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SIEMENS                                             5 KW System

System description:
Gas supply             1.62Nm3/h biogas CH4-CO2 53/47 (8.14kW)
Electric power         DC              4kW
                       AC              3.3kW
Heat recovery          2.7kW
Efficiency (on biogas) Electrical      38%
                       Overall         69%
Technology             Stack           Siemens (tubular, pressurized,
                                       need a steam-reformer)
                       System          Siemens
References (field trials)      HERA (Torino)
State of art                   Product development
System suitable for demo       yes
Future market                  Power generation up to MW (high electrical
                               efficiency in combination with microturbines)

Allan Casanova                                         Dr. Joachim Hoffmann
VP, Business Development                               Technical program manager
Siemens Power Generation (USA)                         Stationary Fuel Cells
Stationary Fuel Cells                                  hoffmannjoachim@siemens.com
allan.casanova@siemens.com
TECHNICAL ADVICE
Technology
        Advantages:
        - Large experience, oldest system test program
        - Inherent strength and tolerance to rapid temperature change
        - High electrical efficiency on biogas
        - Steam-reforming before stack (in the case of biogas can work as a fuse in electrical circuits, and
protect the stack, the most expensive part of the SOFC system)
        - System develop for industrial purpose (up to MWs)
        - Maintenace from Europe
      Disadvantages:
      - Steam-reforming with recirculation through an ejector, little possibilities of changing the nominal
CO2 percentage.
      - Cost per kW high
Experience SOFC systems
       4 units delivered to the field (Powerco, Szencorp and EWE), 10 for EWE in 2007
Experience with biogas
       They can run a known composition through a test station
System suitable for demo      yes
         ITEM                    COST / TIME                 INCLUDED                  NOT INCLUDED

DELIVERY COST EVALUATION

    System                          360.000$                      yes

    Freight rate                                                                              no

    Insurances                                                                                no
Delivery Time                  6 months

    Other                           12.914$                                      Gas compressor

OPERATION COSTS EVALUATION

     On-site training,
                                                                                 Travel and living
installation and start up           9.100$            Training up to 5 people
                                                                                expenses 1 person
support (5 days)

                            32.700$/year or 2.725$/
    Monitoring                                                                         no
                                    month

    Operation costs

    Maintenance

                            4.000hr of operation or   Problem diagnostic
    Warranty
                            1 year                    assistance

    After-sales service
    (logistics)

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EDEN - Siemens Comparison Chart

  • 1. SIEMENS 5 KW System System description: Gas supply 1.62Nm3/h biogas CH4-CO2 53/47 (8.14kW) Electric power DC 4kW AC 3.3kW Heat recovery 2.7kW Efficiency (on biogas) Electrical 38% Overall 69% Technology Stack Siemens (tubular, pressurized, need a steam-reformer) System Siemens References (field trials) HERA (Torino) State of art Product development System suitable for demo yes Future market Power generation up to MW (high electrical efficiency in combination with microturbines) Allan Casanova Dr. Joachim Hoffmann VP, Business Development Technical program manager Siemens Power Generation (USA) Stationary Fuel Cells Stationary Fuel Cells hoffmannjoachim@siemens.com allan.casanova@siemens.com TECHNICAL ADVICE Technology Advantages: - Large experience, oldest system test program - Inherent strength and tolerance to rapid temperature change - High electrical efficiency on biogas - Steam-reforming before stack (in the case of biogas can work as a fuse in electrical circuits, and protect the stack, the most expensive part of the SOFC system) - System develop for industrial purpose (up to MWs) - Maintenace from Europe Disadvantages: - Steam-reforming with recirculation through an ejector, little possibilities of changing the nominal CO2 percentage. - Cost per kW high Experience SOFC systems 4 units delivered to the field (Powerco, Szencorp and EWE), 10 for EWE in 2007 Experience with biogas They can run a known composition through a test station System suitable for demo yes ITEM COST / TIME INCLUDED NOT INCLUDED DELIVERY COST EVALUATION System 360.000$ yes Freight rate no Insurances no
  • 2. Delivery Time 6 months Other 12.914$ Gas compressor OPERATION COSTS EVALUATION On-site training, Travel and living installation and start up 9.100$ Training up to 5 people expenses 1 person support (5 days) 32.700$/year or 2.725$/ Monitoring no month Operation costs Maintenance 4.000hr of operation or Problem diagnostic Warranty 1 year assistance After-sales service (logistics)