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5 WAYS TO WIN
OVER A TRADITIONAL
MARKETING EXECUTIVE
By Jim Nichols
VP Marketing, Apsalar
Copyright © 2015 All rights reserved worldwide. | www.apsalar.com 2
INTRODUCTION
We all sell for a living, even when our title is buyer, and
one of the toughest challenges for any digital "seller" can
be getting a traditional marketer to approve concepts and
budgets for innovative digital programs. Some digital folks try
to slam concepts through, and often fail to get buy-in.
Others recognize that winning the budgetary affections of a
traditional marketer requires some finesse -- like a well-
choreographed dance. Here are five steps that can help you
dance your way to consistent wins.
1
CHANNEL ARTHUR MURRAY
The late, great Arthur Murray popularized ballroom dance in America.
His legacy is a company that now has more than 260 dance education
studios worldwide. And what they do in those studios is teach dance
in ways that are fun, supportive and step-by-step. Pun intended. Their
style of teaching ensures that the new dancer feels their own progress
with each lesson.
Most traditional people have tons of curiosity about digital. They read
the trades. Their kids are Snapchatting and Instagramming all day.
They get digital’s power on an intellectual level. But you can't dance if
no one takes the time to show you the steps. It's the same with digital.
That traditional marketer won't get into what you are selling without
getting out on the metaphorical hardwood and trying.
If you want to sell a Pinterest program, get your boss on Pinterest. If
you want to sell a big tablet initiative, get them to agree to give up their
PC for a day, and lend them your iPad. Trying to sell in an app?
Show them a competitor's app. Digital is participatory, not passive. By
making THEIR participation part of YOUR pitch, you will be
amazed at what you can push through. That traditional marketer will
thank you for your efforts. There's a difference between not being
capable of dancing, and not knowing how.
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DO THE “FOOT IN THE DOOR”
TWO-STEP
Here's a dance every change agent has to know. It's often
easier to sell a traditional marketer on a concept first, and
then talk money later. Intuitively, many digital initiatives are so
inherently rich and game-changing that they get people excited.
If you work for an online travel agent, for example, who could
argue with the value of having your loyal customers having an
app with then 24/7 so they can buy tickets, rooms, and car rentals
at any time?
Without the pre-sell, you are asking people to take money away from
something they understand and put it against something they may not
really "get" at first glance. But if you do the two-step, they get used to the
idea -- and get behind it -- before the checkbook has to come out.
Sometimes, we digital people want to move so quickly that we try to ram every-
thing through in 10 minutes. But innovation often takes a little finesse to sell. Ideas
excite both the rational and emotional sides of our brains. Spreadsheets are usually
compelling to only one side. Sell the concept first. And gain agreement and commit-
ment to the principle. That's your foot in the door. Then go back a little later for budget.
3MASTER THE STRATEGIC LINE DANCE
Some people can get excited about digital programs because they are groundbreaking
and cool. And some digital people think that sometimes experimenting with new technol-
ogies should take priority over strong strategic alignment. I personally disagree with that,
but understand why others think differently. But no matter for our purposes here.
What's important to remember is that for someone not fully convinced of the power of
digital, ensuring that your recommendations have a strategic foundation is important.
Focus on recommending programs that have a tight strategic fit -- that are clearly
capable of helping your brand meet a critical business challenge. Get in line with the
brand strategy and you'll be sure to get some good time out on the dance floor.
6
4
ASK FOR ONE DANCE,
NOT THEIR FULL DANCE CARD
Rationalize the size of your request with the extent to which a strategy or tactic is proven to work
for your category. A $50K test is a lot easier for a traditional marketer to buy into than a $1M full-
year program.
One of the best things about digital is that there is usually a way to do a proof of
concept before you make a major commitment. Credit all the years when bud-
gets were lean for the willingness of even large companies to accommodate
small(ish) test budgets.
What's critical here, as with all digital programs but especial-
ly here, is that you establish success and failure mea-
sures before a program begins, and have a robust
measurement system in place to do the counting.
Most companies prefer a third-party to ver-
ify results -- otherwise the vendor
is "grading their own paper."
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5
SWEEP ‘EM OFF THEIR FEET
WITH A HABANERA
There's nothing more annoying to a traditional marketer than being told
they are obsolete dinosaurs. I am 1,000 percent convinced that digital
would have gotten budget traction a lot faster if we hadn't positioned it
as something that was going to thrash ho-hum TV and Print overnight.
Newsflash: people watch more TV than ever.
If you have disdain for your traditional peers and bosses --
newsflash: your disdain shows. They can feel it. Get over your
arrogance. Recognize that all media, traditional and otherwise, have
strengths, and that digital is just part of the story for a big brand. Think
about innovation and the ideas you want to implement in the context of
the entire marketing mix. How does digital make the overall plan better?
And recognize that that dinosaur you need to convince probably knows a
lot about a lot of things that you don't know. You don't slap a dance partner
in the face and then get them to cut a rug with you. Dance with them, re-
spect their knowledge and perspective. And never be a wallflower again!
Thanks to iMediaConnection for publishing this content first.
Copyright © 2015 All rights reserved worldwide. | www.apsalar.com 8
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jim Nichols is VP of Marketing for
Apsalar. Jim has 20+ years experience
in over 80 different categories,
including developing successful
positioning and go-to-market plans
for more than 40 adtech and martech
companies. He joins Apsalar after
several years as VP of Marketing for
Conversant, where he led various
efforts in the successful rebrand of
the company from ValueClick, Inc.
The rebrand and associated industry
attention for the company contributed
to the $2.3B sale of Conversant to
Alliance Data in December, 2014. He is a
prolific writer for digital trades on brand
marketing, mobile, video, data, and
customer profiling. Publications include
iMedia Connection, Inside Radio,
VentureBeat, ad:tech, ShellyPalmer.
com, Jack Myers, and many consumer
publications. He holds a B.A. in
U.S. History from the University of
Pennsylvania and an MBA in Marketing
from the University of Chicago.
Visit
www.Apsalar.com/Resources
for more Take 5 content!
ABOUT APSALAR
Apsalar, the leader in mobile data management, helps direct marketing brands get
better marketing effectiveness by providing a mobile data management platform
that delivers a true understanding of customer behavior in apps and across other
marketing channels.
The Apsalar Mobile DMP enables brands to measure marketing effectiveness,
enhance, manage, enrich and segment profiles to build audiences, and easily and
safely connect to other marketing partners so brands can confidently share their
data and audiences.
APSALAR
ATTRIBUTION
APSALAR
AUDIENCES
APSALAR
DATASYNC
MOBILE DMP
Collect and measure in-app
consumer behavior and
marketing performance.
Measure every in-app action
relevent to your buinesss
Unite your first party data
from all sources, enrich it
with third party data, and
build high performance
marketing audiences
Easily and safely share
customer audiences and
data with your digital
marketing platforms,
including analytics,
marketing automation,
media companies and legacy
DMPs

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5 Ways to Win Over a Traditional Marketer

  • 1. 5 WAYS TO WIN OVER A TRADITIONAL MARKETING EXECUTIVE By Jim Nichols VP Marketing, Apsalar
  • 2. Copyright © 2015 All rights reserved worldwide. | www.apsalar.com 2 INTRODUCTION We all sell for a living, even when our title is buyer, and one of the toughest challenges for any digital "seller" can be getting a traditional marketer to approve concepts and budgets for innovative digital programs. Some digital folks try to slam concepts through, and often fail to get buy-in. Others recognize that winning the budgetary affections of a traditional marketer requires some finesse -- like a well- choreographed dance. Here are five steps that can help you dance your way to consistent wins.
  • 3. 1 CHANNEL ARTHUR MURRAY The late, great Arthur Murray popularized ballroom dance in America. His legacy is a company that now has more than 260 dance education studios worldwide. And what they do in those studios is teach dance in ways that are fun, supportive and step-by-step. Pun intended. Their style of teaching ensures that the new dancer feels their own progress with each lesson. Most traditional people have tons of curiosity about digital. They read the trades. Their kids are Snapchatting and Instagramming all day. They get digital’s power on an intellectual level. But you can't dance if no one takes the time to show you the steps. It's the same with digital. That traditional marketer won't get into what you are selling without getting out on the metaphorical hardwood and trying. If you want to sell a Pinterest program, get your boss on Pinterest. If you want to sell a big tablet initiative, get them to agree to give up their PC for a day, and lend them your iPad. Trying to sell in an app? Show them a competitor's app. Digital is participatory, not passive. By making THEIR participation part of YOUR pitch, you will be amazed at what you can push through. That traditional marketer will thank you for your efforts. There's a difference between not being capable of dancing, and not knowing how.
  • 4. 2Copyright © 2015 All rights reserved worldwide. | www.apsalar.com 4 DO THE “FOOT IN THE DOOR” TWO-STEP Here's a dance every change agent has to know. It's often easier to sell a traditional marketer on a concept first, and then talk money later. Intuitively, many digital initiatives are so inherently rich and game-changing that they get people excited. If you work for an online travel agent, for example, who could argue with the value of having your loyal customers having an app with then 24/7 so they can buy tickets, rooms, and car rentals at any time? Without the pre-sell, you are asking people to take money away from something they understand and put it against something they may not really "get" at first glance. But if you do the two-step, they get used to the idea -- and get behind it -- before the checkbook has to come out. Sometimes, we digital people want to move so quickly that we try to ram every- thing through in 10 minutes. But innovation often takes a little finesse to sell. Ideas excite both the rational and emotional sides of our brains. Spreadsheets are usually compelling to only one side. Sell the concept first. And gain agreement and commit- ment to the principle. That's your foot in the door. Then go back a little later for budget.
  • 5. 3MASTER THE STRATEGIC LINE DANCE Some people can get excited about digital programs because they are groundbreaking and cool. And some digital people think that sometimes experimenting with new technol- ogies should take priority over strong strategic alignment. I personally disagree with that, but understand why others think differently. But no matter for our purposes here. What's important to remember is that for someone not fully convinced of the power of digital, ensuring that your recommendations have a strategic foundation is important. Focus on recommending programs that have a tight strategic fit -- that are clearly capable of helping your brand meet a critical business challenge. Get in line with the brand strategy and you'll be sure to get some good time out on the dance floor.
  • 6. 6 4 ASK FOR ONE DANCE, NOT THEIR FULL DANCE CARD Rationalize the size of your request with the extent to which a strategy or tactic is proven to work for your category. A $50K test is a lot easier for a traditional marketer to buy into than a $1M full- year program. One of the best things about digital is that there is usually a way to do a proof of concept before you make a major commitment. Credit all the years when bud- gets were lean for the willingness of even large companies to accommodate small(ish) test budgets. What's critical here, as with all digital programs but especial- ly here, is that you establish success and failure mea- sures before a program begins, and have a robust measurement system in place to do the counting. Most companies prefer a third-party to ver- ify results -- otherwise the vendor is "grading their own paper."
  • 7. Copyright © 2015 All rights reserved worldwide. | www.apsalar.com 7 5 SWEEP ‘EM OFF THEIR FEET WITH A HABANERA There's nothing more annoying to a traditional marketer than being told they are obsolete dinosaurs. I am 1,000 percent convinced that digital would have gotten budget traction a lot faster if we hadn't positioned it as something that was going to thrash ho-hum TV and Print overnight. Newsflash: people watch more TV than ever. If you have disdain for your traditional peers and bosses -- newsflash: your disdain shows. They can feel it. Get over your arrogance. Recognize that all media, traditional and otherwise, have strengths, and that digital is just part of the story for a big brand. Think about innovation and the ideas you want to implement in the context of the entire marketing mix. How does digital make the overall plan better? And recognize that that dinosaur you need to convince probably knows a lot about a lot of things that you don't know. You don't slap a dance partner in the face and then get them to cut a rug with you. Dance with them, re- spect their knowledge and perspective. And never be a wallflower again! Thanks to iMediaConnection for publishing this content first.
  • 8. Copyright © 2015 All rights reserved worldwide. | www.apsalar.com 8 ABOUT THE AUTHOR Jim Nichols is VP of Marketing for Apsalar. Jim has 20+ years experience in over 80 different categories, including developing successful positioning and go-to-market plans for more than 40 adtech and martech companies. He joins Apsalar after several years as VP of Marketing for Conversant, where he led various efforts in the successful rebrand of the company from ValueClick, Inc. The rebrand and associated industry attention for the company contributed to the $2.3B sale of Conversant to Alliance Data in December, 2014. He is a prolific writer for digital trades on brand marketing, mobile, video, data, and customer profiling. Publications include iMedia Connection, Inside Radio, VentureBeat, ad:tech, ShellyPalmer. com, Jack Myers, and many consumer publications. He holds a B.A. in U.S. History from the University of Pennsylvania and an MBA in Marketing from the University of Chicago. Visit www.Apsalar.com/Resources for more Take 5 content! ABOUT APSALAR Apsalar, the leader in mobile data management, helps direct marketing brands get better marketing effectiveness by providing a mobile data management platform that delivers a true understanding of customer behavior in apps and across other marketing channels. The Apsalar Mobile DMP enables brands to measure marketing effectiveness, enhance, manage, enrich and segment profiles to build audiences, and easily and safely connect to other marketing partners so brands can confidently share their data and audiences. APSALAR ATTRIBUTION APSALAR AUDIENCES APSALAR DATASYNC MOBILE DMP Collect and measure in-app consumer behavior and marketing performance. Measure every in-app action relevent to your buinesss Unite your first party data from all sources, enrich it with third party data, and build high performance marketing audiences Easily and safely share customer audiences and data with your digital marketing platforms, including analytics, marketing automation, media companies and legacy DMPs