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Should We Be
  Afraid of
  The Fire?
Some Christians believe they can
        terrify others
into being “good” or seeing things
            THEIR way.
If someone tells you you’re going to
                hell
show this presentation/video.
~~~~~~~
The Bible uses fire as the
  symbolic description
of God‟s immediate presence:
“Because the LORD your God
is like a flaming fire.” (Daniel
           4:24 – GN)
“For our God
is a consuming fire.” (Hebrews
         12:29 – GN)
“God, the light of Israel,
will become a fire.
Israel‟s holy God will become a
              flame,
which in a single day will burn
        up everything,
even the thorns and thistles”
    (Isaiah 10:17 – GN)
The immediate presence of God
     is tortuous to some –
but not because He is a literal
   fire that burns up flesh.
God does not exude any hostility
towards his rebellious children.
This is describing psychological
           discomfort
that involves intense guilt and
            shame
as sinful and selfish individuals
enter into the presence of a God
who is selfless love personified.
There are several examples in
          scripture
of individuals who have
experienced God‟s presence.
This was the experience of
          Isaiah:
“In the year that King Uzziah
     died, I saw the Lord.
He was sitting on his throne,
high and exalted,
and his robe filled the whole
          Temple.
Around him flaming creatures
      were standing,
each of which had six wings.
Each creature covered its face
       with two wings,
and its body with two,
and used the other two for flying.
They were calling out to each
           other:
„Holy, holy, holy!
The LORD Almighty is holy!
His glory fills the world.‟
The sound of their voices
made the foundation of the
     Temple shake,
and the Temple itself became
      filled with smoke.
I said, „There is no hope for me!
I am doomed because every
          word
that passes my lips is sinful,
and I live among a people
whose every word is sinful.
And yet, with my own eyes
I have seen the King, the LORD
          Almighty.‟
Then one of the creatures flew
        down to me,
carrying a burning coal
that he had taken from the altar
with a pair of tongs.” (Isaiah 6:4-
             6 – GN)
Notice that Isaiah did not
         exclaim,
“God, you are so bright and hot
   that I am burning up!”
No - Isaiah saw the beautiful
            glory
and goodness of God
and by contrast
saw with an intense clarity his
       own sinfulness.
His lips were touched with a
        burning coal,
but notice again the symbolism
            involved
as the coal was not harmful to
          his flesh.
The intense shame and guilt
   experience by Isaiah
is what God described to Moses
       with these words:
“But you may not look directly at
           My face,
for no one may see Me and live.”
      (Exodus 33:20 – NLT)
God was not saying,
“If you look at My face, I‟ll kill
             you!”
Rather, God is saying,
“In your state of rebellious
        separation
from My kingdom of other-
      centered love,
the full face-to-face exposure
to My goodness and love is
    actually harmful.”
The destructive element of
     beholding God
face-to-face does not come from
              God,
but rather from within the sinner.
We need to use many examples
   to drive this point home.
Moses saw the glory of God at
     the burning bush.
But were the leaves of the bush
          consumed?
No, God‟s fiery presence
apparently does not burn leaves.
A little later on God came as a
     fire onto Mount Sinai:
“The glory of the Lord rested on
         Mount Sinai…
And the glory of the Lord
appeared to the Israelites
like devouring fire on the top of
the mountain.” (Exodus 24:16-17
              – GN)
Were the trees on the top of the
 mount consumed by the fire?
Did God‟s presence spark a
    massive forest fire?
There is no record of this.
God‟s glory also filled the tent in
        the wilderness,
but is there ever a record of the
             sheets
spontaneously bursting into
         flames?
No, this is an altogether different
            kind of fire.
Moses reflected this glory
when he came from the LORD‟s
          presence:
“Whenever Moses went into the
 Tent of the LORD‟s presence
to speak to the LORD, he would
       take the veil off.
When he came out,
he would tell the people of Israel
          everything
that he had been commanded to
              say,
and they would see that his face
         was shining.
Then he would put the veil back
             on
until the next time he went to
speak with the LORD.” (Exodus
         34:34-35 – GN)
These were not 3rd degree burns
     in the face of Moses.
The reflected glory of God in his
  face caused distress in the
             people
– very similar to the experience
      of Isaiah, no doubt.
Out of consideration for the
          people,
Moses put a veil over his face.
And this story of two rebellious
             sons
also reinforces this view:
“Aaron's sons Nadab and
Abihu…disobeyed the LORD
by burning before Him the wrong
         kind of fire…
So fire blazed forth from the
      LORD‟s presence
and burned them up, and they
 died there before the LORD.
Then Moses said to Aaron,
„This is what the LORD meant
         when He said,
'I will display My holiness
through those who come near
            Me.
I will display My glory before all
            the people.‟
And Aaron was silent.
Then Moses called for…Aaron‟s
         cousins…
He said to them,
„Come forward and carry away
  the bodies of your relatives
from in front of the sanctuary to
   a place outside the camp.‟”
If you were Aaron‟s cousins and
    were given the command
to carry them outside the camp,
what would you predict would be
      left of their bodies?
What do you think would be left
       of their clothes?
“So they came forward and
  picked them up by their
         garments
and carried them out of the
          camp,
just as Moses had commanded.”
     (Leviticus 10:1-5 – NLT)
The fire that emanates from the
     very presence of God
is apparently not harmful to
      clothes or flesh,
but yet these 2 rebellious men
could not stand in the presence
            of God.
Job also saw God in all his glory,
and like Isaiah he was acutely
   aware of his own guilt:
“In the past I knew only what
     others had told me,
but now I have seen you with my
           own eyes.
So I am ashamed of all I have
            said
and repent in dust and ashes.”
      (Job 42:5-6 – GN)
Is there a more righteous saint in
      the Bible than Daniel?
But yet, his experience in the
presence of God had this effect:
“I looked up and saw someone
who was wearing linen clothes
   and a belt of fine gold.
His body shone like a jewel.
His face was as bright as a flash
          of lightning,
and his eyes blazed like fire.
His arms and legs shone like
      polished bronze,
and his voice sounded like the
    roar of a great crowd.
I was the only one who saw the
            vision.
Those who were with me did not
        see anything,
but they were terrified and ran
           and hid.
I was left there alone, watching
      this amazing vision.
I had no strength left, and my
    face was so changed
that no one could have
    recognized me.
When I heard his voice,
I fell to the ground unconscious
and lay there face downward.
Then a hand took hold of me
and raised me to my hands and
            knees;
I was still trembling.
The angel said to me,
„Daniel, God loves you.
Stand up and listen…” (Daniel
       10:5-10 – GN)
The friends that Daniel was with
          fled in panic,
while Daniel is described as
 acutely aware of his own
        sinfulness:
“…my comeliness was turned in
     me into corruption,
and I retained no strength.”
   (Daniel 10:8 – ASV).
I love the fact that the angel
immediately reassures Daniel
with these comforting words:
      “God loves you.”
John, who walked with Jesus for
         over 3 years,
later saw Him in all His glory.
He had a similar response as
           Daniel:
“When I saw him, I fell down at
  his feet like a dead man.
He placed his right hand on me
          and said,
„Don‟t be afraid!‟” (Revelation
          1:17 – GN)
Once again, isn‟t it wonderful
        that God is
so quick to say, “I love you” and
       “Don‟t be afraid!”
But once again,
no one turns to God and says
“It‟s too hot in here. My flesh is
        starting to burn.”
Rather, these individuals are
        experiencing
psychological discomfort, guilt
        and shame.
Before His rebellion,
Lucifer flourished
in the presence of God‟s glory:
“I ordained and anointed you
as the mighty angelic guardian.
You had access to the holy
     mountain of God
and walked among the stones of
   fire.” (Ezekiel 28:14 – NLT)
“The stones of fire”
describes the very presence of
             God
where the sinless Lucifer dwelt
 unharmed with his Creator.
Notice very carefully the
 description of Satan‟s
destruction just a few verses
            later:
“You defiled your sanctuaries
    with your many sins
and your dishonest trade.
So I brought fire from within you,
and it consumed you.
I let it burn you to ashes on the
               ground
in the sight of all who were
watching” (Ezekiel 28:18, NLT).
The destructive element in God‟s
           presence
does not emanate from God,
but rather from within the sinner.
The destructive “fire” that will
   end of the life of Satan
comes from within his own
selfish and rebellious heart.
This passage in Isaiah
is one of the most compelling on
           this subject:
“But the LORD says,
„Now I will do something and be
        greatly praised.
Your deeds are straw that will be
          set on fire
by your very own breath.
You will be burned to ashes like
         thorns in a fire.
Everyone, both far and near,
come look at what I have done.
See my mighty power!‟
The sinners in Zion are terrified;
trembling grips the godless:
„Who of us can dwell with the
      consuming fire?
Who of us can dwell with
 everlasting burning?‟
He who walks righteously
and speaks what is right…”
(Isaiah 33:11-15 – CEV, NIV)
This passage is describing the
            fear
and dread that the wicked
       experience
in the presence of God
who appears to them as “the
     consuming fire”
and the “everlasting burning”.
They ask,
“Who of us can dwell with the
   everlasting burning?”
But notice that the reply comes
              that
“He who walks righteously and
    speaks what is right”
can dwell in the fiery presence of
               God!
This passage in Psalms also
         describes
the two classes of people
that will one day stand in God‟s
            presence:
“As wax melts in front of the fire,
so do the wicked perish in his
          presence.
But the righteous are glad and
   rejoice in his presence;
they are happy and shout for
  joy.” (Psalms 68:2 – GN)
For some, God‟s presence is
        tortuous;
for others it is a place of great
      joy and happiness.
We see this same relationship
         once again
in the book of Malachi,
where the wicked perish in His
          presence,
while to others that same
        presence
brings great happiness,
joy and healing:
“The LORD Almighty says,
„The day is coming when all
   proud and evil people
will burn like straw.
On that day they will burn up,
and there will be nothing left of
             them.
But for you who obey me,
my saving power will rise on you
like the sun
and bring healing
like the sun‟s rays.
You will be as free and happy
as calves let out of a stall.”
   (Malachi 4:1-2 – GN)
When the fire of God is
understood in this way,
both heaven and hell are seen to
      be the same place.
That is,
both heaven and hell are a
         Person.
For some,
it is heaven to dwell in the
presence of Love Personified;
for others, it is hell.
God‟s love is very hot indeed:
“Put me like a seal over your
           heart,
like a seal on your arm.
For love is as strong as death…
Its flashes are flashes of fire,
the very flame of the Lord.
Many waters cannot quench
          love,
nor will rivers overflow it. (Song
        of Solomon 8:6-7)
John describes the individuals
who will stand in the presence of
          God this way:
“Yes, my children, remain in
      union with him,
so that when he appears
we may be full of courage
and need not hide in shame
from him on the Day he comes…
We know that when Christ
       appears,
we shall be like him,
because we shall see him as he
really is” (1 John 2:28, 3:2 – GN)
When God returns,
those who already live in union
  with him will have courage
for they know that the glorious
             One
who stands before them
is just like Jesus in character:
kind,
gentle,
humble,
and supremely forgiving.
These individuals are settled
        into the truth
about the kind of Person God
             is.
by daily dwelling in the
       presence
of the God of love,
it is a law that we become
like the God we love, trust and
            admire:
“We shall be like him,
because we shall see him as
       he really is!”
The central characteristic of
       God‟s friends
in the last generation
is that they will see God as he
            really is.
That is,
they are fully settled in the
      picture of God
that Jesus came to bring
and by beholding the true
          God,
it is an unavoidable natural
        consequence
that we are changed into His
           image:
“All of us, then, reflect the
     glory of the Lord
with uncovered faces;
and that same glory, …
transforms us into his
likeness …” (2 Corinthians
         3:18 – GN)
I grew up in a church
that preached annihilationism.
I recall some pastors going to
          great lengths
to explain that the soul is NOT
           immortal
and to quickly add the “good
           news”
that “the fire won‟t last
        forever”.
“The wicked will only burn for
  as long as they deserve.”
But if the “eternal fire” is
         ultimately
the very presence of God,
then the fire really is eternal
– an eternal fire of intense
   love and goodness
that will never be
  extinguished!
By contrast though,
the suffering of the wicked in
       God‟s presence
is short and does not last
          forever,
but yet the fire of God‟s love
         will burn on.
And here is the best part!
God‟s friends will dwell in His
          presence
for all of eternity.
Just as Lucifer was described
         as walking
among the stones of fire,
John described heaven as
“…what looked like a sea of
          glass
mixed with fire” (Revelation
          22:4).
Once again, this refers to the
 very presence of our God
and the righteous will dwell in
  the unveiled glory of God
– face to face!
I believe that the reason
    Jesus would say,
“I came to set the earth on fire
and how I wish it were already
          kindled”
is that He desires more than
          anything
to experience with each one
           of us
a deeply personal face-to-face
         relationship.
Jesus came in order to
       restore
and to heal us that we may
           enter
into His presence and
      experience
this incredible intimacy and
    friendship with God:
“But now, by means of the
physical death of his Son,
God has made you his
      friends,
in order to bring you, holy,
    pure, and faultless,
into his presence.”
(Colossians 1:22 – GN)
What God has desired more
      than anything
from the moment Adam and
           Eve
fled from His presence,
is to wrap His arms around
  His children once again.
How significant, then,
that the end is described with
         these words!
“They will see his face,
and his name (character) will
be written on their foreheads
           (minds).
There shall be no more night,

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