2. I feel impressed and burdened or saddened by
this continual argument of being skilled to detect
the non-elect or hell bound people in the
scripture. We have to believe that certain
people in the bible have to go to this eternal
torment just to be counted as a Primitive Baptist.
It is a great pressure among our ministers when
one changes from believing that Judas wa~ a
child of God, you can just laugh all the way to
the fellowship bank. Other wise if you maintain
that the elect family of God is of a very corrupt
nature and can commit any sin that the
righteous wrath of our God is greatly opposed
to, you then are considered a heretic. In
Mathew 18:32-35, would it be right for us to say
that God would freely, graciously forgive this ten
thousand talent debt, and then change and send
this man to eternal hell because he would not
forgive others? Who would you say the
tormentors were? If Judas was a thief, not one
that acted like a thief, then whom did God have
in mind when it was written, "Thou shalt not
steal?" Are our eyes so sharp that we can see
one of the non-elect even better than we can
see the elect? Do not we judge and compare
these people with our own sinful nature in
comparison with what they did? Would not our
eyes be full of darkness?
The first scripture mentioned was Mathew 10: 1,
Jesus calls his 12 diSCiples unto him and gives
1
3. them power against or over unclean spirits to
cast them out and to heal alt manner of sickness
and all manner of disease, Judas is named
among these men. When this command was
given all twelve were included. The 11th chapter
begins by stating that all twelve were still there.
When each had received power to cast out evil
spirits is this not contradictory to the words of
Christ in Luke 11 :15-20? Christ is accused of ,.
casting out devils by the spirit of the devil or
Satan. His answer is, if Satan also be divided
against himself, how shall his kingdom stand?
Verse 20 is very plain "But if I with the finger of
God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of i
God is come upon you."
Mathew 10:5-6: These twelve Jesus sent forth
and commanded them saying "Go not in the way
of the Gentiles, and into any city of the
Samaritans enter ye not. But go rather to the
lost sheep of the house of Israel." Would our
Jesus Christ send a devil to the lost sheep of the
house of Israel? Verse 16: Behold I send you
forth as sheep in the midst of wolves, be ye
therefore wise as serpents and harmless as
doves." This seems to teach that the twelve
were by nature as sheep timid and meek and
weak and they were to go among wolves who
were much more powerful. Did Christ send his
disciples to preach to the non-elect who are
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4. supposed to be so much more sinful than 1he
elect? I· beJieve the wolves are the elect, the lost
sheep who are following their Adam natures and
are lost in practicing law, feeling that other
people are so much greater sinners than
themselves. Shall we say, like the Pharisees
(Verse 10:19) "Take no thought how or what you
shall speak, for it shan be given you in that same
hour what you shall speak." Verse 20: "For it is
not ye that speak but the Spirit of your Father
which speakest." Did the Spirit of Judas' father
speak in him? Was God his Father? IIlf you
speak what the Father says you will be hated
but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
One of the elect does not have to endure to the
end of his life to go to heaven. That end is fixed
in God's sight by the shed blood of our Lord
Jesus Christ, but this child can lose his part in
the Kingdom of God if he does not endure the
persecutions of powerful men. This is what
Judas lost as well as we can when we fear what
men can do to us rather than fearing our God.
Verse 38: "And he that taketh not his cross and
followeth after me is not worthy of me," Verse
39: "He that findeth his life shall lose it." If you
follow the commandments of men to have a
better life you will lose it. This did Judas, He
got powerful men on his side and lost his
fellowship with God.
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5. This damning piece of evidence in John 6:70-71
about Judas is damning, not just about Judas
but to us all that are prone to lie. Jesus says he
is a devil and not one possessed ofadevil.
Jesus says it plainly "and one ofyou is a devil"
but he did not say the devil. What Jesus really
said was, and one of you is a liar: In a Greek
Concordance, everywhere the word ·diabotos is
found, it is always used meaning devil or liar.
But, in all places where it is as speaking of a
person it is rendered "the devil", That is except
4 places it is rendered a devil or as a synonym
of it to describe a liar such as slanderer or false
accuser. These words are found in John 6:70;
1Timothy 3:11 as slanderer, 2Timothy 3:3 is a
warning against men that are lovers of
themselves that can be false accusers (devils),
lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God, Is
not the fellowship power in the Primitive Baptist
Church controlled by such men? Titus 2:3 is
written to aged women not to be false accusers
as they are to teach the young women to be
sober, to love their husbands, to love their
children, to be discreet, chaste keepers at home,
obedient to their husbands that the word of God
be not blasphemed, See what a false accuser
or devil can do among the brethren of the
church. These four scriptures are the
admonitions to the children of God not spoken to
the non-elect. Now if this fault is found in our
churches, which actually is quite common, then
4
6. do we publicly exclude them as non-elect
without any repentance? In John 6:70 Jesus is
not calling Judas the devil but a devil or -liar.
John 8:30: In this part of the article the question
is not about Judas, but is about whether or not
one of the elect or child of God have the devil for
a father. In John 8:24 Jesus speaks: "I said
therefore unto you that ye shall die in your sins,
for if you believe not that I am he ye shall die in
your sins. Now a child of God or the. elect does
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not have to believe on Jesus to go to heaven,
but he can die unforgiven if he does not believe
on Jesus in this world. Verse 30: "as he spake
these words many believed on him. Then said
Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If
you continue in my word, then are you my
disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you free." Here are
children of God in their lamb or babe state being
encouraged to become disciples or a pupil or a
learner, or followers. Now here is where new
church members begin to fall away or cease to
grow in grace and knowledge of the truth. The
devil begins to tell them that this is too hard.
Brethren around them in their lives prove it is too
self-sacrificing to follow the Lord. They look at
the Kingdom of Heaven and see the strait gate
and the narrow way and decide the broad way is
easier. This all comes from the Devil who
teaches them there is a more fun or easier way.
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