the most relevant behaviours you need


• Look for skill parallels not just the textbook skill


• Define your skills VERY clearly with your team


• People skills should be based on desired outcomes not
personality


• Technical skills should be clearly defined and negotiable
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
The Scorecard
• Speci
fi
c skills based and behavioural


• A mix of technical skills and people skills


• Articulated and understood by the whole team


• Shared understanding of what the scores look like


• Skill weights are established for the role and shared with the panel i.e.


• at least a 3/5 on stakeholder management


• At least a 2/5 on user research
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
The Scorecard Template
Skill Description Score
Research
Presentation and communication shows this person makes research informed design decisions. Their
prior work relies on a variety of techniques like interviews, diary studies, jobs to be done, journey maps,
and quantitative data with confidence.


X/5
Information Architecture
Considers content needs in work before interactions. Can break down work into content, objects, and
events as needed. Organises interactions around mental models and content needs.


X/5
Interaction Design
Defines and articulates a problem and aligns with others on it before exploring solutions. Comfortable
and confident in challenging decisions and asking questions. Work demonstrates an understanding of
how to balance user needs and business needs.


X/5
Collaboration
Demonstrates examples of involving team in decision making and collaboration throughout product
lifecycle. Can illustrate examples of when input from others meant a change of direction. Works to keep
pace with the needs of others in the business.
X/5
Communication
Attentive, empathetic. Focuses on gathering contributions from others. Organizes information to align
teams and stakeholders. Has a well developed toolkit of techniques to align diverging opinions.
X/5
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
The Process
1st – Screening for culture & values


2nd – Technical Interview


• Never a take home; no homework


• Focused on prior work (exceptions for entry level)


• Scripts are focused on prior behaviours over hypotheticals


3rd – Balanced Team Interview 


• Ways of Working with other roles


• Technical skills should be clearly defined and negotiable
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
The Advocate Role
• Rotating role


• Sole job is to push in favour of the candidate


• Advocate for balance in discussions


• Help the team balance perspectives


• Ensure everyone speaks


• Judges feedback against written scorecard
requirements to check for bias
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
The Panel Debrief
• A panel of 6


• Quick thumbs up/down at the same time


• Everyone has to own their opinion, share
feedback and cite specific examples


• Minority opinion goes first to avoid groupthink


• Feedback is collected for candidates and given to
them regardless of offer
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Candidate Debrief
• Feedback is collected for candidates and given to
them regardless of offer


• We ask for feedback from the candidate about
the process


• How was the process?


• Anything we could have done better?


• Anything that felt needlessly difficult? Why?


• Candidate feedback is distributed to the hiring
panel
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
Saielle DaSilva


Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo


#CultureStack
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How to Hack the Culture Stack

  • 1. blossomat.work 
 @Intentionaut 
 hello.saielle@icloud.com How to Hack the Culture Stack Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 2. Photo by Toa Heftiba on Unsplash
  • 3. “We think in story. It’s hardwired in our brain. It’s how we make strategic sense of the otherwise overwhelming world around us.” 
 
 -Lisa Cron, Wired for Story Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 4. Culture is the human operating system Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 5. Photo by Trnava University on Unsplash
  • 6. “Since large-scale human cooperation is based on myths, the way 
 people cooperate can be altered by changing the myths 
 – by telling different stories.” 
 
 -Yuval Noah Harari, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 7. About Me Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 8. About Me ✨ Director of User Experience at  🏳🌈 White House LGBTQ Tech Fellow ✨ Product Leadership Coach 🇧🇷🇺🇸 Immigrant Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack blossomat.work 
 @Intentionaut 
 hello.saielle@icloud.com
  • 9. 1. Over 40,000 units sold 2. More than 17,000 5–Star customer reviews 3. From 0 designers to IPO in 2 years 4. 100’s of customer research interviews 5. ~60 UX people • User Research • Service Design • Content design • Product design By the Numbers Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 10. How might we design better 
 workplace cultures? Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 11. The Culture Stack Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 12. “Culture is the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves.” 
 -Clifford Geertz, Anthropologist Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 13. Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack blossomat.work 
 @Intentionaut 
 hello.saielle@icloud.com
  • 14. A way to connect culture to strategy when thinking about and building high performing software teams. To change behaviours, ensure you have the right beliefs held in common. The Culture Stack Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 15. Values, Vision & Mission In corporate culture, it’s important to acknowledge that these are beliefs. They reflect what we think is important and held in common. Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 16. Great software is the result of teams that are psychologically safe Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 17. “{Psychological safety is]…a shared belief held by members of a team that the team is safe for interpersonal risk taking” 
 -Amy Edmonson, Harvard University, 1991 Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 18. Psychological Safety 
 I feel safe and even expected to challenge the status quo without people thinking I’m negative or an upstart 
 I feel safe to use learnings and make suggestions about improving things without feeling intrusive 
 I feel safe admitting I don’t know everything and asking questions without being seen as incompetent 
 I feel safe to share my personality, skills, and ways of thinking without feeling like an outsider Inclusion Safety Learner Safety Contributor Safety Challenger Safety Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 19. Psychological Safety 
 I feel safe and even expected to challenge the status quo without people thinking I’m negative or an upstart 
 I feel safe to use learnings and make suggestions about improving things without feeling intrusive 
 I feel safe admitting I don’t know everything and asking questions without being seen as incompetent 
 I feel safe to share my personality, skills, and ways of thinking without feeling like an outsider Inclusion Safety Learner Safety Contributor Safety Challenger Safety Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 20. “[Psychologically safe culture is]…a climate in which raising a dissenting view is expected and welcomed. A tolerance of dissent allows productive discussions and early detection of problems.” 
 -Amy Edmonson, Harvard University, 1991 Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 21. Is your culture psychologically safe?
  • 22. “People stop taking values seriously when the public rewards (and consequences) don’t match up. We can say that our culture requires treating each other with respect, but all too often, the openly rude high performer is privately disciplined, but keeps getting more and better projects.” 
 
 -Jocelyn Goldfein, Culture is the behaviours you reward and punish Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 23. 46% of men in one survey of almost 1500 men would try to directly interrupt a sexist event in their workplace. Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 24. Interrupting Sexism? Climate of Silence 
 A culture in which employees feel restrained from speaking about organisational or work- related problems, concerns, or challenges. Combative Culture 
 A hyper-competitive workplace culture where value is attributed to a quest to dominate others and compete over power, authority, and status. Climate of Futility 
 An environment that creates the sense that efforts to make change will not matter or have desired impact. Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 25. Have you ever seen or heard something sexist at work?
  • 26. What did you do about it?
  • 27. Values based decision making Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 28. Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack blossomat.work 
 @Intentionaut 
 hello.saielle@icloud.com
  • 29. Use decision making principles to help others align with the future you want to build Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 30. Culture 
 Add Culture 
 Fit > Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 32. Learners Perfectly qualified > Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 33. Product & Design Scrap everything you think you know. Listen to the user. Test. Discard. Test again. 
 
 Listen. Ask more questions. Fine tune. Refine. Clarify at every step. 
 
 Question each and every assumption. Culture & People It’ll sort itself. I’m too busy for that. Scale first, questions later Keep calm, carry on Please keep your hands, feet, and questions inside the dominant paradigm at all times. Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 34. The Hiring Playbook Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 35.
  • 36. Hiring Principles • De fi ne skills based on the most relevant behaviours you need • Look for skill parallels not just the textbook skill • Define your skills VERY clearly with your team • People skills should be based on desired outcomes not personality • Technical skills should be clearly defined and negotiable Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 37. The Scorecard • Speci fi c skills based and behavioural • A mix of technical skills and people skills • Articulated and understood by the whole team • Shared understanding of what the scores look like • Skill weights are established for the role and shared with the panel i.e. • at least a 3/5 on stakeholder management • At least a 2/5 on user research Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 38. The Scorecard Template Skill Description Score Research Presentation and communication shows this person makes research informed design decisions. Their prior work relies on a variety of techniques like interviews, diary studies, jobs to be done, journey maps, and quantitative data with confidence. X/5 Information Architecture Considers content needs in work before interactions. Can break down work into content, objects, and events as needed. Organises interactions around mental models and content needs. X/5 Interaction Design Defines and articulates a problem and aligns with others on it before exploring solutions. Comfortable and confident in challenging decisions and asking questions. Work demonstrates an understanding of how to balance user needs and business needs. X/5 Collaboration Demonstrates examples of involving team in decision making and collaboration throughout product lifecycle. Can illustrate examples of when input from others meant a change of direction. Works to keep pace with the needs of others in the business. X/5 Communication Attentive, empathetic. Focuses on gathering contributions from others. Organizes information to align teams and stakeholders. Has a well developed toolkit of techniques to align diverging opinions. X/5 Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 39. The Process 1st – Screening for culture & values 
 2nd – Technical Interview • Never a take home; no homework • Focused on prior work (exceptions for entry level) • Scripts are focused on prior behaviours over hypotheticals 
 3rd – Balanced Team Interview  • Ways of Working with other roles • Technical skills should be clearly defined and negotiable Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 40. The Advocate Role • Rotating role • Sole job is to push in favour of the candidate • Advocate for balance in discussions • Help the team balance perspectives • Ensure everyone speaks • Judges feedback against written scorecard requirements to check for bias Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 41. The Panel Debrief • A panel of 6 • Quick thumbs up/down at the same time • Everyone has to own their opinion, share feedback and cite specific examples • Minority opinion goes first to avoid groupthink • Feedback is collected for candidates and given to them regardless of offer Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 42. Candidate Debrief • Feedback is collected for candidates and given to them regardless of offer • We ask for feedback from the candidate about the process • How was the process? • Anything we could have done better? • Anything that felt needlessly difficult? Why? • Candidate feedback is distributed to the hiring panel Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 43. Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack blossomat.work 
 @Intentionaut 
 hello.saielle@icloud.com
  • 44. More details & resources for this talk & other work: 
 www.blossomat.work  Thank You blossomat.work 
 @Intentionaut 
 hello.saielle@icloud.com Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack
  • 45. Thank You Gender Stuff Fundraiser blossomat.work 
 @Intentionaut 
 hello.saielle@icloud.com Saielle DaSilva Director of User Experience Design @ Cazoo #CultureStack