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The Fiscal Cliff
What does it mean for Ohio?
The Fiscal Cliff
                 What does it mean for Ohio?
                       Featuring:

 Ellen Nissenbaum, Senior Vice President for
  Government Affairs, CBPP

 Debbie Weinstein, Executive Director
  Coalition on Human Needs

 Wendy Patton, Senior Project Director, Policy Matters
  Ohio
TODAY’S AGENDA
 3:00 - 3:05   Will Petrik – Intro, agenda and purpose of conversation
 3:05 - 3:10Debbie Weinstein – What’s at stake for struggling families and
  communities?
 3:10 - 3:30 Ellen Nissenbaum – How did we get here? What are possible
  approaches to deficit reduction?
 3:30 - 3:40
            Debbie Weinstein - What would a cuts only approach mean for
  human needs programs nationally?
 3:40 - 3:48   Wendy Patton - What does it mean for Ohio?
 3:48 - 3:50  Debbie Weinstein – What can Ohioans do to advocate for deficit
  reduction that doesn’t increase poverty or income inequality?
 3:50 - 4:00   Q&A
So much is at stake.
Why the decisions
Congress will (or
                         Deborah Weinstein
won’t) make in the        October 16, 2012
coming months will
matter in Ohio and the
nation.
Will Poverty and Economic Insecurity
  Matter in the Big Decisions Ahead?
• 46 million poor people (15%; 16.4% in Ohio).
• 106 million people below 2x the poverty line
  (below $46,000, family of 4) = 1/3 of the nation.
• 16 million poor children (22%; 24.2% in Ohio).
• Huge racial/ethnic disparities:
              Total Poor:     Children Poor:
  White:         9.8%              12.5%
  Black:         27.5%             37.4%
  Hispanic:      25.3%             34.1%
Top Ten Cities for Child Poverty
Gary, IN:      70%   Reading, PA: 56%
Flint, MI:     61%   Rochester, NY:55%
Detroit, MI:   58%   Cleveland, OH:
Canton, OH:    58%       55%
Camden, NJ:    57%   Dayton, OH: 55%
                     South Bend, IN:
                         54%

                     American Community
                     Survey, 2011
Life and Death
Stakes                Deaths due to lack of
                      health coverage
                      25-64 year olds, 2005-2010
18-64 year olds:
U.S., 40m uninsured
(21%)
21.3m have public       U.S. = 134,120
insurance (11%).
Ohio, 1.2m              Ohio = 4,496
uninsured
1.05m have public                   Source: Families USA
insurance
Families facing hardships turn
            to SNAP
SNAP caseloads up nationwide –

July ’08   July ’11   July ’12   % Increase
                                 (7/08 – 7/12)
 29 m       45.3 m     46.7 m       + 61%

• SNAP = Supplemental Nutrition
  Assistance Program, aka food stamps
EITC, UI, SNAP lift families out of poverty

     All people lifted
     out of poverty
     by EITC, 2011:      5.7 million
     All people lifted
     out of poverty by
     UI, 2011:           2.3 million
     All people lifted
     out of poverty by
     SNAP, 2011:         3.9 million
                            source: U.S. Census Bureau
Huge Fiscal Decisions Lie Ahead:
        The Key Policy Choices
      Thursday Webinar for Ohio folks
              Ellen Nissenbaum
  Senior Vice President, Government Affairs
                www.cbpp.org
            nissenbaum@cbpp.org
               October 16, 2012
11


Long-Term Debt is Unsustainable
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities       12




                                         cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                                                  13

                                         Number of U.S. Households Living Below
                                         World Bank Measure of Serious Poverty in
                                                  Developing Nations:
                                             Living on Less Than $2 a Day, Per Person

                              Cash Income                       Cash Income plus
                                                                Food Stamps


                              636,000 households
1996                                                    475,000 households
                              with 1.4 million children

                              1.46 million households
Start of 2011                                           800,000 households
                              with 2.8 million children

                                                                                  cbpp.org
   Source: Shaefer and Edin, “Extreme Poverty in the United States,” 1996 to     10/18/20
   2011.
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                             14




                                         Debt limit is
                Sequestration hits
                                         hit in early
                   in January
                                            2013


                                                         Current FY13
Tax cuts &                                                 CR runs
UI expire in                                               through
December                                                  March 27



                                                               cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                     15




                                 Sequestration:
• Automatic across the board spending cuts (9 years)

• Primarily hits appropriations

• $109 billion in FY 2013; Roughly $1trillion over 9
   years

• 50% from the defense; 50% from all other
   nonexempt spending

                                                       cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities          16




• Insert slide from Kelsey that has budget pie
  chart showing 1/3 of NDD is money for states.




                                            cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                                17




                                         Health/other
                                         entitlements


Discretionary                                            Revenues
  spending                                  Deficit     (reduce deficit?
                                                         Lower rates?)
                                            Deal:
                                           3-legged
                                             stool
                                            (ratio)
                                                                  cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                                      18


                                         Non-Defense Discretionary Spending
                                         Cuts Far Below Historical Levels




                                                                        cbpp.org
10/18/2012                                                         18
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                                        19

                                         Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefit
                                         Spending Goes to the Elderly, Disabled,
                                                 or Working Households




                                                                          cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

                                            Large Deficit-Reduction
                                         Packages Have Included Large
                                              Revenue Increases




                                                                  cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                                               21


               KEY DECISIONS TO PROTECT THE POOR

• Averting further cuts in NDD (nondefense discretionary)

• No cuts in nonhealth low-income entitlements (SSI,etc)

• SNAP (no more than the Sen. Farm Bill $4 billion)

• No reductions in Medicaid that hit beneficiaries or shift costs to states
   (which ultimately hurts beneficiaries and could discourage states from adopting
   the ACA’s landmark Medicaid expansion)
• No cuts in the refundable tax credits for working poor (EITC, Child Tax
  Credit)
• Ensuring tax reform raises significant revenues and is progressive


                                                                               cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                                         22

                  There Are Both Risks and Opportunities on Taxes,
                  Especially for Low-Income Families with Children

• If new tax revenue is raised, who will bear the burden? Will revenue increases
  be progressive?
• How will low-wage workers fare? Emerging proposals to make everyone who
  works pay at least some federal income tax would effectively result in a
  several-thousand-dollar tax increase for low-income working families.
• A mother raising two children on full-time minimum-wage earnings now
  receives a $7,000 tax credit check because of the Earned Income Tax Credit
  and Child Tax Credit — essentially a large negative income tax. For her to
  owe income tax would require taking more than $7,000 — the equivalent of
  $3.50 an hour — away from her.
• On another front, if revenues are to be raised as part of a deficit-reduction
  package, can that provide an opening for a carbon tax or other major energy
  tax that can help us address global warming?
                                                                           cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                  23



        BOTTOM LINE: A Balanced Plan
                                         REVENUES
• Bipartisan commissions all agree

• Getting to $2+ trillion

• $1.5 trillion cuts already enacted

• What’s “off the table?”

• Two big budgetary “losers” w/o major revenues

• Big hit on states
                                                    cbpp.org
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities                                 24


                        Core Principles for Deficit Reduction

• Must include substantial new revenues & spending cuts

• The cuts already made in discretionary spending should be counted

• Do not increase poverty or income inequality, or reduce opportunity
  for those who are disadvantaged.

• End the 2001/2003 tax cuts now for the wealthiest 2%

• No more cuts in total discretionary spending below BCA

• Don’t shift costs to states

                                                                  cbpp.org
10/18/2012                                                   24
What happens if the deficit is
   reduced by spending cuts alone?
                              Don’t like that?

Cuts of $110 billion a year   Options:
for 10 years, evenly          • Cut defense less?
divided between defense       • Cut defense more?
and
domestic/international.       • Cut domestic programs
                                more deeply?
Many low-income               • Cut Medicaid,
programs exempted.              Medicare, SNAP, UI,
                                SSI, low-income tax
                                credits?
Is there room to cut the Pentagon?
• If sequestration
  takes effect
  through 2021,
  Pentagon will
  still have more
  than it had at
  height of Cold
  War (in real
  terms).
• After cuts in
  2013, U.S. will
  still make 40%
  of world’s
  military
  expenditures.
Impact of Automatic Cuts
           (aka “sequestration”)

750,000 – 900,000 fewer infants, children and
 moms receiving WIC
413,000 fewer adults and youth getting job
 training
51,000 fewer veterans in ed/training
1.8 million fewer low-income schoolchildren with
 reading and math help
96,000 fewer children in Head Start; 80,000
 fewer children in child care
More Impacts…
734,000 fewer households with home
 heating/cooling aid
185,000 – 200,000 fewer households receiving
 rental vouchers
100,000 more homeless people because of cuts to
 Homelessness Assistance Grants
1.5 million fewer low-income people helped in
 community action agencies (through Community
 Services Block Grant)
34,000 fewer women screened for cancer
169,000 fewer admissions to substance abuse
 treatment
How much less than in FY 2010?
• Adult job training:   22.5 – 23.5 percent
• Adult basic education: 19.5 – 20.5 percent
• IDEA education:       12.8 – 14.0%
• LIHEAP grants to states:      33.3 – 34.2 percent
• Public housing capital fund:     35 – 35.9
  percent
• WIC:        20.9 – 22.0 percent
• Substance abuse treatment:       29.9 – 30.8
  percent
• Maternal and Child Health:      16.4 – 17.5
  percent
A Choice:
The cost of continuing   The cost of avoiding
the favorable tax        sequestration-level cuts
treatment for hedge      for housing vouchers
fund managers:           and WIC:



$21 billion              $21 billion
over 10 years            over 10 years
Choice #2
                           OR

Spend $156 million for 2   Provide low-cost
V-22 Osprey                child care to 22,000
helicopters, which cost    children
5 times as much as
other helicopters and
don’t work well.
Choice #3
                         OR
Keep estate tax low:     • Preserve refundable
• Helps 7,400 estates      tax credits for 13m
  nationwide, who get      families; 25.7m
  $1.1 million more        children.
  each than if at 2009   • Helps 500,000 Ohio
  levels.                  families; nearly 1
• Helps 140 Ohio           million children.
  estates.
                         Source: Center on Budget and Policy
                                                   Priorities
Proposals looming to cut vital
             programs
• Medicaid: block grant? Per capita
  cap?
  Ryan budget would block-grant and cut
  Medicaid by one-third by 2022.
• SNAP: block grant? Reduce benefits?
  Ryan budget would block-grant and cut SNAP
  by $134b over 10 years.
• UI: allow federal benefits for long-term
  unemployed to expire in December?
Federal Funding in the State Budget:
    Impact of sequester on funding levels

                           Wendy Patton
                           Senior Project Director
                           Policy Matters Ohio
                           www.policymattersohio.org
                           wpatton@policymattersohio.or
Federal share of Ohio’s General
    Revenue Fund has Grown over time




Source: Policy Matters Ohio based on Legislative Service Commission
Federal program funding in the Ohio
         Department of Health




Source: Policy Matters Ohio based on Legislative Service Commission Budget in detail
• Figure 1
 • Share of Federal Funding in Total
Budget by Service Area, State of Ohio,
 Current State Biennial Budget (SFY
Ohio to lose $316 million in first year
            of sequester
• $126 million annual cut to K-12
    – $58 million – Title 1 (K-12)
    – $38 million – Special education


• Higher education
    – $3.3 million cut from work study (2000 students)
    – $2.6 million from supplemental opportunity
      grant

Source: Policy Matters Ohio based on Federal Funds Information for the States
Sequester cuts to health and human
          services in Ohio
• Health and human services in Ohio to see $82
  million cut
    – Head Start loses $25 million
    – Low income energy assistance to lose $14.6
      million
    – Child care & development block grant - $6.9
      million
    – Substance abuse prevention and treatment block
      grant - $5.9 million
Source: Policy Matters Ohio based on Federal Funds Information for the States
Strengthening America’s Values and Economy
                (SAVE) For All
         Letter with 1,900 signers:
                 92 in Ohio.

 Protect low-         Increase revenues
  income and            from fair sources
  vulnerable people
                       Seek responsible
 Promote job           savings from the
  creation to           Pentagon and
  strengthen the        other areas
  economy
You can help!
• If your organization      • Write an op-ed (we
  signed the SAVE for         can help with
  All letter, send notes      drafting.)
  to staff for Senators     • Write letters to the
  Brown and Portman.          editor responding to
• Bring the letter to         stories about deficit
  candidates’ forums.         reduction, impending
• Set up meetings with        cuts.
  staff – in person or by
  phone.
CONTACT
Advocates for Ohio’s Future
510 East Mound Street, Suite 200
Columbus, OH 43215
www.advocatesforohio.org
Will Petrik | 614-602-2464
Gail Clendenin | 614-602-2463

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AOF fiscal cliff webinar

  • 1. The Fiscal Cliff What does it mean for Ohio?
  • 2. The Fiscal Cliff What does it mean for Ohio? Featuring:  Ellen Nissenbaum, Senior Vice President for Government Affairs, CBPP  Debbie Weinstein, Executive Director Coalition on Human Needs  Wendy Patton, Senior Project Director, Policy Matters Ohio
  • 3. TODAY’S AGENDA  3:00 - 3:05 Will Petrik – Intro, agenda and purpose of conversation  3:05 - 3:10Debbie Weinstein – What’s at stake for struggling families and communities?  3:10 - 3:30 Ellen Nissenbaum – How did we get here? What are possible approaches to deficit reduction?  3:30 - 3:40 Debbie Weinstein - What would a cuts only approach mean for human needs programs nationally?  3:40 - 3:48 Wendy Patton - What does it mean for Ohio?  3:48 - 3:50 Debbie Weinstein – What can Ohioans do to advocate for deficit reduction that doesn’t increase poverty or income inequality?  3:50 - 4:00 Q&A
  • 4. So much is at stake. Why the decisions Congress will (or Deborah Weinstein won’t) make in the October 16, 2012 coming months will matter in Ohio and the nation.
  • 5. Will Poverty and Economic Insecurity Matter in the Big Decisions Ahead? • 46 million poor people (15%; 16.4% in Ohio). • 106 million people below 2x the poverty line (below $46,000, family of 4) = 1/3 of the nation. • 16 million poor children (22%; 24.2% in Ohio). • Huge racial/ethnic disparities: Total Poor: Children Poor: White: 9.8% 12.5% Black: 27.5% 37.4% Hispanic: 25.3% 34.1%
  • 6. Top Ten Cities for Child Poverty Gary, IN: 70% Reading, PA: 56% Flint, MI: 61% Rochester, NY:55% Detroit, MI: 58% Cleveland, OH: Canton, OH: 58% 55% Camden, NJ: 57% Dayton, OH: 55% South Bend, IN: 54% American Community Survey, 2011
  • 7. Life and Death Stakes Deaths due to lack of health coverage 25-64 year olds, 2005-2010 18-64 year olds: U.S., 40m uninsured (21%) 21.3m have public U.S. = 134,120 insurance (11%). Ohio, 1.2m Ohio = 4,496 uninsured 1.05m have public Source: Families USA insurance
  • 8. Families facing hardships turn to SNAP SNAP caseloads up nationwide – July ’08 July ’11 July ’12 % Increase (7/08 – 7/12) 29 m 45.3 m 46.7 m + 61% • SNAP = Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, aka food stamps
  • 9. EITC, UI, SNAP lift families out of poverty All people lifted out of poverty by EITC, 2011: 5.7 million All people lifted out of poverty by UI, 2011: 2.3 million All people lifted out of poverty by SNAP, 2011: 3.9 million source: U.S. Census Bureau
  • 10. Huge Fiscal Decisions Lie Ahead: The Key Policy Choices Thursday Webinar for Ohio folks Ellen Nissenbaum Senior Vice President, Government Affairs www.cbpp.org nissenbaum@cbpp.org October 16, 2012
  • 11. 11 Long-Term Debt is Unsustainable
  • 12. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 12 cbpp.org
  • 13. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 13 Number of U.S. Households Living Below World Bank Measure of Serious Poverty in Developing Nations: Living on Less Than $2 a Day, Per Person Cash Income Cash Income plus Food Stamps 636,000 households 1996 475,000 households with 1.4 million children 1.46 million households Start of 2011 800,000 households with 2.8 million children cbpp.org Source: Shaefer and Edin, “Extreme Poverty in the United States,” 1996 to 10/18/20 2011.
  • 14. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 14 Debt limit is Sequestration hits hit in early in January 2013 Current FY13 Tax cuts & CR runs UI expire in through December March 27 cbpp.org
  • 15. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 15 Sequestration: • Automatic across the board spending cuts (9 years) • Primarily hits appropriations • $109 billion in FY 2013; Roughly $1trillion over 9 years • 50% from the defense; 50% from all other nonexempt spending cbpp.org
  • 16. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 16 • Insert slide from Kelsey that has budget pie chart showing 1/3 of NDD is money for states. cbpp.org
  • 17. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 17 Health/other entitlements Discretionary Revenues spending Deficit (reduce deficit? Lower rates?) Deal: 3-legged stool (ratio) cbpp.org
  • 18. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 18 Non-Defense Discretionary Spending Cuts Far Below Historical Levels cbpp.org 10/18/2012 18
  • 19. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 19 Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefit Spending Goes to the Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households cbpp.org
  • 20. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities Large Deficit-Reduction Packages Have Included Large Revenue Increases cbpp.org
  • 21. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 21 KEY DECISIONS TO PROTECT THE POOR • Averting further cuts in NDD (nondefense discretionary) • No cuts in nonhealth low-income entitlements (SSI,etc) • SNAP (no more than the Sen. Farm Bill $4 billion) • No reductions in Medicaid that hit beneficiaries or shift costs to states (which ultimately hurts beneficiaries and could discourage states from adopting the ACA’s landmark Medicaid expansion) • No cuts in the refundable tax credits for working poor (EITC, Child Tax Credit) • Ensuring tax reform raises significant revenues and is progressive cbpp.org
  • 22. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 22 There Are Both Risks and Opportunities on Taxes, Especially for Low-Income Families with Children • If new tax revenue is raised, who will bear the burden? Will revenue increases be progressive? • How will low-wage workers fare? Emerging proposals to make everyone who works pay at least some federal income tax would effectively result in a several-thousand-dollar tax increase for low-income working families. • A mother raising two children on full-time minimum-wage earnings now receives a $7,000 tax credit check because of the Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit — essentially a large negative income tax. For her to owe income tax would require taking more than $7,000 — the equivalent of $3.50 an hour — away from her. • On another front, if revenues are to be raised as part of a deficit-reduction package, can that provide an opening for a carbon tax or other major energy tax that can help us address global warming? cbpp.org
  • 23. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 23 BOTTOM LINE: A Balanced Plan REVENUES • Bipartisan commissions all agree • Getting to $2+ trillion • $1.5 trillion cuts already enacted • What’s “off the table?” • Two big budgetary “losers” w/o major revenues • Big hit on states cbpp.org
  • 24. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 24 Core Principles for Deficit Reduction • Must include substantial new revenues & spending cuts • The cuts already made in discretionary spending should be counted • Do not increase poverty or income inequality, or reduce opportunity for those who are disadvantaged. • End the 2001/2003 tax cuts now for the wealthiest 2% • No more cuts in total discretionary spending below BCA • Don’t shift costs to states cbpp.org 10/18/2012 24
  • 25. What happens if the deficit is reduced by spending cuts alone? Don’t like that? Cuts of $110 billion a year Options: for 10 years, evenly • Cut defense less? divided between defense • Cut defense more? and domestic/international. • Cut domestic programs more deeply? Many low-income • Cut Medicaid, programs exempted. Medicare, SNAP, UI, SSI, low-income tax credits?
  • 26. Is there room to cut the Pentagon? • If sequestration takes effect through 2021, Pentagon will still have more than it had at height of Cold War (in real terms). • After cuts in 2013, U.S. will still make 40% of world’s military expenditures.
  • 27. Impact of Automatic Cuts (aka “sequestration”) 750,000 – 900,000 fewer infants, children and moms receiving WIC 413,000 fewer adults and youth getting job training 51,000 fewer veterans in ed/training 1.8 million fewer low-income schoolchildren with reading and math help 96,000 fewer children in Head Start; 80,000 fewer children in child care
  • 28. More Impacts… 734,000 fewer households with home heating/cooling aid 185,000 – 200,000 fewer households receiving rental vouchers 100,000 more homeless people because of cuts to Homelessness Assistance Grants 1.5 million fewer low-income people helped in community action agencies (through Community Services Block Grant) 34,000 fewer women screened for cancer 169,000 fewer admissions to substance abuse treatment
  • 29. How much less than in FY 2010? • Adult job training: 22.5 – 23.5 percent • Adult basic education: 19.5 – 20.5 percent • IDEA education: 12.8 – 14.0% • LIHEAP grants to states: 33.3 – 34.2 percent • Public housing capital fund: 35 – 35.9 percent • WIC: 20.9 – 22.0 percent • Substance abuse treatment: 29.9 – 30.8 percent • Maternal and Child Health: 16.4 – 17.5 percent
  • 30. A Choice: The cost of continuing The cost of avoiding the favorable tax sequestration-level cuts treatment for hedge for housing vouchers fund managers: and WIC: $21 billion $21 billion over 10 years over 10 years
  • 31. Choice #2 OR Spend $156 million for 2 Provide low-cost V-22 Osprey child care to 22,000 helicopters, which cost children 5 times as much as other helicopters and don’t work well.
  • 32. Choice #3 OR Keep estate tax low: • Preserve refundable • Helps 7,400 estates tax credits for 13m nationwide, who get families; 25.7m $1.1 million more children. each than if at 2009 • Helps 500,000 Ohio levels. families; nearly 1 • Helps 140 Ohio million children. estates. Source: Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
  • 33. Proposals looming to cut vital programs • Medicaid: block grant? Per capita cap? Ryan budget would block-grant and cut Medicaid by one-third by 2022. • SNAP: block grant? Reduce benefits? Ryan budget would block-grant and cut SNAP by $134b over 10 years. • UI: allow federal benefits for long-term unemployed to expire in December?
  • 34. Federal Funding in the State Budget: Impact of sequester on funding levels Wendy Patton Senior Project Director Policy Matters Ohio www.policymattersohio.org wpatton@policymattersohio.or
  • 35. Federal share of Ohio’s General Revenue Fund has Grown over time Source: Policy Matters Ohio based on Legislative Service Commission
  • 36. Federal program funding in the Ohio Department of Health Source: Policy Matters Ohio based on Legislative Service Commission Budget in detail
  • 37. • Figure 1 • Share of Federal Funding in Total Budget by Service Area, State of Ohio, Current State Biennial Budget (SFY
  • 38. Ohio to lose $316 million in first year of sequester • $126 million annual cut to K-12 – $58 million – Title 1 (K-12) – $38 million – Special education • Higher education – $3.3 million cut from work study (2000 students) – $2.6 million from supplemental opportunity grant Source: Policy Matters Ohio based on Federal Funds Information for the States
  • 39. Sequester cuts to health and human services in Ohio • Health and human services in Ohio to see $82 million cut – Head Start loses $25 million – Low income energy assistance to lose $14.6 million – Child care & development block grant - $6.9 million – Substance abuse prevention and treatment block grant - $5.9 million Source: Policy Matters Ohio based on Federal Funds Information for the States
  • 40. Strengthening America’s Values and Economy (SAVE) For All Letter with 1,900 signers: 92 in Ohio.  Protect low-  Increase revenues income and from fair sources vulnerable people  Seek responsible  Promote job savings from the creation to Pentagon and strengthen the other areas economy
  • 41. You can help! • If your organization • Write an op-ed (we signed the SAVE for can help with All letter, send notes drafting.) to staff for Senators • Write letters to the Brown and Portman. editor responding to • Bring the letter to stories about deficit candidates’ forums. reduction, impending • Set up meetings with cuts. staff – in person or by phone.
  • 42. CONTACT Advocates for Ohio’s Future 510 East Mound Street, Suite 200 Columbus, OH 43215 www.advocatesforohio.org Will Petrik | 614-602-2464 Gail Clendenin | 614-602-2463

Notas do Editor

  1. There is no doubt we need to control deficits in the long run.Most fiscal analysts agree that we need to stabilize national debt as a percentage of GDP (our economic output), in order to avoid reductions to our standard-of-living. That’s not what’s projected in the long-run.Big problem: Inadequate revenues and system wide health care cost controlSo, despite what you may hear, our debt as a percent of GDP is not projected to rise because of spending on income support programs like SNAP, or Food Stamps, or even because of growth in Pell Grant spending.
  2. Here you can see that most large deficit reduction packages in recent memory have included large revenue increases. But so far in 2011, deficit reduction from the only major agreement to date—the Budget Control Act--is on pace to rely entirely on budget cuts, without any contributions from revenues.------------------------------------------(Paul: 1997 deal was Mixed bag. Congress stopped adhering to the tight discretionary caps after a few years, so it is hard to judge them. The Medicare cuts were very largely adhered to, and I don't think they are necessary regretted or caused bad outcomes. The SGR was created and ultimately, after 7 years or so, stopped working -- but the deal only counted on the SGR for a very small proportion of its Medicare savings, and in that it delivered. I am not as enamored of the CTC since it was not made refundable in 1997. I defer to others on CHIP, which is badly designed (a block grant, bad distribution formula, difficult to reallocated funds) and yet nevertheless has been very helpful in increasing the number of children with insurance. What I really don't like, especially in retrospect, was the reduction in the tax rate of capital gains. I don't think we fully appreciated how wrong it was to create such a huge differential between ordinary income and cap gains.Kathy: Well, even at the time of the 1997 legislation CBPP found it unbalanced: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=2093. Nevertheless there were some progressive aspects to the tax cuts, notably a big expansion in the child tax credit. And I suppose political realities ruled out a better mix of policies. Remember that the 1993 package (with significant revenue increases) barely squeaked to passage, and in 1995 the GOP took the House. The deficit challenge that the 1997 deal tackled was modest by today's standards. As you can see from the chart, it was a respectably-sized package but far from the heroic efforts of 1982, 1990, and 1993. We need a vastly bigger deal today, and discretionary spending is already cut close to the bone.