SlideShare a Scribd company logo
1 of 34
Is better measurement the solution?
The case of ‘SES’ and ‘age’
Federica Russo
Center Leo Apostel, VrijeUniversiteitBrussel
Centre for Reasoning, University of Kent
Overview
Measurement in social science
Some classic and more recent discussions
A common theme: better measurement is better
Measuring ‘SES’ and ‘Age’
Challenges in measurement and interpretation
Challenges to the theme: better measurement is not always the
solution
Integrating qualitative and quantitative methods
Observe on small scale before you measure
Measure on large scale based on observation
2
MEASUREMENT IN SOCIAL SCIENCE
3
A theory of measurement
Suppes 1998
Two problems for measurement:
The problem of representation
Attach a number to an ‘object’
Look at the structure of the theory, and yet …
The problem of determining the procedure
The choice of the scale also depends on theory
4
The focus on procedural aspects
Zeller and Carmines 1980
Follow Blalock:
measurement is the process of linking abstract concepts to
empirical indicators
The possibility to answer research questions depends on
robustness of our measurement procedures
Measurement procedures above theorising
5
Measurement and realism
Cartwright and Chang 2008
Practitioner’s problem: whether measurements are correct
Philosopher’s problem: whether we measure what we want to measure
Nominalism conventionalism OR operationalism
Naïve realism  problem of justification and nomic measurement
In social science
Suppes’ measurement theory solves representation problem and leaves
open procedure problem
howto measure a concept within a theory
Variability and contingency of concepts to measure
Non value-free measurements
6
Realism and indicators
Bohrnstedt
In social science there are some clear and tangible measures
E.g. age, birth, number of children, marital status …
For more blurred concepts
Observe the covariation between indicators, and infer their reality
7
Establishing a trend
The worry
What do we measure? Is it real?
The solution
It must be real, somehow
The better we measure the better we represent ‘real’ objects
8
Is it always the case?
Is realism the problem?
And is better measurement the solution?
Measurement itself, especially if carried out using
sophisticated instruments or analysed using complex
methodology, is seen to have the attributes of
‘science’, and often taken effectively as a
justification for believing the resultsthat
are presented as if they have a meaningful
relation to whatever social process they
are claimed to measure.
Harvey Goldstein 2012
10
MEASURING
SOCIO-ECONOMIC STATUS AND AGE
11
At the extremes of measurement,
a common problem
Age
• Very easy to measure
• What does it represent?
• Does it have any
explanatory import?
SES
• Very controversial how we
should measure it
• What does it represent?
• What is its import in
explanation of social or
social / health outcomes?
12
Measuring ‘Ballung’ concepts
Cartwright and Bradburn
Measurement requirements:
Characterisation; Representation; Procedure
Concepts
Refer to a single quantity
Have unclear boundaries and relations (Ballung)
They hinder a development of social science into ‘proper’ science
How to represent Ballung concepts
“One is to represent them with a table or vector of features laying out the
dimensions along which the family resemblances in question lie […] The other
is to shed much of the original meaning and zero in on some more precisely
definable feature from the congestion that constitutes the concept.”
Then, go ahead with chosen procedure
13
Measuring SES
Theoretical approaches
Weberian, Marxist, Colemanian
Identification of different indicators,
different types of variables
Class stratification
Goldthorpe Class Schema
Grouping of types of workers
14
What do we need SES for?
Consider social epidemiology
SES is highly correlated with health outcomes
Asbestos related deaths in Barking
Cancer related deaths in Eternit workers
Cancer incidence in Taranto
…
15
What does SES do?
Categorise?
A classificatory variable
What part of the populations are more exposed, have higher
prevalence …
Explain?
Active part in the explanation of diseases
Mixed aetiology!
What are the active causal pathways from exposure to
outcome?
Social practices / norms / habits to explain (and to prevent) exposure
16
Which one to choose?
Measurement – categorisation – explanation
Measurement, alone, does not explain
Measurement, alone, only categorises
Include SES to explain a phenomenon
17
Measuring age
Easy to measure
Accessibility of data, straightforward question, …
Choose to measure
Categorically
Continuously
Easy data to get – use it!
18
Typical uses of ‘age’
Control
Adjust results of statistical analyses (control for age)
Predict
Age structure helps predict results
Categorise
grouping and collapsing multiple categories
into fewer categories
Care with loss of information, residual confounding
19
What age stands for
Biological age
A typical health status, for that age
Social age
Social practices that are typical of that age
…
Any explanatory import?
20
SOURCES OF INFORMATION
21
Where do we get
the information from?
Quantitative studies
Large samples, large data sets
Correlations to be validated
The bigger the better, the more precise the better
22
Where do we get
the information from?
Qualitative studies
Small samples, small numbers
Detailed description of practices
Small does not allow generalisation
23
Establishing a trend
Sample:
The bigger the better
Measurement
The more precise the better
24
Should we alwaysfollowthis trend?
The ‘extra’ information
that statistics does not give us
Description of
Practices
Interactions
Influences
Background
Norms
…
GO small FIRST!
26
The information that
statistics does give us
Categorise the ‘practices, interactions,
backgrounds, …’ into measurable variables
Is it generalisable?
An empirical question!
Now go BIG!
27
TO SUM UP
28
Traditional problem of measurement in social science
The trend: justify naïve realism by better measurement
Question the trend through two examples
SES and Age
One step back
Where do we get information
Focus on explanation rather than realism
We may need to describe before measuring
29
TO CONCLUDE
30
Better measurement is not necessarily panacea
To measure better we need to describe better
Difficulty: not just a social science trend
Oppose the trend in requests from policymakers
What is evidence
What information we can trust
What methods we can trust
31
What / why do we measure?
In the area of data collection and presentation at the present
time, likewise, there seems little ground for optimism. Even in those
societies, such as parts of Australia, where crude league tables used
to be eschewed, increasing political and commercial pressures
seem to be gaining the upper hand. New technologies such as
powerful dynamic computer graphics do have the potential to
convey findings and patterns in powerful ways, but whether
they are used to inform rather than merely
impress, remains an open question.
Perhaps the most that one can hope for is that we could reflect
more on Galton and his legacy. In particular, a better understanding
is needed of the difference between data that ‘confirms’ a
theory by providing a good model fit, and data that
allows us to explain observed data patternsusing
as much potentially falsifiable information as possible.
Harvey Goldstein 2012
32
REFERENCES
33
George W. Bohrnstedt, An Overview of Measurement in the Social Sciences.
http://www7.nationalacademies.org/dbasse/Measurement_in_Social_Sciences.pdf
Burt R. 1991 Measuring age as a structural concept. Social Networks 13
Cartwright N. and Chang H. 2008 Measurement, in The Routledge Companion to
Philosophy of Science, pp. 367-375.
Cartwright N. and Bradburn N., A theory of
measurement.http://www7.nationalacademies.org/dbasse/Common%20Metrics_Me
asurement_for_Science_and_Policy.pdf
Goldstein H. 2012. Francis Galton, measurement, psychometrics and social progress.
Assessment in Education: Principles, Policy &PracticeVol. 19, No. 2
Marks G. The measurment of socioeconomic status and social class in the LSAY project.
Technical Paper http://www.acer.edu.au/documents/LSAY_techrep14.pdf
Reijneveld S A 1998 Age in epidemiological analysis, J Epidemiol Community Health
2003;57
Suppes P. 1998 Theory of Measurement. E. Craig (Ed.), Routledge Encyclopedia of
Philosophy. pp. 243-249.
Zeller and Carmines 1980. Measurement in the social sciences. The link between theory
and practice. CUP 34

More Related Content

Similar to Russo measurment rovaniemi

Group 12_ Qualitative Data Analysis.pptx
Group 12_ Qualitative Data Analysis.pptxGroup 12_ Qualitative Data Analysis.pptx
Group 12_ Qualitative Data Analysis.pptxogie6
 
Relevance of statistics sgd-slideshare
Relevance of statistics sgd-slideshareRelevance of statistics sgd-slideshare
Relevance of statistics sgd-slideshareSanjeev Deshmukh
 
How to Write Research Proposal.ppt
How to Write Research Proposal.pptHow to Write Research Proposal.ppt
How to Write Research Proposal.pptssuser953e981
 
Marketing Research: Quantitative Research(data - survey)
Marketing Research: Quantitative Research(data - survey)Marketing Research: Quantitative Research(data - survey)
Marketing Research: Quantitative Research(data - survey)Rubayet Hassan
 
A politics of counting - putting people back into big data
A politics of counting - putting people back into big dataA politics of counting - putting people back into big data
A politics of counting - putting people back into big dataHamish Robertson
 
Data analysis presentation by Jameel Ahmed Qureshi
Data analysis presentation by Jameel Ahmed QureshiData analysis presentation by Jameel Ahmed Qureshi
Data analysis presentation by Jameel Ahmed QureshiJameel Ahmed Qureshi
 
T3Methods for CBPRDoes CBPR add value to health r.docx
T3Methods for CBPRDoes CBPR add value to health r.docxT3Methods for CBPRDoes CBPR add value to health r.docx
T3Methods for CBPRDoes CBPR add value to health r.docxssuserf9c51d
 
Qualitative research
Qualitative researchQualitative research
Qualitative researchNimra zaman
 
Addressing Large, Complex, Unstructured Problems
Addressing Large, Complex, Unstructured ProblemsAddressing Large, Complex, Unstructured Problems
Addressing Large, Complex, Unstructured Problemsalexadibenedetto
 
Asynchronous Formal Class Discussion Board Rubric   Exem.docx
Asynchronous Formal Class Discussion Board Rubric   Exem.docxAsynchronous Formal Class Discussion Board Rubric   Exem.docx
Asynchronous Formal Class Discussion Board Rubric   Exem.docxrock73
 
Chapter 1 Social Research
Chapter 1 Social ResearchChapter 1 Social Research
Chapter 1 Social Researcharpsychology
 
Seminari CRICC : Avaluació de la recerca.
Seminari CRICC : Avaluació de la recerca. Seminari CRICC : Avaluació de la recerca.
Seminari CRICC : Avaluació de la recerca. cricc
 
What Works
What WorksWhat Works
What Workshullpgce
 
MAEKINTING ENVIRONMENT Marketers knowledge on external en.docx
MAEKINTING  ENVIRONMENT Marketers knowledge on external en.docxMAEKINTING  ENVIRONMENT Marketers knowledge on external en.docx
MAEKINTING ENVIRONMENT Marketers knowledge on external en.docxsmile790243
 
E D 203, Month #1, Sept 12, 09, Updated
E D 203,  Month #1,  Sept 12, 09,  UpdatedE D 203,  Month #1,  Sept 12, 09,  Updated
E D 203, Month #1, Sept 12, 09, Updatedjuliemn
 

Similar to Russo measurment rovaniemi (20)

Group 12_ Qualitative Data Analysis.pptx
Group 12_ Qualitative Data Analysis.pptxGroup 12_ Qualitative Data Analysis.pptx
Group 12_ Qualitative Data Analysis.pptx
 
Relevance of statistics sgd-slideshare
Relevance of statistics sgd-slideshareRelevance of statistics sgd-slideshare
Relevance of statistics sgd-slideshare
 
How to Write Research Proposal.ppt
How to Write Research Proposal.pptHow to Write Research Proposal.ppt
How to Write Research Proposal.ppt
 
Marketing Research: Quantitative Research(data - survey)
Marketing Research: Quantitative Research(data - survey)Marketing Research: Quantitative Research(data - survey)
Marketing Research: Quantitative Research(data - survey)
 
A politics of counting - putting people back into big data
A politics of counting - putting people back into big dataA politics of counting - putting people back into big data
A politics of counting - putting people back into big data
 
Data analysis presentation by Jameel Ahmed Qureshi
Data analysis presentation by Jameel Ahmed QureshiData analysis presentation by Jameel Ahmed Qureshi
Data analysis presentation by Jameel Ahmed Qureshi
 
T3Methods for CBPRDoes CBPR add value to health r.docx
T3Methods for CBPRDoes CBPR add value to health r.docxT3Methods for CBPRDoes CBPR add value to health r.docx
T3Methods for CBPRDoes CBPR add value to health r.docx
 
Qualitative research
Qualitative researchQualitative research
Qualitative research
 
Methodology Essay
Methodology EssayMethodology Essay
Methodology Essay
 
Addressing Large, Complex, Unstructured Problems
Addressing Large, Complex, Unstructured ProblemsAddressing Large, Complex, Unstructured Problems
Addressing Large, Complex, Unstructured Problems
 
Asynchronous Formal Class Discussion Board Rubric   Exem.docx
Asynchronous Formal Class Discussion Board Rubric   Exem.docxAsynchronous Formal Class Discussion Board Rubric   Exem.docx
Asynchronous Formal Class Discussion Board Rubric   Exem.docx
 
ARM - 1.ppt
ARM - 1.pptARM - 1.ppt
ARM - 1.ppt
 
Chapter 1 Social Research
Chapter 1 Social ResearchChapter 1 Social Research
Chapter 1 Social Research
 
Seminari CRICC : Avaluació de la recerca.
Seminari CRICC : Avaluació de la recerca. Seminari CRICC : Avaluació de la recerca.
Seminari CRICC : Avaluació de la recerca.
 
What Works
What WorksWhat Works
What Works
 
Research methods and paradigms
Research methods and paradigmsResearch methods and paradigms
Research methods and paradigms
 
MAEKINTING ENVIRONMENT Marketers knowledge on external en.docx
MAEKINTING  ENVIRONMENT Marketers knowledge on external en.docxMAEKINTING  ENVIRONMENT Marketers knowledge on external en.docx
MAEKINTING ENVIRONMENT Marketers knowledge on external en.docx
 
Introduction+to+research
Introduction+to+researchIntroduction+to+research
Introduction+to+research
 
Research unit booklet
Research unit bookletResearch unit booklet
Research unit booklet
 
E D 203, Month #1, Sept 12, 09, Updated
E D 203,  Month #1,  Sept 12, 09,  UpdatedE D 203,  Month #1,  Sept 12, 09,  Updated
E D 203, Month #1, Sept 12, 09, Updated
 

More from University of Amsterdam and University College London

More from University of Amsterdam and University College London (20)

H-AI-BRID - Thinking and designing Human-AI systems
H-AI-BRID - Thinking and designing Human-AI systemsH-AI-BRID - Thinking and designing Human-AI systems
H-AI-BRID - Thinking and designing Human-AI systems
 
Time in QCA: a philosopher’s perspective
Time in QCA: a philosopher’s perspectiveTime in QCA: a philosopher’s perspective
Time in QCA: a philosopher’s perspective
 
Interconnected health-environmental challenges: Between the implosion of the ...
Interconnected health-environmental challenges: Between the implosion of the ...Interconnected health-environmental challenges: Between the implosion of the ...
Interconnected health-environmental challenges: Between the implosion of the ...
 
Trusting AI-generated contents: a techno-scientific approach
Trusting AI-generated contents: a techno-scientific approachTrusting AI-generated contents: a techno-scientific approach
Trusting AI-generated contents: a techno-scientific approach
 
Interconnected health-environmental challenges, Health and the Environment: c...
Interconnected health-environmental challenges, Health and the Environment: c...Interconnected health-environmental challenges, Health and the Environment: c...
Interconnected health-environmental challenges, Health and the Environment: c...
 
Who Needs “Philosophy of Techno- Science”?
Who Needs “Philosophy of Techno- Science”?Who Needs “Philosophy of Techno- Science”?
Who Needs “Philosophy of Techno- Science”?
 
Philosophy of Techno-Science: Whence and Whither
Philosophy of Techno-Science: Whence and WhitherPhilosophy of Techno-Science: Whence and Whither
Philosophy of Techno-Science: Whence and Whither
 
Charting the explanatory potential of network models/network modeling in psyc...
Charting the explanatory potential of network models/network modeling in psyc...Charting the explanatory potential of network models/network modeling in psyc...
Charting the explanatory potential of network models/network modeling in psyc...
 
The implosion of medical evidence: emerging approaches for diverse practices ...
The implosion of medical evidence: emerging approaches for diverse practices ...The implosion of medical evidence: emerging approaches for diverse practices ...
The implosion of medical evidence: emerging approaches for diverse practices ...
 
On the epistemic and normative benefits of methodological pluralism
On the epistemic and normative benefits of methodological pluralismOn the epistemic and normative benefits of methodological pluralism
On the epistemic and normative benefits of methodological pluralism
 
Socio-markers and information transmission
Socio-markers and information transmissionSocio-markers and information transmission
Socio-markers and information transmission
 
Disease causation and public health interventions
Disease causation and public health interventionsDisease causation and public health interventions
Disease causation and public health interventions
 
The life-world of health and disease and the design of public health interven...
The life-world of health and disease and the design of public health interven...The life-world of health and disease and the design of public health interven...
The life-world of health and disease and the design of public health interven...
 
Towards and epistemological and ethical XAI
Towards and epistemological and ethical XAITowards and epistemological and ethical XAI
Towards and epistemological and ethical XAI
 
Value-promoting concepts in the health sciences and public health
Value-promoting concepts in the health sciences and public healthValue-promoting concepts in the health sciences and public health
Value-promoting concepts in the health sciences and public health
 
Connecting the epistemology and ethics of AI
Connecting the epistemology and ethics of AIConnecting the epistemology and ethics of AI
Connecting the epistemology and ethics of AI
 
How is Who. Empowering evidence for sustainability and public health interven...
How is Who. Empowering evidence for sustainability and public health interven...How is Who. Empowering evidence for sustainability and public health interven...
How is Who. Empowering evidence for sustainability and public health interven...
 
High technologized justice – The road map for policy & regulation. Legaltech ...
High technologized justice – The road map for policy & regulation. Legaltech ...High technologized justice – The road map for policy & regulation. Legaltech ...
High technologized justice – The road map for policy & regulation. Legaltech ...
 
Connecting the epistemology and ethics of AI
Connecting the epistemology and ethics of AIConnecting the epistemology and ethics of AI
Connecting the epistemology and ethics of AI
 
Science and values. A two-way relations
Science and values. A two-way relationsScience and values. A two-way relations
Science and values. A two-way relations
 

Recently uploaded

Histor y of HAM Radio presentation slide
Histor y of HAM Radio presentation slideHistor y of HAM Radio presentation slide
Histor y of HAM Radio presentation slidevu2urc
 
Mastering MySQL Database Architecture: Deep Dive into MySQL Shell and MySQL R...
Mastering MySQL Database Architecture: Deep Dive into MySQL Shell and MySQL R...Mastering MySQL Database Architecture: Deep Dive into MySQL Shell and MySQL R...
Mastering MySQL Database Architecture: Deep Dive into MySQL Shell and MySQL R...Miguel Araújo
 
Understanding the Laravel MVC Architecture
Understanding the Laravel MVC ArchitectureUnderstanding the Laravel MVC Architecture
Understanding the Laravel MVC ArchitecturePixlogix Infotech
 
Google AI Hackathon: LLM based Evaluator for RAG
Google AI Hackathon: LLM based Evaluator for RAGGoogle AI Hackathon: LLM based Evaluator for RAG
Google AI Hackathon: LLM based Evaluator for RAGSujit Pal
 
Maximizing Board Effectiveness 2024 Webinar.pptx
Maximizing Board Effectiveness 2024 Webinar.pptxMaximizing Board Effectiveness 2024 Webinar.pptx
Maximizing Board Effectiveness 2024 Webinar.pptxOnBoard
 
The Codex of Business Writing Software for Real-World Solutions 2.pptx
The Codex of Business Writing Software for Real-World Solutions 2.pptxThe Codex of Business Writing Software for Real-World Solutions 2.pptx
The Codex of Business Writing Software for Real-World Solutions 2.pptxMalak Abu Hammad
 
Strategies for Unlocking Knowledge Management in Microsoft 365 in the Copilot...
Strategies for Unlocking Knowledge Management in Microsoft 365 in the Copilot...Strategies for Unlocking Knowledge Management in Microsoft 365 in the Copilot...
Strategies for Unlocking Knowledge Management in Microsoft 365 in the Copilot...Drew Madelung
 
CNv6 Instructor Chapter 6 Quality of Service
CNv6 Instructor Chapter 6 Quality of ServiceCNv6 Instructor Chapter 6 Quality of Service
CNv6 Instructor Chapter 6 Quality of Servicegiselly40
 
A Domino Admins Adventures (Engage 2024)
A Domino Admins Adventures (Engage 2024)A Domino Admins Adventures (Engage 2024)
A Domino Admins Adventures (Engage 2024)Gabriella Davis
 
Swan(sea) Song – personal research during my six years at Swansea ... and bey...
Swan(sea) Song – personal research during my six years at Swansea ... and bey...Swan(sea) Song – personal research during my six years at Swansea ... and bey...
Swan(sea) Song – personal research during my six years at Swansea ... and bey...Alan Dix
 
WhatsApp 9892124323 ✓Call Girls In Kalyan ( Mumbai ) secure service
WhatsApp 9892124323 ✓Call Girls In Kalyan ( Mumbai ) secure serviceWhatsApp 9892124323 ✓Call Girls In Kalyan ( Mumbai ) secure service
WhatsApp 9892124323 ✓Call Girls In Kalyan ( Mumbai ) secure servicePooja Nehwal
 
Scaling API-first – The story of a global engineering organization
Scaling API-first – The story of a global engineering organizationScaling API-first – The story of a global engineering organization
Scaling API-first – The story of a global engineering organizationRadu Cotescu
 
The Role of Taxonomy and Ontology in Semantic Layers - Heather Hedden.pdf
The Role of Taxonomy and Ontology in Semantic Layers - Heather Hedden.pdfThe Role of Taxonomy and Ontology in Semantic Layers - Heather Hedden.pdf
The Role of Taxonomy and Ontology in Semantic Layers - Heather Hedden.pdfEnterprise Knowledge
 
Handwritten Text Recognition for manuscripts and early printed texts
Handwritten Text Recognition for manuscripts and early printed textsHandwritten Text Recognition for manuscripts and early printed texts
Handwritten Text Recognition for manuscripts and early printed textsMaria Levchenko
 
[2024]Digital Global Overview Report 2024 Meltwater.pdf
[2024]Digital Global Overview Report 2024 Meltwater.pdf[2024]Digital Global Overview Report 2024 Meltwater.pdf
[2024]Digital Global Overview Report 2024 Meltwater.pdfhans926745
 
Raspberry Pi 5: Challenges and Solutions in Bringing up an OpenGL/Vulkan Driv...
Raspberry Pi 5: Challenges and Solutions in Bringing up an OpenGL/Vulkan Driv...Raspberry Pi 5: Challenges and Solutions in Bringing up an OpenGL/Vulkan Driv...
Raspberry Pi 5: Challenges and Solutions in Bringing up an OpenGL/Vulkan Driv...Igalia
 
The 7 Things I Know About Cyber Security After 25 Years | April 2024
The 7 Things I Know About Cyber Security After 25 Years | April 2024The 7 Things I Know About Cyber Security After 25 Years | April 2024
The 7 Things I Know About Cyber Security After 25 Years | April 2024Rafal Los
 
SQL Database Design For Developers at php[tek] 2024
SQL Database Design For Developers at php[tek] 2024SQL Database Design For Developers at php[tek] 2024
SQL Database Design For Developers at php[tek] 2024Scott Keck-Warren
 
Kalyanpur ) Call Girls in Lucknow Finest Escorts Service 🍸 8923113531 🎰 Avail...
Kalyanpur ) Call Girls in Lucknow Finest Escorts Service 🍸 8923113531 🎰 Avail...Kalyanpur ) Call Girls in Lucknow Finest Escorts Service 🍸 8923113531 🎰 Avail...
Kalyanpur ) Call Girls in Lucknow Finest Escorts Service 🍸 8923113531 🎰 Avail...gurkirankumar98700
 
FULL ENJOY 🔝 8264348440 🔝 Call Girls in Diplomatic Enclave | Delhi
FULL ENJOY 🔝 8264348440 🔝 Call Girls in Diplomatic Enclave | DelhiFULL ENJOY 🔝 8264348440 🔝 Call Girls in Diplomatic Enclave | Delhi
FULL ENJOY 🔝 8264348440 🔝 Call Girls in Diplomatic Enclave | Delhisoniya singh
 

Recently uploaded (20)

Histor y of HAM Radio presentation slide
Histor y of HAM Radio presentation slideHistor y of HAM Radio presentation slide
Histor y of HAM Radio presentation slide
 
Mastering MySQL Database Architecture: Deep Dive into MySQL Shell and MySQL R...
Mastering MySQL Database Architecture: Deep Dive into MySQL Shell and MySQL R...Mastering MySQL Database Architecture: Deep Dive into MySQL Shell and MySQL R...
Mastering MySQL Database Architecture: Deep Dive into MySQL Shell and MySQL R...
 
Understanding the Laravel MVC Architecture
Understanding the Laravel MVC ArchitectureUnderstanding the Laravel MVC Architecture
Understanding the Laravel MVC Architecture
 
Google AI Hackathon: LLM based Evaluator for RAG
Google AI Hackathon: LLM based Evaluator for RAGGoogle AI Hackathon: LLM based Evaluator for RAG
Google AI Hackathon: LLM based Evaluator for RAG
 
Maximizing Board Effectiveness 2024 Webinar.pptx
Maximizing Board Effectiveness 2024 Webinar.pptxMaximizing Board Effectiveness 2024 Webinar.pptx
Maximizing Board Effectiveness 2024 Webinar.pptx
 
The Codex of Business Writing Software for Real-World Solutions 2.pptx
The Codex of Business Writing Software for Real-World Solutions 2.pptxThe Codex of Business Writing Software for Real-World Solutions 2.pptx
The Codex of Business Writing Software for Real-World Solutions 2.pptx
 
Strategies for Unlocking Knowledge Management in Microsoft 365 in the Copilot...
Strategies for Unlocking Knowledge Management in Microsoft 365 in the Copilot...Strategies for Unlocking Knowledge Management in Microsoft 365 in the Copilot...
Strategies for Unlocking Knowledge Management in Microsoft 365 in the Copilot...
 
CNv6 Instructor Chapter 6 Quality of Service
CNv6 Instructor Chapter 6 Quality of ServiceCNv6 Instructor Chapter 6 Quality of Service
CNv6 Instructor Chapter 6 Quality of Service
 
A Domino Admins Adventures (Engage 2024)
A Domino Admins Adventures (Engage 2024)A Domino Admins Adventures (Engage 2024)
A Domino Admins Adventures (Engage 2024)
 
Swan(sea) Song – personal research during my six years at Swansea ... and bey...
Swan(sea) Song – personal research during my six years at Swansea ... and bey...Swan(sea) Song – personal research during my six years at Swansea ... and bey...
Swan(sea) Song – personal research during my six years at Swansea ... and bey...
 
WhatsApp 9892124323 ✓Call Girls In Kalyan ( Mumbai ) secure service
WhatsApp 9892124323 ✓Call Girls In Kalyan ( Mumbai ) secure serviceWhatsApp 9892124323 ✓Call Girls In Kalyan ( Mumbai ) secure service
WhatsApp 9892124323 ✓Call Girls In Kalyan ( Mumbai ) secure service
 
Scaling API-first – The story of a global engineering organization
Scaling API-first – The story of a global engineering organizationScaling API-first – The story of a global engineering organization
Scaling API-first – The story of a global engineering organization
 
The Role of Taxonomy and Ontology in Semantic Layers - Heather Hedden.pdf
The Role of Taxonomy and Ontology in Semantic Layers - Heather Hedden.pdfThe Role of Taxonomy and Ontology in Semantic Layers - Heather Hedden.pdf
The Role of Taxonomy and Ontology in Semantic Layers - Heather Hedden.pdf
 
Handwritten Text Recognition for manuscripts and early printed texts
Handwritten Text Recognition for manuscripts and early printed textsHandwritten Text Recognition for manuscripts and early printed texts
Handwritten Text Recognition for manuscripts and early printed texts
 
[2024]Digital Global Overview Report 2024 Meltwater.pdf
[2024]Digital Global Overview Report 2024 Meltwater.pdf[2024]Digital Global Overview Report 2024 Meltwater.pdf
[2024]Digital Global Overview Report 2024 Meltwater.pdf
 
Raspberry Pi 5: Challenges and Solutions in Bringing up an OpenGL/Vulkan Driv...
Raspberry Pi 5: Challenges and Solutions in Bringing up an OpenGL/Vulkan Driv...Raspberry Pi 5: Challenges and Solutions in Bringing up an OpenGL/Vulkan Driv...
Raspberry Pi 5: Challenges and Solutions in Bringing up an OpenGL/Vulkan Driv...
 
The 7 Things I Know About Cyber Security After 25 Years | April 2024
The 7 Things I Know About Cyber Security After 25 Years | April 2024The 7 Things I Know About Cyber Security After 25 Years | April 2024
The 7 Things I Know About Cyber Security After 25 Years | April 2024
 
SQL Database Design For Developers at php[tek] 2024
SQL Database Design For Developers at php[tek] 2024SQL Database Design For Developers at php[tek] 2024
SQL Database Design For Developers at php[tek] 2024
 
Kalyanpur ) Call Girls in Lucknow Finest Escorts Service 🍸 8923113531 🎰 Avail...
Kalyanpur ) Call Girls in Lucknow Finest Escorts Service 🍸 8923113531 🎰 Avail...Kalyanpur ) Call Girls in Lucknow Finest Escorts Service 🍸 8923113531 🎰 Avail...
Kalyanpur ) Call Girls in Lucknow Finest Escorts Service 🍸 8923113531 🎰 Avail...
 
FULL ENJOY 🔝 8264348440 🔝 Call Girls in Diplomatic Enclave | Delhi
FULL ENJOY 🔝 8264348440 🔝 Call Girls in Diplomatic Enclave | DelhiFULL ENJOY 🔝 8264348440 🔝 Call Girls in Diplomatic Enclave | Delhi
FULL ENJOY 🔝 8264348440 🔝 Call Girls in Diplomatic Enclave | Delhi
 

Russo measurment rovaniemi

  • 1. Is better measurement the solution? The case of ‘SES’ and ‘age’ Federica Russo Center Leo Apostel, VrijeUniversiteitBrussel Centre for Reasoning, University of Kent
  • 2. Overview Measurement in social science Some classic and more recent discussions A common theme: better measurement is better Measuring ‘SES’ and ‘Age’ Challenges in measurement and interpretation Challenges to the theme: better measurement is not always the solution Integrating qualitative and quantitative methods Observe on small scale before you measure Measure on large scale based on observation 2
  • 4. A theory of measurement Suppes 1998 Two problems for measurement: The problem of representation Attach a number to an ‘object’ Look at the structure of the theory, and yet … The problem of determining the procedure The choice of the scale also depends on theory 4
  • 5. The focus on procedural aspects Zeller and Carmines 1980 Follow Blalock: measurement is the process of linking abstract concepts to empirical indicators The possibility to answer research questions depends on robustness of our measurement procedures Measurement procedures above theorising 5
  • 6. Measurement and realism Cartwright and Chang 2008 Practitioner’s problem: whether measurements are correct Philosopher’s problem: whether we measure what we want to measure Nominalism conventionalism OR operationalism Naïve realism  problem of justification and nomic measurement In social science Suppes’ measurement theory solves representation problem and leaves open procedure problem howto measure a concept within a theory Variability and contingency of concepts to measure Non value-free measurements 6
  • 7. Realism and indicators Bohrnstedt In social science there are some clear and tangible measures E.g. age, birth, number of children, marital status … For more blurred concepts Observe the covariation between indicators, and infer their reality 7
  • 8. Establishing a trend The worry What do we measure? Is it real? The solution It must be real, somehow The better we measure the better we represent ‘real’ objects 8
  • 9. Is it always the case? Is realism the problem? And is better measurement the solution?
  • 10. Measurement itself, especially if carried out using sophisticated instruments or analysed using complex methodology, is seen to have the attributes of ‘science’, and often taken effectively as a justification for believing the resultsthat are presented as if they have a meaningful relation to whatever social process they are claimed to measure. Harvey Goldstein 2012 10
  • 12. At the extremes of measurement, a common problem Age • Very easy to measure • What does it represent? • Does it have any explanatory import? SES • Very controversial how we should measure it • What does it represent? • What is its import in explanation of social or social / health outcomes? 12
  • 13. Measuring ‘Ballung’ concepts Cartwright and Bradburn Measurement requirements: Characterisation; Representation; Procedure Concepts Refer to a single quantity Have unclear boundaries and relations (Ballung) They hinder a development of social science into ‘proper’ science How to represent Ballung concepts “One is to represent them with a table or vector of features laying out the dimensions along which the family resemblances in question lie […] The other is to shed much of the original meaning and zero in on some more precisely definable feature from the congestion that constitutes the concept.” Then, go ahead with chosen procedure 13
  • 14. Measuring SES Theoretical approaches Weberian, Marxist, Colemanian Identification of different indicators, different types of variables Class stratification Goldthorpe Class Schema Grouping of types of workers 14
  • 15. What do we need SES for? Consider social epidemiology SES is highly correlated with health outcomes Asbestos related deaths in Barking Cancer related deaths in Eternit workers Cancer incidence in Taranto … 15
  • 16. What does SES do? Categorise? A classificatory variable What part of the populations are more exposed, have higher prevalence … Explain? Active part in the explanation of diseases Mixed aetiology! What are the active causal pathways from exposure to outcome? Social practices / norms / habits to explain (and to prevent) exposure 16
  • 17. Which one to choose? Measurement – categorisation – explanation Measurement, alone, does not explain Measurement, alone, only categorises Include SES to explain a phenomenon 17
  • 18. Measuring age Easy to measure Accessibility of data, straightforward question, … Choose to measure Categorically Continuously Easy data to get – use it! 18
  • 19. Typical uses of ‘age’ Control Adjust results of statistical analyses (control for age) Predict Age structure helps predict results Categorise grouping and collapsing multiple categories into fewer categories Care with loss of information, residual confounding 19
  • 20. What age stands for Biological age A typical health status, for that age Social age Social practices that are typical of that age … Any explanatory import? 20
  • 22. Where do we get the information from? Quantitative studies Large samples, large data sets Correlations to be validated The bigger the better, the more precise the better 22
  • 23. Where do we get the information from? Qualitative studies Small samples, small numbers Detailed description of practices Small does not allow generalisation 23
  • 24. Establishing a trend Sample: The bigger the better Measurement The more precise the better 24
  • 26. The ‘extra’ information that statistics does not give us Description of Practices Interactions Influences Background Norms … GO small FIRST! 26
  • 27. The information that statistics does give us Categorise the ‘practices, interactions, backgrounds, …’ into measurable variables Is it generalisable? An empirical question! Now go BIG! 27
  • 29. Traditional problem of measurement in social science The trend: justify naïve realism by better measurement Question the trend through two examples SES and Age One step back Where do we get information Focus on explanation rather than realism We may need to describe before measuring 29
  • 31. Better measurement is not necessarily panacea To measure better we need to describe better Difficulty: not just a social science trend Oppose the trend in requests from policymakers What is evidence What information we can trust What methods we can trust 31
  • 32. What / why do we measure? In the area of data collection and presentation at the present time, likewise, there seems little ground for optimism. Even in those societies, such as parts of Australia, where crude league tables used to be eschewed, increasing political and commercial pressures seem to be gaining the upper hand. New technologies such as powerful dynamic computer graphics do have the potential to convey findings and patterns in powerful ways, but whether they are used to inform rather than merely impress, remains an open question. Perhaps the most that one can hope for is that we could reflect more on Galton and his legacy. In particular, a better understanding is needed of the difference between data that ‘confirms’ a theory by providing a good model fit, and data that allows us to explain observed data patternsusing as much potentially falsifiable information as possible. Harvey Goldstein 2012 32
  • 34. George W. Bohrnstedt, An Overview of Measurement in the Social Sciences. http://www7.nationalacademies.org/dbasse/Measurement_in_Social_Sciences.pdf Burt R. 1991 Measuring age as a structural concept. Social Networks 13 Cartwright N. and Chang H. 2008 Measurement, in The Routledge Companion to Philosophy of Science, pp. 367-375. Cartwright N. and Bradburn N., A theory of measurement.http://www7.nationalacademies.org/dbasse/Common%20Metrics_Me asurement_for_Science_and_Policy.pdf Goldstein H. 2012. Francis Galton, measurement, psychometrics and social progress. Assessment in Education: Principles, Policy &PracticeVol. 19, No. 2 Marks G. The measurment of socioeconomic status and social class in the LSAY project. Technical Paper http://www.acer.edu.au/documents/LSAY_techrep14.pdf Reijneveld S A 1998 Age in epidemiological analysis, J Epidemiol Community Health 2003;57 Suppes P. 1998 Theory of Measurement. E. Craig (Ed.), Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy. pp. 243-249. Zeller and Carmines 1980. Measurement in the social sciences. The link between theory and practice. CUP 34

Editor's Notes

  1. Quote:Measurement implies three requirements: 1) We have to have a characterization of the quantity or category, that is we have to be able to identify its boundaries and know what belongs to it and what does not (characterization).; 2) we have to have a metrical system that appropriately represents the quantity or category (representation); and 3) we have to have rules for applying the metrical system to produce measurement results (procedures). How to represent Ballung concepts“An overall measure of quality was then constructed by computing a weighted average of the indicators using weights derived from the faculty survey. “