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Dr. Watson “This note is indeed a mystery. What do you  imagine  that it means?” Sherlock Holmes:  “ I have no data yet.  It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data.  Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories,  instead of theories to suit facts.” From (1887):  A Scandal in Bohemia Sir Arthur Conan Doyle EVIDENCE-Based- Medicine...or Diagnosis…or “decisions” Diagnosing  DISEASE in a Vaccinated Population 2010 BIVI Pre-AASV Conference KJ Schwartz
Objectives ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Disease  Abnormal  structure ….remember anatomy / pathology  OR abnormal  function …remember physiology / clinical Observable or measurable With some clinical significance
Disease:  Abnormal structure ….remember anatomy / pathology  OR abnormal function …remember physiology  With some clinical significance ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Disease:  Abnormal structure ….remember anatomy / pathology  OR abnormal function …remember physiology  With some clinical significance ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Disease:  Abnormal structure ….remember anatomy / pathology  OR abnormal function …remember physiology  With some clinical significance ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
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Look for what we know
 
Why are two “identical” farms not the same? Because they are not: perceptions and limits of detection We see the summation of risk factors interacting with endemic agents
Need an understanding of biology;  it’s the basis for “thinking”  Are we  educated  or are we  trained ?   Diagnostic Testing: What are you looking for?  How is it detected?  Analyte Type Test types Basis for Testing Visualize agent microscopy, electron microscopy you can "see it" Detect viable agent bacterial isolation, virus isolation, bioassay it grows Detect  Antigen IHC, agELISA, FAT uses specific antibody Detect Nucleic acid PCR, ISH Uses very specific short chunk of nucleic acid Detect  Antibody ELISA, FFN, CF, IFA, Agglutination, HI, VN uses known antigen Detect Chemical/element/toxin GC, AA, ICPMS, ELISA analytical chemistry
PCV2 and Mh are endemic infections General Comment: Diagnosis in NON-vaccinated  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
PCV2 and Mh are endemic infections General Comment: Diagnosis in NON-vaccinated  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Generalities: Diagnosis in VACCINATED (Agent and vaccine dependant: assuming killed)
Thorough and Objective Assessment
Diagnosis of PCV2-Associated  Disease  in an Individual Pig ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Problems in diagnosis of PCVAD in an individual pig ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Liver  What effect? Kidney How do we know if lesions / staining elsewhere is important? We don’t…………but maybe the pig does. How much lesion or staining is enough? Was the pig sick?...diarrhea? / wasting? Did we do a thorough workup? Did we find other potential causes? Agents can have subtle, yet real, effects PRRSV   increase in pre-weaning diarrhea
How much lesion or staining is enough? -Was the pig sick?...diarrhea? / wasting? -Did we do a thorough workup? -Did we find other potential causes? Agents can have subtle, yet real, effects PRRSV   increase in pre-weaning diarrhea
 
Diagnosis of PCVAD in non-vaccinated  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Diagnosis of PCVAD in Vaccinated
PCV2 Summary ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
M hyo Diagnosis (DX code) from ISU VDL 2003  2004  2005  2006  2007  2008  2009
Diagnosis by Mhyo by month
Sorting out agents Do you expect to find endemic agents? Lesions? Tests? Impact on individual? Herd? Most common answer in biology:  “It depends”
Diagnosis of Mhyo in non-vaccinated  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Diagnosis of Mhyo in non-vaccinated  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Lesions are NOT Pathognomonic
Diagnosis of Mhyo in vaccinated  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Lesions are NOT Pathognomonic
Mhyo summary: Diagnostic questions in two categories ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Disease and Diagnosis: Magic Protocol ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Disease  and  Diagnosis : Magic Protocol ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]

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  • 1. Dr. Watson “This note is indeed a mystery. What do you imagine that it means?” Sherlock Holmes: “ I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.” From (1887): A Scandal in Bohemia Sir Arthur Conan Doyle EVIDENCE-Based- Medicine...or Diagnosis…or “decisions” Diagnosing DISEASE in a Vaccinated Population 2010 BIVI Pre-AASV Conference KJ Schwartz
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  • 3. Disease Abnormal structure ….remember anatomy / pathology OR abnormal function …remember physiology / clinical Observable or measurable With some clinical significance
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  • 11. Why are two “identical” farms not the same? Because they are not: perceptions and limits of detection We see the summation of risk factors interacting with endemic agents
  • 12. Need an understanding of biology; it’s the basis for “thinking” Are we educated or are we trained ? Diagnostic Testing: What are you looking for? How is it detected? Analyte Type Test types Basis for Testing Visualize agent microscopy, electron microscopy you can "see it" Detect viable agent bacterial isolation, virus isolation, bioassay it grows Detect Antigen IHC, agELISA, FAT uses specific antibody Detect Nucleic acid PCR, ISH Uses very specific short chunk of nucleic acid Detect Antibody ELISA, FFN, CF, IFA, Agglutination, HI, VN uses known antigen Detect Chemical/element/toxin GC, AA, ICPMS, ELISA analytical chemistry
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  • 15. Generalities: Diagnosis in VACCINATED (Agent and vaccine dependant: assuming killed)
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  • 19. Liver What effect? Kidney How do we know if lesions / staining elsewhere is important? We don’t…………but maybe the pig does. How much lesion or staining is enough? Was the pig sick?...diarrhea? / wasting? Did we do a thorough workup? Did we find other potential causes? Agents can have subtle, yet real, effects PRRSV  increase in pre-weaning diarrhea
  • 20. How much lesion or staining is enough? -Was the pig sick?...diarrhea? / wasting? -Did we do a thorough workup? -Did we find other potential causes? Agents can have subtle, yet real, effects PRRSV  increase in pre-weaning diarrhea
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  • 25. M hyo Diagnosis (DX code) from ISU VDL 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
  • 26. Diagnosis by Mhyo by month
  • 27. Sorting out agents Do you expect to find endemic agents? Lesions? Tests? Impact on individual? Herd? Most common answer in biology: “It depends”
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