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Jamie	
  Lawrence,	
  Editor,	
  HRZone	
  
	
  
Paul	
  Barnes,	
  Managing	
  Director,	
  Questback	
  UK	
  
	
  
Ben	
  Kent,	
  Managing	
  Director,	
  Meridian	
  West	
  
	
  
Employee	
  engagement	
  and	
  customer	
  
experience	
  surveys	
  –	
  two	
  sides	
  of	
  the	
  
same	
  coin?	
  
Employee engagement
and customer experience
surveys – two sides of the
same coin?
Paul Barnes
26.11.2014
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Back to the 90’s - The Service Profit Chain
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4
“The way you treat your employees is the way they
will treat your customers”
Richard Branson
PRESENTATION NAME
5
There are only three measurements that tell you
nearly everything you need to know about your
organization’s overall performance: employee
engagement, customer satisfaction, and cash
flow.
Jack Welch
PRESENTATION NAME
6
POLL	
  QUESTION:	
  Does	
  your	
  organisa8on	
  link	
  
employee	
  engagement	
  and	
  customer	
  
experience	
  data?	
  
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So we’re all on top of this…. right?
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Does your organisation combine the data from customer
experience and employee engagement feedback?
5%
Yes, fully integrated
38% 31%
No plans to do so Yes, partly integrated
26%
No, but planning to
within the next 18 months
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The benefits are clear
8
What benefits are you aiming to achieve from combining customer
experience and employee engagement feedback?
Identify ways to improve customer
83%experience
More motivated and engaged employees 75%
Get insight into activities that can link
58%directly to specific business objectives
Link CX feedback to specific
51%employees
Gain greater insight into
49%customer behaviour
Provide a more personalised 44%
service to customers
Reward strongest performing employees 29%
Other 8%
Reduce research costs 7%
	
  
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9
POLL	
  QUESTION	
  
	
  
COMPARISON	
  OF	
  POLL	
  RESULTS	
  
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So what’s holding us back?
10
Are there any specific reasons why you are not planning to
combine customer experience and employee engagement?
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Moving forward – a question of ownership?
11
Who will lead on the combined customer experience and
employee engagement feedback programme?
Other
CEO
5%
Customer service team
5%
7%
14%
HR department
15%
CX/marketing department
External consultancy/agency
2%
29%
A combination of HR and
either customer service or
CX/marketing departments
24%
Central insight function
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12
Final thoughts - everyone benefits
CUSTOMER
Customer experience
issues are identified
more clearly and
resolved through
actionable insight
EMPLOYEE
Real time feedback
from “my” customers
Identifies areas where
support, training and
development will be
valuable
BUSINESS
Capture the voice of
the “non-responder”
Early warning on issues
to support better
decision making
…and back to the
service to profit chain
Thank you
For more information, please
contact
Paul Barnes
paul.barnes@questback.com.
@psbarnes
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www.meridianwest.co.uk	
  
	
  
Employee	
  engagement	
  and	
  
customer	
  experience	
  surveys	
  –	
  two	
  
sides	
  of	
  the	
  same	
  coin?	
  
Kent	
  Blaxill	
  Case	
  Study	
  
Established	
  in	
  1838	
  –	
  the	
  year	
  Victoria	
  was	
  crowned	
  
15	
  
2012	
  the	
  board	
  agrees	
  to	
  do	
  an	
  on-­‐line	
  survey	
  
•  607	
  responses	
  
	
  
•  68%	
  	
  -­‐	
  ‘very	
  good’	
  or	
  
‘outstanding’	
  
16	
  
Gulp!	
  
•  “I	
  have	
  been	
  using	
  Kent	
  Blaxill	
  for	
  at	
  least	
  35	
  
years	
  and	
  have	
  always	
  found	
  them	
  to	
  be	
  brilliant	
  
until	
  the	
  last	
  few	
  years.	
  	
  The	
  helpfulness	
  of	
  staff	
  
has	
  really	
  gone	
  downhill	
  and	
  to	
  get	
  staff	
  to	
  do	
  
anything	
  for	
  you	
  -­‐	
  they	
  have	
  a	
  "can't	
  be	
  
bothered"	
  attitude!	
  	
  I	
  know	
  this	
  is	
  not	
  just	
  my	
  
opinion	
  as	
  many	
  in	
  the	
  business	
  are	
  now	
  going	
  
elsewhere!	
  (Landscaper,	
  Colchester)	
  
17	
  
Staff	
  survey	
  highlights	
  some	
  alarming	
  problems	
  	
  
•  “Staff	
  need	
  to	
  feel	
  part	
  of	
  one	
  
company	
  -­‐	
  not	
  sectioned	
  off	
  
into	
  small	
  departments	
  ....	
  
•  Staff	
  need	
  to	
  be	
  pro-­‐active	
  in	
  
communication	
  and	
  not	
  sit	
  back	
  
thinking	
  'well	
  no	
  one	
  told	
  me'	
  
but	
  actually	
  ask	
  questions	
  and	
  
look	
  interested	
  in	
  what	
  else	
  is	
  
going	
  on?	
  “	
  
18	
  
The	
  board	
  
Colchester	
  
	
  	
   	
  	
  
Bury	
  St	
  
Edmunds	
  
Branches	
  
Ron	
  McConnachie	
  joins	
  	
  
1.	
  Kicks	
  off	
  customer	
  profit	
  analysis	
  and	
  account	
  plan	
  
19	
  
Account	
  
plans	
  
Customer	
  
profit	
  	
  
data	
  
Survey	
  
165 customers followed up by sales reps
Resulted in new sales
£600k of new sales projected for 2014
2.	
  We	
  develop	
  a	
  customer	
  charter	
  –	
  Number	
  1	
  
and	
  committed	
  to	
  repeating	
  research	
  in	
  2014	
  
20	
  
3.	
  We	
  run	
  a	
  workshop	
  of	
  “influencers”	
  to	
  create	
  an	
  
action	
  plan	
  for	
  a	
  more	
  open,	
  performance-­‐driven	
  firm	
  	
  
21	
  
Lots	
  of	
  ideas	
  were	
  shared	
  and	
  this	
  group	
  gave	
  people	
  a	
  chance	
  to	
  be	
  heard.	
  Everyone	
  
thought	
  that	
  this	
  workshop	
  was	
  beneficial	
  and	
  that	
  the	
  invitees	
  should	
  change	
  regularly	
  
to	
  allow	
  new	
  ideas	
  from	
  people	
  who	
  wish	
  to	
  be	
  included.	
  
	
  
Actions	
  
	
  
1. Annually	
  –	
  a	
  presentation	
  to	
  the	
  staff	
  from	
  Simon	
  Blaxill	
  together	
  with	
  a	
  short	
  
presentation	
  from	
  Kevin	
  Sturdy	
  given	
  staff	
  the	
  numbers.	
  
	
  
2. Monthly	
  -­‐	
  short	
  meetings	
  with	
  line	
  managers.	
  All	
  information	
  needs	
  to	
  be	
  cascaded	
  
down	
  to	
  everyone	
  (this	
  to	
  include	
  KPIs)	
  	
  
Andy	
  mc	
  agreed	
  to	
  look	
  at	
  operational	
  KPIs	
  for	
  the	
  different	
  departments.	
  
	
  
3. More	
  walking	
  around	
  the	
  branch	
  by	
  Simon	
  &	
  Ron	
  to	
  get	
  to	
  know	
  staff.	
  
	
  
4. Ben	
  Kent	
  to	
  put	
  together	
  a	
  short	
  version	
  of	
  the	
  customer	
  survey	
  so	
  staff	
  can	
  see	
  
what	
  came	
  back	
  –	
  there	
  is	
  a	
  lot	
  of	
  good	
  information	
  in	
  it	
  and	
  he	
  will	
  make	
  it	
  into	
  a	
  
video	
  for	
  all	
  staff	
  to	
  watch.	
  Quotes	
  from	
  the	
  survey	
  to	
  be	
  used	
  in	
  marketing.	
  
	
  
5. The	
  Customer	
  Charter	
  –	
  Ben	
  &	
  Ron	
  to	
  look	
  at	
  ways	
  of	
  getting	
  this	
  over	
  to	
  all	
  staff.	
  
Possibly	
  presenting	
  it	
  to	
  them	
  in	
  small	
  groups.	
  	
  
4.	
  HR	
  consultants	
  are	
  hired	
  to	
  revamp	
  policies	
  
Customer	
  service	
  training	
  
Revamp	
  
appraisals	
  and	
  
create	
  
competency	
  
frameworks	
  
Internal	
  
communications	
  
strategy	
  eg	
  
posters	
  with	
  our	
  
mission,	
  
newsletter,	
  MD	
  
presentation	
  
22	
  
Ron	
  publicises	
  success	
  stories	
  
Show	
  monetary	
  impact	
  
23	
  
125%	
  increase	
  in	
  timber	
  sales	
  
What	
  a	
  difference	
  a	
  year	
  makes	
  
•  2013	
  
–  Board	
  dominated	
  by	
  	
  
operations	
  and	
  finance	
  
issues	
  
–  Loss	
  making	
  
–  Declining	
  morale	
  
•  2014	
  
–  HR	
  and	
  customer	
  issues	
  
represented	
  on	
  the	
  
board	
  
–  Back	
  into	
  profit.	
  	
  
Revenues	
  up.	
  	
  New	
  
branches.	
  
–  Better	
  morale	
  and	
  
communication	
  
24	
  
Challenging	
  but	
  worthwhile	
  
What	
  worked	
  well	
  
1.  Staff	
  survey	
  
2.  Integrating	
  customer	
  
profitability	
  and	
  survey	
  
data	
  to	
  create	
  account	
  
plans	
  
3.  Customer	
  charter	
  
4.  Celebrating	
  small	
  wins	
  
Where	
  did	
  we	
  struggle	
  
1.  Work	
  on	
  getting	
  real	
  
commitment	
  from	
  the	
  
board	
  took	
  time	
  
2.  It	
  needs	
  consistent	
  face	
  to	
  
face	
  communication	
  from	
  
the	
  management.	
  	
  This	
  is	
  
not	
  just	
  “words”	
  
3.  Maintaining	
  momentum.	
  	
  
It	
  is	
  a	
  journey!	
  	
  Culture	
  
takes	
  a	
  while	
  to	
  change.	
  
25	
  
Meridian	
  West	
  at	
  a	
  glance.	
  	
  
Research,	
  consultancy	
  and	
  training	
  to	
  help	
  firms	
  become	
  more	
  client-­‐focused	
  
and	
  increase	
  their	
  profitability.	
  
We	
  focus	
  on	
  professional	
  and	
  financial	
  services:	
  
•  Where	
  are	
  the	
  biggest	
  growth	
  opportunities	
  
for	
  our	
  firm?	
  
•  I	
  want	
  to	
  launch	
  a	
  new	
  product	
  or	
  service	
  
offering	
  to	
  the	
  market...	
  
•  How	
  do	
  we	
  improve	
  our	
  client	
  satisfaction	
  by	
  
delivering	
  better	
  client	
  service?	
  
•  How	
  do	
  I	
  design	
  and	
  deliver	
  an	
  effective	
  
thought	
  leadership	
  campaign?	
  
•  What	
  do	
  our	
  clients	
  think	
  about	
  our	
  service	
  
and	
  how	
  do	
  we	
  compare	
  with	
  competitors?	
  
•  How	
  do	
  we	
  enhance	
  our	
  account	
  management	
  
systems	
  and	
  processes?	
  
•  I	
  want	
  to	
  refresh	
  our	
  firm’s	
  brand	
  positioning…	
  
•  How	
  do	
  I	
  make	
  our	
  fee-­‐earners	
  more	
  
commercially-­‐savvy?	
  
•  I	
  want	
  to	
  improve	
  the	
  financial	
  performance	
  of	
  
engagements	
  through	
  better	
  project	
  
management…	
  
•  I	
  want	
  to	
  provide	
  coaching	
  and	
  training	
  to	
  
help	
  fee-­‐earners	
  become	
  more	
  client-­‐centric…	
  
Accountancy	
  
Wealth	
  
management	
  
Executive	
  
search	
  
Law	
  
Corporate	
  and	
  
investment	
  
banking	
  
Property	
  
What	
  issues	
  do	
  our	
  clients	
  typically	
  come	
  to	
  us	
  with:	
  
About	
  Meridian	
  West	
  and	
  how	
  we	
  work	
  with	
  our	
  clients:	
  
Insight-­‐led:	
  unrivalled	
  knowledge	
  of	
  
professional	
  and	
  financial	
  services.	
  
Outcome-­‐focussed:	
  working	
  collaboratively	
  to	
  
meet	
  client	
  objectives,	
  support	
  lasting	
  change	
  
and	
  deliver	
  results.	
  
Satisfied	
  clients:	
  average	
  satisfaction	
  score	
  of	
  
4.44	
  out	
  of	
  5;	
  100%	
  of	
  our	
  clients	
  say	
  they	
  would	
  
definitely	
  recommend	
  Meridian	
  West.	
  
Flexible	
  and	
  creative:	
  our	
  hands-­‐on,	
  adaptable	
  
approach	
  makes	
  us	
  a	
  trusted	
  partner	
  to	
  leading	
  
professional	
  firms	
  across	
  the	
  globe.	
  
A	
  well-­‐rounded	
  team:	
  experienced	
  hands	
  from	
  
inside	
  the	
  industry	
  coupled	
  with	
  fresh,	
  
innovative	
  thinkers.	
  
Added-­‐value:	
  a	
  regular	
  programme	
  of	
  
conferences,	
  roundtables	
  and	
  white	
  papers	
  
showcasing	
  industry	
  best	
  practice.	
  
For	
  more	
  information	
  contact:	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  www.meridianwest.co.uk 	
  gplatts@meridianwest.co.uk	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  +44	
  (0)20	
  7261	
  4700
	
  	
  
Outcome-­‐focussed	
  
planning	
  
Dedicated	
  
project	
  team	
  
Successful	
  
implementa8on	
  
Meridian	
  West	
  
Client-­‐centric	
  strategies	
  for	
  financial	
  and	
  advisory	
  firms	
  
23	
  Carnaby	
  Street	
  	
  	
  
London	
  	
  	
  
W1F	
  7DD	
  
	
  
t	
  	
  0207	
  292	
  4979	
  
w	
  www.meridianwest.co.uk	
  
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Put	
  your	
  ques8ons	
  to	
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Questback "Employee engagement and customer experience surveys – two sides of the same coin?"

  • 1.   Jamie  Lawrence,  Editor,  HRZone     Paul  Barnes,  Managing  Director,  Questback  UK     Ben  Kent,  Managing  Director,  Meridian  West     Employee  engagement  and  customer   experience  surveys  –  two  sides  of  the   same  coin?  
  • 2. Employee engagement and customer experience surveys – two sides of the same coin? Paul Barnes 26.11.2014
  • 3. VersionQ32014,v2.3 PRESENTATION NAME 3 Back to the 90’s - The Service Profit Chain
  • 4. PRESENTATION NAME 4 “The way you treat your employees is the way they will treat your customers” Richard Branson
  • 5. PRESENTATION NAME 5 There are only three measurements that tell you nearly everything you need to know about your organization’s overall performance: employee engagement, customer satisfaction, and cash flow. Jack Welch
  • 6. PRESENTATION NAME 6 POLL  QUESTION:  Does  your  organisa8on  link   employee  engagement  and  customer   experience  data?  
  • 7. VersionQ32014,v2.3 PRESENTATION NAME So we’re all on top of this…. right? 7 Does your organisation combine the data from customer experience and employee engagement feedback? 5% Yes, fully integrated 38% 31% No plans to do so Yes, partly integrated 26% No, but planning to within the next 18 months
  • 8. VersionQ32014,v2.3 PRESENTATION NAME The benefits are clear 8 What benefits are you aiming to achieve from combining customer experience and employee engagement feedback? Identify ways to improve customer 83%experience More motivated and engaged employees 75% Get insight into activities that can link 58%directly to specific business objectives Link CX feedback to specific 51%employees Gain greater insight into 49%customer behaviour Provide a more personalised 44% service to customers Reward strongest performing employees 29% Other 8% Reduce research costs 7%  
  • 9. PRESENTATION NAME 9 POLL  QUESTION     COMPARISON  OF  POLL  RESULTS  
  • 10. VersionQ32014,v2.3 PRESENTATION NAME So what’s holding us back? 10 Are there any specific reasons why you are not planning to combine customer experience and employee engagement?
  • 11. VersionQ32014,v2.3 PRESENTATION NAME Moving forward – a question of ownership? 11 Who will lead on the combined customer experience and employee engagement feedback programme? Other CEO 5% Customer service team 5% 7% 14% HR department 15% CX/marketing department External consultancy/agency 2% 29% A combination of HR and either customer service or CX/marketing departments 24% Central insight function
  • 12. VersionQ32014,v2.3 PRESENTATION NAME 12 Final thoughts - everyone benefits CUSTOMER Customer experience issues are identified more clearly and resolved through actionable insight EMPLOYEE Real time feedback from “my” customers Identifies areas where support, training and development will be valuable BUSINESS Capture the voice of the “non-responder” Early warning on issues to support better decision making …and back to the service to profit chain
  • 13. Thank you For more information, please contact Paul Barnes paul.barnes@questback.com. @psbarnes
  • 14. VersionQ32014,v2.3 PRESENTATION NAME www.meridianwest.co.uk     Employee  engagement  and   customer  experience  surveys  –  two   sides  of  the  same  coin?   Kent  Blaxill  Case  Study  
  • 15. Established  in  1838  –  the  year  Victoria  was  crowned   15  
  • 16. 2012  the  board  agrees  to  do  an  on-­‐line  survey   •  607  responses     •  68%    -­‐  ‘very  good’  or   ‘outstanding’   16  
  • 17. Gulp!   •  “I  have  been  using  Kent  Blaxill  for  at  least  35   years  and  have  always  found  them  to  be  brilliant   until  the  last  few  years.    The  helpfulness  of  staff   has  really  gone  downhill  and  to  get  staff  to  do   anything  for  you  -­‐  they  have  a  "can't  be   bothered"  attitude!    I  know  this  is  not  just  my   opinion  as  many  in  the  business  are  now  going   elsewhere!  (Landscaper,  Colchester)   17  
  • 18. Staff  survey  highlights  some  alarming  problems     •  “Staff  need  to  feel  part  of  one   company  -­‐  not  sectioned  off   into  small  departments  ....   •  Staff  need  to  be  pro-­‐active  in   communication  and  not  sit  back   thinking  'well  no  one  told  me'   but  actually  ask  questions  and   look  interested  in  what  else  is   going  on?  “   18   The  board   Colchester           Bury  St   Edmunds   Branches  
  • 19. Ron  McConnachie  joins     1.  Kicks  off  customer  profit  analysis  and  account  plan   19   Account   plans   Customer   profit     data   Survey   165 customers followed up by sales reps Resulted in new sales £600k of new sales projected for 2014
  • 20. 2.  We  develop  a  customer  charter  –  Number  1   and  committed  to  repeating  research  in  2014   20  
  • 21. 3.  We  run  a  workshop  of  “influencers”  to  create  an   action  plan  for  a  more  open,  performance-­‐driven  firm     21   Lots  of  ideas  were  shared  and  this  group  gave  people  a  chance  to  be  heard.  Everyone   thought  that  this  workshop  was  beneficial  and  that  the  invitees  should  change  regularly   to  allow  new  ideas  from  people  who  wish  to  be  included.     Actions     1. Annually  –  a  presentation  to  the  staff  from  Simon  Blaxill  together  with  a  short   presentation  from  Kevin  Sturdy  given  staff  the  numbers.     2. Monthly  -­‐  short  meetings  with  line  managers.  All  information  needs  to  be  cascaded   down  to  everyone  (this  to  include  KPIs)     Andy  mc  agreed  to  look  at  operational  KPIs  for  the  different  departments.     3. More  walking  around  the  branch  by  Simon  &  Ron  to  get  to  know  staff.     4. Ben  Kent  to  put  together  a  short  version  of  the  customer  survey  so  staff  can  see   what  came  back  –  there  is  a  lot  of  good  information  in  it  and  he  will  make  it  into  a   video  for  all  staff  to  watch.  Quotes  from  the  survey  to  be  used  in  marketing.     5. The  Customer  Charter  –  Ben  &  Ron  to  look  at  ways  of  getting  this  over  to  all  staff.   Possibly  presenting  it  to  them  in  small  groups.    
  • 22. 4.  HR  consultants  are  hired  to  revamp  policies   Customer  service  training   Revamp   appraisals  and   create   competency   frameworks   Internal   communications   strategy  eg   posters  with  our   mission,   newsletter,  MD   presentation   22  
  • 23. Ron  publicises  success  stories   Show  monetary  impact   23   125%  increase  in  timber  sales  
  • 24. What  a  difference  a  year  makes   •  2013   –  Board  dominated  by     operations  and  finance   issues   –  Loss  making   –  Declining  morale   •  2014   –  HR  and  customer  issues   represented  on  the   board   –  Back  into  profit.     Revenues  up.    New   branches.   –  Better  morale  and   communication   24  
  • 25. Challenging  but  worthwhile   What  worked  well   1.  Staff  survey   2.  Integrating  customer   profitability  and  survey   data  to  create  account   plans   3.  Customer  charter   4.  Celebrating  small  wins   Where  did  we  struggle   1.  Work  on  getting  real   commitment  from  the   board  took  time   2.  It  needs  consistent  face  to   face  communication  from   the  management.    This  is   not  just  “words”   3.  Maintaining  momentum.     It  is  a  journey!    Culture   takes  a  while  to  change.   25  
  • 26. Meridian  West  at  a  glance.     Research,  consultancy  and  training  to  help  firms  become  more  client-­‐focused   and  increase  their  profitability.   We  focus  on  professional  and  financial  services:   •  Where  are  the  biggest  growth  opportunities   for  our  firm?   •  I  want  to  launch  a  new  product  or  service   offering  to  the  market...   •  How  do  we  improve  our  client  satisfaction  by   delivering  better  client  service?   •  How  do  I  design  and  deliver  an  effective   thought  leadership  campaign?   •  What  do  our  clients  think  about  our  service   and  how  do  we  compare  with  competitors?   •  How  do  we  enhance  our  account  management   systems  and  processes?   •  I  want  to  refresh  our  firm’s  brand  positioning…   •  How  do  I  make  our  fee-­‐earners  more   commercially-­‐savvy?   •  I  want  to  improve  the  financial  performance  of   engagements  through  better  project   management…   •  I  want  to  provide  coaching  and  training  to   help  fee-­‐earners  become  more  client-­‐centric…   Accountancy   Wealth   management   Executive   search   Law   Corporate  and   investment   banking   Property   What  issues  do  our  clients  typically  come  to  us  with:   About  Meridian  West  and  how  we  work  with  our  clients:   Insight-­‐led:  unrivalled  knowledge  of   professional  and  financial  services.   Outcome-­‐focussed:  working  collaboratively  to   meet  client  objectives,  support  lasting  change   and  deliver  results.   Satisfied  clients:  average  satisfaction  score  of   4.44  out  of  5;  100%  of  our  clients  say  they  would   definitely  recommend  Meridian  West.   Flexible  and  creative:  our  hands-­‐on,  adaptable   approach  makes  us  a  trusted  partner  to  leading   professional  firms  across  the  globe.   A  well-­‐rounded  team:  experienced  hands  from   inside  the  industry  coupled  with  fresh,   innovative  thinkers.   Added-­‐value:  a  regular  programme  of   conferences,  roundtables  and  white  papers   showcasing  industry  best  practice.   For  more  information  contact:                    www.meridianwest.co.uk  gplatts@meridianwest.co.uk                                                +44  (0)20  7261  4700     Outcome-­‐focussed   planning   Dedicated   project  team   Successful   implementa8on  
  • 27. Meridian  West   Client-­‐centric  strategies  for  financial  and  advisory  firms   23  Carnaby  Street       London       W1F  7DD     t    0207  292  4979   w  www.meridianwest.co.uk   27  
  • 28. Q&A   Put  your  ques8ons  to  our   panel.