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Roundtable	
  Event:	
  “How	
  to	
  Manage	
  Business	
  risk	
  through	
  Reputation”	
  
	
  
	
  

An	
  off-­‐the-­‐record	
  executive	
  discussion,	
  which	
  took	
  place	
  in	
  central	
  London	
  on	
  
February	
  26	
  2014	
  
Meeting	
  notes	
  and	
  concluding	
  bullets	
  

	
  
Below	
  is	
  a	
  summary	
  of	
  the	
  views	
  of	
  17	
  executives	
  from	
  the	
  retail,	
  banking,	
  oil	
  &	
  gas,	
  
consulting,	
  hospitality,	
  and	
  legal	
  sectors	
  
	
  
• Sharing	
  the	
  ‘outside	
  in’	
  perspective	
  of	
  stakeholders	
  is	
  key,	
  particularly	
  at	
  
board	
  level,	
  to	
  provide	
  a	
  counter-­‐balance	
  to	
  the	
  corporate	
  received	
  wisdom	
  
• Leadership	
  is	
  about	
  what	
  you	
  do	
  when	
  there	
  is	
  a	
  decision	
  to	
  make	
  beyond	
  
the	
  book	
  of	
  rules	
  
• In	
  the	
  hotel	
  sector,	
  intangible	
  asset	
  value	
  is	
  huge,	
  given	
  the	
  wide	
  degree	
  of	
  
franchising	
  	
  
• Some	
  view	
  reputation	
  is	
  a	
  ‘second	
  order’	
  risk,	
  as	
  it	
  is	
  often	
  the	
  result	
  of	
  the	
  
manifestation	
  of	
  another	
  risk	
  
• However,	
  there	
  are	
  other	
  clear	
  examples	
  (McDonald’s	
  crisis	
  over	
  child	
  
marketing)	
  which	
  were	
  clearly	
  driven	
  by	
  reputation	
  only	
  
• Protecting	
  reputation	
  is	
  about	
  identifying	
  challenges	
  before	
  they	
  become	
  a	
  
catastrophes	
  and	
  relying	
  on	
  your	
  business	
  values	
  to	
  guide	
  you	
  through	
  the	
  
crisis	
  
• Much	
  of	
  the	
  fluctuation	
  of	
  risk	
  in	
  business	
  can	
  be	
  managed	
  if	
  executives	
  have	
  
financial	
  and	
  stakeholder	
  sentiment	
  data	
  in	
  advance	
  
• Individual	
  stakeholder	
  sentiment	
  is	
  very	
  different	
  from	
  overall	
  reputation,	
  
which	
  is	
  the	
  aggregate	
  of	
  all	
  relevant	
  parties’	
  opinions	
  of	
  an	
  organisation.	
  
Likewise	
  resilience	
  is	
  not	
  the	
  same	
  as	
  reputation	
  and	
  can	
  only	
  be	
  built	
  on	
  
sustained,	
  high	
  regard	
  
• Senior	
  managers	
  in	
  many	
  businesses	
  are	
  delusional	
  about	
  how	
  they	
  view	
  
reputational	
  risk.	
  Many	
  believe	
  it	
  still	
  to	
  be	
  a	
  PR	
  issue	
  not	
  an	
  operational	
  
issue	
  
• Managing	
  culture	
  change	
  to	
  put	
  financial	
  metrics/numbers	
  on	
  risks	
  to	
  
reputation	
  is	
  vital	
  to	
  solving	
  that	
  problem	
  of	
  delusion.	
  	
  
• Companies	
  who	
  try	
  too	
  hard	
  to	
  be	
  loved	
  have	
  further	
  to	
  fall,	
  particularly	
  if	
  
they	
  believe	
  their	
  own	
  hype	
  but	
  fail	
  to	
  deliver	
  
• Investors	
  in	
  large	
  oil	
  and	
  gas	
  companies	
  ARE	
  now	
  listening	
  to	
  external	
  
stakeholders,	
  such	
  as	
  NGOs,	
  as	
  much	
  as	
  other	
  sources	
  when	
  it	
  comes	
  to	
  
asking	
  questions	
  about	
  risk	
  management	
  in	
  IR	
  meetings.	
  
• With	
  regard	
  to	
  the	
  integration	
  of	
  reputational	
  risk	
  two	
  way	
  communications	
  
is	
  vital	
  to	
  moving	
  from	
  reactive	
  to	
  proactive	
  risk	
  management.	
  Risk	
  
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management	
  must	
  be	
  positioned	
  as	
  an	
  ‘enabler’	
  rather	
  than	
  a	
  ‘blocker’	
  in	
  
decision	
  making	
  
Business	
  units	
  must	
  own	
  risk	
  and	
  consult	
  with	
  communications/reputation	
  
risk	
  experts	
  at	
  an	
  early	
  stage	
  in	
  the	
  commercial	
  planning	
  cycle	
  	
  
Cross	
  discipline	
  collaboration	
  on	
  taking	
  stakeholder	
  perspectives	
  into	
  account	
  
(risk	
  management,	
  reputation,	
  R&D,	
  design)	
  is	
  a	
  major	
  factor	
  in	
  protecting	
  
value	
  and	
  improve	
  risk	
  management	
  
One	
  excellent	
  example	
  of	
  awareness	
  of	
  risk	
  is	
  that	
  a	
  firm	
  X	
  (a	
  major	
  gas	
  
company)	
  had	
  sold	
  its	
  logistics	
  network	
  but	
  maintained	
  branding	
  on	
  the	
  
lorries.	
  Risk	
  management	
  did	
  not	
  see	
  this	
  as	
  a	
  risk.	
  Stakeholders	
  did	
  -­‐	
  as	
  liquid	
  
natural	
  gas	
  tankers	
  can	
  explode	
  in	
  a	
  community.	
  If	
  the	
  gas	
  firm’s	
  logo	
  is	
  on	
  
that	
  vehicle,	
  it	
  represents	
  clearly	
  both	
  a	
  public	
  relations	
  and	
  a	
  management	
  
issue	
  for	
  the	
  company	
  concerned	
  
The	
  Bank	
  Account	
  of	
  Goodwill	
  analogy	
  used	
  in	
  CSR	
  works	
  well	
  in	
  reputational	
  
risk.	
  Sometimes	
  to	
  advance	
  strategy,	
  you	
  will	
  need	
  to	
  make	
  withdrawals	
  and	
  
lower	
  reputational	
  resilience;	
  other	
  times	
  you	
  will	
  need	
  to	
  invest.	
  The	
  key	
  is	
  
understanding	
  the	
  firm’s	
  overall	
  reputational	
  resilience.	
  	
  
The	
  Rana	
  Plaza	
  disaster	
  demonstrated	
  that	
  companies	
  which	
  were	
  engaged	
  
in	
  actively	
  managing	
  risk	
  were	
  able	
  to	
  respond	
  better	
  to	
  the	
  disaster	
  and	
  
have	
  been	
  clearly	
  regarded	
  more	
  favourably	
  since	
  the	
  incident	
  
Reputational	
  risk	
  can	
  be	
  managed	
  more	
  effectively	
  when	
  clearly	
  linked	
  by	
  
management	
  to	
  business	
  continuity,	
  with	
  costs	
  associated	
  with	
  reputational	
  
loss	
  and	
  gain	
  
Balance	
  is	
  key	
  in	
  managing	
  risk:	
  When	
  you	
  make	
  risk	
  management	
  everyone’s	
  
job	
  you	
  can	
  easily	
  blur	
  the	
  lines	
  between	
  good	
  decision	
  making	
  and	
  efficient	
  
business	
  practices.	
  i.e.	
  if	
  everyone	
  queries	
  all	
  decisions	
  for	
  risk	
  reasons	
  you	
  
may	
  have	
  much	
  slower	
  decision	
  making	
  
Managing	
  reputational	
  risk	
  is	
  both	
  an	
  art	
  and	
  a	
  science:	
  Whilst	
  storytelling	
  is	
  
key	
  to	
  making	
  lessons	
  stick,	
  KPI’s	
  showing	
  the	
  disciplinary	
  risks	
  to	
  individuals	
  
are	
  also	
  key	
  
A	
  risk-­‐attuned,	
  aware	
  and	
  outside	
  engaged	
  corporate	
  culture	
  is	
  vital	
  to	
  help	
  
spot	
  “Black	
  Swan”	
  events	
  and	
  warn	
  of	
  important	
  reputational	
  risks	
  	
  
The	
  best	
  “meta	
  risk”	
  indicators	
  that	
  a	
  firm	
  holds	
  is	
  its	
  level	
  of	
  reputational	
  
resilience.	
  When	
  starting	
  out,	
  a	
  series	
  of	
  small	
  steps	
  to	
  build	
  the	
  business	
  
case	
  for	
  better	
  collaboration	
  between	
  risk	
  and	
  reputation	
  management	
  is	
  
optimal,	
  followed	
  by	
  internal	
  communication	
  of	
  the	
  results	
  
There’s	
  a	
  clear	
  separation	
  problem	
  in	
  many	
  companies	
  between	
  data	
  
collection,	
  where	
  it	
  exists,	
  people	
  working	
  on	
  the	
  ground	
  and	
  the	
  orders	
  that	
  
come	
  from	
  on	
  high	
  
Explaining	
  how	
  people	
  fit	
  into	
  the	
  bigger	
  risk	
  and	
  reputation	
  picture	
  is	
  a	
  
major	
  challenge,	
  but	
  it	
  must	
  be	
  a	
  picture	
  they	
  can	
  recognise	
  on	
  a	
  day	
  to	
  day	
  
basis.	
  Reputational	
  risk	
  awareness	
  must	
  somehow	
  be	
  concrete	
  for	
  them	
  
If	
  management	
  can	
  align	
  reputational	
  P&L	
  with	
  management	
  KPIs,	
  and	
  base	
  
those	
  KPIs	
  on	
  a	
  reputational	
  resilience	
  index	
  that	
  is	
  one	
  potential,	
  proven	
  
solution	
  
•

•

•

80%	
  of	
  the	
  challenge	
  is	
  internal	
  education,	
  alongside	
  company	
  behaviour,	
  
and	
  working	
  out	
  how	
  to	
  make	
  reputational	
  risk	
  count	
  for	
  individual	
  
employees,	
  day	
  to	
  day	
  
One	
  technique	
  used	
  successfully	
  is	
  a	
  simple	
  three	
  bullet	
  point	
  summary	
  
message	
  to	
  all	
  employees	
  after	
  an	
  incident,	
  so	
  they	
  can	
  remember	
  the	
  
company	
  line	
  and	
  response	
  easily	
  	
  
But	
  the	
  best	
  solution	
  is	
  to	
  be	
  able	
  to	
  demonstrate	
  to	
  internal	
  audiences,	
  
especially	
  top	
  management,	
  the	
  financial	
  impact	
  of	
  reputational	
  on	
  value.	
  
Maintaining	
  a	
  good	
  reputation	
  will	
  then	
  become	
  part	
  of	
  decision	
  making	
  

	
  
The	
  event	
  was	
  organised	
  and	
  moderated	
  by	
  Tobias	
  Webb	
  of	
  Stakeholder	
  Intelligence	
  
and	
  Ethical	
  Corporation.	
  For	
  more	
  information	
  or	
  to	
  inquire	
  about	
  further	
  events	
  see	
  
tobiaswebb.blogspot.co.uk	
  or	
  email/call	
  tobias.webb@stakeholderintel.com	
  +44	
  (0)	
  
7867416646	
  
	
  
RiiЯ	
  (Risk2Reputation)	
  sponsored	
  the	
  event.	
  RiiЯ	
  is	
  a	
  leading,	
  research	
  consultancy,	
  
which	
  helps	
  change	
  excellent	
  firms	
  into	
  resilient	
  firms,	
  thereby	
  protecting	
  and	
  
enhancing	
  corporate	
  value.	
  RiiЯ	
  do	
  this	
  by	
  analysing	
  the	
  financial	
  impact	
  of	
  
reputational	
  fluctuation	
  on	
  value,	
  thereby	
  improving	
  management	
  decision-­‐making.	
  
RiiЯ	
  also	
  help	
  optimise	
  resources	
  within	
  the	
  firm	
  -­‐	
  from	
  communications,	
  risk	
  
management	
  and	
  sustainability	
  executives	
  -­‐	
  so	
  reputation	
  is	
  managed	
  proactively	
  
within	
  the	
  ecosystem	
  of	
  stakeholders.	
  For	
  further	
  information,	
  please	
  contact	
  Tom	
  
Vesey	
  at	
  tom.vesey@risk2reputation.com	
  ,	
  or	
  on	
  +33	
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  • 1.         Roundtable  Event:  “How  to  Manage  Business  risk  through  Reputation”       An  off-­‐the-­‐record  executive  discussion,  which  took  place  in  central  London  on   February  26  2014   Meeting  notes  and  concluding  bullets     Below  is  a  summary  of  the  views  of  17  executives  from  the  retail,  banking,  oil  &  gas,   consulting,  hospitality,  and  legal  sectors     • Sharing  the  ‘outside  in’  perspective  of  stakeholders  is  key,  particularly  at   board  level,  to  provide  a  counter-­‐balance  to  the  corporate  received  wisdom   • Leadership  is  about  what  you  do  when  there  is  a  decision  to  make  beyond   the  book  of  rules   • In  the  hotel  sector,  intangible  asset  value  is  huge,  given  the  wide  degree  of   franchising     • Some  view  reputation  is  a  ‘second  order’  risk,  as  it  is  often  the  result  of  the   manifestation  of  another  risk   • However,  there  are  other  clear  examples  (McDonald’s  crisis  over  child   marketing)  which  were  clearly  driven  by  reputation  only   • Protecting  reputation  is  about  identifying  challenges  before  they  become  a   catastrophes  and  relying  on  your  business  values  to  guide  you  through  the   crisis   • Much  of  the  fluctuation  of  risk  in  business  can  be  managed  if  executives  have   financial  and  stakeholder  sentiment  data  in  advance   • Individual  stakeholder  sentiment  is  very  different  from  overall  reputation,   which  is  the  aggregate  of  all  relevant  parties’  opinions  of  an  organisation.   Likewise  resilience  is  not  the  same  as  reputation  and  can  only  be  built  on   sustained,  high  regard   • Senior  managers  in  many  businesses  are  delusional  about  how  they  view   reputational  risk.  Many  believe  it  still  to  be  a  PR  issue  not  an  operational   issue   • Managing  culture  change  to  put  financial  metrics/numbers  on  risks  to   reputation  is  vital  to  solving  that  problem  of  delusion.     • Companies  who  try  too  hard  to  be  loved  have  further  to  fall,  particularly  if   they  believe  their  own  hype  but  fail  to  deliver   • Investors  in  large  oil  and  gas  companies  ARE  now  listening  to  external   stakeholders,  such  as  NGOs,  as  much  as  other  sources  when  it  comes  to   asking  questions  about  risk  management  in  IR  meetings.   • With  regard  to  the  integration  of  reputational  risk  two  way  communications   is  vital  to  moving  from  reactive  to  proactive  risk  management.  Risk  
  • 2. • • • • • • • • • • • • • management  must  be  positioned  as  an  ‘enabler’  rather  than  a  ‘blocker’  in   decision  making   Business  units  must  own  risk  and  consult  with  communications/reputation   risk  experts  at  an  early  stage  in  the  commercial  planning  cycle     Cross  discipline  collaboration  on  taking  stakeholder  perspectives  into  account   (risk  management,  reputation,  R&D,  design)  is  a  major  factor  in  protecting   value  and  improve  risk  management   One  excellent  example  of  awareness  of  risk  is  that  a  firm  X  (a  major  gas   company)  had  sold  its  logistics  network  but  maintained  branding  on  the   lorries.  Risk  management  did  not  see  this  as  a  risk.  Stakeholders  did  -­‐  as  liquid   natural  gas  tankers  can  explode  in  a  community.  If  the  gas  firm’s  logo  is  on   that  vehicle,  it  represents  clearly  both  a  public  relations  and  a  management   issue  for  the  company  concerned   The  Bank  Account  of  Goodwill  analogy  used  in  CSR  works  well  in  reputational   risk.  Sometimes  to  advance  strategy,  you  will  need  to  make  withdrawals  and   lower  reputational  resilience;  other  times  you  will  need  to  invest.  The  key  is   understanding  the  firm’s  overall  reputational  resilience.     The  Rana  Plaza  disaster  demonstrated  that  companies  which  were  engaged   in  actively  managing  risk  were  able  to  respond  better  to  the  disaster  and   have  been  clearly  regarded  more  favourably  since  the  incident   Reputational  risk  can  be  managed  more  effectively  when  clearly  linked  by   management  to  business  continuity,  with  costs  associated  with  reputational   loss  and  gain   Balance  is  key  in  managing  risk:  When  you  make  risk  management  everyone’s   job  you  can  easily  blur  the  lines  between  good  decision  making  and  efficient   business  practices.  i.e.  if  everyone  queries  all  decisions  for  risk  reasons  you   may  have  much  slower  decision  making   Managing  reputational  risk  is  both  an  art  and  a  science:  Whilst  storytelling  is   key  to  making  lessons  stick,  KPI’s  showing  the  disciplinary  risks  to  individuals   are  also  key   A  risk-­‐attuned,  aware  and  outside  engaged  corporate  culture  is  vital  to  help   spot  “Black  Swan”  events  and  warn  of  important  reputational  risks     The  best  “meta  risk”  indicators  that  a  firm  holds  is  its  level  of  reputational   resilience.  When  starting  out,  a  series  of  small  steps  to  build  the  business   case  for  better  collaboration  between  risk  and  reputation  management  is   optimal,  followed  by  internal  communication  of  the  results   There’s  a  clear  separation  problem  in  many  companies  between  data   collection,  where  it  exists,  people  working  on  the  ground  and  the  orders  that   come  from  on  high   Explaining  how  people  fit  into  the  bigger  risk  and  reputation  picture  is  a   major  challenge,  but  it  must  be  a  picture  they  can  recognise  on  a  day  to  day   basis.  Reputational  risk  awareness  must  somehow  be  concrete  for  them   If  management  can  align  reputational  P&L  with  management  KPIs,  and  base   those  KPIs  on  a  reputational  resilience  index  that  is  one  potential,  proven   solution  
  • 3. • • • 80%  of  the  challenge  is  internal  education,  alongside  company  behaviour,   and  working  out  how  to  make  reputational  risk  count  for  individual   employees,  day  to  day   One  technique  used  successfully  is  a  simple  three  bullet  point  summary   message  to  all  employees  after  an  incident,  so  they  can  remember  the   company  line  and  response  easily     But  the  best  solution  is  to  be  able  to  demonstrate  to  internal  audiences,   especially  top  management,  the  financial  impact  of  reputational  on  value.   Maintaining  a  good  reputation  will  then  become  part  of  decision  making     The  event  was  organised  and  moderated  by  Tobias  Webb  of  Stakeholder  Intelligence   and  Ethical  Corporation.  For  more  information  or  to  inquire  about  further  events  see   tobiaswebb.blogspot.co.uk  or  email/call  tobias.webb@stakeholderintel.com  +44  (0)   7867416646     RiiЯ  (Risk2Reputation)  sponsored  the  event.  RiiЯ  is  a  leading,  research  consultancy,   which  helps  change  excellent  firms  into  resilient  firms,  thereby  protecting  and   enhancing  corporate  value.  RiiЯ  do  this  by  analysing  the  financial  impact  of   reputational  fluctuation  on  value,  thereby  improving  management  decision-­‐making.   RiiЯ  also  help  optimise  resources  within  the  firm  -­‐  from  communications,  risk   management  and  sustainability  executives  -­‐  so  reputation  is  managed  proactively   within  the  ecosystem  of  stakeholders.  For  further  information,  please  contact  Tom   Vesey  at  tom.vesey@risk2reputation.com  ,  or  on  +33  6  28  91  00  99.