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Climbing off the Ladder, 
Before we fall off. 
Or how I began to think about nonlinear 
career development
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1 
Who is this Chris Angove person? 
Graduated with BS in CS from the University of Michigan 
Spent 10 years as a C++ Developer 
Started leading in 2005 (reluctantly) 
Associate Director of Engineering at Amplify in Brooklyn in 2012 
Joined Spotify as a Chapter Lead in 2013 
Always been interested in engineering culture and career development
2 
Quick Overview of 
Spotify
3
4 
Began with Agile, but process got in the way 
At beginning process was vital to creating the team 
As we grow, teams tried to figure out how to remain agile 
Implement new structure in 2012 
Continuously tweaking process
5 
Alignment & Autonomy 
Henrik Kniberg 
Alignment 
Do 
what I 
say! 
Autonomy 
Do 
whateve 
r
6 
High 
Alignmen 
t 
Aligned Autonomy! 
High 
Autonomy 
Build a 
bridge! 
Micromanaging 
organization 
Indifferent 
culture 
Entrepreneurial 
organization 
Chaotic 
culture 
Authoritative 
organization 
Conformist 
culture 
Innovative 
organization 
Collaborative 
culture 
We need to 
cross the 
river Figure out 
how! 
We need to 
cross the 
river 
Low 
Alignmen 
t 
Low 
Autonomy 
Hope someone 
is working on 
the river 
problem… 
Henrik Kniberg
Not so original, original idea 7 
Tribe 
PO PO PO 
Tribe lead 
Tribe 
PO PO PO PO 
Tribe lead 
Chapter 
Chapter 
PO 
Chapter 
Chapter Guild
Reality is Messy! 8 
Tribe 
PO PO PO 
Tribe lead 
Tribe 
PO PO PO PO 
Tribe lead 
PO 
Chapter 
Chapter Guild
9 
Aligned Autonomy 
- be autonomous, but don’t suboptimize 
- Spotify’s mission > Squad’s mission 
Henrik Kniberg
10 
Mutual respect 
My colleagues are 
awesome! 
Ego 
Henrik Kniberg
11 
The Linear Ladder 
Walking the usual path
12 
CTO 
VP of Engineering 
Director of Engineering 
Team Lead 
Architect 
Senior Software Engineer 
Junior Developer 
Intern
13 
Each rung is clearly tied to role and responsibility 
The Benefits of the Ladder
14 
Path of Career Development is Clear 
The Benefits of the Ladder
15 
Easy to get Resources 
The Benefits of the Ladder
16 
Value added to the company is obvious to all 
The Benefits of the Ladder
17 
The Benefits of the Ladder 
Explicit path for respect and being recognized for achievements
18 
What’s the Danger? 
Simplicity sometimes has it’s cost
19 
Reality is rarely simple, more often it’s messy 
What’s wrong with the ladder
20 
We have usually preferred to keep structure flat, only defining positions based 
on role not seniority 
What’s wrong with the ladder
21 
The only way to add value is predefined by structure 
What’s wrong with the ladder
22 
What’s wrong with the ladder 
May not have the skill set or interest for the next level on the ladder
23 
What’s wrong with the ladder 
No way to try out things, moving down the ladder is difficult
24 
What’s wrong with the ladder 
Creates a factory to eject people due to limited management positions
25 
What’s wrong with the ladder 
May promote people beyond their abilities and thus out of the company
26 
What’s wrong with the ladder 
Ultimately it provides simplicity at the cost of actual career development
27 
Assumes plateauing at a specific role is bad, but why? 
What’s wrong with the ladder
28 
There has to be a better way! 
What’s wrong with the ladder 
Right?!?!
29 
Multiple Ladders 
An increasingly popular approach
The Technology Ladder 30
31 
The Technology Ladder 
Creates a technology track to reduce skillset/interest mismatches
32 
Clearly sets up easy ways to recognize accomplishments 
The Technology Ladder
33 
Still very clear routes and roles setup as in linear ladder 
The Technology Ladder
34 
But…. 
The Technology Ladder
35 
Limited as it still sets up explicit roles 
The Technology Ladder
36 
Usually gets muddled (http://bit.ly/1oS7H9l) 
The Technology Ladder
37 
The Technology Ladder 
Still assumes that the only way to grow is through more responsibility/control
38 
Does not answer how to experiment and switch roles 
The Technology Ladder
39 
A non-linear 
approach 
What we call Add - Ons
A nonlinear model 40
41 
Roles defined by institutional need, not career advancement 
A nonlinear model
42 
Add-ons add both personal as well as business value 
A nonlinear model
43 
Interest and skill-set define which add-on the engineer chooses 
A nonlinear model
44 
It is engineer driven but supported by the company 
A nonlinear model 
Manager works with the engineer 
Trainings, sessions, workshops provided as needed 
Time off to participate in events approved
45 
Driving forces: 
A nonlinear model
46 
Do things; tell people 
A nonlinear model 
You’re doing cool stuff that others would benefit from hearing about 
You’re passionate about something and you’d like to see more of it 
You’d like recognition for your efforts
47 
Try Something New 
A nonlinear model 
Work is great but getting a little bored 
You’d like to try something new, but not stop what you are doing 
Not sure you want to risk switching roles completely
48 
Get out of the Comfort Zone 
A nonlinear model 
You’d like to acquire new skills 
You need to push yourself in a new direction 
Shake things up to see what latent skills are there
49 
Employee chooses add-ons or creates a new one: 
A nonlinear model 
Define Goal 
Define Success Metrics 
Define Help Needed
50 
Open Sourcer 
A Few Examples 
A nonlinear model 
Speaker 
Trainer 
Coach 
Mentor 
Architect 
Writer 
Evangelist 
Road Manager
51 
This is a work in progress 
A nonlinear model 
Testing our hypothesis now 
Initial steps in 2013 were a bit slow 
But we’re refining, check back with us soon!
52 
What are your ideas? 
This is not solved we need to innovate 
Yes this is a call to action! 
Email me cangove@spotify.com
53 
Want to join the band? 
Check out spotify.com/jobs or 
@Spotifyjobs for more information.
Watch the video with slide synchronization on 
InfoQ.com! 
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Climbing Off The Ladder, Before We Fall Off

  • 1. August 28, 2014 Climbing off the Ladder, Before we fall off. Or how I began to think about nonlinear career development
  • 2. Watch the video with slide synchronization on InfoQ.com! http://www.infoq.com/presentations /spotify-happiness-retention InfoQ.com: News & Community Site • 750,000 unique visitors/month • Published in 4 languages (English, Chinese, Japanese and Brazilian Portuguese) • Post content from our QCon conferences • News 15-20 / week • Articles 3-4 / week • Presentations (videos) 12-15 / week • Interviews 2-3 / week • Books 1 / month
  • 3. Presented at QCon New York www.qconnewyork.com Purpose of QCon - to empower software development by facilitating the spread of knowledge and innovation Strategy - practitioner-driven conference designed for YOU: influencers of change and innovation in your teams - speakers and topics driving the evolution and innovation - connecting and catalyzing the influencers and innovators Highlights - attended by more than 12,000 delegates since 2007 - held in 9 cities worldwide
  • 4. 1 Who is this Chris Angove person? Graduated with BS in CS from the University of Michigan Spent 10 years as a C++ Developer Started leading in 2005 (reluctantly) Associate Director of Engineering at Amplify in Brooklyn in 2012 Joined Spotify as a Chapter Lead in 2013 Always been interested in engineering culture and career development
  • 5. 2 Quick Overview of Spotify
  • 6. 3
  • 7. 4 Began with Agile, but process got in the way At beginning process was vital to creating the team As we grow, teams tried to figure out how to remain agile Implement new structure in 2012 Continuously tweaking process
  • 8. 5 Alignment & Autonomy Henrik Kniberg Alignment Do what I say! Autonomy Do whateve r
  • 9. 6 High Alignmen t Aligned Autonomy! High Autonomy Build a bridge! Micromanaging organization Indifferent culture Entrepreneurial organization Chaotic culture Authoritative organization Conformist culture Innovative organization Collaborative culture We need to cross the river Figure out how! We need to cross the river Low Alignmen t Low Autonomy Hope someone is working on the river problem… Henrik Kniberg
  • 10. Not so original, original idea 7 Tribe PO PO PO Tribe lead Tribe PO PO PO PO Tribe lead Chapter Chapter PO Chapter Chapter Guild
  • 11. Reality is Messy! 8 Tribe PO PO PO Tribe lead Tribe PO PO PO PO Tribe lead PO Chapter Chapter Guild
  • 12. 9 Aligned Autonomy - be autonomous, but don’t suboptimize - Spotify’s mission > Squad’s mission Henrik Kniberg
  • 13. 10 Mutual respect My colleagues are awesome! Ego Henrik Kniberg
  • 14. 11 The Linear Ladder Walking the usual path
  • 15. 12 CTO VP of Engineering Director of Engineering Team Lead Architect Senior Software Engineer Junior Developer Intern
  • 16. 13 Each rung is clearly tied to role and responsibility The Benefits of the Ladder
  • 17. 14 Path of Career Development is Clear The Benefits of the Ladder
  • 18. 15 Easy to get Resources The Benefits of the Ladder
  • 19. 16 Value added to the company is obvious to all The Benefits of the Ladder
  • 20. 17 The Benefits of the Ladder Explicit path for respect and being recognized for achievements
  • 21. 18 What’s the Danger? Simplicity sometimes has it’s cost
  • 22. 19 Reality is rarely simple, more often it’s messy What’s wrong with the ladder
  • 23. 20 We have usually preferred to keep structure flat, only defining positions based on role not seniority What’s wrong with the ladder
  • 24. 21 The only way to add value is predefined by structure What’s wrong with the ladder
  • 25. 22 What’s wrong with the ladder May not have the skill set or interest for the next level on the ladder
  • 26. 23 What’s wrong with the ladder No way to try out things, moving down the ladder is difficult
  • 27. 24 What’s wrong with the ladder Creates a factory to eject people due to limited management positions
  • 28. 25 What’s wrong with the ladder May promote people beyond their abilities and thus out of the company
  • 29. 26 What’s wrong with the ladder Ultimately it provides simplicity at the cost of actual career development
  • 30. 27 Assumes plateauing at a specific role is bad, but why? What’s wrong with the ladder
  • 31. 28 There has to be a better way! What’s wrong with the ladder Right?!?!
  • 32. 29 Multiple Ladders An increasingly popular approach
  • 34. 31 The Technology Ladder Creates a technology track to reduce skillset/interest mismatches
  • 35. 32 Clearly sets up easy ways to recognize accomplishments The Technology Ladder
  • 36. 33 Still very clear routes and roles setup as in linear ladder The Technology Ladder
  • 37. 34 But…. The Technology Ladder
  • 38. 35 Limited as it still sets up explicit roles The Technology Ladder
  • 39. 36 Usually gets muddled (http://bit.ly/1oS7H9l) The Technology Ladder
  • 40. 37 The Technology Ladder Still assumes that the only way to grow is through more responsibility/control
  • 41. 38 Does not answer how to experiment and switch roles The Technology Ladder
  • 42. 39 A non-linear approach What we call Add - Ons
  • 44. 41 Roles defined by institutional need, not career advancement A nonlinear model
  • 45. 42 Add-ons add both personal as well as business value A nonlinear model
  • 46. 43 Interest and skill-set define which add-on the engineer chooses A nonlinear model
  • 47. 44 It is engineer driven but supported by the company A nonlinear model Manager works with the engineer Trainings, sessions, workshops provided as needed Time off to participate in events approved
  • 48. 45 Driving forces: A nonlinear model
  • 49. 46 Do things; tell people A nonlinear model You’re doing cool stuff that others would benefit from hearing about You’re passionate about something and you’d like to see more of it You’d like recognition for your efforts
  • 50. 47 Try Something New A nonlinear model Work is great but getting a little bored You’d like to try something new, but not stop what you are doing Not sure you want to risk switching roles completely
  • 51. 48 Get out of the Comfort Zone A nonlinear model You’d like to acquire new skills You need to push yourself in a new direction Shake things up to see what latent skills are there
  • 52. 49 Employee chooses add-ons or creates a new one: A nonlinear model Define Goal Define Success Metrics Define Help Needed
  • 53. 50 Open Sourcer A Few Examples A nonlinear model Speaker Trainer Coach Mentor Architect Writer Evangelist Road Manager
  • 54. 51 This is a work in progress A nonlinear model Testing our hypothesis now Initial steps in 2013 were a bit slow But we’re refining, check back with us soon!
  • 55. 52 What are your ideas? This is not solved we need to innovate Yes this is a call to action! Email me cangove@spotify.com
  • 56. 53 Want to join the band? Check out spotify.com/jobs or @Spotifyjobs for more information.
  • 57. Watch the video with slide synchronization on InfoQ.com! http://www.infoq.com/presentations/spotify-happiness- retention