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Thinking more product:
Moving from Scrum to a dual-
track agile approach
@suzehaworth
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A bit about me…
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@suzehaworth
How did software
projects run?
PMI
A project is temporary in that it has a defined
beginning and end in time, and therefore defined
scope and resources.
A project
A project
Here’s that
magic point
where
everything ends
A project
Here’s that
magic point
where
everything ends
…said
no-one,
ever
FORGET
PROJECTS
What about Agile?
Waterfall vs Agile
FORGET
AGILE
THERE ARE BASIC
PRINCIPLES
OF GOOD PRODUCT DELIVERY
#1
CUSTOMER FIRST
Feedback and iterate
Value getting working designs, prototypes or
software over defining requirements upfront
Prioritise the customer and the outcomes
CUSTOMER FIRST
FREQUENT DELIVERY
#2
Iterative development
Deliver a working product quickly to the customer
Team and customers working together to
make adjustments
FREQUENT DELIVERY
TEAM COLLABORATION
#3
Key to making your project work and
building a better product
Don’t rely on documentation to define
requirements and share knowledge
Your client is part of the team too!
Face to face communication and shared decisions
TEAM COLLABORATION
1. Individuals and
interactions over processes
and tools

2. Working software over
comprehensive documentation

3. Customer collaboration over
contract negotiation

4. Responding to change over
following a plan
TEAM 

COLLABORATION
CUSTOMER 

FIRST
FREQUENT 

DELIVERY
AGILE
LEAN
1. Focus on customers

2. Optimise the whole

3. Elimate waste

4. Learn first

5. Deliver fast

6. Keep getting better

7. Energise workers
TEAM 

COLLABORATION
CUSTOMER 

FIRST
FREQUENT 

DELIVERY
SETTING THE
SCENE
1
B O O K A N 

A P P O I N T M E N T
C O N T A C T
L E N S 

E C O M M E R C E
V I R T U A L 

T E C H
G L A S S E S 

E C O M M E R C E
1 2 3 4
4 x product streams
D E V E L O P M E N T A G E N C Y
O U R A G E N C Y
C L I E N T
Product Owner
UX & design pair
Development & QA
CARRY OUT
THE PLAN
31 2 4
DEVISE
A PLAN
LOOK
BACK
UNDERSTAND
THE PROBLEM
UNDERSTAND THE
PROBLEM
1
WITH SCRUM
UNDERSTAND THE
PROBLEM
2
UNDERSTAND THE
WITH SCRUM
PROBLEM
Don’t blame
the framework!
So what did we know?
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
NO CUSTOMER
TESTING PRIOR

TO RELEASE
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
SPRINT
RELEASES
NOT
HAPPENING
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
NO CUSTOMER
TESTING PRIOR

TO RELEASE
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
SPRINT
RELEASES
NOT
HAPPENING
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
TOO MANY
STORIES IN

EACH SPRINT
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
NO CUSTOMER
TESTING PRIOR

TO RELEASE
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
SPRINT
RELEASES
NOT
HAPPENING
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
TOO MANY
STORIES IN

EACH SPRINT
WORK NOT

GETTING

BUILT
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
NO CUSTOMER
TESTING PRIOR

TO RELEASE
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
SPRINT
RELEASES
NOT
HAPPENING
NOT WORKING
AS A TEAM
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
TOO MANY
STORIES IN

EACH SPRINT
WORK NOT

GETTING

BUILT
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
NO CUSTOMER
TESTING PRIOR

TO RELEASE
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
SPRINT
RELEASES
NOT
HAPPENING
NOT WORKING
AS A TEAM
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
TOO MANY
STORIES IN

EACH SPRINT
SILOED
PRODUCT
SCRUM
TEAMS
WORK NOT

GETTING

BUILT
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
NO CUSTOMER
TESTING PRIOR

TO RELEASE
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
SPRINT
RELEASES
NOT
HAPPENING
NOT WORKING
AS A TEAM
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
TOO MANY
STORIES IN

EACH SPRINT
SILOED
PRODUCT
SCRUM
TEAMS
NOT INVOLVED
IN DECISIONS
WORK NOT

GETTING

BUILT
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
NO CUSTOMER
TESTING PRIOR

TO RELEASE
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
REQUIREMENTS
DEFINED
BY PRODUCT
OWNER
SPRINT
RELEASES
NOT
HAPPENING
NOT WORKING
AS A TEAM
PRODUCT
DEFINED
BY TECH
TOO MANY
STORIES IN

EACH SPRINT
SILOED
PRODUCT
SCRUM
TEAMS
NOT INVOLVED
IN DECISIONS
WORK NOT

GETTING

BUILT
‘FEATURE
FACTORY’
NO CUSTOMER
TESTING PRIOR

TO RELEASE
GETTING
TOLD
WHAT TO
DESIGN
CUSTOMER
FIRST
FREQUENT
DELIVERY
TEAM
COLLABORATION
1. We needed to focus on the core
principles
2. We needed to work towards
building a better product for
customers
1. We needed to focus on the core
principles
DEVISE A
PLAN
2
2
Product
discovery
+
Dual-track agile
PRODUCT
DISCOVERY
Discover and test that
what you are building is
what the customer needs
Deliver what your customer
needs… rather than what
you (or they!) think they want
HOW DID WE MAP
THE PROCESS?
E X I S T I N G 

D A T A & 

R E S E A R C H 

I N S I G H T S
1
GATHERING
DATA & INSIGHTS
Analytics
Existing research
Competitor research
Focus groups
E X I S T I N G 

D A T A & 

R E S E A R C H 

I N S I G H T S
1 2
T H E
P R O B L E M
S T A T E M E N T
THE PROBLEM
STATEMENT
Focus on the problem you are trying to
solve and a measurable outcome…
don’t just jump straight to the solution
Problem statements
value outcomes over
outputs
“If I had an hour to solve a problem I’d
spend 55 minutes thinking about the problem
and 5 minutes thinking about solutions.”
Albert Einstein
How might we [action] so that [benefit]?
How might we make prescription entry more
simple so that customers can complete contact
lenses purchases more easily?
E X I S T I N G 

D A T A & 

R E S E A R C H 

I N S I G H T S
1 2 3
A S S U M P T I O N S
T H E
P R O B L E M
S T A T E M E N T
MAKE
ASSUMPTIONS
A declaration that is
assumed to be true
Our customers have a need to:
These needs can be solved with:
What problems does our product solve?
When and how is our product used?
What features are important?
How should our product look and behave?
We will solve this through:
We need to separate out the prescription
and delivery in the journey to cause less
confusion and ease the pain point
We should provide customers with the ability
to express reorder based on their last
purchase, to save them refilling in their
prescription
E X I S T I N G 

D A T A & 

R E S E A R C H 

I N S I G H T S
H Y P O T H E S E S
1 2 3 4
A S S U M P T I O N S
T H E
P R O B L E M
S T A T E M E N T
DEVELOP
HYPOTHESES
We believe that [doing / building / creating this]
For [this user / persona]
Will achieve [this outcome]
We’ll know we’re right when we see [this
signal / metric]
We believe that separating the prescription and
delivery
For contact lens purchasers
Will achieve a decrease in drop-off at this point
in the journey
We’ll know we’re right when we see more
customers completing the prescription step
U X / D E S I G N
5
U X / D E S I G N P R O T O T Y P E
5 6
DEVELOPING
PROTOTYPES
Static
Gauge reactions to
concepts / propositions
Test short journeys and
simple goals
e.g. Invision
Low fidelity
Interactive
Get input on experience / 

mechanics of a journey
Test new products/features, 

look & feel & motion
principles
e.g Principle
Medium fidelity
Live
Gauge reactions to true 

functionality of full scenarios
Test look & feel & complex
interactions
e.g HTML prototype
High fidelity
U X / D E S I G N P R O T O T Y P E T E S T
5 6 7
TALKING TO
CUSTOMERS
Face to face interviews
Guerrilla testing
Online testing
Surveys
U X / D E S I G N P R O T O T Y P E T E S T I N S I G H T S
I T E R A T E
5 6 7 8
TEST &
ITERATE
1. Validated learning
1. Validated learning
2. Build things customers need
3. Business value
1. Validated learning
2. Build things customers need
3. Business value
1. Validated learning
2. Build things customers need
4. A better backlog
Back to Agile…
Agile doesn’t
have a brain!
How does that fit with a development
team working in Scrum?!
DUAL-TRACK
AGILE
John Ciecholewski
John Ciecholewski
John Ciecholewski
John Ciecholewski
Design thinking
John Ciecholewski
Design thinking Kanban
John Ciecholewski
Design thinking Kanban Lean UX
John Ciecholewski
Design thinking Kanban Lean UX
Scrum
CARRY OUT THE
PLAN
3
Reality
2 Working collaboratively, so as not to
revert to a Waterfall approach
1 Changing mindset: shifting to problems
not solutions, outcomes not outputs
3 Despite different processes, ensuring
ways of working are clear to all
4 Ensuring delivery feedback goes
into the discovery backlog
• Team feel
more
autonomous
People
Process
Product
Outcomes roadmap
• Customer
feedback goes
into backlog
• Less team
churn
• Testing with
customers
• Using a mixture of
prototyping
• PO not defining
requirements
• Improving
key metrics
• Working with
problems and
outcomes
• Development agency
more engaged with
customers
TIPS FOR
IMPLEMENTING
5 core bits of advice….
1. Engage your team
2. Safe environment for failure
3. Inspect and adapt
4. Understand and sell the value
5. Involve everyone
LOOK
BACK
4
✘
1. Still product silos
✘
2. Too little, too late
1. Still product silos
✘
3. A lot of tech debt
2. Too little, too late
1. Still product silos
1. A focus on the customer
✔
2. Less development waste
1. A focus on the customer
✔
3. Better key metrics
2. Less development waste
1. A focus on the customer
✔
3. Better key metrics
2. Less development waste
4. A happier team!
1. A focus on the customer
✔
By thinking about the core principles
around good product delivery you can
make customers and your team happier
=
THANK YOU!
@suzehaworth

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