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Issue No. 11
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Issue No. 11
DOODLES?
PAPER AND TWINE
a | this page
b | pow wows and pretending dumb ‐ concluded
c | interview w/ john cardoso
d | interview ‐ continued
e | interview ‐ concluded | nalgene supports animal testing
f | doodles? notes?
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ABOUT THIS ISSUE:
It didn’t start off as the finished zine you are now
holding. The interview with Johnny was an idea I NOTES?
came up with at the last minute. Then I realized how
much sense it would make to do an interview with
him now with ‘Pow Wows’ being concluded in this THIEF! – 11.24.11
issue. As you will read he also just launched a site The
Canvas. And recently I got a roll of film developed My third released music project
that was long overdue, and found a great picture of Thief!
Johnny (which is the current cover). Available for free download via
derelict.bandcamp.com
paper and twine – issue 11
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3. e b
Pow Wows and Pretending Dumb
Is there anything you want to address about the site or make any
announcements? He decided to say nothing. They got closer and closer and she had a very
Keep checking the Canvas for new shit, especially if you live in Seattle, because straight face on, not looking at him much at all. They were about six feet
this is a Seattle‐based site and I'll be blabbing my mouth about shit in Seattle all away and she made eye contact with him, smirked a bit and winked lightly,
the time. Send me music. Send me art. Send me stories. Go to RAWSPINE.COM and looked away. To him, he had known that she had just said hello. They
where you can link to the Rawspine site, The Canvas, and my Twisting Cells had still shared something, although they both likely had no idea what it was.
project, where you can download my music. *Read Paper & Twine, and don't It wasn't of importance, or so they felt. It wasn't any big thing. They existed.
forget to take it sleazy. They fell out of existence. Then never existed at all.
‐ p & t “Did you fuckin' see that,” one of his friends said. They were all rather quiet
now, as they all noticed the beautiful girl walk by and all sort of gawked at
**(*that was a unsolicited plug) (**honestly) her for a moment. His friend went on, “I think she totally just winked at me.”
“Go get her, man,” he said to his friend, knowing that he wouldn't
Nalgene Supports Animal Testing bother.
“Yeah right, dude. A girl like that is probably too much work.”
The site where they first hosted the ORIGINAL statement on their
“Too much work, eh?”
stand on animal testing has disappeared, reappeared and changed “Yeah you know. Probably have to be there day and night for her.
this year. The current Official Statement is loosely written on how Making sure she's happy. Letting her know you're there for her, whenever
they don’t “… conduct any animal testing in the development or she needs it. I don't have the time to give it my all like that. I wish I did. That's
manufacturing of our products and we do not condone the inhumane the whole reason I'm not going after anyone. Gotta take care of myself first,
treatment of animals.”. But then another piece of the statement you know. If only though man. If only.”
contradicts that last one, “ Without animal research, we will never be “Maybe you can just meet up with her from time to time, fuck like
able to cure AIDS, multiple sclerosis or Alzheimer's.” . bunnies and move on.”
“Or maybe in your fucking dreams, man.” his friend replied.
Their whole statement to me is bass‐ackwards, having any part in “It's like...pow wows... and pretending dumb.” he said raising an
animal testing: attaching prods, or supplying the plastic cages in eyebrow.
which the animals are kept, itself is an inhumane act to the animals “What?” another one of his friends said.
who I’m sure did not volunteer for this research and are being held “Absolutely.” he replied back.
and mistreated against their own will. No where in the statement do “Sometimes you don't make any sense at all, man.” the third friend said
they say they have plans to stop their part in animal testing, but that laughing.
they want to “… minimize the use of animal research…”. Even with a They kept walking and he just thought, Tell me about it. A weirdo. A
minimized use there will still be a great amount of lives that will suffer sinner. I'm fucked.
at the cost of experimentation. I understand that there needs to be A weirdo. A sinner. I'm fucked.
Story by John Cardoso
‘subjects’ to conduct ‘research’ on but there has to be a better
Rawspine.com
alternative to use (there are people everyday who want to submit
themselves to science for cash, are these tests not fit for humans, but
animals?). If it is because the intelligence you believe a species
possess or the lack of, that gives you a right to put a value on their
life, is wrong. It’s the same as if you were to take members of society
who aren’t the intelligent “norm” and force them to participate in
painful testing, a life is a life regardless of species rank. We all need
to find alternative ways to live our lives. That doesn’t negatively
affect others.
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4. C d
Interview w/ John Cardoso There is a small header on the site that reads: “What is this CANVAS
John’s work has made its way into paper and twine several times with his shit”. What is this Canvas shit?
short stories [Dead Quiet Saturday’s/ Pow Wows and Pretending Dumb/ This Canvas shit is pretty much just a blog where I can talk about whatever I
Recycled Beauty], but recently John has launched a new site called The find interesting. From music, to film, politics, art. Whatever I happen to want
Canvas. The Canvas is a place for “Music, Art, Media and Shit”. Since I’ve to post at the time. And all the while, I try to do it in a voice that won't bore
known him he’s always had ideas for sites to better display not just his art the fuck out of you. I hate when you go to a “blog” and all they do is post a
but the creations that he finds around him, The Canvas has been around for link to a song or video or something, but never write ANYTHING. There's
over a month now and he is displaying some great finds so far. The layout of never any OPINIONS on some, that's what a blog is! Say shit!
the site is well done and straight to the point, newest shit on the left, past
archives can be found on the right, and 6 words at the top to guide you Under that same header it says the “...blog is operated by Rawspine”,
through your adventures on The Canvas. Mr. Cardoso has been in his home your short stories were hosted on a Rawspine site a while ago, is RS
state Montana and residing in Butte for the past few months, but he’s finally essentially the house and The Canvas is just one of the doors inside?
made his way back Sea side… Yeah, pretty much. I've used the term “rawspine” in my writing for years and
years, that's one of the reasons my old “RAWSPINE” site was a place where
So, Why the fuck were you in Butte for so long? Getting away from some you could find some of my short stories, poems and things like that. It's been
felony charges here in Seattle? my design company for the past couple of years too, and it was just this year
[Butte]That's where I grew up, where my family lives. I just felt like I needed when I decided to make it sort of a single go‐to place for whatever medium I
to get out of the city for a while and spend a few months with my family. It want to display: music, art, design, apparel or whatever. Maybe one day I'll
was nice spending time with my nieces and everything. On the other note, house a bong museum or some dope shit like that. Rawspine Waterpipe
all past felonies have been dropped due to a plead of insanity, with that said I Museum. Fuck yeah.
choose not to further elaborate on said topic and all further questions can be
sent to my lawyer. Is Rawspine getting ready to ‘house’ anything new, or future plans to do
so?
I remember you talking about The Canvas early this year/late last year, So far I mostly plan on releasing my own music through Rawspine Records,
was the time spent in Montana a crucial get‐away needed for you to and doing design in between and finding a few artists who'd like to put out
finally get the site running? releases. Definitely starting up Rawspine Publications and try and find some
Definitely. In those three months I had enough time to work on three new other writers who'd like to put some stuff out. Rawspine Apparel is coming
websites, write and record a bit of music, and sort of just think about and by January I hope. There's going to be a special line called “Rawdyes” which
prepare for what I wanted to do when I got back to Seattle. will all be hand dyed tie‐dye apparel with prints over them. I want to start
doing more video production too, but my camera just shit out on me, so that
Running a site is difficult enough, but you’re doing it as a one‐man might be held back a bit. And then there's that Waterpipe Museum.
operation, is there a constant stress you face daily with post or a weird
technical issue? You take music/art submissions too right? How can people get those to
It doesn't really stress me out so much. If there is a technical problem I'm you?
usually just temporarily annoyed until it get's fixed. So far it's pretty basic so There's a link on the site. It's pretty easy, just shoot a link to
not too much has gone wrong. When it comes to posts, I'm sort of a dork so thecanvas@rawspine.com and describe yourself a bit. And you know, link
I'm always scanning the internet and reading blogs ‐ so I just post whatever I me to a bandcamp/soundcloud or somewhere where I can stream your
feel necessary. It's mostly music, because I mostly care about music haha. music. Don't send mp3's in the email cause that's obnoxious as hell. No zip
…And it’s nice to be able to post what’s relevant/important to you, than files or anything, please and thank you. I love hearing new music and
deal with an influence you may not agree with too. spreading the word, and love all music from indie to hip hop to electronica to
I definitely just like being able to throw whatever I want out there. If it's folk and all in between. If I like it I'll definitely post it up on The Canvas. It
relevant it's relevant, if it's not, it is because it is to me. doesn't even need to be music. If you're an artist, send me your art. Send me
your videos. I'm down.
continued on D 
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