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“They’re Taking Our Jobs”
How disinformation and lies drive the
immigration debate and what you can do
about it

Todd Landfried
Arizona Employers for Immigration Reform
Presented at the Unitarian Universalist General Assembly
June 21, 2012 in Phoenix, Arizona




                                                           1
“It's not what you don't know that
gets you into trouble. It's what you
know for sure that just ain't so.”
                               Mark Twain




                                            2
How’d We Get In This Mess?
 Partisanship, ideology and fear raise emotions

 Myths, distortions and outright lies frame the issue

 Rhetoric makes scapegoats of government, employers and
 workers, and families, intimidating them into silence

 Polarizes people on moral, ethnic and economic grounds

 Created a “third-rail” issue where any disagreement is attacked
 and solutions are pushed aside




                                                                   3
“A salient characteristic of the
current debate on U.S.
immigration policy is the high
ratio of hot air to data.”
                           Dr. Douglas Massey
                Co-director, Mexican Migration Project
                                  Princeton University
                              mmp.opr.princeton.edu



                                                         4
Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12   5
“A lie gets halfway around the world
before the truth gets its boots on.”
                   Charles Haddon Spurgeon
                            19th Century Minister




                                                    6
Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 3/14/12   7
PolitiFact Immigration Checks
       Pants On                            Mostly                    Mostly
                          FALSE                          Half True            TRUE
         Fire                              False                      True
             19              56               33               41      31      23

           9.4%            27.6%           16.3%             20.25   15.3%    11.3%

                                      Wrong 88.7%                             11.3%




Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 203                    8
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Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 1/18/12. N = 203   9
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Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 1/18/12. N = 203   9
AZ FactCheck: Immigration
                             Mostly         Somewhat False
         FALSE                              Somewhat True          Mostly True   TRUE
                             False
            29                   4                  8                  4          4

          59.2%               8.2%               16.3%                8.2%       8.2%

                                  Wrong 91.8%                                    8.2%




Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49                        10
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Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49   11
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Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49   11
“The greatest threat to democracy
is having a public that thinks it is
fully informed, but really isn’t very
well informed at all.”
                                 Linda Foley




                                               12
Birthright Fallacy
      U.S. Citizen
                        Spouse              3 years

                 Minor Child                        7 years

                         Sibling                                     22 years
     Citizen Child
                       Parents                     Ineligible        Penalty        Wait   38 years

                       Siblings                    Ineligible        Penalty        Wait               53 years
                                   0          6        12       18   24        30     36   42   48    54   60
                                                                          Years
Source: U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service


                                                                     13
Economic Fallacies
Unauthorized       Claim        Reality   Difference

 Education Costs   $810M        $379M      +214%


  Health Costs     $400M         $24M      +1,600%


  Tax Payments     $257M        $2.84B     -1,100%




                           14
Crime Fallacies
      Unauthorized                  Claim               Reality   Difference

     % in Federal Prison              35%                17.5%     +200%

      % in AZ Prisons*                33%                13.2%     +240%

         Hate Crime
                               Not a problem             +68%      +6,800%
       Increase ‘07-’10

        Identity Theft               100%                0.9%      -99.1%




* Includes green card and undocumented prisoners

                                                   15
1,592

Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Introduced Bill   16
162

Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Approved   17
10%

Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Approved   18
90%

Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Failed   19
90%  I L
                                        F A
Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Failed   19
30

Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycats Introduced   20
5

Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycats Passed   21
16%

Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Passed   22
84%

Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Failed   23
84%  I L
                                       F A
Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Failed   23
Been There, Done That
 Restrictive immigration laws are not new to our country

    Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, The Gentleman’s Agreement of 1907, The
    Immigration Act of 1924, and Bracero Program of 1942

 Since 2007, restrictive laws have regained favor:

    All started with one elected or community member with an ax to grind

    All relied upon the same bad data we’ve just discussed

 So, how’s that been working out?




                                                                            24
A Disastrous Record of Failure
 Prince William County, VA (2007) - $14.9M to train & enforce
 county officers, increase property tax rate by $0.15/$1,000;
 foreclosure rate 3X regional rate; business closures up 45%

 Farmer’s Branch, TX (2007) - $3.2M for lawyers, $5M in settlement
 fees, increased vacancy rates, lower property values, businesses
 closed

 Hazelton, PA (2007) - $1M for lawyers, $2.4M in settlement fees,
 increased foreclosure and vacancy rates, lower property values,
 businesses closed
A Disastrous Record of Failure
                Oklahoma Taxpayer & Citizen Protection Act (2007) - Oklahoma
                Bankers Association study found the loss of 90,000 unauthorized
                workers/families resulted in net Gross State Product loss of $1.9B

                   Urban Institute found negligible impact on savings on public services
                   from departure of the undocumented because by law they’re ineligible
                   for those benefits in the first place




Source: A Computable General Equilibrium (CGE) Analysis of the Impact of the Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act of 2007
A Disastrous Record of Failure
 Arizona “Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods
 Act” - SB1070 (2010)

  $5M+ to train law enforcement

  $186M in near-term convention and related tourism losses

  $14.4B loss in Arizona GSP with departure of 30% undocumented
  workers and families; $48.4B if they all leave

  172,000 related job losses

  $40.7M loss in state tax revenues
Sound Good?
✓Shrinking workforce
✓Significant population loss
✓Significantly fewer consumers
✓Business layoffs & closures
✓Broad tax base decline
✓Foreclosures up, values down
✓Damage to business climate
✓Loss of investment interest
They Did It
Anyway
Alabama
Indiana
Georgia
South Carolina
Utah
Georgia’s HB 87
 Ignoring previous failures, Gov. Deal signed it on May 12, 2011

 Georgia felt the impact within days

  Farmers lost field workers during prime spring harvest season and the
  state’s Farm Bureau projected immediate losses at $330M

  Gov. Deal called for impact study 14 days AFTER the law was passed

  “Pilot” probationer employment program for agriculture failed
  miserably: needed 11,000 and 14 showed up and seven remained a
  week later
GA Governor: Use Prison Labor
How many support giving prison laborers this knife?




                          12”
Alabama’s HB 56
 Ignoring previous failures, Gov. Bentley signed it on June 9, 2011

 Alabama felt the impact within days

  Construction industry stalled as workers leave, slowing down
  rebuilding process following spring tornado storms

  Long-term growers of crops that are hand-picked are switching to
  crops that can be mechanized

  Recent study show community tax receipts are down so low in
  agricultural communities, they are considering cutting services
Quiz
 Doing the same thing over and over and
 expecting a different result is the definition of...



           INSANITY
“Attrition” Laws Don’t Work
 Local and state immigration laws have not worked anywhere

 No study exists that shows positive impacts of any local or state-
 level immigration law

 All studies show negative economic and social consequences

 Successful Russell Pearce recall shows sensible immigration
 reform can be a winning campaign issue

 Federal reform cannot occur without state and local pressure
Your Take-aways
 Bad data = bad policy = bad outcomes

 Misinformation, distortions, half-truths, lies and fear are driving the
 debate and are justifying extreme and exaggerated actions

 Arizona’s approach has been tried before and failed everywhere

 Demand better solutions - our economic future depends on it

 Encourage others to get informed, involved and say enough!
Getting Involved Works!
 The approach of building coalitions, public education, proactive
 media use, legislative interaction and speaking out works

  Utah - - SB1070 copycat bill DEFEATED

  Kansas - SB1070 copycat bills DEFEATED TWICE

  Texas - 108 immigration bills DEFEATED

  Arizona - follow-on immigration bills DEFEATED
What You Must Do
 Stop believing everything you hear - 9 times out of 10 it’s wrong

 Stop remaining silent - demand changes to bad laws

  Business, faith, legal, and community leaders must speak out
  together

 Start publicly challenging false statements and claims

 Start demanding state and federal candidates talk about their
 solutions and demand specific timelines for action
Thank You
Todd Landfried
Arizona Employers for Immigration Reform
Email: todd@azeir.org

www.azeir.org

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"They're Taking Our Jobs"

  • 1. “They’re Taking Our Jobs” How disinformation and lies drive the immigration debate and what you can do about it Todd Landfried Arizona Employers for Immigration Reform Presented at the Unitarian Universalist General Assembly June 21, 2012 in Phoenix, Arizona 1
  • 2. “It's not what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.” Mark Twain 2
  • 3. How’d We Get In This Mess? Partisanship, ideology and fear raise emotions Myths, distortions and outright lies frame the issue Rhetoric makes scapegoats of government, employers and workers, and families, intimidating them into silence Polarizes people on moral, ethnic and economic grounds Created a “third-rail” issue where any disagreement is attacked and solutions are pushed aside 3
  • 4. “A salient characteristic of the current debate on U.S. immigration policy is the high ratio of hot air to data.” Dr. Douglas Massey Co-director, Mexican Migration Project Princeton University mmp.opr.princeton.edu 4
  • 5. Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12 5
  • 6. “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on.” Charles Haddon Spurgeon 19th Century Minister 6
  • 7. Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 3/14/12 7
  • 8. PolitiFact Immigration Checks Pants On Mostly Mostly FALSE Half True TRUE Fire False True 19 56 33 41 31 23 9.4% 27.6% 16.3% 20.25 15.3% 11.3% Wrong 88.7% 11.3% Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 203 8
  • 9. 9 out of 10 Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 1/18/12. N = 203 9
  • 10. g 9 out on 10 of W r Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 1/18/12. N = 203 9
  • 11. AZ FactCheck: Immigration Mostly Somewhat False FALSE Somewhat True Mostly True TRUE False 29 4 8 4 4 59.2% 8.2% 16.3% 8.2% 8.2% Wrong 91.8% 8.2% Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49 10
  • 12. 9 out of 10 Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49 11
  • 13. g 9 out on 10 of W r Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49 11
  • 14. “The greatest threat to democracy is having a public that thinks it is fully informed, but really isn’t very well informed at all.” Linda Foley 12
  • 15. Birthright Fallacy U.S. Citizen Spouse 3 years Minor Child 7 years Sibling 22 years Citizen Child Parents Ineligible Penalty Wait 38 years Siblings Ineligible Penalty Wait 53 years 0 6 12 18 24 30 36 42 48 54 60 Years Source: U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service 13
  • 16. Economic Fallacies Unauthorized Claim Reality Difference Education Costs $810M $379M +214% Health Costs $400M $24M +1,600% Tax Payments $257M $2.84B -1,100% 14
  • 17. Crime Fallacies Unauthorized Claim Reality Difference % in Federal Prison 35% 17.5% +200% % in AZ Prisons* 33% 13.2% +240% Hate Crime Not a problem +68% +6,800% Increase ‘07-’10 Identity Theft 100% 0.9% -99.1% * Includes green card and undocumented prisoners 15
  • 18. 1,592 Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Introduced Bill 16
  • 19. 162 Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Approved 17
  • 20. 10% Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Approved 18
  • 21. 90% Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Failed 19
  • 22. 90% I L F A Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Failed 19
  • 23. 30 Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycats Introduced 20
  • 24. 5 Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycats Passed 21
  • 25. 16% Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Passed 22
  • 26. 84% Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Failed 23
  • 27. 84% I L F A Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Failed 23
  • 28. Been There, Done That Restrictive immigration laws are not new to our country Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, The Gentleman’s Agreement of 1907, The Immigration Act of 1924, and Bracero Program of 1942 Since 2007, restrictive laws have regained favor: All started with one elected or community member with an ax to grind All relied upon the same bad data we’ve just discussed So, how’s that been working out? 24
  • 29. A Disastrous Record of Failure Prince William County, VA (2007) - $14.9M to train & enforce county officers, increase property tax rate by $0.15/$1,000; foreclosure rate 3X regional rate; business closures up 45% Farmer’s Branch, TX (2007) - $3.2M for lawyers, $5M in settlement fees, increased vacancy rates, lower property values, businesses closed Hazelton, PA (2007) - $1M for lawyers, $2.4M in settlement fees, increased foreclosure and vacancy rates, lower property values, businesses closed
  • 30. A Disastrous Record of Failure Oklahoma Taxpayer & Citizen Protection Act (2007) - Oklahoma Bankers Association study found the loss of 90,000 unauthorized workers/families resulted in net Gross State Product loss of $1.9B Urban Institute found negligible impact on savings on public services from departure of the undocumented because by law they’re ineligible for those benefits in the first place Source: A Computable General Equilibrium (CGE) Analysis of the Impact of the Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act of 2007
  • 31. A Disastrous Record of Failure Arizona “Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act” - SB1070 (2010) $5M+ to train law enforcement $186M in near-term convention and related tourism losses $14.4B loss in Arizona GSP with departure of 30% undocumented workers and families; $48.4B if they all leave 172,000 related job losses $40.7M loss in state tax revenues
  • 32. Sound Good? ✓Shrinking workforce ✓Significant population loss ✓Significantly fewer consumers ✓Business layoffs & closures ✓Broad tax base decline ✓Foreclosures up, values down ✓Damage to business climate ✓Loss of investment interest
  • 34. Georgia’s HB 87 Ignoring previous failures, Gov. Deal signed it on May 12, 2011 Georgia felt the impact within days Farmers lost field workers during prime spring harvest season and the state’s Farm Bureau projected immediate losses at $330M Gov. Deal called for impact study 14 days AFTER the law was passed “Pilot” probationer employment program for agriculture failed miserably: needed 11,000 and 14 showed up and seven remained a week later
  • 35. GA Governor: Use Prison Labor How many support giving prison laborers this knife? 12”
  • 36. Alabama’s HB 56 Ignoring previous failures, Gov. Bentley signed it on June 9, 2011 Alabama felt the impact within days Construction industry stalled as workers leave, slowing down rebuilding process following spring tornado storms Long-term growers of crops that are hand-picked are switching to crops that can be mechanized Recent study show community tax receipts are down so low in agricultural communities, they are considering cutting services
  • 37. Quiz Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of... INSANITY
  • 38. “Attrition” Laws Don’t Work Local and state immigration laws have not worked anywhere No study exists that shows positive impacts of any local or state- level immigration law All studies show negative economic and social consequences Successful Russell Pearce recall shows sensible immigration reform can be a winning campaign issue Federal reform cannot occur without state and local pressure
  • 39. Your Take-aways Bad data = bad policy = bad outcomes Misinformation, distortions, half-truths, lies and fear are driving the debate and are justifying extreme and exaggerated actions Arizona’s approach has been tried before and failed everywhere Demand better solutions - our economic future depends on it Encourage others to get informed, involved and say enough!
  • 40. Getting Involved Works! The approach of building coalitions, public education, proactive media use, legislative interaction and speaking out works Utah - - SB1070 copycat bill DEFEATED Kansas - SB1070 copycat bills DEFEATED TWICE Texas - 108 immigration bills DEFEATED Arizona - follow-on immigration bills DEFEATED
  • 41. What You Must Do Stop believing everything you hear - 9 times out of 10 it’s wrong Stop remaining silent - demand changes to bad laws Business, faith, legal, and community leaders must speak out together Start publicly challenging false statements and claims Start demanding state and federal candidates talk about their solutions and demand specific timelines for action
  • 42. Thank You Todd Landfried Arizona Employers for Immigration Reform Email: todd@azeir.org www.azeir.org

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  17. An estimated 14,748 persons were murdered nationwide in 2010. If the undocumented committed 9,000 of them, that means they committed 61% of the crime. Yeah, sure.\n\nThis was a 4.2 percent decrease from the 2009 estimate, a 14.8 percent decrease from the 2006 figure, and an 8.0 percent decrease from the 2001 estimate. \n
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  26. Does anyone watch lawyer shows on TV? What do they say in the courtroom when they swear someone in as a witness? They swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The DON’T swear to tell the truth, most of the truth or half of the truth.\n
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  30. The greatest threat to Democracy is having a public that thinks it is fully informed, but really isn’t very well informed at all. Too often in this digital age, we jump right to the debate without having the facts. We need good, quality journalism so we the citizens of the United States, who live in a very complex world are able to say “These are the facts. I know what the facts are and I’m going to make my decision as an informed citizen.”\n\nThree things you need to know about this presentation\nParty and ideology have nothing to do with this presentation. It’s only intent is to present facts. \nIt’s purpose is to challenge false beliefs and preconceived notions.\nThe information presented herein are based on verifiable public data obtained from recognized sources with sources listed at the bottom of each slide.\n
  31. EXAMPLE #1: The Birthright Fallacy\n\n1. Bringing in a Spouse, of a US citizen: This is the fastest possible way to become a U.S. citizen - 3 years\n2. Bringing in minor child or parent: This process depends on whether the child is a minor or not, single or married. Minor children can file for green cards immediately, but cannot apply for citizenship status for an additional five years.\n3. Single or adult children and siblings can apply immediately, but the wait times depend on the country of origin and annual limits set by Congress. Typically, the wait is 11-22 years.\n\nNo U.S. citizen can "sponsor" someone to become a U.S. Citizen until they reach the age of 21. The suggestion that U.S. children of undocumented parents can somehow speed up their parent's entry into the country legally is without merit. The shortest amount of time it would take would be 38 years, but likely never. For siblings, it's even worse, taking up to 53 years.\n
  32. Example #5 - Jobs fallacy\n\nThese next two slides tell an amazing tale. We’re told to believe that wherever there are immigrant workers, there is high unemployment. These maps shows that simply isn’t the case. \n
  33. http://www.dol.ks.gov/LMIS/newsrel/pr1013/map.html\n\nThe other question this begs is what happens to those jobs in the processing plants if ill-conceived immigration laws are passed? What the business owners are telling the legislature and their trade associations, is they will close the plants and move them to where they can get the labor, most likely Mexico. So what impact with THAT decision have on the Kansas economy?\n
  34. EXAMPLE #4: How exaggerating data distorts public perceptions of the problem.\n\nThis table highlights some of the more egregious falsehoods told on a daily basis about immigrants in Arizona. The data for Texas is similar, but all highlight the problems of rhetoric of "hot air."\n\nPrison population data: http://www.azcorrections.gov/adc/reports/Zoya_ethnic.aspx\nEducation costs data: Estimates based on larger estimate of http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ois_ill_pe_2010.pdf or http://www.migrationinformation.org/DataHub/charts/MPIDataHub-Children-in-immigrant-families.xls (12.2% or 61,507 undocumented population <=17 yrs x $6,170 = $379,498,190)\nHealth care costs data: Illegal Immigration: Perceptions and Realities, ASU Morrison Inst.\nTax Payments data: “A Rising Tide or a Shrinking Pie,” CAP, http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/rising-tide-or-shrinking-pie \n\n\n
  35. EXAMPLE #4 continued: How exaggerating data distorts public perceptions of the problem.\n\nCrime statistics claims don’t match up with reality.\n\nFederal Prison data: http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#2 \nAZ Prison data: http://www.azcorrections.gov/adc/reports/Zoya_ethnic.aspx\nViolent crime data: http://www.azdps.gov/About/Reports/Crime_In_Arizona/\nHate crime data: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr#hate\nID Theft data: http://www.adc.state.az.us/BudgetHearings2012.pdf\n
  36. The number of immigration-related bills introduced in 2011\n
  37. The number of immigration-related bills passed in 2011\n
  38. The success rate of immigration-related bills passed in 2011\n
  39. The percentage of immigration-related bills failed in 2011.\n
  40. The number of Arizona-style SB1070 copycat bills introduced in 2011\n
  41. The number of Arizona-style SB1070 copycat bills passed in 2011\n
  42. The percentage of Arizona-style SB1070 copycat bills passed in 2011\n
  43. The percentage of Arizona-style SB1070 copycat bills failing in 2011\n
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  45. SB1070 has had a brutal impact on Arizona’s economy already, but what would happen if all aspects of SB1070 were passed into law? \n\nSuffice it to say, the economic and jobs damage would be enormous. If SB1070 is fully implemented, the impacts on Arizona’s economy would be worse than during the last recession by doubling the numbers of lost jobs (275,000 to 581,000) and reducing Gross State Product by $48.8B and tax revenues by $4.2B. \n\nThere has to be a better way and there are better ways. What’s important is that you hear about them.\n\nSource: http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/03/rising_tide.html \n
  46. Farmer’s Branch - http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/carrollton-farmers-branch/headlines/20100409-Farmers-Branch-legal-costs-rise-in-2968.ece\n\nHazelton: http://standardspeaker.com/news/city-loses-appeal-on-who-pays-plaintiffs-1.1060539\n\n\n
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