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Evidence-Based Management
         Interview Practices




     Mark Ambler, RN, BSN, MBA, CCRN
            Nurse Manager, ICU
            OSU Medical Center
               July 27, 2007
Evidence-Based Management


• Based on Education (Thomas & Pring)
    and Medical models (Sackett)
•   Decisions based on behavioral
    scientific evidence
•   Hypothetical due to limited use
                   Jeffery Pfeffer & Robert I. Sutton
“No problem can be
solved from the same
 level of thinking that
      created it.”
                - Albert Einstein
Poor Interview Practice



In 2004 it was calculated that the U.S. spent
     $105 billion a year on poor people
                management.
Interview Goal
Two-fold goal of hiring:
  • Hire the right person
  • Avoid a lawsuit by preventative
    measures          Text
Interview Goal
Two-fold goal of hiring:
  • Hire the right person
  • Avoid a lawsuit by preventative
    measures          Text



        To accomplish these goals
                Educate
                Educate
                Educate
Legality of Management


  Managers need a strong background in
   Human Resources and at minimum
knowledge about Title VII of the Civil Rights
 Act to prevent a lawsuit or to defend your
              actions in court
Legality of Management


  Managers need a strong background in
   Human Resources and at minimum
knowledge about Title VII of the Civil Rights
 Act to prevent a lawsuit or to defend your
              actions in court
Best Practices

Two-way communication
Be consistently consistent
  • Must use the same questions for every
    candidate
  • Must ask all of the same questions
Best Practices

Retain Accurate Notes
  • Plaintiffs have up to two years to file a
    lawsuit

If protected class information is brought up
by the candidate
   • Inform her that it is irrelevant in the
     hiring process and will not be a factor
Protected Classes
During an interview a manager should not
inquire or discuss protected characteristics
such as
Protected Classes
During an interview a manager should not
inquire or discuss protected characteristics
such as
         Physical disabilities
         Pregnancy
         Family matters
         Religion
         Age
         Arrest records
         Race
         Citizenship status
         Financial status
         Memberships to clubs or organizations
         Sexual orientation
Disability Questions
   If you are concerned about a person’s
ability to perform the job, you can ask about
needed accommodations – but you cannot
base your decision for hiring on the answer
Disability Questions
   If you are concerned about a person’s
ability to perform the job, you can ask about
needed accommodations – but you cannot
base your decision for hiring on the answer
Laws of Management
Laws of Management
•   Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 & 1991
•   Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
•   Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978
•   Immigration Reform & Control Act of 1986
•   Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990
•   Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938
•   Negligent Hiring & Retention Claim
•   At-Will Employment
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of
            1964 & 1991



Prohibits discrimination based on race,
 color, religion, sex and national origin
Age Discrimination in Employment
           Act of 1967



Prohibits discrimination of eligible persons
           age 40 years or older
14
Andrews v. City of Cookeville




                                14
Pregnancy Discrimination Act of
             1978

   Prohibits discrimination on the basis of
   pregnancy, childbirth or related medical
conditions; women affected by pregnancy or
  related conditions must be treated in the
    same manner as other applicants or
employees with similar abilities or limitations
16
Wagner v. Dillard Department Stores




                                 16
Immigration Reform & Control Act
             of 1986

Employers may hire only persons who may
        legally work in the U.S.

 The employer must verify the identity and
employment eligibility of anyone to be hired
Americans with Disabilities Act of
             1990



 Prohibits discrimination on the basis of
                 disability
Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938



Set of standards administered by the Wage
 and Hour Division that stipulate the basic
     minimum wage and overtime pay
Negligent Hiring & Retention Claim



Employers have the duty to hire employees
  who will not harm other employees or
                customers
Doe v. First Presbyterian Church
At-Will Employment


Employment relationship can be terminated
      by either party without liability
At-Will Employment


Employment relationship can be terminated
      by either party without liability
     Practice the “Law of the Street”
Matthew Reasoner v. Bill Woeste Chevrolet
Questioning Techniques

Frequently what you do or say during and
      interview is used litigiously.

Nurses are professionals, so treat them as
                  such.
Questioning Techniques

The best interview is well choreographed
 with segues between topic transitions.

 The interview should be conducted in
         business like manner.
Questioning Technique
  Use behavioral and performance based
  open-ended questions and listen to the
                response.

“Listen for silences and what people don’t
say. And always ask if the former employer
would be willing to hire the person again.”
                                 Wang (2004)
Notes About Notes

 Tell the candidate that you will be taking
         notes during this process.

When taking notes do so on a pre-designed
    form or separate piece of paper.
Legal Rule of Thumb

Avoid breach of implied or express contract
          Don’t make promises

       If it is not germane to the job
                  Don’t ask it
Interviewing Tips
 Tailor questions to unit                      Keep the interview
 needs                                         conversational - be willing
 Balance positive and                          to rearrange question order
 negative questions                            Follow the 80/20 rule -
 Avoid leading questions                       interviewee speaks 80% of
                                               the time, interviewer 20%
 Explain use of behavioral-
 style questions                               Use short supplemental
                                               questions to hone in on
                                               candidate knowledge,
                                               actions, and motivations
                                               Take notes

Reproduced with permission from The Advisory Board, Nursing Executive Center,
                          Washington, DC © 2004
CAUTION
Bankruptcy
  You may ask only if financial information
  is job related.

Military Service
  Unless the information about discharge
  from the service is job related, you should
  avoid asking questions.
Medical History
  The ADA prohibits employment decisions
  based on medical history.

Employee Off-Duty Activities
  Do not “thrust yourself into the private
  affairs of others”.
Union Activity
  Federal law protects potential employees
  from discrimination related to their union
  support or nonsupport.

Religion
  You may not initiate a conversation about
  religion unless it is job related.
Marital Status
  You should not initiate conversations
  about spouses or children.
Generational Gaps
The interview should be tailored to the individual
generational needs
  • Baby Boomers
  • Generation X
  • Nexters

Emphasize the Team
  “People need to work with you because the days
    when they worked for you are gone”
                             Julia K. Garrison
                             NTI 2007
Myth Buster
Do not rely on interview myths like eye
positioning and body language.

Analogies may present problems - previous
candidate reactions may not be of benefit with
this interview.

Listen to the answers:
  What is known about the situation   What are the likenesses to past events
  What is unclear                     What are the differences
  What is presumed
QUESTIONS
• Why are you interested in working for
  us?

• What are your strongest skills? What
  skills would you like to improve upon?

• Describe the characteristics of an
  excellent nurse.
• Describe your most significant (team,
  individual, job-specific)
  accomplishment.

• Tell me about a time that you were
  given criticism. How did you handle
  it?
• What do you do to cope with stress?
  Have these techniques ever failed?

• One major challenge we are facing is
  (describe) how would you resolve it?

• Tell me about a time you had a
  conflict with a coworker or boss.
• Give an example of a time you
  provide superior customer service.

• What can we do to treat you well and
  allow you to do your best job?

• We have several excellent
  candidates; tell me why we should
  hire you.
The Real Work Begins
If a position is offered you must work to retain your
investment.

As the manager you are the champion of retention. You
must act as the coach, mentor, and trainer to your staff.
They will look to you for guidance.

You must hone your skills as a manager to retain the
best - this is achieved by using Best Practices.
EBM
Evidence-Based Management
Evidence-Based Management

    • Question why
    • Use Best Practices
    • Review relevant literature
    • Question why, again
Stelter Method
Focus of Review
   Identifying the purpose and focus of the literature review

Validation
   Validate the research and data as applicable and relevant to
   management

Comparative Evaluation
   Review similar research studies and evaluate parallels and
   feasibility of using the research in practice using the 3 Rs:
   potential Risk, Resources needed, and Readiness of the
   participants
Stelter Method
Decision Making
   Participants have the option to make the decision to use the
   findings, consider use, delay use, or reject the findings

Translation / Application
   Participants will decide the best way to apply the newly found
   process

Evaluation
   Determine the impact of the newly formed practice or policy on
   the strategic goals of the organization
“Previous practice does
 not guarantee future
       success.”
                - Mark Ambler
Web Sites
The U.S. Department of Labor
www.dol.gov

Workforce
www.workforce.com

The Advisory Board
www.advisory.com
Evidence Based Practice Interview Practices

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Evidence Based Practice Interview Practices

  • 1. Evidence-Based Management Interview Practices Mark Ambler, RN, BSN, MBA, CCRN Nurse Manager, ICU OSU Medical Center July 27, 2007
  • 2. Evidence-Based Management • Based on Education (Thomas & Pring) and Medical models (Sackett) • Decisions based on behavioral scientific evidence • Hypothetical due to limited use Jeffery Pfeffer & Robert I. Sutton
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  • 4. “No problem can be solved from the same level of thinking that created it.” - Albert Einstein
  • 5. Poor Interview Practice In 2004 it was calculated that the U.S. spent $105 billion a year on poor people management.
  • 6. Interview Goal Two-fold goal of hiring: • Hire the right person • Avoid a lawsuit by preventative measures Text
  • 7. Interview Goal Two-fold goal of hiring: • Hire the right person • Avoid a lawsuit by preventative measures Text To accomplish these goals Educate Educate Educate
  • 8. Legality of Management Managers need a strong background in Human Resources and at minimum knowledge about Title VII of the Civil Rights Act to prevent a lawsuit or to defend your actions in court
  • 9. Legality of Management Managers need a strong background in Human Resources and at minimum knowledge about Title VII of the Civil Rights Act to prevent a lawsuit or to defend your actions in court
  • 10. Best Practices Two-way communication Be consistently consistent • Must use the same questions for every candidate • Must ask all of the same questions
  • 11. Best Practices Retain Accurate Notes • Plaintiffs have up to two years to file a lawsuit If protected class information is brought up by the candidate • Inform her that it is irrelevant in the hiring process and will not be a factor
  • 12. Protected Classes During an interview a manager should not inquire or discuss protected characteristics such as
  • 13. Protected Classes During an interview a manager should not inquire or discuss protected characteristics such as Physical disabilities Pregnancy Family matters Religion Age Arrest records Race Citizenship status Financial status Memberships to clubs or organizations Sexual orientation
  • 14. Disability Questions If you are concerned about a person’s ability to perform the job, you can ask about needed accommodations – but you cannot base your decision for hiring on the answer
  • 15. Disability Questions If you are concerned about a person’s ability to perform the job, you can ask about needed accommodations – but you cannot base your decision for hiring on the answer
  • 17. Laws of Management • Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 & 1991 • Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 • Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978 • Immigration Reform & Control Act of 1986 • Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 • Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 • Negligent Hiring & Retention Claim • At-Will Employment
  • 18. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 & 1991 Prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex and national origin
  • 19. Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 Prohibits discrimination of eligible persons age 40 years or older
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  • 21. Andrews v. City of Cookeville 14
  • 22. Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978 Prohibits discrimination on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth or related medical conditions; women affected by pregnancy or related conditions must be treated in the same manner as other applicants or employees with similar abilities or limitations
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  • 24. Wagner v. Dillard Department Stores 16
  • 25. Immigration Reform & Control Act of 1986 Employers may hire only persons who may legally work in the U.S. The employer must verify the identity and employment eligibility of anyone to be hired
  • 26. Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 Prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability
  • 27. Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 Set of standards administered by the Wage and Hour Division that stipulate the basic minimum wage and overtime pay
  • 28. Negligent Hiring & Retention Claim Employers have the duty to hire employees who will not harm other employees or customers
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  • 30. Doe v. First Presbyterian Church
  • 31. At-Will Employment Employment relationship can be terminated by either party without liability
  • 32. At-Will Employment Employment relationship can be terminated by either party without liability Practice the “Law of the Street”
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  • 34. Matthew Reasoner v. Bill Woeste Chevrolet
  • 35. Questioning Techniques Frequently what you do or say during and interview is used litigiously. Nurses are professionals, so treat them as such.
  • 36. Questioning Techniques The best interview is well choreographed with segues between topic transitions. The interview should be conducted in business like manner.
  • 37. Questioning Technique Use behavioral and performance based open-ended questions and listen to the response. “Listen for silences and what people don’t say. And always ask if the former employer would be willing to hire the person again.” Wang (2004)
  • 38. Notes About Notes Tell the candidate that you will be taking notes during this process. When taking notes do so on a pre-designed form or separate piece of paper.
  • 39. Legal Rule of Thumb Avoid breach of implied or express contract Don’t make promises If it is not germane to the job Don’t ask it
  • 40. Interviewing Tips Tailor questions to unit Keep the interview needs conversational - be willing Balance positive and to rearrange question order negative questions Follow the 80/20 rule - Avoid leading questions interviewee speaks 80% of the time, interviewer 20% Explain use of behavioral- style questions Use short supplemental questions to hone in on candidate knowledge, actions, and motivations Take notes Reproduced with permission from The Advisory Board, Nursing Executive Center, Washington, DC © 2004
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  • 43. Bankruptcy You may ask only if financial information is job related. Military Service Unless the information about discharge from the service is job related, you should avoid asking questions.
  • 44. Medical History The ADA prohibits employment decisions based on medical history. Employee Off-Duty Activities Do not “thrust yourself into the private affairs of others”.
  • 45. Union Activity Federal law protects potential employees from discrimination related to their union support or nonsupport. Religion You may not initiate a conversation about religion unless it is job related.
  • 46. Marital Status You should not initiate conversations about spouses or children.
  • 47. Generational Gaps The interview should be tailored to the individual generational needs • Baby Boomers • Generation X • Nexters Emphasize the Team “People need to work with you because the days when they worked for you are gone” Julia K. Garrison NTI 2007
  • 48. Myth Buster Do not rely on interview myths like eye positioning and body language. Analogies may present problems - previous candidate reactions may not be of benefit with this interview. Listen to the answers: What is known about the situation What are the likenesses to past events What is unclear What are the differences What is presumed
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  • 51. • Why are you interested in working for us? • What are your strongest skills? What skills would you like to improve upon? • Describe the characteristics of an excellent nurse.
  • 52. • Describe your most significant (team, individual, job-specific) accomplishment. • Tell me about a time that you were given criticism. How did you handle it?
  • 53. • What do you do to cope with stress? Have these techniques ever failed? • One major challenge we are facing is (describe) how would you resolve it? • Tell me about a time you had a conflict with a coworker or boss.
  • 54. • Give an example of a time you provide superior customer service. • What can we do to treat you well and allow you to do your best job? • We have several excellent candidates; tell me why we should hire you.
  • 55. The Real Work Begins If a position is offered you must work to retain your investment. As the manager you are the champion of retention. You must act as the coach, mentor, and trainer to your staff. They will look to you for guidance. You must hone your skills as a manager to retain the best - this is achieved by using Best Practices.
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  • 57. EBM
  • 59. Evidence-Based Management • Question why • Use Best Practices • Review relevant literature • Question why, again
  • 60. Stelter Method Focus of Review Identifying the purpose and focus of the literature review Validation Validate the research and data as applicable and relevant to management Comparative Evaluation Review similar research studies and evaluate parallels and feasibility of using the research in practice using the 3 Rs: potential Risk, Resources needed, and Readiness of the participants
  • 61. Stelter Method Decision Making Participants have the option to make the decision to use the findings, consider use, delay use, or reject the findings Translation / Application Participants will decide the best way to apply the newly found process Evaluation Determine the impact of the newly formed practice or policy on the strategic goals of the organization
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  • 63. “Previous practice does not guarantee future success.” - Mark Ambler
  • 64. Web Sites The U.S. Department of Labor www.dol.gov Workforce www.workforce.com The Advisory Board www.advisory.com

Editor's Notes

  1. Hiring the wrong person is not only bad for your healthcare team, it is by far the largest investment for which you will have no return Poor hiring practices decrease the bottom line by turnover. Unlawful hiring practices decreases the bottom line with legal costs
  2. Ignore these facets of the job and you can plan a vacation with the government in Alderson, West Virginia
  3. Ignore these facets of the job and you can plan a vacation with the government in Alderson, West Virginia
  4. Ignore these facets of the job and you can plan a vacation with the government in Alderson, West Virginia
  5. If you use canned questions, you must use the same questions for every candidate You must ask all of the same questions, if not you will be perceived as inaccurately assessing the candidate
  6. HR should keep all records from interviews - filed by date, job and requisition number
  7. Prevention Train interviewers about discriminatory remarks and questioning Document exact reasons why the candidate was not hired
  8. Prevention Document exact reasons why the candidate was not hired If you use a form letter – add addendum that states the reason why no offer was made
  9. Prevention Document exact reasons why the candidate was not hired
  10. Prevention Follow HR’s lead
  11. Prevention Document exact reasons why the candidate was not hired
  12. It requires employers to pay covered employees who are not otherwise exempt at least the federal minimum wage and overtime pay of one-and-one-half-times the regular rate of pay Sets restrictions on employing children under 16 and under 18
  13. Prevention Complete background checks by HR Report any unusual responses to HR
  14. Legal Rule-of-Thumb Practice the “Law of the Street” or “How would a reasonable person view this”
  15. Review the highlights of this position with the candidate and allow time for questions about the role.
  16. Do not get caught up in recording every detail; instead maintain eye contact and be engaged in the conversation. Do not write on the candidate’s application or resume because this can be used to support a discrimination or sabotage claim.
  17. You should be cognizant of your verbal actions during any interview because what you say may propagate legal actions for breach of implied or express contract. Don’t make statements about guaranteed employment. Stay away from terms like “long-term” or “career longevity” since the employee can be laid off due to unforeseen circumstances.
  18. The EEOC yielded research that shows minorities are more often dishonorably discharged, so this line of questioning could be construed as discrimination.
  19. If you question about the home life of employees or potential employees, “you may be held liable for civil damages for intentionally thrusting yourself into the private affairs of others without invitation or permission” (Rector, 2002).
  20. You can state your beliefs about unions (favorable or unfavorable) but it is best to only discuss unionization if necessary.
  21. According to some State Laws you may not discriminate against someone because of marital status (married, divorced, single, widow). It is up to your personnel department to find answers to the questions regarding age, arrest records, and citizenship during the background check.
  22. You can tailor an interview to the individual’s generation but do not tailor the questions - these must all be the same for every candidate.
  23. In a study conducted at the University of North Texas, a recording of 10 white men reading the same 45-second passage was distributed to human resources directors and others who hire new employees. Based on the overall positive and negative impressions of the evaluators, the speaker with a California accent received the highest rating. The speakers with Minnesota, Boston, and Texas accents followed. The lowest ratings went to speakers with Louisiana, Georgia, and New Jersey accents. Although there are no laws prohibiting voice discrimination in the workplace, by making judgments about ability based solely on the accent of an interviewee, you may be depriving yourself of a great employee.
  24. Ask why the candidate wants to leave his/her current position. Ask about job history - why left each position; explain an gaps - deviate from family issues.
  25. Use a Journal Club with focused review of literature
  26. Use a Journal Club with focused review of literature
  27. Use a Journal Club with focused review of literature
  28. Use a Journal Club with focused review of literature