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rnchat:          T-minus 15 minutes until #RNchat. Plz RT! :)
                 2/19/2010 20:45


clinicalcafe:    RT @rnchat: T-minus 15 minutes until #RNchat. Plz RT! :)
                 2/19/2010 20:45


NurseSylvia11:   Can't wait for #rnchat
                 2/19/2010 20:54


rnchat:          Welcome to #RNchat! Last night's was amazing - here's the transcript - http://rnchat.org -
                 We'll get started in a moment.
                 2/19/2010 21:00


EllenRichter:    Woo hoo...I literally JUST got in from the hospital!! I didnt think I'd make it in time! :)
                 #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:01


rnchat:          Well - let's get started with introductions. Tell us about yourself! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:02


NurseSylvia11:   I'm so excited, using a new twitter acct since my old one doesn't work via tweetchat...
                 #rnchat
                 2/19/2010 21:02


ali_rn:          @rnchat hi there!! didnt know there was a chat tonight! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:02


Kineticycle:     RT @RNchat: Welcome to #RNchat! Last night's was amazing - here's the transcript -
                 http://rnchat.org - We'll get started in a moment.
                 2/19/2010 21:02


EllenRichter:    @rnchat Yes, last nite was really enjoyable! I hope that @RWJF got some good data
                 from that chat! :) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:02


NurseSylvia11:   2/3 year nursing student in a BSN program in Cal, also work in an ICU as a tech..
                 #rnchat
                 2/19/2010 21:02


ali_rn:          @rnchat nurse for (almost) 6yrs medical floor, hi all! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:03


EllenRichter:    I'm Ellen, a long long long-time critical care RN & legal nurse consultant in South Florida
                 Hi people! This is like deja vu! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:04


ianmal:          nearly done with my BSN degree in portland. #rnchat
                 2/19/2010 21:05


rnchat:          First topic coming up in one minute... #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:05


KaitlynAliano:   .5/2 year nursing student in a RN program in New Jersey. :-) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:05


Kineticycle:     #rnchat I'm a nurse manager for a critical care transport program at an academic medical
                 center. >20yrs experience.
2/19/2010 21:06


rnchat:           @ali_rn Welcome! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:06


EllenRichter:     Great to see students come to the chat! Welcome everyone! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:06


KaitlynAliano:    @heychrissmith, awesome. I'm watching Medium and following #RNchat. What movie?
                  2/19/2010 21:06


NurseSylvia11:    @EllenRichter thanks! #rnchat
                  2/19/2010 21:06


rnchat:           T1 Grievances: What are best practices for grievances? When should nurses go public?
                  How should they proceed? Any examples? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:06


heychrissmith:    @KaitlynAliano Cloudy with a chance of meatballs #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:07


EllenRichter:     T1 Phil, define grievances? You mean work-related issues? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:08


EllenRichter:     LMAO @Kineticycle 200th?? Do I get a prize (hopefully yes!) :) My pleasure following a
                  fellow nurse! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:08


KaitlynAliano:    RT @rnchat: T1 - What are best practices for grievances? When should nurses go
                  public? How should they proceed? Any examples? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:09


Kineticycle:      #rnchat T1 grievence? Is this union related or just a "concern" in general? Not sure I
                  understand the scope of the Q?
                  2/19/2010 21:10


EllenRichter:     T1 To get any real headway with a grievance, you must follow the correct chain of
                  command. "Going public?" Not sure what that means #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:10


holisticnurses:   #RNChat Aw, hi gang! Can't really participate as I'm working tonite (& it's crazy) but will
                  be following along when I can. Cheers!
                  2/19/2010 21:11


ali_rn:           @Kineticycle gives the nurse protection/recourse #rnchat
                  2/19/2010 21:12


NurseSylvia11:    T1 is honesty the best policy? Leave it to the hospital to decide. Clearing your conscience
                  doesn't always benefit the masses #rnchat
                  2/19/2010 21:12


EllenRichter:     T1 Many companies have a grievance committee that includes RNs & administrators who
                  try to resolve a grievance behind closed doors #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:12


EllenRichter:     T1 @ali_rn Remember, not every hospital/facility has a union! :) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:13
yvette2012:     @EllenRichter Do nurses in FL have unconditional protection when "speaking out" after
                following chain of command? In TX it seems no #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:14


EllenRichter:   @holisticnurses Hi! Sorry you cant partake! Dont work too hard! :) #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:14


ali_rn:         @EllenRichter very true...but i have only worked in one that does!! skews my view i
                guess! #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:15


EllenRichter:   T1 @yvette2012 No one has unconditional protection anywhere! We must always play by
                the rules if we want protection. #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:15


EllenRichter:   T1 @kineticycle Many times the grievance has nothing to do with patient care. But its still
                an issue needing resolution! #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:16


ali_rn:         @EllenRichter good points about protection and grievance/pt care #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:18


Kineticycle:    #rnchat T1 if a grievance is to have a + impact, it must have a willing champion to "fix"
                the wrong. It's all in the approach to build trust
                2/19/2010 21:18


EllenRichter:   T1 @ali_rn I have worked in both union hospitals & non-union ones. Good/bad for each
                type. A supportive administration always helps #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:18


yvette2012:     As a complete new-comer, message I'm getting is: don't speak out, b/c even when you
                DO follow the rules, you can get into a mess #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:19


PamelaKline:    #RNchat~ Sorry, I'm late but here:)
                2/19/2010 21:19


ali_rn:         @Kineticycle that isn't exactly how it work where i work- a nurse will recieve pay for ot
                she should have gotten, stuff like that, #rnchat
                2/19/2010 21:21


ali_rn:         @Kineticycle have not seen it lead to actual policy change #rnchat
                2/19/2010 21:21


EllenRichter:   T1 @yvette2012 When a nurse feels there was injustice or wrong-doing, theres no Xcuse
                for silence. There R tactics for effectiveness #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:21


rnchat:         @PamelaKline Welcome! We'll start the second topic in a few moments. #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:21


EllenRichter:   @PamelaKline welcome gf!! :) Not too late! #RNchat
                2/19/2010 21:21


Kineticycle:    #rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, they just can't "whine about everything". Be focused, ID
                the cause and suggest solutions = best chance.
                2/19/2010 21:22
rnchat:           Lot of great views here on grievances. Second topic coming up! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:22


EllenRichter:     T1 I'm sure every nurse has stories of incidents where they couldve/shouldve made a
                  grievance, but didnt--to prevent more H/As #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:23


holisticnurses:   RT @Kineticycle #rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, just can't "whine about everything". Be
                  focused, ID cause & suggest solutions = best chance
                  2/19/2010 21:23


rnchat:           RT @Kineticycle: #rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, they just can't "whine about
                  everything". Be focused, ID the cause and suggest solutions = best chance.
                  2/19/2010 21:23


rnchat:           T2 Pharmaceutical Industry: Is Pharma sufficiently supportive of nursing? How should
                  they be involved? What can they do for us? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:24


yvette2012:       I'm just *perplexed". What did the TX nurse do wrong? She's paying a hefty price for
                  speaking her mind about what was right. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:24


EllenRichter:     T1 Yessss...@kineticycle GREAT point about having some ideas for a solution! Thats a
                  plus & can really help resolve things. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:24


KaitlynAliano:    RT @rnchat: T2 - Is Pharma sufficiently supportive of nursing? How should they be
                  involved? What can they do for us? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:24


EllenRichter:     @yvette2012 Texas nurse issue compounded by a very small hospital, small town, the
                  MD & the sheriff had a relationship. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:26


holisticnurses:   And many nurses have come together bc of that! RT @yvette2012 I'm just *perplexed".
                  What did the TX nurse do wrong? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:26


philbaumann:      @yvette2012 We all are. It was the most bizarre case ever. Just bizarre. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:27


PamelaKline:      @yvette2012 I agree with you Yvette. She did nothing wrong. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:27


Kineticycle:      #rnchat T2 if Pharma were supportive of nursing they would: use larger print, name meds
                  less alike, make doses easier 2 deliver (no cutting)
                  2/19/2010 21:28


EllenRichter:     T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is the complexity of all the
                  different names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:28


holisticnurses:   Agreed! RT @philbaumann @yvette2012 We all are. It was the most bizarre case ever.
                  Just bizarre. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:29
KaitlynAliano:     @holisticnurses, yes. One of the best things to come out of the case; a strengthened
                   sense of community & fellowship among nurses. #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:29


EllenRichter:      T2 Each drug should just have a generic name!! Not 15 different trade names for each
                   company! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:29


Kineticycle:       RT @yvette2012: I'm just *perplexed". What did the TX nurse do wrong? She's paying a
                   hefty price...about what was right. #RNchat ^POLITICS!
                   2/19/2010 21:29


rnchat:            RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is the
                   complexity of all the different names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:30


EllenRichter:      T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med one name, nurse calls it another, MD
                   writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:30


rnchat:            A great point by @EllenRichter - what can Pharma do with respect to med naming? Any
                   suggestions or is it just hopeless? #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:31


Kineticycle:       RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med one name, nurse
                   calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:31


EllenRichter:      T2 Another thing I am puzzled about is the size of some pills...ie coreg, thyroid
                   suppl...they are like saccharine! Old shaky hands? #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:31


holisticnurses:    RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharm industry is the complexity of all
                   the different names for each drug! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:32


Kineticycle:       RT @rnchat: A great point by @EllenRichter - what can Pharma do with respect to med
                   naming? #RNchat ^its all abt marketing/branding. #fail
                   2/19/2010 21:33


PamelaKline:       RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharm industry is the complexity of all
                   the different names for each drug! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:33


EllenRichter:      T3 LOL, and my last big beef with pharma...make more of the common medications in
                   elixer form. Thousands need their pills crushed! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:34


yvette2012:        But then, I don't want their job either #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:34


maryannagordon: Hi, I'm Mary Anna, a nursing instructor/simulation specialist in Portland, OR. Glad to be
                joining #RNchat for the first time.
                   2/19/2010 21:34


ali_rn:            t2 #rnchat my primary concern is how much drug waste their is..why provide 4 of
                   morphine so i can waste 2?
                   2/19/2010 21:35
PamelaKline:       @maryannagordon welcome!!! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:35


EllenRichter:      T3 I know when I crush up 15 pills for an NG tube, much of those drugs never dissolve
                   well & doses are not 100% instilled #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:35


maryannagordon: I'll agree w/ general confusion with the complexity of the naming system, my students
                have much difficulty learning all permutations #RNCHAT
                   2/19/2010 21:36


ali_rn:            people cannot afford meds, and i'm throwing away perfectly good ones, every hour!
                   #rnchat
                   2/19/2010 21:36


Kineticycle:       #rnchat T2 simplify med dosing, standardize concentrations, improve labeling so it can be
                   read, sponsor RN education, not just doc vacations
                   2/19/2010 21:36


EllenRichter:      T3 @ali_rn I cant agree more! I hate wasting narcotics just because the pharmacy has
                   only one dose available!! Sometimes every hour~ #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:37


EllenRichter:      LOL @ali_rn We both said "every hour"! We know how to waste, dont we? ;) #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:37


CureT1Diabetes:    RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is the
                   complexity of all the different names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:38


ali_rn:            @EllenRichter i know- how much med sticks to syringe and cup and never even gets into
                   pt! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:38


CureT1Diabetes:    RT @Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med
                   one name, nurse calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:39


ELNC:              @ali_rn T3 I agree. Pts aren't getting their meds if you are crushing them. #RNCHAT
                   2/19/2010 21:39


DiabetesMine:      RT @Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med
                   one name, nurse calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:40


EllenRichter:      I wood say 1/4 of NG dose gets lost along way RT @ali_rn: i know~how much med sticks
                   to syringe and cup and never even gets into pt! #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:40


ali_rn:            @EllenRichter oh yes #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:40


EllenRichter:      Thanks for the RTs folks!! Wow! :) #RNchat
                   2/19/2010 21:40


rnchat:            Follow up to T2 - Given that it's nurses who admin Rx & run clin trials: what should
Pharma do in a broader sense (support, etc.) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:41


EllenRichter:     (good questions, Phil!!) :) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:41


ELNC:             RT @EllenRichter: (good questions, Phil!!) :) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:42


ali_rn:           @rnchat ask nurses what they need to dose patients... med routes, doses needed
                  #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:42


Kineticycle:      #rnchat T2 pharma should send RNs to Hawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;)
                  2/19/2010 21:42


PamelaKline:      RT @rnchat: Given that it's nurses who admin Rx & run clin trials: what should Pharma
                  do in a broader sense (support, etc.) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:43


EllenRichter:     T2 Maybe Pharma could hire more RN consultants to help in the development phases of
                  pharma instead of bandaid to existing problems #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:43


PamelaKline:      @Kineticycle I agree with you, I'm packing my bags:) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:44


EllenRichter:     @mandirocker Great point! I think drug names are VERY important to the understanding
                  of their actions by patients AND hc professnls #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:44


yvette2012:       T2 I have a broad question: are pharm companies genuinely interested in promoting
                  safety? Is their any incentive for them? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:44


EllenRichter:     LMAO!!! I just saw that!! haha >> RT @Kineticycle: T2 pharma should send RNs to
                  Hawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:45


philbaumann:      @yvette2012 Rationally it's in their interest. But Rationality and Wall Street don't always
                  meet each other on the road. :) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:46


PamelaKline:      @EllenRichter I think that's a great idea Ellen:) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:46


Cathy_Robinson: RT @EllenRichter: LMAO!!! I just saw that!! haha >> RT @Kineticycle: T2 pharma should
                send RNs to Hawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:47


Kineticycle:      #rnchat this is great fun and good discussion! Thanks for the opportunity.
                  2/19/2010 21:48


EllenRichter:     T2 When nuts come to bolts, both health care and pharma are big business--its not all
                  about altruistic patient care, altho importnt #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:48
rnchat:           Third topic coming up in a moment. #RNchat (Gonna have to get Pharma companies to
                  send us to Maui now :)
                  2/19/2010 21:48


ELNC:             @yvette2012 T2 I don't think safety is their primary concern. Safety falls on the nurse.
                  #RNCHAT
                  2/19/2010 21:48


EllenRichter:     Hey, @kineticycle I'm glad you came too! You have added alot to the chat! Keep coming
                  back! :) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:49


ali_rn:           RT @ELNC: @yvette2012 T2 I don't think safety is their primary concern. Safety falls on
                  the nurse. #RNCHAT agreed, its money!
                  2/19/2010 21:49


rnchat:           @Kineticycle Our pleasure! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:50


Kineticycle:      #rnchat T2 instead of pharma supporting nursing, how can nursing influence pharma?
                  What's our sphere of influence on them? Do we use it?
                  2/19/2010 21:50


rnchat:           T3 Women's Health: What Dx and Tx disparities do you still see between men and
                  women? What's improved over the decades? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:50


grimalkinrn:      #rnchat also still at work!
                  2/19/2010 21:51


rnchat:           @Kineticycle That's a great question! We'll make that a topic in itself in a future #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:51


ELNC:             @ali_rn T2 It's always about the $$$$ #RNCHAT
                  2/19/2010 21:51


EllenRichter:     YESSSS!! >>> RT @rnchat @Kineticycle That's a great question! We'll make that a topic
                  in itself in a future #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:52


PamelaKline:      @Kineticycle I think we can try to be as proactive as possible (give our input, ideas &
                  suggestions) any chance we get:) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:52


PamelaKline:      @ali_rn Oh yeah, I so agree with you. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:53


Facethesunmovie: RT @rnchat: Third topic coming up in a moment. #RNchat (Gonna have to get Pharma
                 companies to send us to Maui now :)
                  2/19/2010 21:54


PamelaKline:      RT @ali_rn: @RNchat T3 women do not get taken seriously, patted on head said to be
                  anxious #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:55


EllenRichter:     T3 I'm not so sure I agree with @ali_rn on the view of a woman's complaints being
                  squelched by a pat on the head! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 21:55
Kineticycle:     #rnchat T3 I still see the skepticism in females and acute MI's. Why do we do that?
                 Myocytes are dying and we stand looking on in denial.
                 2/19/2010 21:56


rnchat:          Follow up to T1 - are schools & facilities doing enough to promote awareness of women's
                 health w/respect to Sx assessment, etc.? #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:56


CarolBCollett:   T3 In peds endocrine, males often get eval for growth failure younger than females.
                 #RNChat
                 2/19/2010 21:58


yvette2012:      Uh...Womens Health Issues is an elective...That's about all I can say...but that's
                 something, right? #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:58


PamelaKline:     RT @rnchat: ~Are schools & facilities doing enough to promote awareness of women's
                 health w/respect to Sx assessment, etc.? #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:59


rnchat:          That last tweet was for T3 btw #RNchat o_O
                 2/19/2010 21:59


EllenRichter:    T3 @yvette2012 Womens Health classes are only electives in school these days??
                 #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 21:59


PamelaKline:     @yvette2012~ Wow, that's incredible?! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:00


Kineticycle:     #rnchat T3 I'm not sure anyone is to blame for this syndrome of female sx minimizing, its
                 more of a culture issue. Being aware is a + start.
                 2/19/2010 22:01


yvette2012:      T3 EllenRichter It's an elective starting in semester 2. Yip. #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:01


rnchat:          @yvette2012 Wow. That's a sin. #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:01


Kineticycle:     RT @EllenRichter: T3 @yvette2012 Womens Health classes are only electives in school
                 these days?? #RNchat ^really?
                 2/19/2010 22:02


ali_rn:          @EllenRichter i don't mean every woman every time, but meds formulated, tested on men
                 as the norm #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:02


ali_rn:          @EllenRichter what does that tell you #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:02


EllenRichter:    T3 Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators & educators who
                 prepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:02


KaitlynAliano:   RT @EllenRichter: Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators &
educators who prepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:03


Kineticycle:     RT @rnchat: @yvette2012 Wow. That's a sin. #RNchat ^i agree!!
                 2/19/2010 22:03


CarolBCollett:   RT @EllenRichter: T3 Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators
                 & educators who prepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:03


yvette2012:      T3 I'll find out in time, but right now I feel they try so hard to get EVERYTHING into the
                 program, the basics are being neglected #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:04


StephenNP:       #RNchat Hi there - T3 - Plus we know that most of the older clinical trials were only
                 conducted on white men - thats not applicable to all!
                 2/19/2010 22:04


lisagualtieri:   Hi #RNchat! Would love RN feedback on Sarasota Memorial's internal and external social
                 media use @SMHCS http://wp.me/pah6H-5W
                 2/19/2010 22:05


EllenRichter:    T3 If Womens Health, as well as Mens Health, are not addressed by regular college
                 courses as mandatory topics, thats just wrong! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:05


PamelaKline:     RT @StephenNP: ~Plus we know that most of the older clinical trials were only conducted
                 on white men - thats not applicable to all! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:06


Kineticycle:     @yvette2012 #rnchat a little of all in education, lack of depth in basics is a #fail of our
                 education. Bad idea!
                 2/19/2010 22:06


PamelaKline:     @EllenRichter agreed! That just seems like a basic requirement. #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:08


rnchat:          @yvette2012 But women's health is an important part of the basics. That's it's not
                 considered basic says something. #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:08


Kineticycle:     #rnchat T3 Teach the norms, teach how to assess, teach how to communicate in common
                 language. The rest can come w/ experience & more ed.
                 2/19/2010 22:09


ali_rn:          RT @StephenNP: #RNchat Hi there - T3 - Plus we know that most of the older clinical
                 trials were only conducted on white men - thank you!!
                 2/19/2010 22:09


EllenRichter:    T3 When I went to school, that mustve been before women were invented, because we
                 didnt even have Womens Health as an elective! :( #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:10


rnchat:          @lisagualtieri Sure - but maybe not during the #RNchat - it's one hour where we like to
                 focus things a bit. OK?
                 2/19/2010 22:10
yvette2012:       T3 I just check my course outline to be sure. We have Maternal/Newborn NUR in the 4th
                  semester. The only 1 relating directly 2 women #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:10


KaitlynAliano:    @yvette2012, same with my program, Yvette! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:11


EllenRichter:     T3 Very sad to hear this from current students. Here I thought nursing schools were so
                  "cutting edge" in 2010~ Very saddened. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:12


PamelaKline:      @EllenRichter~ T3- LOL!! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:13


EllenRichter:     @PamelaKline LOL here too ;) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:14


rnchat:           @EllenRichter Same here - it's pretty mind-blowing. We're talking half of the population.
                  Kinda sorta big, ya know?? #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:14


yvette2012:       T3 I know we're slightly off topic, but I don't think NUR can only be 2yr program anymore.
                  There are so many HAVE TO KNOW issues #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:14


KaitlynAliano:    @EllenRichter, I'm assuming they cluster Women's Health in with Maternal/Newborn NUR,
                  but the info really deserves its own course. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:15


rnchat:           OK - we're gonna wrap up in a moment. Lots of great stuff here tonight!!! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:15


yvette2012:       T3 And mine is supposed to be a well supported (by local hospitals) program right here in
                  Orlando #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:15


EllenRichter:     @yvette2012 I agree 100% on the RN minimum education. I am a full supporter of at
                  LEAST a BSN for all RNs. & thats just entry level #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:15


PamelaKline:      @rnchat loved it tonight Phil. Very educational and eye opening! Thanks:) #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:16


rnchat:           I think we're gonna have to revisit women's health again soon on #RNchat Huge room for
                  improvement here I do believe.
                  2/19/2010 22:16


rnchat:           @PamelaKline Sure! Keep coming back! #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:16


KaitlynAliano:    @yvette2012, I'm in a 2 yr program at the mo, but plan to go on to get my BSN. I do
                  think it's important. #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:17


holisticnurses:   RT @EllenRichter I agree 100% on the RN minimum education. I am a full supporter of at
                  LEAST a BSN for all RNs. 4 just entry level #RNchat
                  2/19/2010 22:17
KaitlynAliano:   @rnchat, so glad a chat took place tonight. Thanks, Phil! You're the best. :-) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:17


EllenRichter:    @KaitlynAliano Yes, go back for your BSN! :) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:17


EllenRichter:    @PamelaKline I am so glad you came! Great to see a fellow LNC at these chats! And
                 now we have ELNC too! :) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:18


rnchat:          @KaitlynAliano Sure - lots of things to talk about. #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:19


KaitlynAliano:   @EllenRichter, hoping maybe to get a job at a hospital after NCLEX and try to make
                 them pay for the BSN. ;-) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:19


EllenRichter:    Yessssssss @philbaumann Great, great chat tonight! I didnt think we could upstage last
                 nite, but I think we did! :) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:19


yvette2012:      Thanks @RNchat & you, @EllenRichter, for your patience. I'm sooo on the receiving end
                 here. And I'm very aware of it. Good night. #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:19


EllenRichter:    @KaitlynAliano Absolutely! Let them pay for your BSN & your MSN! :) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:20


PamelaKline:     @EllenRichter I almost forgot! I've been sick the last few days:( I'll be back for more. I
                 don't recognize ELNC? #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:20


EllenRichter:    @yvette2012 You added so much to tonights chat! Great having you participate! :)
                 #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:20


rnchat:          OK - Great #RNchat tonight! THANK YOU everybody! Awesome job. Transcript will be up
                 tomorrow!
                 2/19/2010 22:20


PamelaKline:     @KaitlynAliano that's the best thing to do Kaitlyn! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:21


KaitlynAliano:   @EllenRichter, definitely! #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:23


Kineticycle:     RT @EllenRichter: @KaitlynAliano Absolutely! Let them pay for your BSN & your MSN! :)
                 #RNchat ^EXACTLY! Only way to go!
                 2/19/2010 22:23


KaitlynAliano:   Great chat, everyone. #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:23


EllenRichter:    G'night everyone! Thanks for some great tweetage! Enjoy your weekends! Anyone
                 working (like me) enjoy too...dont work too hard! :) #RNchat
                 2/19/2010 22:24
PamelaKline:    @EllenRichter I didn't know there was a chat last night, I've have to check out the
                transcript! #RNchat
                2/19/2010 22:25


Kineticycle:    #rnchat Well done tonight! Thanks for the great chat, glad to be here with all these great
                folks! G'night!
                2/19/2010 22:25


EllenRichter:   @PamelaKline It was a special chat, with topics posed by Robt Wood Johnson Foundatn
                on Nursing in the Future. Yes, read transcript! #RNchat
                2/19/2010 22:26


ELNC:           Goodnight and thanks for the invite to #RNCHAT
                2/19/2010 22:26


EllenRichter:   @ELNC Yes, we should chat more! I saw your website yesterday but couldnt find your
                name or # on it. Wasnt sure if you were real! #RNchat
                2/19/2010 22:29


EllenRichter:   @ELNC Glad to see you ARE real! :) And glad you came to join us at #RNchat! Come
                back, we have it every week. U can suggest a topic too!
                2/19/2010 22:31


MHabershamSB:   Not sure if I've missed it, but hi all and night night! Sleeping for work tomorrow. Happy
                and producive chatting! #rnchat
                2/19/2010 22:38

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RNchat Transcript February 19, 2010

  • 1. rnchat: T-minus 15 minutes until #RNchat. Plz RT! :) 2/19/2010 20:45 clinicalcafe: RT @rnchat: T-minus 15 minutes until #RNchat. Plz RT! :) 2/19/2010 20:45 NurseSylvia11: Can't wait for #rnchat 2/19/2010 20:54 rnchat: Welcome to #RNchat! Last night's was amazing - here's the transcript - http://rnchat.org - We'll get started in a moment. 2/19/2010 21:00 EllenRichter: Woo hoo...I literally JUST got in from the hospital!! I didnt think I'd make it in time! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:01 rnchat: Well - let's get started with introductions. Tell us about yourself! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:02 NurseSylvia11: I'm so excited, using a new twitter acct since my old one doesn't work via tweetchat... #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:02 ali_rn: @rnchat hi there!! didnt know there was a chat tonight! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:02 Kineticycle: RT @RNchat: Welcome to #RNchat! Last night's was amazing - here's the transcript - http://rnchat.org - We'll get started in a moment. 2/19/2010 21:02 EllenRichter: @rnchat Yes, last nite was really enjoyable! I hope that @RWJF got some good data from that chat! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:02 NurseSylvia11: 2/3 year nursing student in a BSN program in Cal, also work in an ICU as a tech.. #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:02 ali_rn: @rnchat nurse for (almost) 6yrs medical floor, hi all! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:03 EllenRichter: I'm Ellen, a long long long-time critical care RN & legal nurse consultant in South Florida Hi people! This is like deja vu! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:04 ianmal: nearly done with my BSN degree in portland. #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:05 rnchat: First topic coming up in one minute... #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:05 KaitlynAliano: .5/2 year nursing student in a RN program in New Jersey. :-) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:05 Kineticycle: #rnchat I'm a nurse manager for a critical care transport program at an academic medical center. >20yrs experience.
  • 2. 2/19/2010 21:06 rnchat: @ali_rn Welcome! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:06 EllenRichter: Great to see students come to the chat! Welcome everyone! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:06 KaitlynAliano: @heychrissmith, awesome. I'm watching Medium and following #RNchat. What movie? 2/19/2010 21:06 NurseSylvia11: @EllenRichter thanks! #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:06 rnchat: T1 Grievances: What are best practices for grievances? When should nurses go public? How should they proceed? Any examples? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:06 heychrissmith: @KaitlynAliano Cloudy with a chance of meatballs #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:07 EllenRichter: T1 Phil, define grievances? You mean work-related issues? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:08 EllenRichter: LMAO @Kineticycle 200th?? Do I get a prize (hopefully yes!) :) My pleasure following a fellow nurse! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:08 KaitlynAliano: RT @rnchat: T1 - What are best practices for grievances? When should nurses go public? How should they proceed? Any examples? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:09 Kineticycle: #rnchat T1 grievence? Is this union related or just a "concern" in general? Not sure I understand the scope of the Q? 2/19/2010 21:10 EllenRichter: T1 To get any real headway with a grievance, you must follow the correct chain of command. "Going public?" Not sure what that means #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:10 holisticnurses: #RNChat Aw, hi gang! Can't really participate as I'm working tonite (& it's crazy) but will be following along when I can. Cheers! 2/19/2010 21:11 ali_rn: @Kineticycle gives the nurse protection/recourse #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:12 NurseSylvia11: T1 is honesty the best policy? Leave it to the hospital to decide. Clearing your conscience doesn't always benefit the masses #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:12 EllenRichter: T1 Many companies have a grievance committee that includes RNs & administrators who try to resolve a grievance behind closed doors #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:12 EllenRichter: T1 @ali_rn Remember, not every hospital/facility has a union! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:13
  • 3. yvette2012: @EllenRichter Do nurses in FL have unconditional protection when "speaking out" after following chain of command? In TX it seems no #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:14 EllenRichter: @holisticnurses Hi! Sorry you cant partake! Dont work too hard! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:14 ali_rn: @EllenRichter very true...but i have only worked in one that does!! skews my view i guess! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:15 EllenRichter: T1 @yvette2012 No one has unconditional protection anywhere! We must always play by the rules if we want protection. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:15 EllenRichter: T1 @kineticycle Many times the grievance has nothing to do with patient care. But its still an issue needing resolution! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:16 ali_rn: @EllenRichter good points about protection and grievance/pt care #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:18 Kineticycle: #rnchat T1 if a grievance is to have a + impact, it must have a willing champion to "fix" the wrong. It's all in the approach to build trust 2/19/2010 21:18 EllenRichter: T1 @ali_rn I have worked in both union hospitals & non-union ones. Good/bad for each type. A supportive administration always helps #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:18 yvette2012: As a complete new-comer, message I'm getting is: don't speak out, b/c even when you DO follow the rules, you can get into a mess #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:19 PamelaKline: #RNchat~ Sorry, I'm late but here:) 2/19/2010 21:19 ali_rn: @Kineticycle that isn't exactly how it work where i work- a nurse will recieve pay for ot she should have gotten, stuff like that, #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:21 ali_rn: @Kineticycle have not seen it lead to actual policy change #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:21 EllenRichter: T1 @yvette2012 When a nurse feels there was injustice or wrong-doing, theres no Xcuse for silence. There R tactics for effectiveness #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:21 rnchat: @PamelaKline Welcome! We'll start the second topic in a few moments. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:21 EllenRichter: @PamelaKline welcome gf!! :) Not too late! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:21 Kineticycle: #rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, they just can't "whine about everything". Be focused, ID the cause and suggest solutions = best chance. 2/19/2010 21:22
  • 4. rnchat: Lot of great views here on grievances. Second topic coming up! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:22 EllenRichter: T1 I'm sure every nurse has stories of incidents where they couldve/shouldve made a grievance, but didnt--to prevent more H/As #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:23 holisticnurses: RT @Kineticycle #rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, just can't "whine about everything". Be focused, ID cause & suggest solutions = best chance 2/19/2010 21:23 rnchat: RT @Kineticycle: #rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, they just can't "whine about everything". Be focused, ID the cause and suggest solutions = best chance. 2/19/2010 21:23 rnchat: T2 Pharmaceutical Industry: Is Pharma sufficiently supportive of nursing? How should they be involved? What can they do for us? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:24 yvette2012: I'm just *perplexed". What did the TX nurse do wrong? She's paying a hefty price for speaking her mind about what was right. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:24 EllenRichter: T1 Yessss...@kineticycle GREAT point about having some ideas for a solution! Thats a plus & can really help resolve things. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:24 KaitlynAliano: RT @rnchat: T2 - Is Pharma sufficiently supportive of nursing? How should they be involved? What can they do for us? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:24 EllenRichter: @yvette2012 Texas nurse issue compounded by a very small hospital, small town, the MD & the sheriff had a relationship. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:26 holisticnurses: And many nurses have come together bc of that! RT @yvette2012 I'm just *perplexed". What did the TX nurse do wrong? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:26 philbaumann: @yvette2012 We all are. It was the most bizarre case ever. Just bizarre. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:27 PamelaKline: @yvette2012 I agree with you Yvette. She did nothing wrong. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:27 Kineticycle: #rnchat T2 if Pharma were supportive of nursing they would: use larger print, name meds less alike, make doses easier 2 deliver (no cutting) 2/19/2010 21:28 EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is the complexity of all the different names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:28 holisticnurses: Agreed! RT @philbaumann @yvette2012 We all are. It was the most bizarre case ever. Just bizarre. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:29
  • 5. KaitlynAliano: @holisticnurses, yes. One of the best things to come out of the case; a strengthened sense of community & fellowship among nurses. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:29 EllenRichter: T2 Each drug should just have a generic name!! Not 15 different trade names for each company! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:29 Kineticycle: RT @yvette2012: I'm just *perplexed". What did the TX nurse do wrong? She's paying a hefty price...about what was right. #RNchat ^POLITICS! 2/19/2010 21:29 rnchat: RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is the complexity of all the different names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:30 EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med one name, nurse calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:30 rnchat: A great point by @EllenRichter - what can Pharma do with respect to med naming? Any suggestions or is it just hopeless? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:31 Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med one name, nurse calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:31 EllenRichter: T2 Another thing I am puzzled about is the size of some pills...ie coreg, thyroid suppl...they are like saccharine! Old shaky hands? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:31 holisticnurses: RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharm industry is the complexity of all the different names for each drug! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:32 Kineticycle: RT @rnchat: A great point by @EllenRichter - what can Pharma do with respect to med naming? #RNchat ^its all abt marketing/branding. #fail 2/19/2010 21:33 PamelaKline: RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharm industry is the complexity of all the different names for each drug! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:33 EllenRichter: T3 LOL, and my last big beef with pharma...make more of the common medications in elixer form. Thousands need their pills crushed! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:34 yvette2012: But then, I don't want their job either #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:34 maryannagordon: Hi, I'm Mary Anna, a nursing instructor/simulation specialist in Portland, OR. Glad to be joining #RNchat for the first time. 2/19/2010 21:34 ali_rn: t2 #rnchat my primary concern is how much drug waste their is..why provide 4 of morphine so i can waste 2? 2/19/2010 21:35
  • 6. PamelaKline: @maryannagordon welcome!!! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:35 EllenRichter: T3 I know when I crush up 15 pills for an NG tube, much of those drugs never dissolve well & doses are not 100% instilled #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:35 maryannagordon: I'll agree w/ general confusion with the complexity of the naming system, my students have much difficulty learning all permutations #RNCHAT 2/19/2010 21:36 ali_rn: people cannot afford meds, and i'm throwing away perfectly good ones, every hour! #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:36 Kineticycle: #rnchat T2 simplify med dosing, standardize concentrations, improve labeling so it can be read, sponsor RN education, not just doc vacations 2/19/2010 21:36 EllenRichter: T3 @ali_rn I cant agree more! I hate wasting narcotics just because the pharmacy has only one dose available!! Sometimes every hour~ #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:37 EllenRichter: LOL @ali_rn We both said "every hour"! We know how to waste, dont we? ;) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:37 CureT1Diabetes: RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is the complexity of all the different names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:38 ali_rn: @EllenRichter i know- how much med sticks to syringe and cup and never even gets into pt! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:38 CureT1Diabetes: RT @Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med one name, nurse calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:39 ELNC: @ali_rn T3 I agree. Pts aren't getting their meds if you are crushing them. #RNCHAT 2/19/2010 21:39 DiabetesMine: RT @Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med one name, nurse calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:40 EllenRichter: I wood say 1/4 of NG dose gets lost along way RT @ali_rn: i know~how much med sticks to syringe and cup and never even gets into pt! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:40 ali_rn: @EllenRichter oh yes #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:40 EllenRichter: Thanks for the RTs folks!! Wow! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:40 rnchat: Follow up to T2 - Given that it's nurses who admin Rx & run clin trials: what should
  • 7. Pharma do in a broader sense (support, etc.) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:41 EllenRichter: (good questions, Phil!!) :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:41 ELNC: RT @EllenRichter: (good questions, Phil!!) :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:42 ali_rn: @rnchat ask nurses what they need to dose patients... med routes, doses needed #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:42 Kineticycle: #rnchat T2 pharma should send RNs to Hawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;) 2/19/2010 21:42 PamelaKline: RT @rnchat: Given that it's nurses who admin Rx & run clin trials: what should Pharma do in a broader sense (support, etc.) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:43 EllenRichter: T2 Maybe Pharma could hire more RN consultants to help in the development phases of pharma instead of bandaid to existing problems #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:43 PamelaKline: @Kineticycle I agree with you, I'm packing my bags:) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:44 EllenRichter: @mandirocker Great point! I think drug names are VERY important to the understanding of their actions by patients AND hc professnls #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:44 yvette2012: T2 I have a broad question: are pharm companies genuinely interested in promoting safety? Is their any incentive for them? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:44 EllenRichter: LMAO!!! I just saw that!! haha >> RT @Kineticycle: T2 pharma should send RNs to Hawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:45 philbaumann: @yvette2012 Rationally it's in their interest. But Rationality and Wall Street don't always meet each other on the road. :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:46 PamelaKline: @EllenRichter I think that's a great idea Ellen:) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:46 Cathy_Robinson: RT @EllenRichter: LMAO!!! I just saw that!! haha >> RT @Kineticycle: T2 pharma should send RNs to Hawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:47 Kineticycle: #rnchat this is great fun and good discussion! Thanks for the opportunity. 2/19/2010 21:48 EllenRichter: T2 When nuts come to bolts, both health care and pharma are big business--its not all about altruistic patient care, altho importnt #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:48
  • 8. rnchat: Third topic coming up in a moment. #RNchat (Gonna have to get Pharma companies to send us to Maui now :) 2/19/2010 21:48 ELNC: @yvette2012 T2 I don't think safety is their primary concern. Safety falls on the nurse. #RNCHAT 2/19/2010 21:48 EllenRichter: Hey, @kineticycle I'm glad you came too! You have added alot to the chat! Keep coming back! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:49 ali_rn: RT @ELNC: @yvette2012 T2 I don't think safety is their primary concern. Safety falls on the nurse. #RNCHAT agreed, its money! 2/19/2010 21:49 rnchat: @Kineticycle Our pleasure! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:50 Kineticycle: #rnchat T2 instead of pharma supporting nursing, how can nursing influence pharma? What's our sphere of influence on them? Do we use it? 2/19/2010 21:50 rnchat: T3 Women's Health: What Dx and Tx disparities do you still see between men and women? What's improved over the decades? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:50 grimalkinrn: #rnchat also still at work! 2/19/2010 21:51 rnchat: @Kineticycle That's a great question! We'll make that a topic in itself in a future #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:51 ELNC: @ali_rn T2 It's always about the $$$$ #RNCHAT 2/19/2010 21:51 EllenRichter: YESSSS!! >>> RT @rnchat @Kineticycle That's a great question! We'll make that a topic in itself in a future #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:52 PamelaKline: @Kineticycle I think we can try to be as proactive as possible (give our input, ideas & suggestions) any chance we get:) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:52 PamelaKline: @ali_rn Oh yeah, I so agree with you. #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:53 Facethesunmovie: RT @rnchat: Third topic coming up in a moment. #RNchat (Gonna have to get Pharma companies to send us to Maui now :) 2/19/2010 21:54 PamelaKline: RT @ali_rn: @RNchat T3 women do not get taken seriously, patted on head said to be anxious #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:55 EllenRichter: T3 I'm not so sure I agree with @ali_rn on the view of a woman's complaints being squelched by a pat on the head! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:55
  • 9. Kineticycle: #rnchat T3 I still see the skepticism in females and acute MI's. Why do we do that? Myocytes are dying and we stand looking on in denial. 2/19/2010 21:56 rnchat: Follow up to T1 - are schools & facilities doing enough to promote awareness of women's health w/respect to Sx assessment, etc.? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:56 CarolBCollett: T3 In peds endocrine, males often get eval for growth failure younger than females. #RNChat 2/19/2010 21:58 yvette2012: Uh...Womens Health Issues is an elective...That's about all I can say...but that's something, right? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:58 PamelaKline: RT @rnchat: ~Are schools & facilities doing enough to promote awareness of women's health w/respect to Sx assessment, etc.? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:59 rnchat: That last tweet was for T3 btw #RNchat o_O 2/19/2010 21:59 EllenRichter: T3 @yvette2012 Womens Health classes are only electives in school these days?? #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:59 PamelaKline: @yvette2012~ Wow, that's incredible?! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:00 Kineticycle: #rnchat T3 I'm not sure anyone is to blame for this syndrome of female sx minimizing, its more of a culture issue. Being aware is a + start. 2/19/2010 22:01 yvette2012: T3 EllenRichter It's an elective starting in semester 2. Yip. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:01 rnchat: @yvette2012 Wow. That's a sin. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:01 Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: T3 @yvette2012 Womens Health classes are only electives in school these days?? #RNchat ^really? 2/19/2010 22:02 ali_rn: @EllenRichter i don't mean every woman every time, but meds formulated, tested on men as the norm #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:02 ali_rn: @EllenRichter what does that tell you #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:02 EllenRichter: T3 Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators & educators who prepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:02 KaitlynAliano: RT @EllenRichter: Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators &
  • 10. educators who prepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:03 Kineticycle: RT @rnchat: @yvette2012 Wow. That's a sin. #RNchat ^i agree!! 2/19/2010 22:03 CarolBCollett: RT @EllenRichter: T3 Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators & educators who prepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:03 yvette2012: T3 I'll find out in time, but right now I feel they try so hard to get EVERYTHING into the program, the basics are being neglected #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:04 StephenNP: #RNchat Hi there - T3 - Plus we know that most of the older clinical trials were only conducted on white men - thats not applicable to all! 2/19/2010 22:04 lisagualtieri: Hi #RNchat! Would love RN feedback on Sarasota Memorial's internal and external social media use @SMHCS http://wp.me/pah6H-5W 2/19/2010 22:05 EllenRichter: T3 If Womens Health, as well as Mens Health, are not addressed by regular college courses as mandatory topics, thats just wrong! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:05 PamelaKline: RT @StephenNP: ~Plus we know that most of the older clinical trials were only conducted on white men - thats not applicable to all! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:06 Kineticycle: @yvette2012 #rnchat a little of all in education, lack of depth in basics is a #fail of our education. Bad idea! 2/19/2010 22:06 PamelaKline: @EllenRichter agreed! That just seems like a basic requirement. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:08 rnchat: @yvette2012 But women's health is an important part of the basics. That's it's not considered basic says something. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:08 Kineticycle: #rnchat T3 Teach the norms, teach how to assess, teach how to communicate in common language. The rest can come w/ experience & more ed. 2/19/2010 22:09 ali_rn: RT @StephenNP: #RNchat Hi there - T3 - Plus we know that most of the older clinical trials were only conducted on white men - thank you!! 2/19/2010 22:09 EllenRichter: T3 When I went to school, that mustve been before women were invented, because we didnt even have Womens Health as an elective! :( #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:10 rnchat: @lisagualtieri Sure - but maybe not during the #RNchat - it's one hour where we like to focus things a bit. OK? 2/19/2010 22:10
  • 11. yvette2012: T3 I just check my course outline to be sure. We have Maternal/Newborn NUR in the 4th semester. The only 1 relating directly 2 women #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:10 KaitlynAliano: @yvette2012, same with my program, Yvette! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:11 EllenRichter: T3 Very sad to hear this from current students. Here I thought nursing schools were so "cutting edge" in 2010~ Very saddened. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:12 PamelaKline: @EllenRichter~ T3- LOL!! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:13 EllenRichter: @PamelaKline LOL here too ;) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:14 rnchat: @EllenRichter Same here - it's pretty mind-blowing. We're talking half of the population. Kinda sorta big, ya know?? #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:14 yvette2012: T3 I know we're slightly off topic, but I don't think NUR can only be 2yr program anymore. There are so many HAVE TO KNOW issues #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:14 KaitlynAliano: @EllenRichter, I'm assuming they cluster Women's Health in with Maternal/Newborn NUR, but the info really deserves its own course. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:15 rnchat: OK - we're gonna wrap up in a moment. Lots of great stuff here tonight!!! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:15 yvette2012: T3 And mine is supposed to be a well supported (by local hospitals) program right here in Orlando #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:15 EllenRichter: @yvette2012 I agree 100% on the RN minimum education. I am a full supporter of at LEAST a BSN for all RNs. & thats just entry level #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:15 PamelaKline: @rnchat loved it tonight Phil. Very educational and eye opening! Thanks:) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:16 rnchat: I think we're gonna have to revisit women's health again soon on #RNchat Huge room for improvement here I do believe. 2/19/2010 22:16 rnchat: @PamelaKline Sure! Keep coming back! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:16 KaitlynAliano: @yvette2012, I'm in a 2 yr program at the mo, but plan to go on to get my BSN. I do think it's important. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:17 holisticnurses: RT @EllenRichter I agree 100% on the RN minimum education. I am a full supporter of at LEAST a BSN for all RNs. 4 just entry level #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:17
  • 12. KaitlynAliano: @rnchat, so glad a chat took place tonight. Thanks, Phil! You're the best. :-) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:17 EllenRichter: @KaitlynAliano Yes, go back for your BSN! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:17 EllenRichter: @PamelaKline I am so glad you came! Great to see a fellow LNC at these chats! And now we have ELNC too! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:18 rnchat: @KaitlynAliano Sure - lots of things to talk about. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:19 KaitlynAliano: @EllenRichter, hoping maybe to get a job at a hospital after NCLEX and try to make them pay for the BSN. ;-) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:19 EllenRichter: Yessssssss @philbaumann Great, great chat tonight! I didnt think we could upstage last nite, but I think we did! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:19 yvette2012: Thanks @RNchat & you, @EllenRichter, for your patience. I'm sooo on the receiving end here. And I'm very aware of it. Good night. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:19 EllenRichter: @KaitlynAliano Absolutely! Let them pay for your BSN & your MSN! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:20 PamelaKline: @EllenRichter I almost forgot! I've been sick the last few days:( I'll be back for more. I don't recognize ELNC? #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:20 EllenRichter: @yvette2012 You added so much to tonights chat! Great having you participate! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:20 rnchat: OK - Great #RNchat tonight! THANK YOU everybody! Awesome job. Transcript will be up tomorrow! 2/19/2010 22:20 PamelaKline: @KaitlynAliano that's the best thing to do Kaitlyn! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:21 KaitlynAliano: @EllenRichter, definitely! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:23 Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: @KaitlynAliano Absolutely! Let them pay for your BSN & your MSN! :) #RNchat ^EXACTLY! Only way to go! 2/19/2010 22:23 KaitlynAliano: Great chat, everyone. #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:23 EllenRichter: G'night everyone! Thanks for some great tweetage! Enjoy your weekends! Anyone working (like me) enjoy too...dont work too hard! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:24
  • 13. PamelaKline: @EllenRichter I didn't know there was a chat last night, I've have to check out the transcript! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:25 Kineticycle: #rnchat Well done tonight! Thanks for the great chat, glad to be here with all these great folks! G'night! 2/19/2010 22:25 EllenRichter: @PamelaKline It was a special chat, with topics posed by Robt Wood Johnson Foundatn on Nursing in the Future. Yes, read transcript! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:26 ELNC: Goodnight and thanks for the invite to #RNCHAT 2/19/2010 22:26 EllenRichter: @ELNC Yes, we should chat more! I saw your website yesterday but couldnt find your name or # on it. Wasnt sure if you were real! #RNchat 2/19/2010 22:29 EllenRichter: @ELNC Glad to see you ARE real! :) And glad you came to join us at #RNchat! Come back, we have it every week. U can suggest a topic too! 2/19/2010 22:31 MHabershamSB: Not sure if I've missed it, but hi all and night night! Sleeping for work tomorrow. Happy and producive chatting! #rnchat 2/19/2010 22:38