Doug describes how he is able to split his mind and take on different personas in different chat windows online, engaging in different conversations and activities simultaneously. Turkle notes that children today see computers as able to think and have personality, where adults may still hesitate at the idea of computers having consciousness. On the internet, people can experiment with constructing and reconstructing their identities in ways that characterize postmodern life. Turkle sees virtual spaces as having the potential to be a "raft" or "ladder" that allows one to grow and become more self-aware, though not a complete substitute for reality.