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202011 のの会@関数Talk 26th functiontalkinnotesknowsworkshop26th
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@ @ -notes knows community-
2020/11/12 阿部 覚 (tw:) @abesat @関数Talk 第26回 公開版
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@ @ 当初そういうつもりだったわけではありませんが 今回は、だいぶ以前…「第3回」の、 つづきと云えるかもしれません
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@ @ @TextToTime で放談
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@ @ エピソード 日付が和暦で並んでいるビュー というわけではなさそうで ▶ ▶平成30 年10月16日 ▶ ▶平成30 年09月23日 ▶ ▶平成29
年04月07日 ▶ ▶平成27 年08月27日 ▶ ▶平成25 年07月24日 私が扱っていた とある業務アプリケーションのデータベースに こんな感じのビューがありました
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@ @ エピソード ▶ ▶平成16 年03月03日 ▶ ▶平成15 年09月28日 ▶ ▶2018/03/12 ▶ ▶2017/08/05 ▶ ▶2017/05/31 ▶ ▶2017/02/06 ▶ ▶2016/11/17 ▶ ▶2016/11/04 和暦の日付は先頭のほうだけで 途中からこんな表示に まあ、むしろこちらの表記のほうが一般的ですね さらに…
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@ @ エピソード ▶ ▶2002/07/30 ▶ ▶2002/03/06 ▶ ▶12/23/2017 ▶ ▶12/02/2016 ▶ ▶11/25/2015 ▶ ▶10/11/2018 ▶ ▶09/13/2017 ▶ ▶09/09/2016 ずっと下のほうへスクロールすると こんな表示も出てまいりました… つまり形式が混在しているために 日付順のビューとしては機能していない、 ちゃんと並んでいない現状
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@ @ エピソード ビューの設計上は、この列は とある承認日フィールドを表示しているだけ フォームを見ると その承認日フィールドはただのテキストで 承認ボタンを押したときのアクションが このフィールドに今日の日付をテキストに変更して セットしていました
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@ @ エピソード 問題は、承認する人の一部に、 OSの日時データ形式を 和暦にしちゃっている人がいたこと、
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@ @ エピソード あるいは外国人社員さんで OSの日時設定を変更…多くは英語形式に 変更されている方がいたことなどでした
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@ @ エピソード 結果として、そうした方たちが承認した文書では 承認日付のフィールドに 和暦や、"月/日/年"の表記が 設定されてしまっていた、という次第です
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@ @ エピソード 私がその業務に入るより以前から 長年放置されていたビューで 利用者もさほどいなかったこともあり、 ずっと静観していましたが あるときふと思い立ち OSの影響とはいえ、 日付をセットしているのは、 そもそもNotesの式やスクリプトだよな だったら…
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@ @ エピソード ビューの列式をこう変えました
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@ @ エピソード ▶ ▶2018/10/16 ▶ ▶2018/10/11 ▶ ▶2018/09/23 ▶ ▶2018/03/12 ▶ ▶2017/12/23 ▶ ▶2017/04/07 ▶ ▶2017/08/05 ▶ ▶2017/05/31 ▶ ▶2017/04/07 直りました
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@ @ 「第3回」のTalkでは、 @Textを使って日時を文字形式に変換する場合の 課題について触れました @Text関数だけでなく、LotusScriptでのText変換でもおなじ ようなことがいえますが いずれ、利用者それぞれの環境・設定の違いによって 前述のビューのような表示の違いが起きえます でも、そんな違いを @TextToTimeで、ある程度は是正できるようです
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@ @ 改めて @TextToTime について 構文は単純で、引数は文字列だけです @TextToTime(
string ) ヘルプでは 「文字列を日時値に変換できる場合は、変換します。」 とありますが どこまで変換可能かは明示されていないので
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@ @ 改めて @TextToTime について "/"
と数字を組み合わせて日付を取得する ":" と数字を組み合わせて時間を取得する あるいはその両方で日時を取得する というのが、一般的な使い方だと思います 👈Excelなどと同様に、年を指定しなければ今年
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@ @ 追加検証 日付に関しては、 「海外での日付の並び順もある程度サポートするらしい」 「和暦の文字列も判別してくれるらしい」 というのを前述のエピソードで認識したわけですが 私の端末で改めてやってみたところ 「海外での日付の並び順」については、まあ予想通り
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@ @ 追加検証 しかし、和暦については… あれ? 平成30年が2030年?
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@ @ 追加検証 すぐ原因に気づきました 私のNotesは英語版で、そもそも和暦が入っていないなと だから昭和も平成も、もちろん令和も認識しない でも、エラーにもならないわけだ
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@ @ 追加検証 そこで、さらに試してみました 元号は認識しないけど、時間表現は認識 これはOS側から情報得られるのかな (Notesは英語版だけどWindowsは日本語版なので…?)
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@ @ 追加検証 全く日時として認識できない文字列でも… 間の数字だけを使って勝手に年月日になった!
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@ @ 追加検証 以上、例によって、ここまでの検証には 実用性はあまりありませんが この関数の性格も、ほの見えたということで✋ 文字列内の数字の箇所が増えると日付というより日時に もちろん日時として適切な数値の範囲内なら、でしょうけど
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@ @ 今回もお付き合い ありがとうございました 😀
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