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Conversations with Adolescents:

  What Adults Say
and What Teens Hear
        Presented at Annual Conference of
         Center for Health Literacy
  Plain Talk in Complex Times 2012
       September 7, 2012 Arlington, VA


  William O. Donnelly, Ph.D.
  Donnelly Community Psychology
  Adjunct Clinical Faculty, Psychology Department
  Bowling Green State University,
What Adults Say



“Teenagers think they are invincible.”


  What do teens think when they hear that?
“When adults say, ‘Teenagers think
         they are invincible’
with that sly, stupid smile on their faces, they don't
know how right they are. We need never be
hopeless, because we can never be irreparably
broken. We think that we are invincible because
we are. We cannot be born, and we cannot die.
Like all energy, we can only change shapes and
sizes and manifestations. They forget that when
they get old. They get scared of losing and failing.”

                 - John Green, Looking for Alaska
What Adults Say

“When I was a boy of fourteen, my father
was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have
the old man around. But when I got to be
twenty-one, I was astonished by how much
he'd learned in seven years.”

                        - Mark Twain
What Do Teens Think
           When Adults Say …

-  When I was a boy of fourteen …

-  When I was your age …

- I understand what it’s like to be your age.
I was a teenager myself.
Teenagers are Different:
 3-D Effect in Adolescent Health Care
•  Development: Dramatic biological unfolding; shifts in
social supports and social influences

• Dependency: Parents, guardians, adults make health care
decisions and provide resources (or don’t) until … independence

• Diagnosis: Diagnostic criteria developed on adult samples
are sometimes misapplied to youth
Development: Biological Changes

•  Sexual development: physical appearance,
   sexual arousal, sexual behavior

•  Physical growth: size, strength, speed, sound
   changes in coordination

•  Implications/complications for physical and
   emotional health
Cognitive and Social Development
•  Established capacity for abstract thought

•  Intellectual discovery

•  Emotional complexity, intensity, variability

•  Moral reasoning. Re-evaluation of values, new
   ideals

•  Social Development – Peers. Mentors. Peers.
Development and Identity
•  Transitions from a childhood sense of identity
   that was greatly influenced by others
   (parents, family members and community)
   and was relatively unquestioned

•  Evolves into a teenager’s exploration of
   personal and group identity, sense of
   belonging, and purpose
Engaging Youth about Identity:
               What Matters?

•  Identity exploration – Who am I, what are my
   guiding values, beliefs? How am I unique?

•  Social identity and affiliation – who are my
   peers, where do I belong, what kind of
   relationships do I want, how do I develop
   those relationships?

•  Purpose – What are we here for? What am I
   here for?
Brain Development and Risk Taking

•  Logical, abstract thought is reasonably
   developed by mid-teens*

•  Other functions that affect risk-taking
   decisions are still under development*
   ▫  Emotional regulation
   ▫  Impulse control
   ▫  Delay of gratification

* Steinberg, L. (2004). Risk Taking in Adolescence: New Perspectives From Brain and Behavioral
Science. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 16, 55-59.
Dependency
•  For minors, adults are in charge.
   Until they’re not.

•  Legal, educational, financial decisions
•  Health care decisions
•  Housing, food, clothing

•  For young adults, transition from this is
   typically abrupt, incomplete, challenging.
Diagnosis

•  Diagnostic criteria may not be sensitive to
   developmental differences and patterns

•  May lead to misleading diagnostic labeling and
   inappropriate treatment of adolescent concerns

•  May be culturally tone deaf to adolescents
Adolescent Development: Health Concerns
     •  Sexuality. relationships. birth control.
                   pregnancy. stds.
•  Physical appearance. acne. tanning. weight.
          eating disorders. fitness. exercise.
 •  Depression. suicide. anxiety. stress. alcohol
             and substance use. tobacco.
    •  Traumatic stress. exposure to violence.
        family conflict. family mental illness.

•  How to seek, access, and pay for health care
Youth and Young Adult Mortality

Top 3 causes of death, ages 15-24

•  Accidents (predominantly motor vehicle)

•  Homicide

•  Suicide
             - Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
There is a lot to talk about!
   So how do adults communicate health
      information to and about teens?

•  Mostly, through conversations with other
   adults

•  Health care communication addressed to
   adolescent health issues is typically designed
   for adults (parents, teachers, health care
   providers)
Engaging Teens in the Conversation
•  Parents and other adults still matter and still
   need pertinent health information as they
   make decisions for or consult to youth

•  But engaging teens in the conversation about
   their health and well-being is not only
   appropriate, it is a developmental fit

•  The most helpful communications will
   respect teen concerns and abilities
CDC for Teens
•     CDC engages teens on vaccines:

•  “Learn more so that you can talk to your
   parents and your doctor about the vaccines
   you need and the diseases they prevent.”

•  Strategy: empower teens to protect
   themselves from cancer
What Do Teens Think?
•  When CDC says “Learn more so that you
   can talk to your parents and your doctor
   about the vaccines you need and the
   diseases they prevent”, do teens feel
   empowered?

•  May depend on whether they trust that the
   CDC website provides truthful, accurate,
   evidence-based information.
Warning Shots?
•  Empowerment immediately followed by:

         “Preteen and teen vaccines
      4 shots (preventing 6 diseases):
     Meningoococcal, tetanus, diptheria,
    pertussis, human papillomavirus and
                 influenza”

 (to be followed by field-testing with youth)
 http:// www.cdc.gov/vaccines/who/teens/for-preteens-teens.html
Adolescent Themes and Patterns
•  Increased recognition of adult/parent
   imperfections and inconsistencies

•  Increased reliance on peers for guidance

•  Increased openness to changing personal
   beliefs, values, behavior

•  Desire for respect and autonomy

•  Risk taking, feelings of invulnerability
Adolescent Themes and Patterns
•  Short-term planning, foreshortened sense of
   time

•  Intellectual discovery

•  Expansion of cultural influences
 ▫  (music, art, politics)

•  Idealism

•  Search for new heroes and heroines, mentors
Connecting to Teens
•  Choose topics that are important to teens and
   tie into developmental themes

•  Share data from other teens, including risk
   data. Share all sides of the story.

•  Provide interactive option for teen to share
   opinions/thoughts/questions

•  Feature teen/young adult commentaries and
   personal stories on the topic
Connecting to Teens:
          Motivational Interviewing
•  Motivational Interviewing
   Miller and Rollnick
   http://www.motivationalinterview.net

•  Method developed initially related to helping
   individuals appraise benefits and risks related
   to their personal substance use behavior

•  Helps adolescents identify areas of behavior
   or functioning that are of concern to them
Connecting to Teens:
       Motivational Interviewing Style

•  Helps teens look at risks, harm, or concerns
   related to some behaviors or situations while
   acknowledging potential benefits or interest
   or rewards of the situation

•  Non-confrontational questioning

•  Exploration and factual, objective use of data
Developmental - Generational
               Interactions

•  Teens rapidly master new technology

•  Teens - and their mentors, yesterday’s teens -
   facile with smart phones, social media, video
   games
•  Communication styles established during
   adolescence become generational traits

•  Reinforced by culture and brain wiring
Communication Strategies

•  Use of story, personal narratives about teen
   discovery, exploration

•  Use of peer stories and data

•  Use of slightly older mentors

•  Stories of self-discovery

•  Integration of stories and scientific data
Communication Strategies

•  Create an interactive dialogue of evidence-
   based data and adolescent’s experience

•  High interest, interactive visual materials

•  Provide information about resources

•  Limit advice. Encourage reflection.
Communication Strategies

•  Video games as teaching tools

•  Popular, engaging, interesting to teens

•  Require mastery of skills and information

•  Levels of skills, leading to mastery

•  Immediate and intermediate reinforcement
Conversations with Adolescents:
                 Examples

•  Online interactive simulation training:
   helping educators talk with teens about
   psychological distress.
 ▫  www.kognito.com

•  Classroom delivery: program helps teens help
   peers find help for mental health problems.
      SOS Signs of Suicide Prevention Program
 ▫  www.mentalhealthscreening.org/programs/youth-
    prevention-programs/sos/
Conversations with Adolescents:
                       Examples
•  Florida Military Family Peer Support Program
   Peer guides use interview quotations from
   youth for peer, family, and provider training
   about the mental health needs of military
   families. (Citation, slide 36)

•  Coping 10.1. Adolescent stories, role plays
   and vignettes highlight classroom curriculum
   for tenth graders about understanding and
   coping with traumatic stress.
•  Donnelly, W.O., Dubow, E.F., Zbur, S., Hassan, S., Veits, G., Hayman, J., Bradbury, S.,
   Reinemann, L., Ghoul, A. and Bonadio, A. (2012). Coping 10.1: A Psychoeducational Curriculum
   to Help High Schoolers Handle Traumatic Stress. Unpublished Manuscript. Department of
   Psychology, Bowling Green State University, Bowling Green, OH.
Online Interactive Role Play

•  Example: Kognito.com/demos

•  Interactive role-play simulations

•  How to engage, support and refer adolescents
   experiencing psychological distress, including
   thoughts of suicide

•  For educators (how to talk with students)
•  For college students
34

  SOS Signs of Suicide DVD,
Teens discuss peers and suicide
Teens Discuss Their Feelings About
        Military Deployment of a Parent

•  Nervous, worried, afraid – not knowing if or
   when they would see the parent

   I	
  was	
  angry	
  at	
  everybody.	
  I m	
  like	
  a	
  big	
  daddy s	
  
   girl,	
  so	
  I	
  was	
  really	
  sad	
  he	
  was	
  going	
  away.	
  And	
  I	
  
   was	
  scared	
  something	
  bad	
  might	
  happen	
  to	
  him. 	
  
Teens Discuss Their Feelings About
             Military Deployment of a Parent

•  Conflicted (multiple and changing emotions)

•  Well	
  I	
  was	
  kind	
  of	
  happy	
  that	
  he	
  was	
  going	
  away	
  because	
  
  then	
  I	
  wouldn t	
  have	
  somebody	
  who s	
  always	
  ge=ng	
  mad	
  
  about	
  something	
  that	
  I	
  would	
  do	
  wrong.	
  But	
  then	
  I	
  was	
  sad	
  
  because	
  he	
  might	
  not	
  come	
  back.	
  I	
  might	
  never	
  see	
  him	
  
  again. 	
  	
  

•  Granzow, E., La Greca, A.M., Hershman A.L., Prinstein, M., Sevin, S. and Coyle, A.
   (2011). North	
  Florida	
  Military	
  Family	
  Peer	
  Guide.	
  Coral	
  Gables,	
  7-­‐Dippity,	
  Inc.	
  
Sharing Health Data with Youth:
     Traumatic Stress Survey Items


Last year, we surveyed 120 students in
the 10th grade at (your) High School on
common stressor. They told us a lot
about their experiences dealing with
stressful situations, including some
that were really troubling to them.
Engaging teens about stressors
       experienced by other teens


Can you guess what percentage of
teens reported being harassed because
of skin color, religion, sexual
orientation, appearance or where their
family was from?
Final Thoughts

•  Respect adolescent experiences, insights and
   interests regarding their health concerns

•  Illustrative peer and mentor narratives. Stories.

•  Tie information to adolescent developmental
   concerns. Use dialogue, interactive gaming.
Final Thoughts

•  Recognize strengths: abstract thinking,
   exploration of ideas; sensitivity to social and
   emotional cues

•  Accept that emotional regulation and impulse
   control, especially related to risk-taking, are
   works in progress

•  Motivational interviewing style encourages
   reflection, more thoughtful appraisal of risks
contact information



   William O. Donnelly, Ph.D.
Donnelly Community Psychology, LTD
 429 W. College Avenue, PO Box 105
      Pemberville, OH 43450-0105


         billd@bgsu.edu

         (419) 287-7073

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  • 1. 1 Conversations with Adolescents: What Adults Say and What Teens Hear Presented at Annual Conference of Center for Health Literacy Plain Talk in Complex Times 2012 September 7, 2012 Arlington, VA William O. Donnelly, Ph.D. Donnelly Community Psychology Adjunct Clinical Faculty, Psychology Department Bowling Green State University,
  • 2. What Adults Say “Teenagers think they are invincible.” What do teens think when they hear that?
  • 3. “When adults say, ‘Teenagers think they are invincible’ with that sly, stupid smile on their faces, they don't know how right they are. We need never be hopeless, because we can never be irreparably broken. We think that we are invincible because we are. We cannot be born, and we cannot die. Like all energy, we can only change shapes and sizes and manifestations. They forget that when they get old. They get scared of losing and failing.” - John Green, Looking for Alaska
  • 4. What Adults Say “When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years.” - Mark Twain
  • 5. What Do Teens Think When Adults Say … -  When I was a boy of fourteen … -  When I was your age … - I understand what it’s like to be your age. I was a teenager myself.
  • 6.
  • 7. Teenagers are Different: 3-D Effect in Adolescent Health Care •  Development: Dramatic biological unfolding; shifts in social supports and social influences • Dependency: Parents, guardians, adults make health care decisions and provide resources (or don’t) until … independence • Diagnosis: Diagnostic criteria developed on adult samples are sometimes misapplied to youth
  • 8. Development: Biological Changes •  Sexual development: physical appearance, sexual arousal, sexual behavior •  Physical growth: size, strength, speed, sound changes in coordination •  Implications/complications for physical and emotional health
  • 9. Cognitive and Social Development •  Established capacity for abstract thought •  Intellectual discovery •  Emotional complexity, intensity, variability •  Moral reasoning. Re-evaluation of values, new ideals •  Social Development – Peers. Mentors. Peers.
  • 10. Development and Identity •  Transitions from a childhood sense of identity that was greatly influenced by others (parents, family members and community) and was relatively unquestioned •  Evolves into a teenager’s exploration of personal and group identity, sense of belonging, and purpose
  • 11. Engaging Youth about Identity: What Matters? •  Identity exploration – Who am I, what are my guiding values, beliefs? How am I unique? •  Social identity and affiliation – who are my peers, where do I belong, what kind of relationships do I want, how do I develop those relationships? •  Purpose – What are we here for? What am I here for?
  • 12. Brain Development and Risk Taking •  Logical, abstract thought is reasonably developed by mid-teens* •  Other functions that affect risk-taking decisions are still under development* ▫  Emotional regulation ▫  Impulse control ▫  Delay of gratification * Steinberg, L. (2004). Risk Taking in Adolescence: New Perspectives From Brain and Behavioral Science. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 16, 55-59.
  • 13. Dependency •  For minors, adults are in charge. Until they’re not. •  Legal, educational, financial decisions •  Health care decisions •  Housing, food, clothing •  For young adults, transition from this is typically abrupt, incomplete, challenging.
  • 14. Diagnosis •  Diagnostic criteria may not be sensitive to developmental differences and patterns •  May lead to misleading diagnostic labeling and inappropriate treatment of adolescent concerns •  May be culturally tone deaf to adolescents
  • 15. Adolescent Development: Health Concerns •  Sexuality. relationships. birth control. pregnancy. stds. •  Physical appearance. acne. tanning. weight. eating disorders. fitness. exercise. •  Depression. suicide. anxiety. stress. alcohol and substance use. tobacco. •  Traumatic stress. exposure to violence. family conflict. family mental illness. •  How to seek, access, and pay for health care
  • 16. Youth and Young Adult Mortality Top 3 causes of death, ages 15-24 •  Accidents (predominantly motor vehicle) •  Homicide •  Suicide - Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
  • 17. There is a lot to talk about! So how do adults communicate health information to and about teens? •  Mostly, through conversations with other adults •  Health care communication addressed to adolescent health issues is typically designed for adults (parents, teachers, health care providers)
  • 18. Engaging Teens in the Conversation •  Parents and other adults still matter and still need pertinent health information as they make decisions for or consult to youth •  But engaging teens in the conversation about their health and well-being is not only appropriate, it is a developmental fit •  The most helpful communications will respect teen concerns and abilities
  • 19. CDC for Teens •  CDC engages teens on vaccines: •  “Learn more so that you can talk to your parents and your doctor about the vaccines you need and the diseases they prevent.” •  Strategy: empower teens to protect themselves from cancer
  • 20. What Do Teens Think? •  When CDC says “Learn more so that you can talk to your parents and your doctor about the vaccines you need and the diseases they prevent”, do teens feel empowered? •  May depend on whether they trust that the CDC website provides truthful, accurate, evidence-based information.
  • 21. Warning Shots? •  Empowerment immediately followed by: “Preteen and teen vaccines 4 shots (preventing 6 diseases): Meningoococcal, tetanus, diptheria, pertussis, human papillomavirus and influenza” (to be followed by field-testing with youth) http:// www.cdc.gov/vaccines/who/teens/for-preteens-teens.html
  • 22. Adolescent Themes and Patterns •  Increased recognition of adult/parent imperfections and inconsistencies •  Increased reliance on peers for guidance •  Increased openness to changing personal beliefs, values, behavior •  Desire for respect and autonomy •  Risk taking, feelings of invulnerability
  • 23. Adolescent Themes and Patterns •  Short-term planning, foreshortened sense of time •  Intellectual discovery •  Expansion of cultural influences ▫  (music, art, politics) •  Idealism •  Search for new heroes and heroines, mentors
  • 24. Connecting to Teens •  Choose topics that are important to teens and tie into developmental themes •  Share data from other teens, including risk data. Share all sides of the story. •  Provide interactive option for teen to share opinions/thoughts/questions •  Feature teen/young adult commentaries and personal stories on the topic
  • 25. Connecting to Teens: Motivational Interviewing •  Motivational Interviewing Miller and Rollnick http://www.motivationalinterview.net •  Method developed initially related to helping individuals appraise benefits and risks related to their personal substance use behavior •  Helps adolescents identify areas of behavior or functioning that are of concern to them
  • 26. Connecting to Teens: Motivational Interviewing Style •  Helps teens look at risks, harm, or concerns related to some behaviors or situations while acknowledging potential benefits or interest or rewards of the situation •  Non-confrontational questioning •  Exploration and factual, objective use of data
  • 27. Developmental - Generational Interactions •  Teens rapidly master new technology •  Teens - and their mentors, yesterday’s teens - facile with smart phones, social media, video games •  Communication styles established during adolescence become generational traits •  Reinforced by culture and brain wiring
  • 28. Communication Strategies •  Use of story, personal narratives about teen discovery, exploration •  Use of peer stories and data •  Use of slightly older mentors •  Stories of self-discovery •  Integration of stories and scientific data
  • 29. Communication Strategies •  Create an interactive dialogue of evidence- based data and adolescent’s experience •  High interest, interactive visual materials •  Provide information about resources •  Limit advice. Encourage reflection.
  • 30. Communication Strategies •  Video games as teaching tools •  Popular, engaging, interesting to teens •  Require mastery of skills and information •  Levels of skills, leading to mastery •  Immediate and intermediate reinforcement
  • 31. Conversations with Adolescents: Examples •  Online interactive simulation training: helping educators talk with teens about psychological distress. ▫  www.kognito.com •  Classroom delivery: program helps teens help peers find help for mental health problems. SOS Signs of Suicide Prevention Program ▫  www.mentalhealthscreening.org/programs/youth- prevention-programs/sos/
  • 32. Conversations with Adolescents: Examples •  Florida Military Family Peer Support Program Peer guides use interview quotations from youth for peer, family, and provider training about the mental health needs of military families. (Citation, slide 36) •  Coping 10.1. Adolescent stories, role plays and vignettes highlight classroom curriculum for tenth graders about understanding and coping with traumatic stress. •  Donnelly, W.O., Dubow, E.F., Zbur, S., Hassan, S., Veits, G., Hayman, J., Bradbury, S., Reinemann, L., Ghoul, A. and Bonadio, A. (2012). Coping 10.1: A Psychoeducational Curriculum to Help High Schoolers Handle Traumatic Stress. Unpublished Manuscript. Department of Psychology, Bowling Green State University, Bowling Green, OH.
  • 33. Online Interactive Role Play •  Example: Kognito.com/demos •  Interactive role-play simulations •  How to engage, support and refer adolescents experiencing psychological distress, including thoughts of suicide •  For educators (how to talk with students) •  For college students
  • 34. 34 SOS Signs of Suicide DVD, Teens discuss peers and suicide
  • 35. Teens Discuss Their Feelings About Military Deployment of a Parent •  Nervous, worried, afraid – not knowing if or when they would see the parent   I  was  angry  at  everybody.  I m  like  a  big  daddy s   girl,  so  I  was  really  sad  he  was  going  away.  And  I   was  scared  something  bad  might  happen  to  him.  
  • 36. Teens Discuss Their Feelings About Military Deployment of a Parent •  Conflicted (multiple and changing emotions) •  Well  I  was  kind  of  happy  that  he  was  going  away  because   then  I  wouldn t  have  somebody  who s  always  ge=ng  mad   about  something  that  I  would  do  wrong.  But  then  I  was  sad   because  he  might  not  come  back.  I  might  never  see  him   again.     •  Granzow, E., La Greca, A.M., Hershman A.L., Prinstein, M., Sevin, S. and Coyle, A. (2011). North  Florida  Military  Family  Peer  Guide.  Coral  Gables,  7-­‐Dippity,  Inc.  
  • 37. Sharing Health Data with Youth: Traumatic Stress Survey Items Last year, we surveyed 120 students in the 10th grade at (your) High School on common stressor. They told us a lot about their experiences dealing with stressful situations, including some that were really troubling to them.
  • 38. Engaging teens about stressors experienced by other teens Can you guess what percentage of teens reported being harassed because of skin color, religion, sexual orientation, appearance or where their family was from?
  • 39. Final Thoughts •  Respect adolescent experiences, insights and interests regarding their health concerns •  Illustrative peer and mentor narratives. Stories. •  Tie information to adolescent developmental concerns. Use dialogue, interactive gaming.
  • 40. Final Thoughts •  Recognize strengths: abstract thinking, exploration of ideas; sensitivity to social and emotional cues •  Accept that emotional regulation and impulse control, especially related to risk-taking, are works in progress •  Motivational interviewing style encourages reflection, more thoughtful appraisal of risks
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  • 42. contact information William O. Donnelly, Ph.D. Donnelly Community Psychology, LTD 429 W. College Avenue, PO Box 105 Pemberville, OH 43450-0105 billd@bgsu.edu (419) 287-7073