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Health and Safety
Executive

Sensible health and safety
management in schools
AHDS Annual Conference – 8 November 2013
David Bryant
Public Services Sector
Health and Safety Executive
Today’s workshop
1. Our priorities
2. Health and safety in your school – health check
3. Sensible health and safety in schools – any
different from strong leadership?
4. Myth busting
5. What did I miss out?
The reform agenda
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Common Sense Common Safety – Oct 2010
Good health and safety, good for everyone - March 2011
Red Tape Challenge - April 2011
Löfstedt - Independent review - Nov 2011 and Jan 2013
Triennial Review

Outcomes

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Refreshed regulatory framework
A changed regulator
Increased media and public focus on burdens
Strategy remains relevant
Refreshed regulatory framework
Some key aspects:
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Simplify legislation

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Extend cost recovery

Streamline and simplify guidance
- Review of ACoPs
Reduce burden
– RIDDOR reports
– Some exemption for self-employed
– easier to find competent consultants
Progress so far
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Management Regulations
– Health and safety management

/Learn

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Accident reporting – October 2013
– New guidance on line

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First Aid – October 2013
– Needs assessment to identify level of first aid provision
…..and a changed regulator?
Where we are now?

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Resource & Inspector focus on high risk sectors
– construction, agriculture, some manufacturing,
waste and recycling, quarrying
– fewer inspections

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Fewer inspectors and policy staff
– maintain investigation & enforcement activity

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Charging regime for ‘material breach’
No Infoline – refreshed website
More attention to myth-busting and rebuttals
…..and in schools
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Asbestos management – access to competent advice;
management plans; information

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Building maintenance – refurbishment, work at height staff and contractors

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Slips, trips and falls – cleaning regimes; kitchens
Vehicle movements – contractors; deliveries
Working with government departments to give clear
message on real risk in schools
Updated and new guidance
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SSERC – sensible health and safety

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Work experience
– guidance revised

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High level statements – eg play and leisure

RIDDOR –
– revised October 2013
– ASN - revised web guidance
– Slips & trips – new web guidance on the way

Asbestos – frequently asked questions; checklist
Health and safety leadership in your
school
Quick health check

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In your school……..

1.

Health and safety is about:
A. Providing a framework to ensure that
risks are prioritised, so that resources are
directed at significant risks
B. Ensuring that all risks and all activities
are assessed and recorded
C. To enable each individual member of
staff to deal with risk as they see fit – they
are professionals
In your school……..
2. The safety culture in your school:
A. All risks are eliminated to create an
environment of absolute safety
B. Pupils are allowed to experience risks in
a managed way
C. There isn’t a good understanding about
risks, priorities and risk management –
though we are very safety conscious
In your school……..
3. Making decisions about new activities:
A. Sometimes we have to say we can’t run an
event for health and safety reasons
B. Health and safety is not seen as a barrier to
activities. Rather than banning activities – we
make sure sensible solutions are identified
C. If we had to follow health and safety rules we
wouldn’t be able to do anything novel – so we
just ignore some rules
In your school……..
4. The Health and safety policy:
A. Is detailed guidance with requirements for
written procedures and rigorously
overseen with regular checklists or
audits.
B. Is site specific, practical and endorsed by
the senior team
C. Is generic, provided by the local authority
so does not need to school specific in any
way
In your school……..
5. Health and safety training
A. We aim to provide detailed training for all
activities so we are safe
B. Training and advice is provided to
support staff to enable them to control the
significant risks
C. All our members of staff are able to make
decisions without support and advice
In your school……..
6. Risk assessment:
A. Detailed written risk assessments are required
and provided for every activity. This is repeated
on annual basis
B. The precautions necessary for significant risks
are clearly documented – the actions staff need
to taken are straightforward and simple
C. Assessments are in place for most classroom
activities, but precautions for off site activities
have to be more fluid in nature
In your school……..
7. Involving staff:
A. Novel solutions suggested by our staff
are helpful – if only we were able to
implement them
B. Staff are consulted and involved in finding
practical and sensible solutions
C. We rely on our health and safety lead to
stay on top of our concerns
HSE’s intervention plan

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Collaborative working with stakeholders
The focus is on:
– Leadership
– Competence
– Dealing with real risk
– Tackling misunderstandings
In other words – sensible risk
management

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In schools, sensible health and safety:
– is about creating a safe learning environment
and allowing pupils to experience risk in a
managed way
– it is not about the elimination of all risk but
about doing what is reasonably practicable
and proportionate

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Fine words…
… but what does it mean in practice?
Strong health and safety leadership

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Encouraging stronger leadership and
understanding about sensible health and
safety

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Getting this right means:
• understanding the risks the school
faces
• understanding how to rank issues in
order of importance
• ensure controls are in place to
manage the real risks
Encouraging a balanced approach

School trips: www.hse.gov.uk/services/education/school-trips.htm
Tackling the myths
3 main types of stories:

Myths and blatant untruths
3 main types of stories:

Genuinely risk-averse behaviour
3 main types of stories:

Health and safety as a convenient excuse
Is a triangle more dangerous than a square?
HSE’s efforts to bust the myths and restore focus on
real risks

Putting the record straight
"We often come across half-baked decisions taken in the name of health
and safety, but this one takes the biscuit. The real issue isn't what
shape the flapjacks are, but the fact that pupils are throwing them at
each other – and that's a matter of discipline, and has got nothing to do
with health and safety as we know it. We're happy to make clear that
flapjacks of all shapes and sizes continue to have our full backing”

Judith Hackitt’s blog
Myth busting Challenge Panel
Myth busting
We can all help….

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Effective leadership – encourage focus on real risks
not trivia – proportionate risk management

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Provide relevant information for school managers,
head teachers, heads of departments, estates staff

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Sensible risk management for the next generation
Questions so far
In your school……..
1. Health and safety is about providing a
framework to ensure that risks are prioritised,
so that resources are directed at significant
risks.
In your school……..
2. The safety culture enables pupils to
experience risks in a managed way
In your school……..
3. Making decisions about new activities health and safety is not seen as a barrier to
activities. Rather than banning activities –
we make sure sensible solutions are
identified
In your school……..
4. The Health and safety policy is site specific,
practical and endorsed by the senior team.
In your school……..
5. Health and safety training is provided to
support staff to enable them to control the
significant risks in the school
In your school……..
6. Risk assessment in our school means the
precautions necessary to manage significant
risks are clearly documented – the actions
staff need to taken are straightforward and
simple
In your school……..
7. Involving staff - staff are consulted and
involved in finding practical and sensible
solutions
Myth busting

“School production cancelled because of health
and safety”
School production cancelled because lighting
operator had not attended ladder training course
Issue
• A school production, contributing to students GCSE exams
was not going ahead because the lighting operator had not
had attended a fixed ladder training course.
Panel decision
• This is not a proportionate or sensible decision and is an
unnecessarily rigid interpretation of working at height
regulations. It's a good idea to move the box in the longer
term and in the meantime ensure that anyone who
accesses the box takes reasonable and sensible
precautions.
Another example?
How would you deal with ……..?
Is it really about health and safety?

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Promoting the welfare and wellbeing of pupils
Communicable diseases
Behaviour and discipline of pupils
Criminal record checks
Food hygiene
Driving school minibus
Use of seat belts on buses
Waste and pollution control
Does it make sense

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Where do the precautions come from
– Legal requirement
– Internal policies or procedures
– External advice
– A local manager

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Do the precautions match

the actual risk?
What can you do about it?

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The right action has been taken, and
properly communicated

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The precautions are sensible – but were
not properly explained

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The precautions are disproportionately
high for the level of risk

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The risk is not managed
Finally

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Find out if it really is a health and safety concern
Look for health and safety solutions - not for obstacles
Ensure that your precautions pass the test of being sensible and
proportionate
Communicate your risk management decisions clearly and honestly.

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AHDS2013 WS14 HSE

  • 1. Health and Safety Executive Sensible health and safety management in schools AHDS Annual Conference – 8 November 2013 David Bryant Public Services Sector Health and Safety Executive
  • 2. Today’s workshop 1. Our priorities 2. Health and safety in your school – health check 3. Sensible health and safety in schools – any different from strong leadership? 4. Myth busting 5. What did I miss out?
  • 3. The reform agenda • • • • • Common Sense Common Safety – Oct 2010 Good health and safety, good for everyone - March 2011 Red Tape Challenge - April 2011 Löfstedt - Independent review - Nov 2011 and Jan 2013 Triennial Review Outcomes • • • • Refreshed regulatory framework A changed regulator Increased media and public focus on burdens Strategy remains relevant
  • 4. Refreshed regulatory framework Some key aspects: • • Simplify legislation • • Extend cost recovery Streamline and simplify guidance - Review of ACoPs Reduce burden – RIDDOR reports – Some exemption for self-employed – easier to find competent consultants
  • 5. Progress so far • Management Regulations – Health and safety management /Learn • Accident reporting – October 2013 – New guidance on line • First Aid – October 2013 – Needs assessment to identify level of first aid provision
  • 6. …..and a changed regulator? Where we are now? • Resource & Inspector focus on high risk sectors – construction, agriculture, some manufacturing, waste and recycling, quarrying – fewer inspections • Fewer inspectors and policy staff – maintain investigation & enforcement activity • • • Charging regime for ‘material breach’ No Infoline – refreshed website More attention to myth-busting and rebuttals
  • 7. …..and in schools • Asbestos management – access to competent advice; management plans; information • Building maintenance – refurbishment, work at height staff and contractors • • • Slips, trips and falls – cleaning regimes; kitchens Vehicle movements – contractors; deliveries Working with government departments to give clear message on real risk in schools
  • 8. Updated and new guidance • • SSERC – sensible health and safety • Work experience – guidance revised • • High level statements – eg play and leisure RIDDOR – – revised October 2013 – ASN - revised web guidance – Slips & trips – new web guidance on the way Asbestos – frequently asked questions; checklist
  • 9. Health and safety leadership in your school Quick health check 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. A B C A B C A B C A B C A B C A B C A B C
  • 10. In your school…….. 1. Health and safety is about: A. Providing a framework to ensure that risks are prioritised, so that resources are directed at significant risks B. Ensuring that all risks and all activities are assessed and recorded C. To enable each individual member of staff to deal with risk as they see fit – they are professionals
  • 11. In your school…….. 2. The safety culture in your school: A. All risks are eliminated to create an environment of absolute safety B. Pupils are allowed to experience risks in a managed way C. There isn’t a good understanding about risks, priorities and risk management – though we are very safety conscious
  • 12. In your school…….. 3. Making decisions about new activities: A. Sometimes we have to say we can’t run an event for health and safety reasons B. Health and safety is not seen as a barrier to activities. Rather than banning activities – we make sure sensible solutions are identified C. If we had to follow health and safety rules we wouldn’t be able to do anything novel – so we just ignore some rules
  • 13. In your school…….. 4. The Health and safety policy: A. Is detailed guidance with requirements for written procedures and rigorously overseen with regular checklists or audits. B. Is site specific, practical and endorsed by the senior team C. Is generic, provided by the local authority so does not need to school specific in any way
  • 14. In your school…….. 5. Health and safety training A. We aim to provide detailed training for all activities so we are safe B. Training and advice is provided to support staff to enable them to control the significant risks C. All our members of staff are able to make decisions without support and advice
  • 15. In your school…….. 6. Risk assessment: A. Detailed written risk assessments are required and provided for every activity. This is repeated on annual basis B. The precautions necessary for significant risks are clearly documented – the actions staff need to taken are straightforward and simple C. Assessments are in place for most classroom activities, but precautions for off site activities have to be more fluid in nature
  • 16. In your school…….. 7. Involving staff: A. Novel solutions suggested by our staff are helpful – if only we were able to implement them B. Staff are consulted and involved in finding practical and sensible solutions C. We rely on our health and safety lead to stay on top of our concerns
  • 17. HSE’s intervention plan • • Collaborative working with stakeholders The focus is on: – Leadership – Competence – Dealing with real risk – Tackling misunderstandings
  • 18. In other words – sensible risk management • In schools, sensible health and safety: – is about creating a safe learning environment and allowing pupils to experience risk in a managed way – it is not about the elimination of all risk but about doing what is reasonably practicable and proportionate • Fine words… … but what does it mean in practice?
  • 19. Strong health and safety leadership • Encouraging stronger leadership and understanding about sensible health and safety • Getting this right means: • understanding the risks the school faces • understanding how to rank issues in order of importance • ensure controls are in place to manage the real risks
  • 20. Encouraging a balanced approach School trips: www.hse.gov.uk/services/education/school-trips.htm
  • 22. 3 main types of stories: Myths and blatant untruths
  • 23. 3 main types of stories: Genuinely risk-averse behaviour
  • 24. 3 main types of stories: Health and safety as a convenient excuse
  • 25. Is a triangle more dangerous than a square?
  • 26. HSE’s efforts to bust the myths and restore focus on real risks Putting the record straight "We often come across half-baked decisions taken in the name of health and safety, but this one takes the biscuit. The real issue isn't what shape the flapjacks are, but the fact that pupils are throwing them at each other – and that's a matter of discipline, and has got nothing to do with health and safety as we know it. We're happy to make clear that flapjacks of all shapes and sizes continue to have our full backing” Judith Hackitt’s blog Myth busting Challenge Panel
  • 27. Myth busting We can all help…. • Effective leadership – encourage focus on real risks not trivia – proportionate risk management • Provide relevant information for school managers, head teachers, heads of departments, estates staff • Sensible risk management for the next generation
  • 29. In your school…….. 1. Health and safety is about providing a framework to ensure that risks are prioritised, so that resources are directed at significant risks.
  • 30. In your school…….. 2. The safety culture enables pupils to experience risks in a managed way
  • 31. In your school…….. 3. Making decisions about new activities health and safety is not seen as a barrier to activities. Rather than banning activities – we make sure sensible solutions are identified
  • 32. In your school…….. 4. The Health and safety policy is site specific, practical and endorsed by the senior team.
  • 33. In your school…….. 5. Health and safety training is provided to support staff to enable them to control the significant risks in the school
  • 34. In your school…….. 6. Risk assessment in our school means the precautions necessary to manage significant risks are clearly documented – the actions staff need to taken are straightforward and simple
  • 35. In your school…….. 7. Involving staff - staff are consulted and involved in finding practical and sensible solutions
  • 36. Myth busting “School production cancelled because of health and safety”
  • 37. School production cancelled because lighting operator had not attended ladder training course Issue • A school production, contributing to students GCSE exams was not going ahead because the lighting operator had not had attended a fixed ladder training course. Panel decision • This is not a proportionate or sensible decision and is an unnecessarily rigid interpretation of working at height regulations. It's a good idea to move the box in the longer term and in the meantime ensure that anyone who accesses the box takes reasonable and sensible precautions.
  • 39. How would you deal with ……..?
  • 40. Is it really about health and safety? • • • • • • • • Promoting the welfare and wellbeing of pupils Communicable diseases Behaviour and discipline of pupils Criminal record checks Food hygiene Driving school minibus Use of seat belts on buses Waste and pollution control
  • 41. Does it make sense • Where do the precautions come from – Legal requirement – Internal policies or procedures – External advice – A local manager • Do the precautions match the actual risk?
  • 42. What can you do about it? • The right action has been taken, and properly communicated • The precautions are sensible – but were not properly explained • The precautions are disproportionately high for the level of risk • The risk is not managed
  • 43. Finally • • • • Find out if it really is a health and safety concern Look for health and safety solutions - not for obstacles Ensure that your precautions pass the test of being sensible and proportionate Communicate your risk management decisions clearly and honestly.

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