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‘That’s What She Said!”

  Myths or Realities?
           Barry Dahl
    Excellence in e-Education
Barry Dahl dot com
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1.   Female, under 40 yrs
2.   Female, 40+ years                                                                 26%
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#1
  Online Courses and
Developmental Education
Data from Lake Superior College
   2009-2010 academic year
“Best Practices”
• NCDE Director, Dr. • During Q & A, he
  Hunter Boylan        was asked to share
• Keynote speech:      examples of good
  “Best Practices in   practice in offering
  Developmental        developmental
  Education.”          courses via online
                       delivery.
His Response?



“There aren’t any!”
He Continued

He went on to say that the
completion rates (or success rates)
in online developmental courses
“are abysmal. Way below the
rates for on-ground courses. ”
#1: Reality or Myth?
      Developmental Courses Cannot
       be Effectively Taught Online

22%    1.Reality
78%    2.Myth
Who Thinks This is True?
50      Less than 5 years
40      Male, under 40 yrs
33.33   5 years or more
18.18   Never taught online
14.29   Female, 40+ years
14.29   Male, 40+ years
Case Study – Lake Superior College
• Developmental Math Sequence – 3 courses
• First taught online during Fall 2002
• As of Spring 2010, a total of 91 online
  sections have been taught.
• MATH 0450 Pre-Algebra
• MATH 0460 Algebra I
• MATH 0470 Algebra II
Case Study – Lake Superior College
• Developmental Writing Sequence – 2 courses
• First taught online during Spring 2004
• As of Spring 2010, a total of 23 online
  sections have been taught.
• ENGL 0450 Writing I
• ENGL 0460 Writing II
Case Study – Lake Superior College
• Developmental Reading Sequence – 2 courses
• First taught online during Spring 2005
• As of Spring 2010, a total of 17 online
  sections have been taught.
• READ 0460 Reading II
AY 2010 Student Completion Results

• 510 students enrolled in online sections
• 2,226 students enrolled in on-ground
  sections

• Course withdrawal rates were identical
  at 15.7% for both groups.
Grades Earned
30%
          LSC Developmental Courses - 2009-2010

25%


20%


15%


10%


5%


0%
      A       B         C        D         F      FN   W

                        Online       On-ground
Passing Grades in These Courses
             Passing Grades in Developmental Courses

                                           67.5%
 70%                                                    66.8%


 65%
                          62.3%
              60.4%

 60%



 55%



 50%
            C or better                   D or better
2009-2010                 Online   On-ground
AY 2010 Results
• More A’s were given in online courses:
  – 25.1% online
  – 21.3% on-ground
• More F’s were given in on-ground courses:
  – 17.5% on-ground
  – 16.8% online
• GPA in these courses:
  – 2.37 for online
  – 2.31 for on-ground.
My Retort

Completion rates (or success
rates) in online developmental
courses “are no more abysmal
than and NOT way below the rates
for on-ground courses. ”
Discussion Time

Online Courses and
 Developmental
    Education
#2
 Anyone
 Anytime
Anywhere
#2: Reality or Myth?
  Online learning enables Anyone,
   Anytime, Anywhere Learning

38%   1.Reality
63%   2.Myth
Internet Access at LSC for
     Online Students
100%
90%
80%                       95%
70%
60%
50%
40%
30%
             5%
20%
10%
 0%

       Slow-speed   High-Speed
Internet Access at LSC for
     Online Students
100%
90%
80%                       95%
70%
60%
50%
40%
30%
             5%
20%
10%
 0%

       Slow-speed   High-Speed
So
Not
 Just
Anyone
Course Syllabus
• You MUST be online Tuesday
  nights for live chat from 7:00 to
  8:30.
                  “But I work
              Tuesday nights. If I
              can’t work, I can’t
                afford to go to
                   school.”
So
Not
  Just
Anytime
Course Syllabus
    • Exams are open Monday
      nights from 7:00 to 9:00.

  “But your exams
                     No Makeups!
 don’t work on my
mobile phone – the
   only way I can
connect on Monday
      nights.”
So
Not
  Just
Anywhere
Discussion Time

How Flexible are Your
  Online Classes?
#3
 How satisfied are online
students with their college
      experiences?
#3: Reality or Myth?
       Online Students are Less
      Satisfied with Their College
              Experiences
19%   1.Reality
81%   2.Myth
Who said Reality?
40      Male, under 40 yrs
27.27   5 years or more
25      Female, under 40 yrs
16.67   Taught 1 or 2 courses
8.33    Female, 40+ years
Option 1 - PSOL
Why PSOL?
PSOL Basics
There are 72 questions that comprise the PSOL.
Average completion time is 15 minutes.
26 Priorities statements (can add 10)
7 Information sources about school/program
11 Factors to enroll in the program
3 Overall satisfaction questions
14 Demographics questions (can add 1)
NOTE: questions are answered on a 7-point Likert scale, where 7 is high.
                                                                           40
The Importance of Importance
That’s all good,

    but…….
Are online students, as a
group, more satisfied than
 the on-campus students?
NOTE: SSI is the Noel-Levitz Survey for on-ground learners, PSOL is the Noel-
                                                                           44
Levitz survey for online learners.
NOTE: SSI is the Noel-Levitz Survey for on-ground learners, PSOL is the Noel-
                                                                           45
Levitz survey for online learners.
Discussion Time

Online Student
 Satisfaction
#4
     Two groups you
     hear a lot about:

     1. Digital Natives

2. Non-Traditional Students
#4: Reality or Myth?
          Digital Natives are Very
      Different from Non-traditional
                  Students.
41%   1.Reality
59%   2.Myth
Generations
Digital Natives
Net Generation
Next Generation
Nexters
Texters
Generation Y
Generation Why
Millennials
Generation Now
iGeneration
Echo Boomers
Google
Generation
Nintendo
Generation
Trophy
Generation
Screenagers
That’s Crazy Talk.
Let’s consolidate.
Digital
Net-Gennials
Whose problem
   is that?

 They have very few technology
  skills that we expect them to
    use in higher education.
Name this Device
Non-Traditional
  Students

Special Needs?
More crazy talk.
Let’s compare.
Conflicting Cottage Industries
• “Digital Net-Gennials” are loosely defined
  as being born from 1980 (or ‘82) to 2000.
• So, many of this “group” are between 25
  and 30 years old.
• “Non-traditional” age students are
  usually defined as being 25 years and
  older.
So, which is it?
Treat them as
Digital Natives?
      or as
  Non-Trads?
Discussion Time

Digital Natives and
 Non-Traditional
     Students
#5
Sense of Community
 for Online Learners
#5: Reality or Myth?
      It is Important to Develop a
           Sense of Community
            for Online Learners
81%   1.Reality
19%   2.Myth
Why?
7
      PSOL – Importance Scores on 36 Items
         Importance Scale - PSOL
6.5


 6


5.5


 5


4.5


 4
Discussion Time

Sense of Community
 for Online Learners
#6

Online Course Cheating
#6: Reality or Myth?
      Cheating is Rampant Among
            Online Learners

41%   1.Reality
59%   2.Myth
Who Says Cheating is Rampant?
58.33     Female, 40+ years
54.55     Never taught online
50        Taught 1 or 2 courses
37.5      Male, 40+ years
33.33     Female, under 40 yrs
33.33     5 years or more
20        Male, under 40 yrs
Rampant Cheating?


Really? Prove it!
Discussion Time

Student Cheating
#7

Online Faculty Workload
#7: Reality or Myth?

      Online Faculty Work Harder

72%   1.Reality
28%   2.Myth
Guess Who Agrees with This
83.33   Female, 40+ years
80      Male, under 40 yrs
78.57   5 years or more
66.67   Female, under 40 yrs
66.67   Never taught online
62.5    Male, 40+ years
60      Taught 1 or 2 courses
50      Less than 5 years
Online faculty …
         Are they the busiest bees?
Discussion Time

  Hard Work
#8
Some things just
cannot be taught
    online
#8: Reality or Myth?
      Public Speaking Just Cannot
           be Taught Online.

19%   1.Reality
81%   2.Myth
Public
        Speaking
You can’t effectively teach
         Physical
       Interpersonal
        Education online.
  Communication
          STEM
         Courses
     Developmental
           Ed
“On-Ground?”

Maybe some things
shouldn’t be taught
 in the classroom
Discussion Time

What can and can’t be
  taught online?
#9
    Larger rates of non-
 completion indicates that
online learning is inferior to
  F2F classroom learning.
#9: Reality or Myth?

     Larger rates of non-completion =
       inferiority of online learning.

0%     1.Reality
100%   2.Myth
Discussion Time

Should we expect non-
completion rates to be
       equal?
#10
These young people today are
     great multi-taskers
#10: Reality or Myth?

  The human brain can multi-task.

34%   1.Reality
66%   2.Myth
Most Correct Answers?
100     Male, under 40 yrs
78.57   5 years or more
72.73   Female, 40+ years
66.67   Never taught online
62.5    Male, 40+ years
50      Less than 5 years
40      Taught 1 or 2 courses
WRONG!
   Multi-tasking is a Myth
• Great Book
• Brain Rules,
  by Dr. John
  Medina
Discussion Time

What the brain can
 and cannot do
‘That’s What She Said!”

  Myths or Realities?
           Barry Dahl
    Excellence in e-Education

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